MR

You know the Styx mantra that we hear ad nauseum...

"We've done more shows in the past 10 years than we did in the entire history of the band"

"We tour at least 125 days out of the year every year"

"We're a road band.."

"We ditched Dennis because he didn't like to tour"

"This band is better now than its ever been..."

Then I just have one question for you.....

With all this touring, year end and year out, you can't even break into the top 50 touring acts of the DECADE?!?!?!?

http://www.pollstarpro.com/files/TopTourOfTheDecade.pdf

And, let's remember that almost all on this list toured 2, maybe 3 times over the decade...and Styx is out there...EVERY damn year..

Pathetic... and yes, those are FACTS

This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

Toph wrote:All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

All I know is that it is "Relevant" not relevent you Moron, Coward, who still hasn't apologized for accusing Styx of lip synching.

Toph wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

Those are the top tours, ya fucktard. No one here said they had a top tour. Those are the highest grossing artists in music. Streisand and James Taylor are 48 and 50 for christ sakes. But the challenge was "show me where they ever played to 50,000 on their own." I did. To 70 plus thousand in Quebec City. I never said they do that with every show for 10 years, you poncy hairdresser. Grow the fuck up. You and your cronies find the notion impossible that anyone could enjoy this band without the theatric easy listening song stylings of Dennis DeYoung---and I'm just sayin'.....some do.

You go Girl.

You're acting like Styx would be a stadium-packing entity with Dennis DeYoung. That's horseshit. They'd be playing the same damn venues as they are with Lawrence Gowan. The name is bringing in as many people as are interested. Journey was much bigger than Styx back in the day, and they're barely in the top 50.

Honestly, this proves what?

Styx, is a lot of times on package tours and a tour with REO do not count towards either band’s totals. The Main Event tour w/Journey would not count. This causes the numbers to be diluted. The Foreigner tour, Can’t Stop Rockin’ and we could go on an on. Plus, Styx rarely charges a huge ticket amount. If you look at the Top tours of the year the package they are on has usually been in the Top 30 every year.

That being said they are not as big as some of these acts. They do not have songs on the charts currently and really are not active in putting out new material. These numbers are about gross money makers. I am sure Styx has out sold most of these acts in tickets.

They are not huge, but they are a steady money maker on tour and that makes them relevant, period.

I have to agree with everyone here - so they don't make the list of top tours, big deal. They're doing well enough and certainly not starving.

Dennis has also played large "free" shows as well and his tours aren't on the list either. That doesn't make him more or less relevant than Styx at this point. I've paid to see both acts, and I'm seeing Dennis again tomorrow. Maybe I'll see Styx again this year, maybe I won't. Either way, my dollars won't leap their tours into the stratosphere.

Styx with Dennis, Dennis alone, or Styx without Dennis won't ever be a massive touring concern again along the lines of an Aerosmith, Bruce Springsteen, or Rush. Can we all just come down from the cliff now?

bottom line is this;

this version of styx is a money maker or THEY WOULD NOT TOUR plain and simple. i think most business owners determine the relevance of their business based on whether it makes money or not.

if DDY were back in the band (which is my #1 choice) they would have a peak in ticket sales for one summer and then it would be back to playing pretty much the same places for about 1000-1500 more people than they do now. if that.

and lastly......their a freakign rock band.....who gives a shit if they can sell out the enormo dome anymore? it's just live music.....and for those who think they are tarnishing their "legacy" my question is "what legacy?" styx is not the beatles....while their music will last a life time for me they will only have a handful of songs such as renegade, come sail away and believe it or not...mr. roboto that will still be anything that anybody knows when my kids are in their 40's. which by the way is awesome!!! it would be cool to write any song that would last that long but in the grand scheme of music history styx is basically a footnote....they are my favorite band of all time but a footnote and so by going out and playing the ribfest aint hurting a single thing to anybody that cares.

I guess by Toph's definition, Britney Spears is relevant???

You sure you're name's not ToKe?

