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Gonna Ask One More Time--Styx at the TEXXAS JAM 1983??????

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:01 am
by epresley
Does anyone have a copy of either/both the Dallas Cotton Bowl show and/or the Houston Astrodome show? At one time, a poster by the name of Styx Fan posted that they had the Houston show, but never answered my PM. If you have either or both of these shows, I'd be eternally appreciative!

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:37 am
by yogi
I was there(Dallas) but I have never heard a recording of either one of these.
Hope all is going well my friend,
Yogi

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:01 am
by Toph
yogi wrote:I was there(Dallas) but I have never heard a recording of either one of these.
Hope all is going well my friend,
Yogi
Was it as bad as they made it out to be on BTM?

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:04 am
by yogi
Not AT ALL. They were great and for the most part the crowd LOVED the show. All the booing was about the Texas Blue Laws which prohibits the sale of alcohol on Sundays.
Before Styx came out on stage they came over the PA and announced in accordance with Texas Ordinance 2666666( Blue Laws ) alcohol would no longer be sold. Well thye problem with that was it was still Saturday night and not Sunday. People were pissed. Add to this is was about 110 degrees that day. Most people had been there since 10 or 11 am the bathroom facilities were hoorendous etc....
The booing seen on the Behind The Music had NOTHING to do with Styx. The Concert was GREAT!!!
P.S. they did take far too long to start their show( almost 1 hour). That was the only complaint I heard about them
Re: Gonna Ask One More Time--Styx at the TEXXAS JAM 1983????

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:23 am
by Everett
epresley wrote:Does anyone have a copy of either/both the Dallas Cotton Bowl show and/or the Houston Astrodome show? At one time, a poster by the name of Styx Fan posted that they had the Houston show, but never answered my PM. If you have either or both of these shows, I'd be eternally appreciative!
Froy has some stuff but he won't share


Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:06 am
by yogi
Sure Froy has some stuff??????

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:06 am
by Rockwriter
yogi wrote:Not AT ALL. They were great and for the most part the crowd LOVED the show. All the booing was about the Texas Blue Laws which prohibits the sale of alcohol on Sundays.
Before Styx came out on stage they came over the PA and announced in accordance with Texas Ordinance 2666666( Blue Laws ) alcohol would no longer be sold. Well thye problem with that was it was still Saturday night and not Sunday. People were pissed. Add to this is was about 110 degrees that day. Most people had been there since 10 or 11 am the bathroom facilities were hoorendous etc....
The booing seen on the Behind The Music had NOTHING to do with Styx. The Concert was GREAT!!!
P.S. they did take far too long to start their show( almost 1 hour). That was the only complaint I heard about them
Not to mention the booing in that was edited in from the CITA video where the audience was booing Dr. Righteous, which was supposed to happen. They deliberately cut that in there knowing perfectly well it was out of context.
Sterling

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:24 am
by cittadeeno23
I went to several Kilroy shows in California and never heard anything close to a boo. The crowd left happy every time totally pumped up.
That VH1 show was bullshit. Plain and simple.

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:48 am
by Toph
cittadeeno23 wrote:I went to several Kilroy shows in California and never heard anything close to a boo. The crowd left happy every time totally pumped up.
That VH1 show was bullshit. Plain and simple.
I saw it in Orlando Labor Day weekend 1983. I'm pretty sure it was after Tommy had indicated to the band that he was gone after the tour, but you wouldn't have been able to tell at all. It was a great show and the crowd was really into it. In fact, there had been a big article in the Orlando Sentinel the day before - an interview with Chuck in which Chuck said that the band was shopping the Kilroy story to movie houses!!! They also talked about the satanic message controversy and Chuck said that it was all false - in fact that they were all a bunch of Catholic boys and that on Kilroy that there was actually a Christian backwards message (Annuit Coeptis..). Anyway, when JY went into his diatribe about backwards satanic messages, the crowd starting chanting (bullsh*t, bullsh*t!, bullsh*t!). This clearly got JY off his script and he stopped for a second and then yelled, "You're damn right it' bullsh*t!" Sort of a off the rehearsed path for a Styx concert....

Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:45 am
by Michigan Girl
yogi wrote:Not AT ALL. They were great and for the most part the crowd LOVED the show. All the booing was about the Texas Blue Laws which prohibits the sale of alcohol on Sundays.
Before Styx came out on stage they came over the PA and announced in accordance with Texas Ordinance 2666666( Blue Laws ) alcohol would no longer be sold. Well thye problem with that was it was still Saturday night and not Sunday. People were pissed. Add to this is was about 110 degrees that day. Most people had been there since 10 or 11 am the bathroom facilities were hoorendous etc....
The booing seen on the Behind The Music had NOTHING to do with Styx. The Concert was GREAT!!!
P.S. they did take far too long to start their show( almost 1 hour). That was the only complaint I heard about them
You sure would not know this from the BTM segment ...course, they probably cut something
very important out of Jim Cahill's diatribe
"They did not want to see robots in rubber suits and actors ...
it was depressing, it was heartreaking, maybe the worst Styx gig I've ever been to ... nope I take that back,
the next night in Houston was worse." :? I'm not a fan of Roboto, but I wish I had seen it, now!!!


