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Which would have been a bigger hit in 1985?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:03 am
by Toph
Imagine both these songs were released as singles in 1985, which do you think is a bigger hit?

Re: Which would have been a bigger hit in 1985?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:04 am
by Toph
Toph wrote:Imagine both these songs were released as singles in 1985, which do you think is a bigger hit?


Gotta believe that Paradise with its big chorus would have hit top 3 in 1985...but also betting that WTST could have gone top 10.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:36 am
by yogi
Paradise & Roseland both would have been huge back in Styx's heyday. Paradise maybe a #1.

While There's Still Time would have gone the way of Dennis's 'Call Me'.

Both songs are TOTAL snoozers!!!


P.S. It Takes Love To Make Love may have cracked the top 40 back then. Little Suzie & On My Way both would have cracked the top 20 easily.

Re: Which would have been a bigger hit in 1985?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:32 am
by froy
Toph wrote:Imagine both these songs were released as singles in 1985, which do you think is a bigger hit?


Who knows Styx broke up because of Shaw so Desert Moon was the cd that year.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:16 am
by brywool
You guys are so stupid!

EVERYBODY

EVERYBODY knows that if JY had released "Wild Dogs" as a single that it would've surpassed even BABE as Styx's hugest hit? HOW can you ignore the magic of JY????
You guys just want to keep down the honest and true and ONLY talented member of Styx. Without JY, they would've been STYNX and you know it!!

How DARE you ignore such greatness!??

Image
"I AM JY, AND I WILL CRUSH YOU WITH MY CRUSHING GUITAR MAJESTY"

I find now that throughout the day, I ask myself "What would JY do?"

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:22 am
by froy
brywool wrote:You guys are so stupid!

EVERYBODY

EVERYBODY knows that if JY had released "Wild Dogs" as a single that it would've surpassed even BABE as Styx's hugest hit? HOW can you ignore the magic of JY????
You guys just want to keep down the honest and true and ONLY talented member of Styx. Without JY, they would've been STYNX and you know it!!

How DARE you ignore such greatness!??

Image
"I AM JY, AND I WILL CRUSH YOU WITH MY CRUSHING GUITAR MAJESTY"

I find now that throughout the day, I ask myself "What would JY do?"


Wow all this time I thought it was Dennis who was the man now I have seen the Light JY was the true Homewrecker

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:26 am
by pinkfloyd1973
brywool wrote:You guys are so stupid!

EVERYBODY

EVERYBODY knows that if JY had released "Wild Dogs" as a single that it would've surpassed even BABE as Styx's hugest hit? HOW can you ignore the magic of JY????
You guys just want to keep down the honest and true and ONLY talented member of Styx. Without JY, they would've been STYNX and you know it!!

How DARE you ignore such greatness!??

Image
"I AM JY, AND I WILL CRUSH YOU WITH MY CRUSHING GUITAR MAJESTY"

I find now that throughout the day, I ask myself "What would JY do?"


BAHAHAHA! good one :lol:

Re: Which would have been a bigger hit in 1985?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:23 pm
by Boomchild
Toph wrote:Imagine both these songs were released as singles in 1985, which do you think is a bigger hit?

I would have to say Paradise. WTST I think is a little to slow and soft to have been something to chart for Styx at that time.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:03 pm
by BlackWall
"Paradise" should have been huge in 1997; so, in '85? No question. I hated "WTST" at first, but have formed some appreciation for it. I actually think it would have been a bigger '70s hit than '80s, but then again, I could see some hair band like "Poison" making it work in the later '80s.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:04 am
by brywool
actually, I think if Styx came out with another "Paradise" song that the record buying public would've audibly sighed and not purchased it. Paradise Theater. Rocking The Paradise. Paradise, can it be all I heard it was? ... The end of Paradise. And then of course, there was Almost Paradise with Ann Wilson and Mike Reno. It was Paradise overkill.

I remember when Dennis released "Paradise"- I thought, here we go again... Good song, but I wish he'd have used a different lyrical touch point.

"Hairy Thighs" maybe? ;)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:39 am
by Monker
brywool wrote:actually, I think if Styx came out with another "Paradise" song that the record buying public would've audibly sighed and not purchased it. Paradise Theater. Rocking The Paradise. Paradise, can it be all I heard it was? ... The end of Paradise. And then of course, there was Almost Paradise with Ann Wilson and Mike Reno. It was Paradise overkill.

I remember when Dennis released "Paradise"- I thought, here we go again... Good song, but I wish he'd have used a different lyrical touch point.

"Hairy Thighs" maybe? ;)


Perry's Dice?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:25 am
by Ash
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:34 am
by brywool
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:41 pm
by Boomchild
brywool wrote:
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...


