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The Great Divide

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:02 am
by ChicagoSTYX

Re: The Great Divide

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:04 am
by ChicagoSTYX
ChicagoSTYX wrote:http://zh-cn.connect.facebook.com/tsgreatdivide

Something to talk about!


If you look through the posts you will find a sample of a song.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:54 am
by pinkfloyd1973
His voice is certainly suited for that genre of music, but i'm not a fan of country music or bluegrass for that matter :wink:



Robin 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:29 pm
by masque
i am actually looking forward to this thing alot!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:05 pm
by bugsymalone
I want to hear this one, for sure. I like some forms of bluegrass music a lot. Used to play some back in my folkie days.

The integration of the instruments in bluegrass music is often intricate and really cool to hear. Hope this shows up on this album.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:02 am
by yogi
So Bugsy since you once played Bluegrass music according to Allan that makes you an expert.

Will I like it??? Am I crazy if I dont purchase this CD? Have you ever played in a Christopher Cross 'cove.' errr.... I mean 'tribute' band????

Re: The Great Divide

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:18 am
by Toph
ChicagoSTYX wrote:http://zh-cn.connect.facebook.com/tsgreatdivide

Something to talk about!


So much better than rehashing old Styx songs with inferior talent....

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:27 am
by bugsymalone
yogi wrote:So Bugsy since you once played Bluegrass music according to Allan that makes you an expert.

Will I like it??? Am I crazy if I dont purchase this CD? Have you ever played in a Christopher Cross 'cove.' errr.... I mean 'tribute' band????


Yes. Total expert. Errr...not. Actually, back in my days of playing clubs (with others) around Austin, I was considered a very good finger picker...on the guitar, mind you. :wink:

"When you get caught between the moon and New York City...." That may be the extent of anything I know about Christopher Cross. Oh, well, I did like one or two of his songs, but I was way more into playing America covers.

And what DID become of Christopher Cross anyways? He had to rent a U-Haul to carry home all his Grammy's and then, apparently, drove it over a cliff.

As to buying Tommy's Bluegrass CD. I would listen to the inevitable samples that will show up out there and judge for yourself.

My guess is the Alabama accent will come heavily into play on the vocals and there will be terrific guitar/Dobro/mandolin work on it.


Bugsy

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:05 pm
by Boomchild
bugsymalone wrote:
yogi wrote:So Bugsy since you once played Bluegrass music according to Allan that makes you an expert.

Will I like it??? Am I crazy if I dont purchase this CD? Have you ever played in a Christopher Cross 'cove.' errr.... I mean 'tribute' band????


Yes. Total expert. Errr...not. Actually, back in my days of playing clubs (with others) around Austin, I was considered a very good finger picker...on the guitar, mind you. :wink:

"When you get caught between the moon and New York City...." That may be the extent of anything I know about Christopher Cross. Oh, well, I did like one or two of his songs, but I was way more into playing America covers.

And what DID become of Christopher Cross anyways? He had to rent a U-Haul to carry home all his Grammy's and then, apparently, drove it over a cliff.

As to buying Tommy's Bluegrass CD. I would listen to the inevitable samples that will show up out there and judge for yourself.

My guess is the Alabama accent will come heavily into play on the vocals and there will be terrific guitar/Dobro/mandolin work on it.


Bugsy


MTV is what happened to Christopher Cross. He didn't have "the look" needed for videos on MTV. It stalled and even maybe killed his career.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:43 am
by Rockwriter
Boomchild wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
yogi wrote:So Bugsy since you once played Bluegrass music according to Allan that makes you an expert.

Will I like it??? Am I crazy if I dont purchase this CD? Have you ever played in a Christopher Cross 'cove.' errr.... I mean 'tribute' band????


Yes. Total expert. Errr...not. Actually, back in my days of playing clubs (with others) around Austin, I was considered a very good finger picker...on the guitar, mind you. :wink:

"When you get caught between the moon and New York City...." That may be the extent of anything I know about Christopher Cross. Oh, well, I did like one or two of his songs, but I was way more into playing America covers.

And what DID become of Christopher Cross anyways? He had to rent a U-Haul to carry home all his Grammy's and then, apparently, drove it over a cliff.

As to buying Tommy's Bluegrass CD. I would listen to the inevitable samples that will show up out there and judge for yourself.

My guess is the Alabama accent will come heavily into play on the vocals and there will be terrific guitar/Dobro/mandolin work on it.


Bugsy


MTV is what happened to Christopher Cross. He didn't have "the look" needed for videos on MTV. It stalled and even maybe killed his career.


