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STYX - Newkirk, OK 02/12/2011 setlist

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:01 pm
by dabstudio
First Council Casino
Newkirk, Oklahoma USA


Blue Collar Man (Long Nights)
The Grand Illusion
Too Much Time on My Hands
Lady
Lorelei
Man in the Wilderness
I’m OK
Crystal Ball
Castle Walls
Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)
Miss America
Come Sail Away
ENCORES:
I am the Walrus
Renegade

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:10 pm
by Baron Von Bielski
I really wish they'd start with Rockin' The Paradise then go right into Blue Collar Man. I think it works better that way... it always did in the past. BCM just doesn't strike me as a good opener. Also, last year when they opened with a sort of Borrowed Time medley followed with The Grand Illusion it worked as well. Great setlist though, I'm glad they kept Man in The Wilderness, Castle Walls and I'm O.K. Though it's not the same without DDY at the helm. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Gowan basher... but I am pro DDY being in Styx.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:15 pm
by Everett
I wish they would trade im ok for queen of spades. I like im ok but queen of spades is a better tune imo. I am the walrus as an encore wtf?????

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:23 pm
by Baron Von Bielski
Everett wrote:I wish they would trade im ok for queen of spades. I like im ok but queen of spades is a better tune imo. I am the walrus as an encore wtf?????


I agree. I do not wanna hear that song. Pick another.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:03 pm
by Boomchild
Baron Von Bielski wrote:I really wish they'd start with Rockin' The Paradise then go right into Blue Collar Man. I think it works better that way... it always did in the past. BCM just doesn't strike me as a good opener. Also, last year when they opened with a sort of Borrowed Time medley followed with The Grand Illusion it worked as well. Great setlist though, I'm glad they kept Man in The Wilderness, Castle Walls and I'm O.K. Though it's not the same without DDY at the helm. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Gowan basher... but I am pro DDY being in Styx.


Doubt you will ever see Rockin' the Paradise in a Styx set list as long as Gowan is in Styx. Early on they did include it but it's a song that just didn't seem to suit Gowan. I think he does it on the Arch Allies DVD and it made me cringe.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:27 am
by Archetype
Everett wrote:I wish they would trade im ok for queen of spades. I like im ok but queen of spades is a better tune imo. I am the walrus as an encore wtf?????


I'm OK is a more "fun" live song, but yes queen Of spades is better. But I think they do I'm OK because the audience can get into it more. They need to never play Walrus again. I cringe every time they play it. Let him sing Strange Animal in its place.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:06 am
by masque
that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.

Re: STYX - Newkirk, OK 02/12/2011 setlist

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:06 am
by Toph
dabstudio wrote:First Council Casino
Newkirk, Oklahoma USA


Blue Collar Man (Long Nights)
The Grand Illusion
Too Much Time on My Hands
Lady
Lorelei
Man in the Wilderness
I’m OK
Crystal Ball
Castle Walls
Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)
Miss America
Come Sail Away
ENCORES:
I am the Walrus
Renegade


Beyond TMTOMH, nothing representative of the back half of their career. Missed opportunity IMO.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:07 am
by Archetype
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.


Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx and not hurt financially, so it would make sense that they keep him happy. He bails, it would be the final nail in the Styx coffin. They either reconcile with Dennis or retire.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:18 am
by froy
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist"..


The happier he is the more I stay away. Be happy Larry you have ruined STYX thanks

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:19 am
by StyxCollector
Archetype wrote:
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.


Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx and not hurt financially, so it would make sense that they keep him happy. He bails, it would be the final nail in the Styx coffin. They either reconcile with Dennis or retire.


Disagree a bit. Ricky and Todd would be just fine, as they always have been. Just look at Ricky's resume, and Todd is in demand. LG would have continued success in Canada. Tommy would be fine as well and figure something out to do (solo project, Shaw Blades, another band a la Damn Yankees). It's JY and Chuck who would be left in the cold.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:20 am
by froy
Archetype"
Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx


Let's hope he leaves and fast, He can't sell a ticket anywhere in the USA 0 I guess Shaw can't either and JY forget it
That is why they ripped off the name STYX without it there are all 0's

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:43 am
by Baron Von Bielski
StyxCollector wrote:
Archetype wrote:
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.


Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx and not hurt financially, so it would make sense that they keep him happy. He bails, it would be the final nail in the Styx coffin. They either reconcile with Dennis or retire.


