MR

I saw this video maybe once on MTV and never saw the first part - was that really part of the video?

Anyway, what a treasure to find! Very well done for a "movie" video.

http://www.dennisdeyoung.com/default.as ... jcjxeexnNw

That's great! I never saw that first part either!

It is great. EXCELLENT job Dennis 'Springsteen' DeYoung.

He & his think tank staff were still caught up in 'The Born In the USA' mode. Damn he should have come off that train at the beginning of his Desert Moon video with a piano on his back.

He would already be in the R&R Hall Of Fame if I was advising him!!!

I lovethe song "Desert Moon" simply beautiful

Beautiful song. Decent video. I still can't quite take the football scene with DDY and his "jock" friends..

yogi wrote:It is great. EXCELLENT job Dennis 'Springsteen' DeYoung.

He & his think tank staff were still caught up in 'The Born In the USA' mode. Damn he should have come off that train at the beginning of his Desert Moon video with a piano on his back.

He would already be in the R&R Hall Of Fame if I was advising him!!!

I tried to post the link to "This Is The Time". Did it link to Desert Moon? Seen Desert Moon many times, but I think I saw TITT once and NEVER saw that beginning part.

Thanks for posting this, Toph. I actually had not checked the link yet when I posted before. I had never seen the video for "This Is The Time", period. Sweet.

Back when VH1 Classic was a sort of fun trip down nostalgia lane, and would play requests, I got this one played by request, but it did NOT have that intro. I was wondering if, when it was originally shown on VH1 or MTV, they took out the intro as well.

It was nice that Dennis linked to it on his renewed website, since his was the one left off of his DVD video collection.

There are a few of us who rather like how Dennis looks in this one.

Bugsy

SWEET, I've never seen that one before. That is one of my favorite Dennis Solo songs - I've actually wore that whole album out when it was first released. The CD still gets alot of play in the old car CD player. Dennis just has that of the one-of-a-kind voice.

mr.v wrote:SWEET, I've never seen that one before. That is one of my favorite Dennis Solo songs - I've actually wore that whole album out when it was first released. The CD still gets alot of play in the old car CD player. Dennis just has that of the one-of-a-kind voice.

Yes Dennis have that one of a kind voice.But lets not forget ,so does Tommy ,JY and Gowan.
One of a kind.

gr8dane wrote:

mr.v wrote:SWEET, I've never seen that one before. That is one of my favorite Dennis Solo songs - I've actually wore that whole album out when it was first released. The CD still gets alot of play in the old car CD player. Dennis just has that of the one-of-a-kind voice.

Yes Dennis have that one of a kind voice.But lets not forget ,so does Tommy ,JY and Gowan.
One of a kind.

They are all great

Great video! The beginning is very funny.

On a side note, I have always hated this song, as well as the other single from this album, "Call Me." I always thought the singles from that album should have been "Black Wall" and "Unanswered Prayers." But what do I know?


Sterling

Rockwriter wrote:Great video! The beginning is very funny.

On a side note, I have always hated this song, as well as the other single from this album, "Call Me." I always thought the singles from that album should have been "Black Wall" and "Unanswered Prayers." But what do I know?


Sterling

"Unanswered Prayers" is one of my absolute favorites as well as "Black Wall," BTTW is my second favorite solo album....very close behind "Boomchild"

Rockwriter wrote:Great video! The beginning is very funny.

On a side note, I have always hated this song, as well as the other single from this album, "Call Me." I always thought the singles from that album should have been "Black Wall" and "Unanswered Prayers." But what do I know?


Sterling

Interesting comment Sterling. What are your issues with TITT and CM? Love Black Wall, my favorite from that album. It's pretty long so as a single I don't know if they would play it as is and I am not sure a cut down single version would give the same effect. UP is a OK song in my book. Just my opinion.

I agree with Sterling 100% about the singles. Unanswered Prayers is a GREAT GREAT song as is Black Wall. This is the Time would have been my choice for single #3. Warning Shot was decent also.