Christopher Cross is preceded by a certain kind of reputation. He puts all these weird restrictions on shows he plays, makes all kind of irrational demands - and that's now, when he's in no real position. My offhand guess is that he helped sink his own career by acting like a maniac back when he was big enough to do so. People remember that kind of thing and then when you're not so big anymore, they choose to avoid booking you. And not to be unkind, but bless his heart, he's not exactly visually appealing, as you pointed out. Maybe that shouldn't matter, but it does. Kinda like Kansas, LOL.

By the way, I really like his music, so I'm not saying that from the perspective of someone who's against him. He's a great singer and a truly underrated guitarist in my opinion. But if I had a venue of my own and the money to book him, I probably wouldn't, based on what I've heard about him.

As for Tommy's bluegrass album, I won't be a bit surprised if it's the best thing he's ever done. I know a lot of people don't agree with me when I say this, but I've always thought Styx was a stretch for him and not that suited to his real talents. See him live with Shaw Blades, it's like seeing the real Tommy Shaw as opposed to Tommy Shaw making himself fit into a puzzle that he did not create. He's talented enough to pull it off - hell, he's talented enough to pull ANYTHING off - but it isn't really him. I expect this bluegrass record to be top-flight. And if what I hear is true and Marty Stuart is on it, it'll be BETTER than top-flight, because Marty is the King as far as that stuff goes.


Sterling

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:14 am
by Keiferb
Rockwriter wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
yogi wrote:So Bugsy since you once played Bluegrass music according to Allan that makes you an expert.

Will I like it??? Am I crazy if I dont purchase this CD? Have you ever played in a Christopher Cross 'cove.' errr.... I mean 'tribute' band????


Yes. Total expert. Errr...not. Actually, back in my days of playing clubs (with others) around Austin, I was considered a very good finger picker...on the guitar, mind you. :wink:

"When you get caught between the moon and New York City...." That may be the extent of anything I know about Christopher Cross. Oh, well, I did like one or two of his songs, but I was way more into playing America covers.

And what DID become of Christopher Cross anyways? He had to rent a U-Haul to carry home all his Grammy's and then, apparently, drove it over a cliff.

As to buying Tommy's Bluegrass CD. I would listen to the inevitable samples that will show up out there and judge for yourself.

My guess is the Alabama accent will come heavily into play on the vocals and there will be terrific guitar/Dobro/mandolin work on it.


Bugsy


MTV is what happened to Christopher Cross. He didn't have "the look" needed for videos on MTV. It stalled and even maybe killed his career.


Christopher Cross is preceded by a certain kind of reputation. He puts all these weird restrictions on shows he plays, makes all kind of irrational demands - and that's now, when he's in no real position. My offhand guess is that he helped sink his own career by acting like a maniac back when he was big enough to do so. People remember that kind of thing and then when you're not so big anymore, they choose to avoid booking you. And not to be unkind, but bless his heart, he's not exactly visually appealing, as you pointed out. Maybe that shouldn't matter, but it does. Kinda like Kansas, LOL.

By the way, I really like his music, so I'm not saying that from the perspective of someone who's against him. He's a great singer and a truly underrated guitarist in my opinion. But if I had a venue of my own and the money to book him, I probably wouldn't, based on what I've heard about him.

As for Tommy's bluegrass album, I won't be a bit surprised if it's the best thing he's ever done. I know a lot of people don't agree with me when I say this, but I've always thought Styx was a stretch for him and not that suited to his real talents. See him live with Shaw Blades, it's like seeing the real Tommy Shaw as opposed to Tommy Shaw making himself fit into a puzzle that he did not create. He's talented enough to pull it off - hell, he's talented enough to pull ANYTHING off - but it isn't really him. I expect this bluegrass record to be top-flight. And if what I hear is true and Marty Stuart is on it, it'll be BETTER than top-flight, because Marty is the King as far as that stuff goes.


Sterling


So, you're saying Christopher Cross is still around? Haven't heard anything out of him in quite a while. I always kind of liked his music. He did have a great voice too. He was a little chunky as I remember. "Ride Like the Wind" was one of my favorites. However, I think is best performance may have been as a session singer on Alan Parson's "On Air" disc. The song's name was "Long Way to Go" if I remember correctly. I'm a huge Parsons fan, loved "On Air" in whole, and was thrilled to hear Cross's voice. Sounded great. That had to be at least 10 years ago (too lazy to look at the disc) if not more.

