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I've seen some opinions out here indicating that the GI/PO8 idea isn't selling all that well. Does anyone know if that's really true? And if it is, do you think they will carry on through the end, or cancel dates if they really have issues selling tickets. I sure hope it doesn't come to that. I'm assuming they're on their own for this, and that they're hitting venues that seat between 2-5K. Is that right? I don't think a show that features these 2 great albums is a bad idea (although I'd like it better if they were whole again, but yet I digress).

I've decided that if they swing by the Philly area (or Reading, they were there w/REO last year), I'd probably go, simply because I love those albums, and on the hope that Gowan's imperfections that annoy me would be lost (or minimized greatly) by the nature of a live show.

I live ~20 mins from the Reading Sovereign Center where they played w/REO, and I didn't go. I just didn't have an interest in REO, and given that shared bills result in smaller set lists, I just didn't want to spend the $. Is it odd that I'm a huge Styx fan, but could really care less about REO? I don't hate them, I'm just ambivalent. It's seem to me that practically everyone else that likes one, likes both.

If you book them they will come simple as that.

BTW i'm as much as a die hard fan of REO as i'am styx.

Keiferb wrote:I've seen some opinions out here indicating that the GI/PO8 idea isn't selling all that well. Does anyone know if that's really true? And if it is, do you think they will carry on through the end, or cancel dates if they really have issues selling tickets. I sure hope it doesn't come to that. I'm assuming they're on their own for this, and that they're hitting venues that seat between 2-5K. Is that right? I don't think a show that features these 2 great albums is a bad idea (although I'd like it better if they were whole again, but yet I digress).

I've decided that if they swing by the Philly area (or Reading, they were there w/REO last year), I'd probably go, simply because I love those albums, and on the hope that Gowan's imperfections that annoy me would be lost (or minimized greatly) by the nature of a live show.

I live ~20 mins from the Reading Sovereign Center where they played w/REO, and I didn't go. I just didn't have an interest in REO, and given that shared bills result in smaller set lists, I just didn't want to spend the $. Is it odd that I'm a huge Styx fan, but could really care less about REO? I don't hate them, I'm just ambivalent. It's seem to me that practically everyone else that likes one, likes both.

I would not go for free, In my back yard

froy wrote:

Keiferb wrote:I've seen some opinions out here indicating that the GI/PO8 idea isn't selling all that well. Does anyone know if that's really true? And if it is, do you think they will carry on through the end, or cancel dates if they really have issues selling tickets. I sure hope it doesn't come to that. I'm assuming they're on their own for this, and that they're hitting venues that seat between 2-5K. Is that right? I don't think a show that features these 2 great albums is a bad idea (although I'd like it better if they were whole again, but yet I digress).

I've decided that if they swing by the Philly area (or Reading, they were there w/REO last year), I'd probably go, simply because I love those albums, and on the hope that Gowan's imperfections that annoy me would be lost (or minimized greatly) by the nature of a live show.

I live ~20 mins from the Reading Sovereign Center where they played w/REO, and I didn't go. I just didn't have an interest in REO, and given that shared bills result in smaller set lists, I just didn't want to spend the $. Is it odd that I'm a huge Styx fan, but could really care less about REO? I don't hate them, I'm just ambivalent. It's seem to me that practically everyone else that likes one, likes both.

I would not go for free, In my back yard

A shame really. Your gonna miss a helluva show in waukegan. Too bad you can't put your petty jealousy aside.

Everett wrote:

froy wrote:

Keiferb wrote:I've seen some opinions out here indicating that the GI/PO8 idea isn't selling all that well. Does anyone know if that's really true? And if it is, do you think they will carry on through the end, or cancel dates if they really have issues selling tickets. I sure hope it doesn't come to that. I'm assuming they're on their own for this, and that they're hitting venues that seat between 2-5K. Is that right? I don't think a show that features these 2 great albums is a bad idea (although I'd like it better if they were whole again, but yet I digress).

I've decided that if they swing by the Philly area (or Reading, they were there w/REO last year), I'd probably go, simply because I love those albums, and on the hope that Gowan's imperfections that annoy me would be lost (or minimized greatly) by the nature of a live show.

I live ~20 mins from the Reading Sovereign Center where they played w/REO, and I didn't go. I just didn't have an interest in REO, and given that shared bills result in smaller set lists, I just didn't want to spend the $. Is it odd that I'm a huge Styx fan, but could really care less about REO? I don't hate them, I'm just ambivalent. It's seem to me that practically everyone else that likes one, likes both.

