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Because after hearing Dennis and his band, if I am a promoter, all things equal, I take DDY and his band - except for one thing, they don't have the "brand name". Because, it is clear that they are more Styx than the band with the name.

From a business perspective, think about what you are trying to do. Your target audience is looking for nostalgia. They want to hear Styx Greatest Hits live. With Dennis, you get that. You now get 14 out of the 16 hits on Greatest Hits (exception being Miss America and Crystal Ball, arguably the two "smallest" hits on the GH album) and Rockin The Paradise (which should have been on GH1 vs. GH2) and Top 10 single Desert Moon. In other words, you get exactly what you pay for. And August sounds more like Tommy Shaw of the early 80s than Tommy Shaw of 2010 does. The band is tight, focused, and has a great sound that is true to the original recordings. The current touring version of Styx does not. The current touring version of Styx plays, maybe 1/2 the songs on GH? If that?

If DDY had the name, it would be no contest. And I predict that as more promoters hear this show - more will book DDY to get their Styx fix than those that book the touring band calling them by the same name.

Tommy and JY can try to erase history and pretend Styx didn't have the hits that they had, but at the end of the day, that is what people want to come see and Dennis, with his current set list...NAILS IT!

can someone please get rid of Toph the troll

why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

chickenbeef wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

You're about to feel the wrath of suitemadameblue....

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

You're about to feel the wrath of suitemadameblue....

thanks me

Toph wrote: I predict that as more promoters hear this show - more will book DDY to get their Styx fix than those that book the touring band calling them by the same name.

Keep in mind, STYX is a touring band. Denny only wants to do about 40 shows a year.

So the promoters can hear Denny all they want, they won't get the bookings.

brywool wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

Probably not realizing it, but you just proved my point.

Replace Tommy and JY with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston. Replace DDY with Brian Wilson.

You have the exact scenario with the Beach Boys. The guy that is most associated with the band doesn't have the name and tours under his own banner. The better show is Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys get booked to play after baseball games and with other "oldie acts". Brian Wilson tours significantly less, but when he puts on a show, it is high quality and only him (vs. having to share the limelight with other acts).

Toph wrote:

brywool wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

Probably not realizing it, but you just proved my point.

Replace Tommy and JY with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston. Replace DDY with Brian Wilson.

You have the exact scenario with the Beach Boys. The guy that is most associated with the band doesn't have the name and tours under his own banner. The better show is Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys get booked to play after baseball games and with other "oldie acts". Brian Wilson tours significantly less, but when he puts on a show, it is high quality and only him (vs. having to share the limelight with other acts).

styx is a rock band and dennis is a wanna be broadway act

Toph wrote:

brywool wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

Probably not realizing it, but you just proved my point.

Replace Tommy and JY with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston. Replace DDY with Brian Wilson.

You have the exact scenario with the Beach Boys. The guy that is most associated with the band doesn't have the name and tours under his own banner. The better show is Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys get booked to play after baseball games and with other "oldie acts". Brian Wilson tours significantly less, but when he puts on a show, it is high quality and only him (vs. having to share the limelight with other acts).

The way I read it,that if it was Styx with just Dennis,it would be like Beach Boys with Mike Love.

..

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

You're about to feel the wrath of suitemadameblue....

Tick tock, tick tock, just a matter of time that you'll be gone along with your other account.

yeah sure whatever....can't take it can you???? why don't you go cry with your 45 of babe in your bed

chickenbeef wrote:styx is a rock band and dennis is a wanna be broadway act

Let's see ... the last time I saw Dennis do anything "theatrical" (including Hunchback material or 10oB) was maybe 5 years ago, if not longer. Get your head out of your ass and pay attention before spouting tired lines which are not even true.

gr8dane wrote:

Toph wrote:

brywool wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

Probably not realizing it, but you just proved my point.

Replace Tommy and JY with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston. Replace DDY with Brian Wilson.