I can see you're point on TS. I think he's just so talented (a bad solo efforts in "What If" aside). He's improved vocally with age - which is no small feat. I think he fit in Styx quite well, for it not being his "niche" as you say. When I think of the classic band I love (or loved), it's DDY, TS, and JY (as much as I can't stand him now) together. I know you don't like to get into the Gowan bashing, and I'm really not trying to start anything, but I do wonder why TS carry's on in this configuration. He is so talented - I'm surprised he isn't spending his time on these other ventures. I guess they're still makin' money, even if it is to the tune of 1500 seats every other night.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:52 pm
by Boomchild
Keiferb wrote:
Rockwriter wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
bugsymalone wrote:
yogi wrote:So Bugsy since you once played Bluegrass music according to Allan that makes you an expert.

Will I like it??? Am I crazy if I dont purchase this CD? Have you ever played in a Christopher Cross 'cove.' errr.... I mean 'tribute' band????


Yes. Total expert. Errr...not. Actually, back in my days of playing clubs (with others) around Austin, I was considered a very good finger picker...on the guitar, mind you. :wink:

"When you get caught between the moon and New York City...." That may be the extent of anything I know about Christopher Cross. Oh, well, I did like one or two of his songs, but I was way more into playing America covers.

And what DID become of Christopher Cross anyways? He had to rent a U-Haul to carry home all his Grammy's and then, apparently, drove it over a cliff.

As to buying Tommy's Bluegrass CD. I would listen to the inevitable samples that will show up out there and judge for yourself.

My guess is the Alabama accent will come heavily into play on the vocals and there will be terrific guitar/Dobro/mandolin work on it.


Bugsy


MTV is what happened to Christopher Cross. He didn't have "the look" needed for videos on MTV. It stalled and even maybe killed his career.


Christopher Cross is preceded by a certain kind of reputation. He puts all these weird restrictions on shows he plays, makes all kind of irrational demands - and that's now, when he's in no real position. My offhand guess is that he helped sink his own career by acting like a maniac back when he was big enough to do so. People remember that kind of thing and then when you're not so big anymore, they choose to avoid booking you. And not to be unkind, but bless his heart, he's not exactly visually appealing, as you pointed out. Maybe that shouldn't matter, but it does. Kinda like Kansas, LOL.

By the way, I really like his music, so I'm not saying that from the perspective of someone who's against him. He's a great singer and a truly underrated guitarist in my opinion. But if I had a venue of my own and the money to book him, I probably wouldn't, based on what I've heard about him.

As for Tommy's bluegrass album, I won't be a bit surprised if it's the best thing he's ever done. I know a lot of people don't agree with me when I say this, but I've always thought Styx was a stretch for him and not that suited to his real talents. See him live with Shaw Blades, it's like seeing the real Tommy Shaw as opposed to Tommy Shaw making himself fit into a puzzle that he did not create. He's talented enough to pull it off - hell, he's talented enough to pull ANYTHING off - but it isn't really him. I expect this bluegrass record to be top-flight. And if what I hear is true and Marty Stuart is on it, it'll be BETTER than top-flight, because Marty is the King as far as that stuff goes.


Sterling


So, you're saying Christopher Cross is still around? Haven't heard anything out of him in quite a while. I always kind of liked his music. He did have a great voice too. He was a little chunky as I remember. "Ride Like the Wind" was one of my favorites. However, I think is best performance may have been as a session singer on Alan Parson's "On Air" disc. The song's name was "Long Way to Go" if I remember correctly. I'm a huge Parsons fan, loved "On Air" in whole, and was thrilled to hear Cross's voice. Sounded great. That had to be at least 10 years ago (too lazy to look at the disc) if not more.

I can see you're point on TS. I think he's just so talented (a bad solo efforts in "What If" aside). He's improved vocally with age - which is no small feat. I think he fit in Styx quite well, for it not being his "niche" as you say. When I think of the classic band I love (or loved), it's DDY, TS, and JY (as much as I can't stand him now) together. I know you don't like to get into the Gowan bashing, and I'm really not trying to start anything, but I do wonder why TS carry's on in this configuration. He is so talented - I'm surprised he isn't spending his time on these other ventures. I guess they're still makin' money, even if it is to the tune of 1500 seats every other night.


TS is doing it for the money. He isn't stupid. If he was doing it as a solo act he wouldn't even come near the numbers he is pulling down with Styx. Nothing wrong with it.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:58 am
by mr.v
So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:19 am
by styxfansite
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


If this with tommy is a hit, you may see the $$ light up in Jy's eyes, so then the question is, will Styx venture into the Country album arena? :D That would be strange to say the least.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:47 am
by brywool
Wow, not what I expected from Shaw. The song's pretty decent and the players are great, but man... it's so like the Country Bears Jamboree at Disneyland!