I would not go for free, In my back yard

A shame really. Your gonna miss a helluva show in waukegan. Too bad you can't put your petty jealousy aside.

You wanna see 3rd rate concerts go ahead. I only see the best.

I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

Keiferb wrote:I've seen some opinions out here indicating that the GI/PO8 idea isn't selling all that well. Does anyone know if that's really true? And if it is, do you think they will carry on through the end, or cancel dates if they really have issues selling tickets. I sure hope it doesn't come to that. I'm assuming they're on their own for this, and that they're hitting venues that seat between 2-5K. Is that right? I don't think a show that features these 2 great albums is a bad idea (although I'd like it better if they were whole again, but yet I digress).

I've decided that if they swing by the Philly area (or Reading, they were there w/REO last year), I'd probably go, simply because I love those albums, and on the hope that Gowan's imperfections that annoy me would be lost (or minimized greatly) by the nature of a live show.

I live ~20 mins from the Reading Sovereign Center where they played w/REO, and I didn't go. I just didn't have an interest in REO, and given that shared bills result in smaller set lists, I just didn't want to spend the $. Is it odd that I'm a huge Styx fan, but could really care less about REO? I don't hate them, I'm just ambivalent. It's seem to me that practically everyone else that likes one, likes both.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out for them. I am not sure how much the general Styx fan is interested in them doing this type of show. Seems to me that die hards would be more interested. And thats not a lot of people.

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

there was a monsters of Rock type of show here 10 bands with UFO and others

25 bucks to get in

at those prices, I'll wait for the DVD

at those prices, I'll wait for the DVD. I see the NFL is concerned about blackout rules, seems its getting harder and harder to sell out the staduims when the best seat in the house is in your living room, on that expensive Plasma high def TV everyone is buying.

I believe the same is starting to happen on the classic rock circuit.

Now all I need is some money to buy that TV......

classicstyxfan wrote:at those prices, I'll wait for the DVD. I see the NFL is concerned about blackout rules, seems its getting harder and harder to sell out the staduims when the best seat in the house is in your living room, on that expensive Plasma high def TV everyone is buying.

I believe the same is starting to happen on the classic rock circuit.

Now all I need is some money to buy that TV......

You and me both

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

Clearly, I'm living in a fantasy world. My concert budget money went to Roger Waters anyway.
Seeing Waters perform the Wall concert with a chance that Gilmour shows up against Styx playing two great albums, but ultimately, the majority of the songs we've heard live ad nauseum is a no-brainer.

froy wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

there was a monsters of Rock type of show here 10 bands with UFO and others

25 bucks to get in

Froy, define here ... you're in the midwest. The Beacon is in NYC. If Styx did this GI/Po8 at the Chicago Theater downtown (where DDY did one of his orchestral shows) or at the Rosemont (where DDY did 2 orchestral shows), the tickets STILL wouldn't be under $50.

And 10 bands nobody cares about for $25? Ho hum.

StyxCollector wrote:

froy wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

there was a monsters of Rock type of show here 10 bands with UFO and others

25 bucks to get in

Froy, define here ... you're in the midwest. The Beacon is in NYC. If Styx did this GI/Po8 at the Chicago Theater downtown (where DDY did one of his orchestral shows) or at the Rosemont (where DDY did 2 orchestral shows), the tickets STILL wouldn't be under $50.

And 10 bands nobody cares about for $25? Ho hum.

UFO is worth 25 bucks the rest are throw ins
Chicago is where Im at you know that and STYX would never play the Chicago theater they would never sell enough tickets and its to expensive for there cheap budget

Bearded Clam wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

Clearly, I'm living in a fantasy world. My concert budget money went to Roger Waters anyway.
Seeing Waters perform the Wall concert with a chance that Gilmour shows up against Styx playing two great albums, but ultimately, the majority of the songs we've heard live ad nauseum is a no-brainer.

Waters is coming to Atlanta in November. Thought about getting a VIP ticket until I saw the price on it, $700. The premium ticket price is $450.

"styxfansite"

Waters is coming to Atlanta in November. Thought about getting a VIP ticket until I saw the price on it, $700. The premium ticket price is $450.