If DDY were back in the band, they'd tour once every 5 years, release an album every 7 years (between Dennis' broadway things) and the album would be full of keyboard ballads. No thanks. I enjoy Styx of now and Styx of then. If DeYoung and Styx don't want to be together, big deal. Let it go for God's sake. It's been years now.

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

Styx tix are more expensive than Neil Diamond my friend

Zan wrote:

Toph wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

Those are the top tours, ya fucktard. No one here said they had a top tour. Those are the highest grossing artists in music. Streisand and James Taylor are 48 and 50 for christ sakes. But the challenge was "show me where they ever played to 50,000 on their own." I did. To 70 plus thousand in Quebec City. I never said they do that with every show for 10 years, you poncy hairdresser. Grow the fuck up. You and your cronies find the notion impossible that anyone could enjoy this band without the theatric easy listening song stylings of Dennis DeYoung---and I'm just sayin'.....some do.[/quote

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Hey people enjoy carrot top so why not another dumbo like Styx
The band was ruined and yet some have to fight tooth and nail because they have a buddy in the band who sends them pictures to show everyone how great they look. This is a frozen band same songs same spinning keyboards from the enabler keyboard player same 3triple bills.
Even you don't go to STYX shows anymore because deep down you know there fucking burned.

brywool wrote:I guess by Toph's definition, Britney Spears is relevant???

You sure you're name's not ToKe?

If DDY were back in the band, they'd tour once every 5 years, release an album every 7 years (between Dennis' broadway things) and the album would be full of keyboard ballads. No thanks. I enjoy Styx of now and Styx of then. If DeYoung and Styx don't want to be together, big deal. Let it go for God's sake. It's been years now.

Instead they don't release anything and they do 1000 shows in a year and they play the same songs over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. We get a keyboard player who uses an emulator and sings like he has hypothermia and he just keeps spinning his dumb key rig over and over and over and over and over again.
At least with Dennis the Music was produced right they sounded great and the name was not fucking burned out .
This current band stinks no morals lets call em Stinks

froy wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

Styx tix are more expensive than Neil Diamond my friend

I've never paid more than $45 for Styx tickets, and these $45 seats were 5th row center, REO Speedwagon as the opener. March 18, 2005 Erie PA

Paid $23 to see John Waite, Kansas, and Styx Feb. 9 2003 Erie PA.

Anytime I've paid more than that, Styx wasn't the headliner.

Zan wrote:

Toph wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

Those are the top tours, ya fucktard. No one here said they had a top tour. Those are the highest grossing artists in music. Streisand and James Taylor are 48 and 50 for christ sakes. But the challenge was "show me where they ever played to 50,000 on their own." I did. To 70 plus thousand in Quebec City. I never said they do that with every show for 10 years, you poncy hairdresser. Grow the fuck up. You and your cronies find the notion impossible that anyone could enjoy this band without the theatric easy listening song stylings of Dennis DeYoung---and I'm just sayin'.....some do.

Glad to see the bitch we all know and love has emerged... You still haven't proved that they played to 70plus thousand by themselves where people actually paid for the ticket. Bitch.

chowhall wrote:

Toph wrote:All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

All I know is that it is "Relevant" not relevent you Moron, Coward, who still hasn't apologized for accusing Styx of lip synching.

Don't have to apologize when its the truth. And you have plenty of things to apologize for in your comments about DDY - so go to hell.

Toph wrote:

chowhall wrote:

Toph wrote:All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

All I know is that it is "Relevant" not relevent you Moron, Coward, who still hasn't apologized for accusing Styx of lip synching.

Don't have to apologize when its the truth. And you have plenty of things to apologize for in your comments about DDY - so go to hell.

Apologize, seriously? Did comments about DDY personally offend you? And Styx throws in way too many venue-specific references into their songs to be lip-syncing.

DDY played Queen Victoria park New Years Eve 2007
Styx played the same gig in 2009. Styx had a record turnout. (50,000+)

Both free, a lot more came for Styx.