Posted:
Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:51 am
by Everett
Michigan Girl wrote:yogi wrote:Not AT ALL. They were great and for the most part the crowd LOVED the show. All the booing was about the Texas Blue Laws which prohibits the sale of alcohol on Sundays.
Before Styx came out on stage they came over the PA and announced in accordance with Texas Ordinance 2666666( Blue Laws ) alcohol would no longer be sold. Well thye problem with that was it was still Saturday night and not Sunday. People were pissed. Add to this is was about 110 degrees that day. Most people had been there since 10 or 11 am the bathroom facilities were hoorendous etc....
The booing seen on the Behind The Music had NOTHING to do with Styx. The Concert was GREAT!!!
P.S. they did take far too long to start their show( almost 1 hour). That was the only complaint I heard about them
You sure would not know this from the BTM segment ...course, they probably cut something
very important out of Jim Cahill's diatribe
"They did not want to see robots in rubber suits and actors ...
it was depressing, it was heartreaking, maybe the worst Styx gig I've ever been to ... nope I take that back,
the next night in Houston was worst." :? I'm not a fan of Roboto, but I wish I had seen it, now!!!

Same here. If only i had been alive


Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:37 am
by yogi
Tommy also lied about what he said about the show in Dallas. Maybe it was taken out of context. Maybe Tommy thought those things were going to occur but thats not at all what happened when they took the stage. The booing that was shown on BTM had NOTHING to do with the actual Styx concert. Like someone stated maybe they were booing Dr. Rightous.
In Dallas at the jam, the riot almost started there when it was announced that alcohol sales were going to terminated immediately. This was done right before( 10-20 minutes) Styx was about to take the stage. The majority of the people at the Texas Jam LOVED the show.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:11 am
by Michigan Girl
yogi wrote:Tommy also lied about what he said about the show in Dallas. Maybe it was taken out of context. Maybe Tommy thought those things were going to occur but thats not at all what happened when they took the stage. The booing that was shown on BTM had NOTHING to do with the actual Styx concert. Like someone stated maybe they were booing Dr. Rightous.
In Dallas at the jam, the riot almost started there when it was announced that alcohol sales were going to terminated immediately. This was done right before( 10-20 minutes) Styx was about to take the stage. The majority of the people at the Texas Jam LOVED the show.
I gave Tommy
the benefit of the doubt ...his remark could've been about
anything
and placed accordingly, so as to fit w/the whole Roboto
slamfest!!!


Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:50 am
by jimmy19029
No boos at our show in Philly on Sept 25, 1983. I FELT like booing the soundman since the sound wasn't the greatest where we were sitting in the Spectrum. But the band was fine and the crowd was totally into it. In fact, other friends of mine, who were sitting closer, said the sound was just fine where they were.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:33 am
by froy
jimmy19029 wrote:No boos at our show in Philly on Sept 25, 1983. I FELT like booing the soundman since the sound wasn't the greatest where we were sitting in the Spectrum. But the band was fine and the crowd was totally into it. In fact, other friends of mine, who were sitting closer, said the sound was just fine where they were.
I saw the Roboto tour many times and loved all the shows, I remember no Lady at a few shows in the first leg which I thought was interesting,
Nobody was booing except when JY was yelling for the crowd to go back to your seats your all under arrest which was part of the show.
Just think if Shaw was not coked out the band would have gone on and did a follow up to Roboto but no he had to go and do What If instead.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:36 am
by yogi
Girls With Guns - What If was album #2 for Tommy.
Girls With Guns was actually a very good effort. I thought it was faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr better than Desert Moon.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:46 am
by brywool
yogi wrote:Girls With Guns - What If was album #2 for Tommy.
Girls With Guns was actually a very good effort. I thought it was faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr better than Desert Moon.
and FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR better than Kilroy Was Here.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:31 am
by froy
brywool wrote:yogi wrote:Girls With Guns - What If was album #2 for Tommy.
Girls With Guns was actually a very good effort. I thought it was faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr better than Desert Moon.
and FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR better than Kilroy Was Here.
Sorry guys wrong on all accounts GWG sucked Desert Moon was great especially Boys Will Be Boys,.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:32 am
by froy
yogi wrote:Girls With Guns - What If was album #2 for Tommy.
no kidding