Call Me should have only been played at Insomniac Wards across the country. Better than anyfall asleep drug because this song is 100% non addictive as was proven when released as a single.

Rockwriter wrote:Great video! The beginning is very funny.

On a side note, I have always hated this song, as well as the other single from this album, "Call Me." I always thought the singles from that album should have been "Black Wall" and "Unanswered Prayers." But what do I know?


Sterling

You must know something because I completly agree with you! Black wall has always been my favorite cut from the record and Unanswered Prayers is pure Dennis. Both would have been great choices for singles.

Boomchild wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Great video! The beginning is very funny.

On a side note, I have always hated this song, as well as the other single from this album, "Call Me." I always thought the singles from that album should have been "Black Wall" and "Unanswered Prayers." But what do I know?


Sterling

Interesting comment Sterling. What are your issues with TITT and CM? Love Black Wall, my favorite from that album. It's pretty long so as a single I don't know if they would play it as is and I am not sure a cut down single version would give the same effect. UP is a OK song in my book. Just my opinion.

"This Is The Time" I just think is light and cheesy, just not that great of a song in my personal opinion. Not Dennis' best work. It's not the worst thing ever by any means (in fact "Person To Person" is far worse, in my opinion), but it's not a song I see as a lead single from a new project by an established artist.

"Call Me" has a great, strong chorus hook, but it takes way too long to get to it. There's so much exposition before you get to the point . . . I wish Dennis had found a way to get to the chorus and leave out the entire "But before I even read this letter . . ." part, because when it takes that turn into that progression and keeps on explaining and explaining, that's where it always loses me. I just have always felt that, from a pure radio perspective, it needs to get to "You can call me . . ." way sooner. That is, after all, the hook and the title of the song.

"Black Wall" could have had that entire outro solo shortened and just fade after the first chorus of "back to the world" for radio, wouldn't have made a lot of difference. You could edit the middle solo shorter, too. From a marketing perspective Vietnam-themed stuff was huge at the time, not to mention that the tag line at the end of the song is also the title of the album, which is always helpful.

"Unanswered Prayers" is a song I could just see a lot of people relating back to themselves, their own hopes and disappointments. That's what makes a song resonate with people, is the ability to see themselves in it. It's an interesting title and it hadn't been done at that time. Garth Brooks later had a huge career single with a song by the same name. Since he's a Styx fan, I've often wondered if he hadn't heard the Dennis song prior to that.


Sterling

black wall was my fave as well......my second fave was southbound ryan.

This is the Time has a more poppy sound, and that may have been why it was pushed out ahead of some of his stronger material on that album. And, of course, it had the tie in with the Karate Kid movie.

It took me awhile to appreciate Unanswered Prayers, but once I got hooked on it, it has become one of my fave DDY solo songs. The piano outro is gorgeous, too.

I liked ol' Garth's song with the same title, though both songs deal with really different subjects.

It is a shame some of DDY's solo work, besides Desert Moon, did not see a stronger push and a bit more popularity.

Call Me may have been a bad choice for a single, but that was a terrific video made for it. I suppose not many caught the references to the work of artist Edward Hopper, even though Dennis explained a bit about it in an MTV interview, but it was a really nice, moody bit of video making in my view.


Bugsy

bugsymalone wrote:This is the Time has a more poppy sound, and that may have been why it was pushed out ahead of some of his stronger material on that album. And, of course, it had the tie in with the Karate Kid movie.

It took me awhile to appreciate Unanswered Prayers, but once I got hooked on it, it has become one of my fave DDY solo songs. The piano outro is gorgeous, too.

I liked ol' Garth's song with the same title, though both songs deal with really different subjects.

It is a shame some of DDY's solo work, besides Desert Moon, did not see a stronger push and a bit more popularity.

Call Me may have been a bad choice for a single, but that was a terrific video made for it. I suppose not many caught the references to the work of artist Edward Hopper, even though Dennis explained a bit about it in an MTV interview, but it was a really nice, moody bit of video making in my view.