4 nights in Chicago, Man is this guy raking it in . He's more than Sir Paul

Bearded Clam wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

Clearly, I'm living in a fantasy world. My concert budget money went to Roger Waters anyway.
Seeing Waters perform the Wall concert with a chance that Gilmour shows up against Styx playing two great albums, but ultimately, the majority of the songs we've heard live ad nauseum is a no-brainer.

I put my concert money in the Waters show as well. Couldn't pass that up. Besides theres no point in going to see Styx doing two of their most classic albums when one of the members that had a lot to do with the making of them isn't in the band anymore.

Boomchild wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

Bearded Clam wrote:I'd go to the Beacon show if the tickets were below $40. As much as I would love to hear many of the tracks from PO8 live for the first time.

What world are you living in? The last time a show at the beacon was under $40 was probably in the 80s or 90s. I don't think I've paid less than $50 for any Styx show in the past 10 years, let alone at a top venue in NYC ...

Clearly, I'm living in a fantasy world. My concert budget money went to Roger Waters anyway.
Seeing Waters perform the Wall concert with a chance that Gilmour shows up against Styx playing two great albums, but ultimately, the majority of the songs we've heard live ad nauseum is a no-brainer.

I put my concert money in the Waters show as well. Couldn't pass that up. Besides theres no point in going to see Styx doing two of their most classic albums when one of the members that had a lot to do with the making of them isn't in the band anymore.

But if dennis was doing the paradise theater album you'd buy that ticket in a heart beat right?

I'm sorry ... but the Roger Waters comments crack me up. I know some of you dislike Styx, and I certainly have some issues with some things, but the cost justification for Roger Waters - who had his own lipgate which gets shoved under the rug - over a band that plays live is just laughable. McCartney may not be what he was, but it's still him up there singing. Hate Gowan all you want, it's him live. If you want to pay $100s to see a recording, it's all you.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2010/05/0 ... er-waters/

(just do a search ... it's not like this is the only thing out there)

Don't get me wrong - I like Floyd, but really?

people are full of shit...... the ticket sales are just fine for this tour and i know for certain that i had trouble getting the seats I wanted in louisville and nashville.

That was the first I've heard of any lip synching claims concerning Waters, but ultimately, I couldn't give a shit.
It's not like he's Steve Perry or something, he Roger fuckin Waters, he's never had a great singing voice to begin with.

And if you can't understand why Floyd fans would pay big bucks to see him doing The Wall live, including the actual building of the Wall itself ala 1980, then I don't know what to tell you. Especially considering there's a chance that Gilmour may show up.

What I don't understand is why anyone would pay more than $40 to see Styx live. I actually like Gowan, I enjoy what he brings to the live performance, but he detracts from the mystique of playing those two albums in their entirety. He had nothing to do with them so it doesn't really mean anything to me.
Now if they did this with Dennis, even leaving Gowan in there on Keys, I'd pay big bucks.

Bearded Clam wrote:That was the first I've heard of any lip synching claims concerning Waters, but ultimately, I couldn't give a shit.
It's not like he's Steve Perry or something, he Roger fuckin Waters, he's never had a great singing voice to begin with.

Which makes it worse! I know he can't sing well.

Bearded Clam wrote: And if you can't understand why Floyd fans would pay big bucks to see him doing The Wall live, including the actual building of the Wall itself ala 1980, then I don't know what to tell you. Especially considering there's a chance that Gilmour may show up.

Gilmour said he may show up for ONE show, so everyone is hoping it's theirs. I have seen the 80 show on video (own it actually). Wasn't THAT impressive.

Bearded Clam wrote: What I don't understand is why anyone would pay more than $40 to see Styx live. I actually like Gowan, I enjoy what he brings to the live performance, but he detracts from the mystique of playing those two albums in their entirety. He had nothing to do with them so it doesn't really mean anything to me.
Now if they did this with Dennis, even leaving Gowan in there on Keys, I'd pay big bucks.

As I said, I have my issues with some of the songs he sings, but I wouldn't spend stupid money on a lip sync'er. I wouldn't even spend big bucks if Dennis was back. The most I would spend would probably be $80ish for a show like GI/Po8.

I am not "defending" Waters, since I have never seen him live before, and ABSOLUTELY ABHOR lip-syncing.

With that said, I did read somewhere (maybe it was the Rolling Stone article), that he was working hard with a vocal coach to try and meet his younger voice as much as possible. Plus, I'd like to think that in 10 years or so since the In The Flesh tour, there have been "advances" that enable him to not have to lip-sync. Maybe auto tune?