You have the exact scenario with the Beach Boys. The guy that is most associated with the band doesn't have the name and tours under his own banner. The better show is Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys get booked to play after baseball games and with other "oldie acts". Brian Wilson tours significantly less, but when he puts on a show, it is high quality and only him (vs. having to share the limelight with other acts).

The way I read it,that if it was Styx with just Dennis,it would be like Beach Boys with Mike Love.

You read it wrong. Dennis is the Brian Wilson of Styx.

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

You're about to feel the wrath of suitemadameblue....

Tick tock, tick tock, just a matter of time that you'll be gone along with your other account.

Whatever you say ma'am. See ya in a couple weeks

Question for Chickenbeef and Nightbull... How old were guys when you dropped out of High School? Do you regret it now?

Bearded Clam wrote:Question for Chickenbeef and Nightbull... How old were guys when you dropped out of High School? Do you regret it now?

We're NOT the same person but since you asked i didn't drop out, i graduated five years ago fyi.

Toph wrote:

brywool wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

Probably not realizing it, but you just proved my point.

Replace Tommy and JY with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston. Replace DDY with Brian Wilson.

You have the exact scenario with the Beach Boys. The guy that is most associated with the band doesn't have the name and tours under his own banner. The better show is Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys get booked to play after baseball games and with other "oldie acts". Brian Wilson tours significantly less, but when he puts on a show, it is high quality and only him (vs. having to share the limelight with other acts).

I agree with you I have seen Brian Wilson in concert many times, and his band is unbelievable, not to mention Brian is still writting good music. "That Lucky Old Sun" was a great album. Mike Love's Beach Boys is a touring joke.

Toph wrote:Because after hearing Dennis and his band, if I am a promoter, all things equal, I take DDY and his band - except for one thing, they don't have the "brand name". Because, it is clear that they are more Styx than the band with the name.

From a business perspective, think about what you are trying to do. Your target audience is looking for nostalgia. They want to hear Styx Greatest Hits live. With Dennis, you get that. You now get 14 out of the 16 hits on Greatest Hits (exception being Miss America and Crystal Ball, arguably the two "smallest" hits on the GH album) and Rockin The Paradise (which should have been on GH1 vs. GH2) and Top 10 single Desert Moon. In other words, you get exactly what you pay for. And August sounds more like Tommy Shaw of the early 80s than Tommy Shaw of 2010 does. The band is tight, focused, and has a great sound that is true to the original recordings. The current touring version of Styx does not. The current touring version of Styx plays, maybe 1/2 the songs on GH? If that?

If DDY had the name, it would be no contest. And I predict that as more promoters hear this show - more will book DDY to get their Styx fix than those that book the touring band calling them by the same name.

Tommy and JY can try to erase history and pretend Styx didn't have the hits that they had, but at the end of the day, that is what people want to come see and Dennis, with his current set list...NAILS IT!

I'll add one more point to this. Dennis's current setlist is the most complete overview of Styx's songs that has been performed IN THE HISTORY OF THE BAND. That is right, you've read it correctly. Those of you that say "No, 1996 and 1997 had more" - I say, wrong....JY and Tommy wouldn't perform Kilroy stuff in that show - no Roboto, No Don't Let It End. And we know that the current touring version of Styx eliminates a significant portion of the catalog. And up until recently, Dennis lacked the Tommy songs. You've never had Roboto and DLIE being performed with all the other Styx songs in one show (No, Kilroy doesn't work either - they eliminated a lot of bigger songs - GI, Lady, etc. to play a ton off Kilroy plus SMTW hadn't been written yet).

So, someone please tell me when this band performed a more complete overview of Styx's career than what Dennis DeYoung is doing now. It is pure brilliance...out-Styxify the group touring as Styx.

Suite,
There is no coincidence that heckyl and jeckyl are the same person. They adopted the same line of attack when "made for barbecue" appeared.

We shouldn't feed the trolls. Although I realize that I just did.

Thenightbull wrote:

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

You're about to feel the wrath of suitemadameblue....

Tick tock, tick tock, just a matter of time that you'll be gone along with your other account.