Archetype wrote:

Toph wrote:

chowhall wrote:

Toph wrote:All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

All I know is that it is "Relevant" not relevent you Moron, Coward, who still hasn't apologized for accusing Styx of lip synching.

Don't have to apologize when its the truth. And you have plenty of things to apologize for in your comments about DDY - so go to hell.

Apologize, seriously? Did comments about DDY personally offend you? And Styx throws in way too many venue-specific references into their songs to be lip-syncing.

DDY played Queen Victoria park New Years Eve 2007
Styx played the same gig in 2009. Styx had a record turnout. (50,000+)

Both free, a lot more came for Styx.

You'll have to show proof for anyone to believe that

froy wrote:Instead they don't release anything and they do 1000 shows in a year and they play the same songs over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. We get a keyboard player who uses an emulator and sings like he has hypothermia and he just keeps spinning his dumb key rig over and over and over and over and over again.
At least with Dennis the Music was produced right they sounded great and the name was not fucking burned out .
This current band stinks no morals lets call em Stinks

No offense Froy, but DDY isn't schlepping out the Oberheim anymore. Last show I saw it was one of the Orchestral ones 5 or 6 years ago in Chicago. I'll see if things have changed tomorrow, but he's been mainly playing a Motif on stage when he does keys. It is what it is.

50,000+ People

Glass Tiger played a split bill. Went on at 9, played til about 10, then Styx went on from about 10:15-Midnight. Glass Tiger went back on after them to be televised, except about 90% of the crowd left after Styx.

Archetype wrote:

Toph wrote:

chowhall wrote:

Toph wrote:All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

All I know is that it is "Relevant" not relevent you Moron, Coward, who still hasn't apologized for accusing Styx of lip synching.

Don't have to apologize when its the truth. And you have plenty of things to apologize for in your comments about DDY - so go to hell.

Apologize, seriously? Did comments about DDY personally offend you? And Styx throws in way too many venue-specific references into their songs to be lip-syncing.

DDY played Queen Victoria park New Years Eve 2007
Styx played the same gig in 2009. Styx had a record turnout. (50,000+)

Both free, a lot more came for Styx.

Does it really matter if more people showed up in 2007 vs. 2009? No. Different year, different circumstances. For all we know people were sick of the economy and wanted to just get out and party their asses off in the cold. They both played it, got paid, and it doesn't really affect things one way or another. People try to read way too much into this shit.

froy wrote:Even you don't go to STYX shows anymore because deep down you know there fucking burned.

I don't go because I've heard the same live tracks and the same banter since I saw them in 1977. Dennis does the same thing. I missed the Cyclo tour (had to work) but I would've saw that. When they release a new record, I'll go to their shows again, or when I see that they're playing a ton of stuff they haven't played live before, I'll go. That takes nothing away from them now as a live band. They're a great live band, but I saw a ton of shows and don't need to see another one till there's something new to see. There's a difference.

What else are they gonna play 'Aku Aku'? I think Tommy's played most of his songs on their tours. I certainly don't need to hear more JY unless it's Midnight Ride or Great White Hope. If Lawrence did all his Cyclo tunes, I'd go. If Burtnik came back and they did his Cyclo stuff, I'd go. If Dennis came back and they did the Return to Paradise Tour stuff- I would STAY HOME.

If Dennis came back and they recorded a new record, I'd go. If he came back and they didn't, I wouldn't.

StyxCollector wrote:

Archetype wrote:

Toph wrote:

chowhall wrote:

Toph wrote:All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

All I know is that it is "Relevant" not relevent you Moron, Coward, who still hasn't apologized for accusing Styx of lip synching.

Don't have to apologize when its the truth. And you have plenty of things to apologize for in your comments about DDY - so go to hell.

Apologize, seriously? Did comments about DDY personally offend you? And Styx throws in way too many venue-specific references into their songs to be lip-syncing.