Bugsy

Overall I think Dennis was ahead of the pack in his early videos. I really liked the way he was trying to act and tell real stories, not just dance around or film himself miming the songs. "Desert Moon," "Don't Wait For Heroes" and "Call Me" are all good examples of that. I hope I'm not mis-recalling this, I think he worked with the same director on all three of those.

"Boomchild," on the other hand, I just watched the video for the first time in many years yesterday, and I can't say I think it's anywhere near as good.


Sterling

Boomchild wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Great video! The beginning is very funny.

On a side note, I have always hated this song, as well as the other single from this album, "Call Me." I always thought the singles from that album should have been "Black Wall" and "Unanswered Prayers." But what do I know?


Sterling

Interesting comment Sterling. What are your issues with TITT and CM? Love Black Wall, my favorite from that album. It's pretty long so as a single I don't know if they would play it as is and I am not sure a cut down single version would give the same effect. UP is a OK song in my book. Just my opinion.

I would agree. I don't see Black Wall as a Pop single. Maybe as a rock track. I was also disappointed with Call Me as the first single. When I heard it for the first time on the radio I literally thought to myself, "Well there goes his solo career". It just goes nowhere! It is plodding with no harmonies or interesting musical climaxes or anything of the sort. But I do think TITT should have been the first single (vs. the second) - I think it would have done pretty well if it had gotten some push from A&M (And as a first single, it might have), but by the time it was released the album had stiffed and A&M wasn't going to put any more $$ into it. Outside of that, I don't see Unanswered Prayers as a single - way too long instrumental at the end. Maybe Warning Shot? Person to Person? Let's face it, there just weren't a lot of single worthy tunes off Back To The World.

The first time I heard "Call Me" my thoughts were "when the hell is he going to get the band back together"????? I was really tired of the solo thing. Same with Tommy's solo albums. I love both Dennis and Tommy and would buy any album either of them put out solo-wise,
but they are both so much better working together than apart. That goes for some other people who went solo in the 80's also.
As much success as Phil Collins had on is own, his work in Genesis is WAY better than the sappy solo crap he put out on his own.
Same with Sting. WAY better in the Police than solo.

When I listen to GI and P08 and then listen to Girls with Guns and Desert Moon, it's painfully obvious how much better DDY and Tommy were together than apart.

gr8dane wrote:
Yes Dennis have that one of a kind voice.But lets not forget ,so does Gowan.

Im sure you have Gowan posters all over your room. Yea Gowan is one of a kind nobody on earth would want sing be like that

cittadeeno23 wrote:The first time I heard "Call Me" my thoughts were "when the hell is he going to get the band back together"????? I was really tired of the solo thing. Same with Tommy's solo albums. I love both Dennis and Tommy and would buy any album either of them put out solo-wise,
but they are both so much better working together than apart. That goes for some other people who went solo in the 80's also.
As much success as Phil Collins had on is own, his work in Genesis is WAY better than the sappy solo crap he put out on his own.
Same with Sting. WAY better in the Police than solo.

When I listen to GI and P08 and then listen to Girls with Guns and Desert Moon, it's painfully obvious how much better DDY and Tommy were together than apart.

EXACTLY. And that's why I just can't completely get into the current configuration. I tried making that same point previously, and I have since been cast as a Gowan hater. I'm not a hater. I'm just an extreme dis-liker.

I disagree with your Sting comment though. I think his solo work is 100x better than the POLICE. I can't stand that band together. Just never got it. I'd rather scrap wax off my ear drum with a bobby pin.

Rockwriter wrote:

bugsymalone wrote:This is the Time has a more poppy sound, and that may have been why it was pushed out ahead of some of his stronger material on that album. And, of course, it had the tie in with the Karate Kid movie.

It took me awhile to appreciate Unanswered Prayers, but once I got hooked on it, it has become one of my fave DDY solo songs. The piano outro is gorgeous, too.

I liked ol' Garth's song with the same title, though both songs deal with really different subjects.