Whatever you say ma'am. See ya in a couple weeks

Ick. Thanks for the warning. I decided not to bring my kids to the Light Up show since you're going to be there, you're creepy especially talking about "banging" Miley Cyrus a 16 year old. Gross.

I have to give the guys from the band a heads up that you might yell at them or start trouble when they play "Mr. Roboto".

styxfanNH wrote:Suite,
There is no coincidence that heckyl and jeckyl are the same person. They adopted the same line of attack when "made for barbecue" appeared.

We shouldn't feed the trolls. Although I realize that I just did.

Just because we don't kiss denny's ass we are considered the same person eh? Well if i was chickenbeef why don't i post upstairs with that name??? Plus don't you think i would've been banned if i had multiple accounts?

styxfanNH wrote:Suite,
There is no coincidence that heckyl and jeckyl are the same person. They adopted the same line of attack when "made for barbecue" appeared.

We shouldn't feed the trolls. Although I realize that I just did.

I deleted my post, but it was too late and I fed the trolls.

It's funny, you see one log on, then the other and then they're both listed at the bottom for 5 minutes of being on-line. Then one disappears.

He's a very sick and bored individual that just wants to cause trouble.

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

styxfanNH wrote:Suite,
There is no coincidence that heckyl and jeckyl are the same person. They adopted the same line of attack when "made for barbecue" appeared.

We shouldn't feed the trolls. Although I realize that I just did.

I deleted my post, but it was too late and I fed the trolls.

It's funny, you see one log on, then the other and then they're both listed at the bottom for 5 minutes of being on-line. Then one disappears.

He's a very sick and bored individual that just wants to cause trouble.

Same repetitive crap over and over and over again. Grow up

StyxCollector wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:styx is a rock band and dennis is a wanna be broadway act

Let's see ... the last time I saw Dennis do anything "theatrical" (including Hunchback material or 10oB) was maybe 5 years ago, if not longer. Get your head out of your ass and pay attention before spouting tired lines which are not even true.

have you not heard him sing grand illusion recently?

Bearded Clam wrote:Question for Chickenbeef and Nightbull... How old were guys when you dropped out of High School? Do you regret it now?

I graduated and then went to Berklee

Toph wrote:

gr8dane wrote:

Toph wrote:

brywool wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

This is true. Shaw sings better now than he ever did. Who was the guy playing the Renegade guitar solo in those DeYoung clips? Terrible. Other than that, it was decent, but I don't think it's anything that DeYoung could say "This is Styx". To call a band with ONE GUY "Band Name" is ridiculous. It's like Mike Love calling his band "The Beach Boys". Isn't he the only one in that band (and the suckiest vocalist out of all of them)?

Probably not realizing it, but you just proved my point.

Replace Tommy and JY with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston. Replace DDY with Brian Wilson.

You have the exact scenario with the Beach Boys. The guy that is most associated with the band doesn't have the name and tours under his own banner. The better show is Brian Wilson. The Beach Boys get booked to play after baseball games and with other "oldie acts". Brian Wilson tours significantly less, but when he puts on a show, it is high quality and only him (vs. having to share the limelight with other acts).

The way I read it,that if it was Styx with just Dennis,it would be like Beach Boys with Mike Love.

You read it wrong. Dennis is the Brian Wilson of Styx.

Ahh,but are you brywool?

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:

Thenightbull wrote:

chickenbeef wrote:why would you want April or whatever his name is to sound like a young Tommy???? Present Tommy is 1000x's better than he used to be.

april? lol his name is august beef.

his parent's failed at naming him

You're about to feel the wrath of suitemadameblue....

Tick tock, tick tock, just a matter of time that you'll be gone along with your other account.

Whatever you say ma'am. See ya in a couple weeks

Ick. Thanks for the warning. I decided not to bring my kids to the Light Up show since you're going to be there, you're creepy especially talking about "banging" Miley Cyrus a 16 year old. Gross.

I have to give the guys from the band a heads up that you might yell at them or start trouble when they play "Mr. Roboto".

she's 17 idiot,,,that makes it okay...how old are you nightbull??? mid 20's???