DDY played Queen Victoria park New Years Eve 2007
Styx played the same gig in 2009. Styx had a record turnout. (50,000+)

Both free, a lot more came for Styx.

Does it really matter if more people showed up in 2007 vs. 2009? No. Different year, different circumstances. For all we know people were sick of the economy and wanted to just get out and party their asses off in the cold. They both played it, got paid, and it doesn't really affect things one way or another. People try to read way too much into this shit.

It doesn't matter, IMO. Great talent was present in 2007 and 2009. But to say that Styx isn't marketable in its current form is ludicrous.

Zan wrote:

Toph wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

Those are the top tours, ya fucktard. No one here said they had a top tour. Those are the highest grossing artists in music. Streisand and James Taylor are 48 and 50 for christ sakes. But the challenge was "show me where they ever played to 50,000 on their own." I did. To 70 plus thousand in Quebec City. I never said they do that with every show for 10 years, you poncy hairdresser. Grow the fuck up. You and your cronies find the notion impossible that anyone could enjoy this band without the theatric easy listening song stylings of Dennis DeYoung---and I'm just sayin'.....some do.

You do realize the level of the people you are arguing with, right? On the one hand you have Toph who obviously can't read or comprehend his own list. On the other, you have froy who names himself after Fraulein since he heard it on some movie (though, I think it's gotta be Hogan's Hero's)...and doesn't even realize he's calling himself a little girl.

This forum is just too funny sometimes.

froy wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

Styx tix are more expensive than Neil Diamond my friend

Wow, really? I paid $120 to see Neil in 2008. Didn't know Styx had those kind of prices, luckly I have not paid them.

LtVanish wrote:

froy wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

Styx tix are more expensive than Neil Diamond my friend

Wow, really? I paid $120 to see Neil in 2008. Didn't know Styx had those kind of prices, luckly I have not paid them.

That's just froy pulling things out of his ass with no fact whatsoever to back it up. I don't think Styx tickets would be anywhere near $120 even if DDY was back with them.

Archetype wrote:

LtVanish wrote:

froy wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

Styx tix are more expensive than Neil Diamond my friend

Wow, really? I paid $120 to see Neil in 2008. Didn't know Styx had those kind of prices, luckly I have not paid them.

That's just froy pulling things out of his ass with no fact whatsoever to back it up. I don't think Styx tickets would be anywhere near $120 even if DDY was back with them.

Nor would they be able to top the "Jewish Elvis"

Monker wrote:

Zan wrote:

Toph wrote:

LtVanish wrote:This says top tours of the decade, not top touring acts right? Top Tours of the Decade, no way Styx could show up because their ticket prices are so low. Even if DDY was in the group and they toured 2-3 times over the decade they would not even come close to appearing on the list, let alone competing against Neil Diamond.

All I know is that some on this list are under the illusion that current Styx is relevent...and that is clearly not the case. I read it as total top acts of the entire decade...combined.

Those are the top tours, ya fucktard. No one here said they had a top tour. Those are the highest grossing artists in music. Streisand and James Taylor are 48 and 50 for christ sakes. But the challenge was "show me where they ever played to 50,000 on their own." I did. To 70 plus thousand in Quebec City. I never said they do that with every show for 10 years, you poncy hairdresser. Grow the fuck up. You and your cronies find the notion impossible that anyone could enjoy this band without the theatric easy listening song stylings of Dennis DeYoung---and I'm just sayin'.....some do.

You do realize the level of the people you are arguing with, right? On the one hand you have Toph who obviously can't read or comprehend his own list. On the other, you have froy who names himself after Fraulein since he heard it on some movie (though, I think it's gotta be Hogan's Hero's)...and doesn't even realize he's calling himself a little girl.

This forum is just too funny sometimes.

And you have Monker who has to move his manboobs off the keyboard in order to type. In case you didn't know, he had a 2400 baud internal that he used to talk to Styx fans in the early 90s. He's REAL cool.
This forum IS too funny!