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:35 am
by froy
brywool wrote:yogi wrote:Girls With Guns - What If was album #2 for Tommy.
Girls With Guns was actually a very good effort. I thought it was faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr better than Desert Moon.
and FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR better than Kilroy Was Here.
Let's see we have
Double Life
Just get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Don't Let It End
High Time
Name me the 5 songs that come close on GWG I just don't see it.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:25 am
by yogi
Come In And Explain - GREAT GREAT Hard rock song
Kiss Me Hello & Free To Love You are two of Tommy's better songs- Both are SOLID. I also like Lonely School. There is 4 very good songs off of Girls With Guns.
Girls With Guns, Outside In The Rain & The Race Is On are all OK
Girls With Guns was a solid effort.
As for Dont Let It End and High Time - Vomit City
I agree Double Life, Just Get Through This Night & Havent We Been Here Before are all solid. As is Heavy Metal Poisoning
So where is Denny on this album?? - Roboto - Never liked it
Tour yes album no. I didnt like this album because Dennis was my favorite member in the band. For me this album was horrendous for him. I didnt like a single one of his songs on this album. I like his reprise the best. That says it all.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:58 am
by froy
yogi wrote:Come In And Explain - GREAT GREAT Hard rock song
Kiss Me Hello & Free To Love You are two of Tommy's better songs- Both are SOLID. I also like Lonely School. There is 4 very good songs off of Girls With Guns.
Girls With Guns, Outside In The Rain & The Race Is On are all OK
Girls With Guns was a solid effort.
Bottom line Kiroy Was here is a better CD that GWG
This does not always have to be a Dennis thing,
The cd is great
Cold War is the only bad tune IMO

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:40 am
by yogi
Cold War is HORRIBLE!!
High Time is Horrible!!!
Dont Let It End is the worst ballad EVER!!! - Baby we could have sooo much more mooree morrrreeee ! Honey please dont walk out that door dooorre doooorrrreee. It is soooooobad its laughable--- It is PUTRID!!!
And as for Roboto if this would have been one of the first Styx song that I had heard I would have never become a fan.
For me Girls with Guns was better because Cold War, High Time, and Dont Let It End were all sooo bad!!
The concept and the tour was GREAT the album at least DDY's part of the album + Cold War was AWEFUL!!

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:18 am
by Toph
yogi wrote:Girls With Guns - What If was album #2 for Tommy.
Girls With Guns was actually a very good effort. I thought it was faaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr better than Desert Moon.
Clearly you are on the same thing Tommy was back then....

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:56 am
by froy
"yogi
And as for Roboto if this would have been one of the first Styx song that I had heard I would have never become a fan.
Really what was the first song you heard by Gowan with STYX that made you a fan?
GI ? Sail ? love to hear this answer.

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:32 am
by yogi
I am not a fan of Gowan, I am a fan of Styx.
Dennis is NOT Styx, Tommy is NOT Styx, Glen is NOT Styx, JY is not Styx, Gowan is not Styx, Todd is NOT Styx, Ricky is NOT Styx, Chuck is Not Styx, John C was NOT Styx, and John P. was NOT Styx
Styx is Styx. They are the SUM of their members. And currently Styx is Tommy, JY, Ricky, Gowan, Todd & sometimes Chuck. Its just like when Glen took over for Tommy I was still a Styx fan. I was a Styx fan before Tommy. Equinox is my favorite Styx album. Guess what NO Tommy Shaw. I loved Edge Of The Century ( album & tour ) guess what ? No Tommy Shaw.
Johan Santana was my favorite Twin. When the Twins traded him to the Mets I was still a Johan Santana fan but also more of a Minnesota Twin fan.
I feel the EXACT same way with Dennis and Styx. Do I wish he was back in Styx Hell yes. Do I wish Johan was back with the Twins Hell yes.
For me its the EXACT same thing with Styx.
Thats my answer Froy!

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:06 pm
by truck24000
now that brought back some really good memories !!!!!!!! I was there for that show "the texas jam"
Loved every bit of it as it will forever be etched into my lifelong memories!!!!

Posted:
Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:12 pm
by truck24000
yogi wrote:I am not a fan of Gowan, I am a fan of Styx.
Dennis is NOT Styx, Tommy is NOT Styx, Glen is NOT Styx, JY is not Styx, Gowan is not Styx, Todd is NOT Styx, Ricky is NOT Styx, Chuck is Not Styx, John C was NOT Styx, and John P. was NOT Styx
Styx is Styx. They are the SUM of their members. And currently Styx is Tommy, JY, Ricky, Gowan, Todd & sometimes Chuck. Its just like when Glen took over for Tommy I was still a Styx fan. I was a Styx fan before Tommy. Equinox is my favorite Styx album. Guess what NO Tommy Shaw. I loved Edge Of The Century ( album & tour ) guess what ? No Tommy Shaw.
I feel the EXACT same way with Dennis and Styx. Do I wish he was back in Styx Hell yes.
For me its the EXACT same thing with Styx.
Thats my answer Froy!
And i whole heartedly agree with everything you just said too!!!! i feel the same way!
Its the work and dedication of all past, present and future members that make up the band ..... not just STYX but all the bands out there fall under the same cat.

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:36 am
by sniper16
kilroy in cincinnati, was sold out, and one of the best shows ive seen, loved the production, pushed the envelope of concerts, glad they taped it and finally released the dvd

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:39 am
by sniper16
ps if there was booing at the texas jam, im sure it was because styx was not as heavy a band as the rest, and shouldnt havebeen on the bill not because of the production of the show