Who really cares? No one did then and no does now. I remember when he released these albums and going to the record store to buy them. Couldn't find them anywhere and when you would ask the sales clerk about it all you would get from them was a "deer in the headlights look" and "who is he again".

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:25 am
by Toph
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...


Who really cares? No one did then and no does now. I remember when he released these albums and going to the record store to buy them. Couldn't find them anywhere and when you would ask the sales clerk about it all you would get from them was a "deer in the headlights look" and "who is he again".



LOL! That reminds me of something else - I remember when JY used to send out these newsletters to his fans in the late 80s on his "solo career" and I think he was promoting Out On a Day Pass. I remember in one of the newsletters he explained that his new album was out on LP, but not available on cassette. But if you wanted it on cassette that a homemade cassette tape would be made of the album and sent to you along with the album cover. I was like, WTF? Is JY going to be sitting in his living room pushing the record button on his living room stereo tape deck to make me a "cassette copy" of the album? I found it hilarious. Hilarious that a) JY had a record deal where he got LPs but not cassette tapes, and b) the fact that a cassette copy would actually be made from the LP and sent to you with the album jacket!!
It was at that point I knew that the Styx star had fallen indeed.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:22 am
by brywool
Toph wrote:

LOL! That reminds me of something else - I remember when JY used to send out these newsletters to his fans in the late 80s on his "solo career" and I think he was promoting Out On a Day Pass. I remember in one of the newsletters he explained that his new album was out on LP, but not available on cassette. But if you wanted it on cassette that a homemade cassette tape would be made of the album and sent to you along with the album cover. I was like, WTF? Is JY going to be sitting in his living room pushing the record button on his living room stereo tape deck to make me a "cassette copy" of the album? I found it hilarious. Hilarious that a) JY had a record deal where he got LPs but not cassette tapes, and b) the fact that a cassette copy would actually be made from the LP and sent to you with the album jacket!!
It was at that point I knew that the Styx star had fallen indeed.


YIKES

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:43 am
by yogi
JY actually sent me one(cassette copy) where I could hear his wife yelling in the background that his dinner was ready. For the longest time I thought it was part of the song. Then I got the LP and the yelling that JY's dinner was ready wasnt on it. On my cassette it's at the 2:03 mark of Toys For American Boys where you hear' Honey your dinners ready, I made green lime jello with fruit in it, come on now'

To no surprise this was the best part of the song.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:11 am
by brywool
yogi wrote:JY actually sent me one(cassette copy) where I could hear his wife yelling in the background that his dinner was ready. For the longest time I thought it was part of the song. Then I got the LP and the yelling that JY's dinner was ready wasnt on it. On my cassette it's at the 2:03 mark of Toys For American Boys where you hear' Honey your dinners ready, I made green lime jello with fruit in it, come on now'

To no surprise this was the best part of the song.


HAHAHA. Jy is the Rodney Dangerfield of Styx...

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:35 am
by yogi
I like JY always have & always will. I just found it odd that on the LP outside of the song 'Young Man' they had cut out the best part of the entire tape.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:54 am
by bugsymalone
Toph wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...


Who really cares? No one did then and no does now. I remember when he released these albums and going to the record store to buy them. Couldn't find them anywhere and when you would ask the sales clerk about it all you would get from them was a "deer in the headlights look" and "who is he again".



LOL! That reminds me of something else - I remember when JY used to send out these newsletters to his fans in the late 80s on his "solo career" and I think he was promoting Out On a Day Pass. I remember in one of the newsletters he explained that his new album was out on LP, but not available on cassette. But if you wanted it on cassette that a homemade cassette tape would be made of the album and sent to you along with the album cover. I was like, WTF? Is JY going to be sitting in his living room pushing the record button on his living room stereo tape deck to make me a "cassette copy" of the album? I found it hilarious. Hilarious that a) JY had a record deal where he got LPs but not cassette tapes, and b) the fact that a cassette copy would actually be made from the LP and sent to you with the album jacket!!
It was at that point I knew that the Styx star had fallen indeed.


Sitting here LMAO. First of all, JY -- Tough Guy in his blonde, perm, frizz 'do. (I know various member had some strange styles back in the day, but this one remains a classic.)

My guess is, it was easy for JY to fill that "demand" for cassette tapes (with the album cover bonus!) because, likely, he, or his friends in the living room, only had to make about 3 copies to send out.

Dang, Yogi! That's a true rarity you own there with the dinner call-out in the background. Don't lose it!

Bugsy

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:43 am
by gr8dane
bugsymalone wrote:
Toph wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...


Who really cares? No one did then and no does now. I remember when he released these albums and going to the record store to buy them. Couldn't find them anywhere and when you would ask the sales clerk about it all you would get from them was a "deer in the headlights look" and "who is he again".