It is a shame some of DDY's solo work, besides Desert Moon, did not see a stronger push and a bit more popularity.

Call Me may have been a bad choice for a single, but that was a terrific video made for it. I suppose not many caught the references to the work of artist Edward Hopper, even though Dennis explained a bit about it in an MTV interview, but it was a really nice, moody bit of video making in my view.


Bugsy

Overall I think Dennis was ahead of the pack in his early videos. I really liked the way he was trying to act and tell real stories, not just dance around or film himself miming the songs. "Desert Moon," "Don't Wait For Heroes" and "Call Me" are all good examples of that. I hope I'm not mis-recalling this, I think he worked with the same director on all three of those.

"Boomchild," on the other hand, I just watched the video for the first time in many years yesterday, and I can't say I think it's anywhere near as good.


Sterling

The DM, DWFH and CM were produced with director Jack Cole if memory serves me correctly.

Keiferb wrote:

cittadeeno23 wrote:The first time I heard "Call Me" my thoughts were "when the hell is he going to get the band back together"????? I was really tired of the solo thing. Same with Tommy's solo albums. I love both Dennis and Tommy and would buy any album either of them put out solo-wise,
but they are both so much better working together than apart. That goes for some other people who went solo in the 80's also.
As much success as Phil Collins had on is own, his work in Genesis is WAY better than the sappy solo crap he put out on his own.
Same with Sting. WAY better in the Police than solo.

When I listen to GI and P08 and then listen to Girls with Guns and Desert Moon, it's painfully obvious how much better DDY and Tommy were together than apart.

EXACTLY. And that's why I just can't completely get into the current configuration. I tried making that same point previously, and I have since been cast as a Gowan hater. I'm not a hater. I'm just an extreme dis-liker.

I disagree with your Sting comment though. I think his solo work is 100x better than the POLICE. I can't stand that band together. Just never got it. I'd rather scrap wax off my ear drum with a bobby pin.

I agree with you on Styx. For me it was the collaboration of TS, JY and DDY that made Styx what it was. Delete any of them from Styx and what you are left with is a weak imitation of what Styx was. There was a uniqueness that they had together that can't be reproduced solo or by replacements in Styx' line-up.

Not 100% true.

Equinox was Classic Styx, For me it was Styx at their BEST - No Tommy Shaw
Edge Of The Century was an EXCELLENT album - The tour was also very good - No Tommy Shaw
I also REALLY liked Cyclorama - No DDY

yogi wrote:Not 100% true.

Equinox was Classic Styx, For me it was Styx at their BEST - No Tommy Shaw
Edge Of The Century was an EXCELLENT album - The tour was also very good - No Tommy Shaw
I also REALLY liked Cyclorama - No DDY

Edge of the Century an excellent album? OMG you have to be joking! Back To Chicago? Carrie Ann? Homewrecker? Not Dead Yet? This was not the Styx I loved..was Dennis in solo mode with a non-Styx, dislike most anything Styx did, Glen B! On top of that, John P. was no where near the top of his game. Besides a few tunes, mostly wasted vinyl.

LOVED Edge!! Glen was GREAT, DDY had 3 EXCELLENT songs in Show Me The Way, Love At First Sight & Back To Chicago.

AWESOME CD!!!

Mr JY Roboto wrote:

yogi wrote:Not 100% true.

Equinox was Classic Styx, For me it was Styx at their BEST - No Tommy Shaw
Edge Of The Century was an EXCELLENT album - The tour was also very good - No Tommy Shaw
I also REALLY liked Cyclorama - No DDY

Edge of the Century an excellent album? OMG you have to be joking! Back To Chicago? Carrie Ann? Homewrecker? Not Dead Yet? This was not the Styx I loved..was Dennis in solo mode with a non-Styx, dislike most anything Styx did, Glen B! On top of that, John P. was no where near the top of his game. Besides a few tunes, mostly wasted vinyl.

OMG you hate a JY song? (BTW I like that song as well as Back to Chicago, and Show Me the way as well as Love Is the Ritual)