Good playing though, just not my bag baby. May be the first Shaw thing I don't pick up. Oh well. It's good, it's just not what I'm into.

Wish Shaw Blades would cut another album of ORIGINAL stuff.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:48 am
by yogi
Since Allan is the one playing in the Christopher Cross 'Tribute' band why isnt he chiming in on ole' Chris??

The only thing that I heard that was strange about him was that he demanded an 8 to 12 course meal after each show, and the meal had to consist of lots of fried items. 'Ride Like The Wind', 'Sailing', 'Theme From Arthur' all 'Classics'!!!

Is Allan the singer? What does he play in this band? Has anyone seen Allan perform?? I went out and purchased two Christopher Cross CD's after I read this about Allan.

If only Allan had played in a Rush 'Tribute' band I would have purchased Rush CD's instead.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:59 am
by Ash
Wow. I gotta say.... I kinda like it! I'll definitely download it when it comes out!!! (lol - kidding).

Seriously tho, I've always loved Tommy's work - even on Cyclorama (for the most part). Will be good to hear some of him on this.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:49 pm
by Boomchild
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:51 pm
by Born4adventure
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:07 pm
by Boomchild
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:42 pm
by Born4adventure
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:50 pm
by Boomchild
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


You make me laugh, he couldn't wrte a hit song to save his life and I'm not even going to get into his singing ability.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:00 pm
by Born4adventure
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


You make me laugh, he couldn't wrte a hit song to save his life and I'm not even going to get into his singing ability.


why are you so obsessed with something being a hit?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:48 am
by Everett
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


If it weren't for him tommy probably would've killed dennis during kilroy.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:09 am
by froy
"Born4adventure"

why are you so obsessed with something being a hit


Your right its better if the song sucks and that's Current Styx. Now I can see why you are a fan

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:00 am
by gr8dane
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


You make me laugh, he couldn't wrte a hit song to save his life and I'm not even going to get into his singing ability.


why are you so obsessed with something being a hit?


Because Dennis wrote all their hits.And Babe being their biggest hit thereby being their best song.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:50 am
by mr.v
WOW I'm really looking forward to "The Great Divide" CD!!!

Maybe now the tired old argument of who is better can go away for this thread - Am I the only one who gets tired of every thread being hijacked by the same people that have major one track minds? Maybe this is why I mainly lurk aroud here!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:06 pm
by Boomchild
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


You make me laugh, he couldn't wrte a hit song to save his life and I'm not even going to get into his singing ability.


why are you so obsessed with something being a hit?


Actually I'm not. JY has proven that he cannot write a song that will get airplay and chart. That is what sells albums which is one of the main reasons a band like Styx existed. That's just a reality of the business and not my personal bench mark for an artist I enjoy. TS and DDY were the ones that held the band together. It was their song writing and signing abilities that got the band where they were. JY is more like the third wheel. He mainly provided the hard edge guitar work to their sound that was a small part to what people liked about them.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:09 pm
by Boomchild
Everett wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


If it weren't for him tommy probably would've killed dennis during kilroy.


Doubt it. Tommy seemed to complain to others instead of the person he had an issue with. That and he would "self medicate" as he likes to call it.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:47 pm
by SuiteMadameBlue
Everett wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
Born4adventure wrote:
Boomchild wrote:
mr.v wrote:So here is a question. What happens if Tommy gets a hit off this project? With the recent move by many "rock" artists to release a country record or song (Kidd Rock, Darius Rucker, Robert Plant, just to name a few) the idea is not completly off the wall. Does STYX take a break for him to tour behind the record - Tommy on tour opening for a major country act would be appealing to a lot of booking agents, he could do the new bluegrass stuff and throw in a few of his STYX hits to fill out the set (not to mention the paycheck as the opener for a major country arena tour would probably match or be more than the current STYX paycheck).


I'm sure JY is hoping that he doesn't have a lot of success with this project. If he leaves the band to pursue more solo work, then it's curtains for JY.


ok first of all stop trying to make jy seem like some evil man trying to squeeze money out of dennis and tommy's hard work. Styx is a band, was a band, and will continue to be a band. They love playing and that's what they do.


I didn't say he squeezed money out of anyone. However, it's not hard to see that JY benefited from the efforts of TS and DDY being in the band. If you think that Styx would have become what it was without TS or DDY your crazy. JY has contributed some great guitar work but that didn't make Styx what it was. Without Tommy in Styx nobody would take them seriously.


JY is the glue that holds the band together


If it weren't for him tommy probably would've killed dennis during kilroy.


Please explain WHY Tommy probably would've killed Dennis during the Kilroy tour ? I can't wait to hear your reason why.