LOL! That reminds me of something else - I remember when JY used to send out these newsletters to his fans in the late 80s on his "solo career" and I think he was promoting Out On a Day Pass. I remember in one of the newsletters he explained that his new album was out on LP, but not available on cassette. But if you wanted it on cassette that a homemade cassette tape would be made of the album and sent to you along with the album cover. I was like, WTF? Is JY going to be sitting in his living room pushing the record button on his living room stereo tape deck to make me a "cassette copy" of the album? I found it hilarious. Hilarious that a) JY had a record deal where he got LPs but not cassette tapes, and b) the fact that a cassette copy would actually be made from the LP and sent to you with the album jacket!!
It was at that point I knew that the Styx star had fallen indeed.


Sitting here LMAO. First of all, JY -- Tough Guy in his blonde, perm, frizz 'do. (I know various member had some strange styles back in the day, but this one remains a classic.)

My guess is, it was easy for JY to fill that "demand" for cassette tapes (with the album cover bonus!) because, likely, he, or his friends in the living room, only had to make about 3 copies to send out.

Dang, Yogi! That's a true rarity you own there with the dinner call-out in the background. Don't lose it!

Bugsy


Hopefully he sold enough not to have lost out on the postage and envelopes.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:16 pm
by Keiferb
yogi wrote:JY actually sent me one(cassette copy) where I could hear his wife yelling in the background that his dinner was ready. For the longest time I thought it was part of the song. Then I got the LP and the yelling that JY's dinner was ready wasnt on it. On my cassette it's at the 2:03 mark of Toys For American Boys where you hear' Honey your dinners ready, I made green lime jello with fruit in it, come on now'

To no surprise this was the best part of the song.


That is hilarious. You couldn't make something like that up. But come on, will you admit that the green lime jello is a bit of an enhancement?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:00 pm
by Boomchild
Toph wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...


Who really cares? No one did then and no does now. I remember when he released these albums and going to the record store to buy them. Couldn't find them anywhere and when you would ask the sales clerk about it all you would get from them was a "deer in the headlights look" and "who is he again".



LOL! That reminds me of something else - I remember when JY used to send out these newsletters to his fans in the late 80s on his "solo career" and I think he was promoting Out On a Day Pass. I remember in one of the newsletters he explained that his new album was out on LP, but not available on cassette. But if you wanted it on cassette that a homemade cassette tape would be made of the album and sent to you along with the album cover. I was like, WTF? Is JY going to be sitting in his living room pushing the record button on his living room stereo tape deck to make me a "cassette copy" of the album? I found it hilarious. Hilarious that a) JY had a record deal where he got LPs but not cassette tapes, and b) the fact that a cassette copy would actually be made from the LP and sent to you with the album jacket!!
It was at that point I knew that the Styx star had fallen indeed.


That's too funny. Could you imagine the recorded label saying to him "JY this is worth a couple of vinyl pressings but you can forget about a cassette". It's got to be bad when they won't even put out your album on all the current formats of the day.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:06 pm
by Boomchild
gr8dane wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
Toph wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ash wrote:
brywool wrote:Image


Wasn't this the photo promo from Out On A Day Pass?


Not sure. Just grabbed it. I think it was the same time period, though I can't imagine JY going for the Danelectro...


Who really cares? No one did then and no does now. I remember when he released these albums and going to the record store to buy them. Couldn't find them anywhere and when you would ask the sales clerk about it all you would get from them was a "deer in the headlights look" and "who is he again".



LOL! That reminds me of something else - I remember when JY used to send out these newsletters to his fans in the late 80s on his "solo career" and I think he was promoting Out On a Day Pass. I remember in one of the newsletters he explained that his new album was out on LP, but not available on cassette. But if you wanted it on cassette that a homemade cassette tape would be made of the album and sent to you along with the album cover. I was like, WTF? Is JY going to be sitting in his living room pushing the record button on his living room stereo tape deck to make me a "cassette copy" of the album? I found it hilarious. Hilarious that a) JY had a record deal where he got LPs but not cassette tapes, and b) the fact that a cassette copy would actually be made from the LP and sent to you with the album jacket!!
It was at that point I knew that the Styx star had fallen indeed.


Sitting here LMAO. First of all, JY -- Tough Guy in his blonde, perm, frizz 'do. (I know various member had some strange styles back in the day, but this one remains a classic.)

My guess is, it was easy for JY to fill that "demand" for cassette tapes (with the album cover bonus!) because, likely, he, or his friends in the living room, only had to make about 3 copies to send out.

Dang, Yogi! That's a true rarity you own there with the dinner call-out in the background. Don't lose it!

Bugsy


Hopefully he sold enough not to have lost out on the postage and envelopes.


He didn't lose out. It came with a "free" Ginsu knife set all you had to do was pay extra for the postage and handling.