This is my belief. I will GLADLY admit I am wrong if it is proven to be the case. I'll be livid about it, but I'll admit it.

Here is a clip of Roger doing HEY YOU on this tour. Recall he sings a rather high part at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5dUkZ-s4-I

Sounds like the excessive harmony case again. That's ok with me, assuming it is coming from the 4 background singers he has on this tour. I HOPE!

The lip sync rumors were from the 2006 tour, not 10 years ago ...

I hope you guys get your money's worth. I'm sure visually it will be a spectacle.

Bearded Clam wrote: And if you can't understand why Floyd fans would pay big bucks to see him doing The Wall live, including the actual building of the Wall itself ala 1980, then I don't know what to tell you. Especially considering there's a chance that Gilmour may show up.

Gilmour said he may show up for ONE show, so everyone is hoping it's theirs. I have seen the 80 show on video (own it actually). Wasn't THAT impressive.

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Do you mean the 1990 Wall in Berlin or did he do one in the 80's also?

Bearded Clam wrote:That was the first I've heard of any lip synching claims concerning Waters, but ultimately, I couldn't give a shit.
It's not like he's Steve Perry or something, he Roger fuckin Waters, he's never had a great singing voice to begin with.

And if you can't understand why Floyd fans would pay big bucks to see him doing The Wall live, including the actual building of the Wall itself ala 1980, then I don't know what to tell you. Especially considering there's a chance that Gilmour may show up.

What I don't understand is why anyone would pay more than $40 to see Styx live. I actually like Gowan, I enjoy what he brings to the live performance, but he detracts from the mystique of playing those two albums in their entirety. He had nothing to do with them so it doesn't really mean anything to me.
Now if they did this with Dennis, even leaving Gowan in there on Keys, I'd pay big bucks.

I'd be more inclined to believe that if there is any vocal tracking, it would be for filler, not as a replacement. Maybe I'm too optimistic on this point. I will tell you this, Gilmour does NOT use any vocal tracking of any sort that I can tell. The best example are his meltdown shows from about 9 years ago - mostly acoustic, with an awesome group of background singers. On the Remember That Night, and Gdansk DVD's you can hear that he tires some as the shows progress. He starts sounding a little more raspy, but man, he still sounds great. Really, he's on his own - it's not like the Eagles who have 4 principle singers with hits that can be rotated around to give breaks.

Of the divided Pink Floyd camp, if I were on a "side" (and I'd like to think I'm neutral), it would be Gilmour - simply because I appreciate more his contributions, and the fact that he seemed to realize that the Wright and Mason played important roles in the band - whereas I feel that on the later albums, Waters exuded his control (gee, that sounds familiar, doesn't it). This is not to imply the music was bad. I simply like Gilmour's contributions - nothing to be bitter about. And as far as the split, Waters walked away from the band, and turned over the name as far as I can tell, so it is what it is. I happen to think the post-Waters Pink Floyd albums stand up quite well against the others (IMO). The solos on Sorrow, On The Turning Away, High Hopes - they almost make me verklempt.

I don't think fans of Pink Floyd love them (whether Waters or Gilmour) because they are/were vocally perfect. It was the Music, the Experience, The Angst, the Message, and the Emotion. I say that, frankly not really giving a crap about their variant political views and/or motives. But I will say this, at least they show they care about things they find important, and if nothing else, the cause and effect resulted in great music.

I'll end with this, and with all due respect to Styx and their Stygians (of which I am one), comparing a Styx show (whether with/without DDY and/or Gowan) with a Floyd (or Waters, or Gilmour, or even the Aussie Floyd tribute band- which I've seen) production is silly. There's no comparison.

styxfansite wrote:Do you mean the 1990 Wall in Berlin or did he do one in the 80's also?

No, the original Wall concert from 1980. Not the 1990 recreation. PF did limited showings of the Wall (NYC, London, and LA I believe). Only a few shows.

StyxCollector wrote:

styxfansite wrote:Do you mean the 1990 Wall in Berlin or did he do one in the 80's also?

No, the original Wall concert from 1980. Not the 1990 recreation. PF did limited showings of the Wall (NYC, London, and LA I believe). Only a few shows.

i think it was only about 10 NA tour dates but they did a lot more in Europe