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WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:37 am
by yogi
What do you think would happen if Dennis called Tommy( you know that he has his phone number) said that he is sorry about the lawsuit stated everything is water under the bridge as far as he is concerned and then asked if he could get back in the band????

Dennis seems like the only one big enough to do this. It has been a long time since Brave New World & Behind The Music. You would think that common sense & forgiveness would set in by now.

Basically I am asking if Dennis wants back in and would ask Tommy to let him back in what would happen???? 1 Final album, 1 final tour, or impossible????????

Re: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:29 am
by Toph
yogi wrote:What do you think would happen if Dennis called Tommy( you know that he has his phone number) said that he is sorry about the lawsuit stated everything is water under the bridge as far as he is concerned and then asked if he could get back in the band????

Dennis seems like the only one big enough to do this. It has been a long time since Brave New World & Behind The Music. You would think that common sense & forgiveness would set in by now.

Basically I am asking if Dennis wants back in and would ask Tommy to let him back in what would happen???? 1 Final album, 1 final tour, or impossible????????


I don't think Tommy is the problem....its the other dude....you know, the one that didn't write any hit records, but yet is in charge of everything?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:34 am
by yogi
Tommy could make JY change his mind. Styx without Dennis & Tommy is 100% no longer Styx.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:35 am
by cittadeeno23
I think Tommy and Chuck might be willing to do it but I seriously would be in shock if JY agreed. I think now is the time, though if this is ever going to happen because they do not have a lot of time left. The problem is that Dennis is NOT going to call Tommy anytime soon. Or Vice- Versa.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:16 am
by Archetype
If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:31 am
by Everett
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:55 am
by Archetype
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:11 am
by gr8dane
Archetype wrote:
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band


If you say so,it must be right.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:55 am
by Everett
gr8dane wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band


If you say so,it must be right.


I agree. Quit drinking the koolaid arch. While denny's band is awesome they don't hold a candle to styx.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:56 am
by Babyblue
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable



I have to agree

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:34 am
by Toph
Everett wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band


If you say so,it must be right.


I agree. Quit drinking the koolaid arch. While denny's band is awesome they don't hold a candle to styx.


Glen should have kicked you ass.

Dennis' Styx vs. Tommy's Styx.....

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:06 am
by cittadeeno23
Well, since you guys brought up which band is better,
I'm going to see Dennis' band on Saturday for the first time since 2006 and obviously for the first time with the new band members.
I will decide then if they do or do not sound more like Styx than the band currently calling themselves Styx.
I am unable to stomach Larry singing Dennis' Songs. Now I'm going to find out if I can stomach someone else singing Tommy's songs!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:54 am
by Everett
Toph wrote:
Everett wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band


If you say so,it must be right.


I agree. Quit drinking the koolaid arch. While denny's band is awesome they don't hold a candle to styx.


Glen should have kicked you ass.


Why don't you grow a pair and come back with some new shit. Damn you are a fuckin pussy.
Watch i bet you don't reply.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:17 am
by Don
I think it would play out just like what happened to Lou Gramm and Mick Jones a few months back.
They would be hint that it might be a cool idea but then management and legal teams would get involved and that would be that.

Re: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:25 pm
by ChicagoSTYX
yogi wrote:What do you think would happen if Dennis called Tommy( you know that he has his phone number) said that he is sorry about the lawsuit stated everything is water under the bridge as far as he is concerned and then asked if he could get back in the band????

Dennis seems like the only one big enough to do this. It has been a long time since Brave New World & Behind The Music. You would think that common sense & forgiveness would set in by now.

Basically I am asking if Dennis wants back in and would ask Tommy to let him back in what would happen???? 1 Final album, 1 final tour, or impossible????????


Maybe...... But time is running out! Not just for Styx but for must of the bands we grew up with. How many of those bands will be around 5 to 10 years from now???

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:46 pm
by Mr JY Roboto
Archetype wrote:
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band
What a sophmoronic post. My guys are better that your guys...wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Who gives a flying fu*k! Go see Dennis and masturbate over his band then.

Re: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:46 pm
by Baron Von Bielski
yogi wrote:What do you think would happen if Dennis called Tommy( you know that he has his phone number) said that he is sorry about the lawsuit stated everything is water under the bridge as far as he is concerned and then asked if he could get back in the band????

Dennis seems like the only one big enough to do this. It has been a long time since Brave New World & Behind The Music. You would think that common sense & forgiveness would set in by now.

Basically I am asking if Dennis wants back in and would ask Tommy to let him back in what would happen???? 1 Final album, 1 final tour, or impossible????????


Like said in other posts, I think it's JY that has to be convinced. Apparently he enjoys playing in theatres and smaller outdoor venues rather than arenas. And I believe it'd take Tommy to call DDY in order for that to happen. On the record, I hope it happens.

Re: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:03 pm
by Boomchild
yogi wrote:What do you think would happen if Dennis called Tommy( you know that he has his phone number) said that he is sorry about the lawsuit stated everything is water under the bridge as far as he is concerned and then asked if he could get back in the band????

Dennis seems like the only one big enough to do this. It has been a long time since Brave New World & Behind The Music. You would think that common sense & forgiveness would set in by now.

Basically I am asking if Dennis wants back in and would ask Tommy to let him back in what would happen???? 1 Final album, 1 final tour, or impossible????????


I don't think that that Dennis is going to be the one to make the first move. Since the split, he has stated many times that it is not up to him. It seems that he feels that it is a slim chance that it will happen. I think it would take a situation where they would bump into each other unexpectedly.

Re: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:06 pm
by Boomchild
Toph wrote:
yogi wrote:What do you think would happen if Dennis called Tommy( you know that he has his phone number) said that he is sorry about the lawsuit stated everything is water under the bridge as far as he is concerned and then asked if he could get back in the band????

Dennis seems like the only one big enough to do this. It has been a long time since Brave New World & Behind The Music. You would think that common sense & forgiveness would set in by now.

Basically I am asking if Dennis wants back in and would ask Tommy to let him back in what would happen???? 1 Final album, 1 final tour, or impossible????????


I don't think Tommy is the problem....its the other dude....you know, the one that didn't write any hit records, but yet is in charge of everything?


Yeah, that other dude, the tall blonde guy. What's his name? 8)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:12 pm
by Boomchild
Everett wrote:
gr8dane wrote:
Archetype wrote:
Everett wrote:
Archetype wrote:If Tommy and Chuck were willing to do it, but JY continued to be obstinate and grudge-holding, DDY, Tommy and Chuck could go on tour with Jimmy Leahy in JY's place and put on a fantastic show. I see the whole situation as purely hypothetical though because Dennis is really happy where he is, and has an absolute all-star band. Arguably better than JY/Tommy Styx.


That is HIGHLY debatable


Leahy and Zadra wipe the floor with Shaw/JY as far as raw playing ability goes.
Tom Sharpe is an outstanding, versatile drummer (listen to his "Like setting Myself on Fire" album)
Tom Sharpe is also arguably a better pianist than Dennis or Lawrence
Craig and Ricky are about on par with each other. But Craig has a much better high-range backing vocals voice
John Blasucci can play everything that Lawrence/Dennis can play, and has quite a resume working with big name artists (Celine Dion, NSync, etc))

Dennis's band




If you say so,it must be right.


I agree. Quit drinking the koolaid arch. While denny's band is awesome they don't hold a candle to styx.


Neither band can hold a candle to what Styx was. It was the collaboration of DDY, TS and JY that made Styx special and was the band at it's best. Anything other then that it just second rate. Both bands can try to be as good but without those three working together it's just a substitute for the real deal. Just my .02

"Neither band can hold a candle to what Styx was"

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:37 am
by cittadeeno23
Great post, well said, and 100 percent absolutely true. Without those 3 working together it's just a substitute for the real deal. And I know all 3 of them realize that.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:57 am
by styxfanNH
The phone calls boith ways. Someone is going to need to make the first move. Waiting for the other to bend and ask for forgiveness means it will never happen.

Tommy has said that he can't imagine getting back with Dennis without Larry involved in some way. Chuck has said he hopes it happens before there is one less living member.

Every day is a wasted day.

Can't see it happening. Everyone is to proud.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:57 am
by cittadeeno23
It's not ever going to happen. We need to let it go. Treasure your Return to Paradise DVD's. I've got 2 copies in case one breaks!!

I saw that show live several times back in 1996. The first time I heard Dennis say "did you ever think you were going to see these bums together again" I cried like a 12 year old school girl! I was in the 3rd row and Dennis, Tommy, JY and Chuck were standing right in front of me with their arms around each other. I was positive I was never going to see that again in my life, so when he said that I just lost it!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:22 pm
by StyxCollector
Not going to happen, folks. Would Dennis do it for a one off or something given the opportunity? A few years ago I would have said yes but I think that door is truly closed now. He's made peace with his past and moved on from Styx. He's happy doing what he's doing.

And for the Styx vs. Dennis band argument, go see both bands and make up your own mind. But it's not necessary to slag one if you haven't spent the time to see both - a YouTube video is no point of reference.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:27 pm
by Baron Von Bielski
cittadeeno23 wrote:It's not ever going to happen. We need to let it go. Treasure your Return to Paradise DVD's. I've got 2 copies in case one breaks!!!


It's so tough to let it go. I have my Caught in the Act and Return to Paradise DVD's and it makes me want it more. I have my DDY playing the Music of Styx with a symphony orchestra and Styx's CYO DVD's and it makes me really want it more. It sucks knowing it'll never happen.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:48 pm
by Boomchild
StyxCollector wrote:Not going to happen, folks. Would Dennis do it for a one off or something given the opportunity? A few years ago I would have said yes but I think that door is truly closed now. He's made peace with his past and moved on from Styx. He's happy doing what he's doing.

And for the Styx vs. Dennis band argument, go see both bands and make up your own mind. But it's not necessary to slag one if you haven't spent the time to see both - a YouTube video is no point of reference.


Personally, I feel when dealing with people it's hard to say what will happen. People's minds do change for many reasons. So to say it will never happen I think is taking a "black and white" approach to the situation. I never thought they would regroup with the original line up after '84 and then the '96 reunion happened. I think it's safe to say that most Styx fans never saw that coming. Only those directly involved really know what is possible.

Re: "Neither band can hold a candle to what Styx was&qu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:54 pm
by Boomchild
cittadeeno23 wrote:Great post, well said, and 100 percent absolutely true. Without those 3 working together it's just a substitute for the real deal. And I know all 3 of them realize that.


The sad fact is that they can't put the petty issues behind them and do it for the love of the music and sharing that magic they had together. It's a shame that when you become as successful as Styx was egos and petty personal issues get in the way of the music.

Re: "Neither band can hold a candle to what Styx was&am

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:23 pm
by StyxCollector
Boomchild wrote:
cittadeeno23 wrote:Great post, well said, and 100 percent absolutely true. Without those 3 working together it's just a substitute for the real deal. And I know all 3 of them realize that.


The sad fact is that they can't put the petty issues behind them and do it for the love of the music and sharing that magic they had together. It's a shame that when you become as successful as Styx was egos and petty personal issues get in the way of the music.


They're all much older. There's a lot of history. There is no way to just sweep all of that under the rug. You don't have as nasty and public a separation that was 1998 - 2000 and have them be best buds. And the magic you reference sailed away arguably after PT since KWH was not a fun experience for all involved. Some may even say the magic died after Pieces of Eight.

Outside of Rush, most bands have this issue. The difference with bands like Aerosmith and the Stones is that it's apparent they really don't like each other much (see: Joe Perry/Steven Tyler and Mick Jagger/Keith Richards). They did at one point. But the money is too great for them all not to keep the business of Aerosmith or the Stones going.

I applaud some folks for keeping the torch lit, but it's really just a fantasy. I don't get the "they should just do it for the love of the music". They're doing that ... albeit separately.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:27 pm
by StyxCollector
Boomchild wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:Not going to happen, folks. Would Dennis do it for a one off or something given the opportunity? A few years ago I would have said yes but I think that door is truly closed now. He's made peace with his past and moved on from Styx. He's happy doing what he's doing.

And for the Styx vs. Dennis band argument, go see both bands and make up your own mind. But it's not necessary to slag one if you haven't spent the time to see both - a YouTube video is no point of reference.


Personally, I feel when dealing with people it's hard to say what will happen. People's minds do change for many reasons. So to say it will never happen I think is taking a "black and white" approach to the situation. I never thought they would regroup with the original line up after '84 and then the '96 reunion happened. I think it's safe to say that most Styx fans never saw that coming. Only those directly involved really know what is possible.


I think we have enough history and experience with this band to be pretty sure. Could it happen? Anything is possible. If I was a betting man, those odds are pretty low.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:34 pm
by yogi
NONE of us know what the other guy is thinking. Who knows what the key players( Dennis & Tommy) are truly thinking about Styx and a possible one last time.


Riddle me this what famous person was thinking this?? " Why wont he just let me hit?? Potato Chips mmmmm........"