Disagree a bit. Ricky and Todd would be just fine, as they always have been. Just look at Ricky's resume, and Todd is in demand. LG would have continued success in Canada. Tommy would be fine as well and figure something out to do (solo project, Shaw Blades, another band a la Damn Yankees). It's JY and Chuck who would be left in the cold.


I completely agree with this statement.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:53 am
by Mr JY Roboto
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.
I would rather hear non-hits at this point and if LG has to sing a few, fine by me. The hits I've heard countless times and can do without some of them for awhile.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:49 am
by Keiferb
Boomchild wrote:
Baron Von Bielski wrote:I really wish they'd start with Rockin' The Paradise then go right into Blue Collar Man. I think it works better that way... it always did in the past. BCM just doesn't strike me as a good opener. Also, last year when they opened with a sort of Borrowed Time medley followed with The Grand Illusion it worked as well. Great setlist though, I'm glad they kept Man in The Wilderness, Castle Walls and I'm O.K. Though it's not the same without DDY at the helm. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Gowan basher... but I am pro DDY being in Styx.


Doubt you will ever see Rockin' the Paradise in a Styx set list as long as Gowan is in Styx. Early on they did include it but it's a song that just didn't seem to suit Gowan. I think he does it on the Arch Allies DVD and it made me cringe.


There isn't one Styx song that suits Gowan.

Re: STYX - Newkirk, OK 02/12/2011 setlist

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:37 am
by Babyblue
dabstudio wrote:First Council Casino
Newkirk, Oklahoma USA


Blue Collar Man (Long Nights)
The Grand Illusion
Too Much Time on My Hands
Lady
Lorelei
Man in the Wilderness
I’m OK
Crystal Ball
Castle Walls
Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)
Miss America
Come Sail Away
ENCORES:
I am the Walrus
Renegade


Thanks, for sharing this.Well they will be back in Biloxi,Ms 11-11-11 On a Fri nite i am so going to see them.WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :D

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:37 am
by Rockwriter
StyxCollector wrote:
Archetype wrote:
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.


Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx and not hurt financially, so it would make sense that they keep him happy. He bails, it would be the final nail in the Styx coffin. They either reconcile with Dennis or retire.


Disagree a bit. Ricky and Todd would be just fine, as they always have been. Just look at Ricky's resume, and Todd is in demand. LG would have continued success in Canada. Tommy would be fine as well and figure something out to do (solo project, Shaw Blades, another band a la Damn Yankees). It's JY and Chuck who would be left in the cold.


I don't mean to be a jerk for saying this, but seriously, if Gowan left and the band replaced him with someone strong, it would probably make no difference to the bottom line draw of Styx. He bails and they keep Tommy, they can get a YouTube guy and roll on down the road. Hell, if you can replace a founding member who wrote and sang most of your hits, you can certainly replace his replacement, LOL.

That's not a knock to Gowan, whom I like. It's just the obvious truth. Now if Tommy left, on the other hand . . . then we've got a big problem.

Sterling

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:42 pm
by Baron Von Bielski
Rockwriter wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Archetype wrote:
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.


Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx and not hurt financially, so it would make sense that they keep him happy. He bails, it would be the final nail in the Styx coffin. They either reconcile with Dennis or retire.


Disagree a bit. Ricky and Todd would be just fine, as they always have been. Just look at Ricky's resume, and Todd is in demand. LG would have continued success in Canada. Tommy would be fine as well and figure something out to do (solo project, Shaw Blades, another band a la Damn Yankees). It's JY and Chuck who would be left in the cold.


I don't mean to be a jerk for saying this, but seriously, if Gowan left and the band replaced him with someone strong, it would probably make no difference to the bottom line draw of Styx. He bails and they keep Tommy, they can get a YouTube guy and roll on down the road. Hell, if you can replace a founding member who wrote and sang most of your hits, you can certainly replace his replacement, LOL.

That's not a knock to Gowan, whom I like. It's just the obvious truth. Now if Tommy left, on the other hand . . . then we've got a big problem.

Sterling


True statement. Losing Tommy would be the death of the band because that would really leave only JY. If Dennis were in the band and they lost either Tommy or JY they could survive as evident during Edge of the Century.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:51 pm
by Boomchild
Rockwriter wrote:
StyxCollector wrote:
Archetype wrote:
masque wrote:that almost looks like a "let's keep LG happy setlist".....they did 14 tunes with LG singing six tunes, tommy singing six tunes and JY doing two. surprised to see it that loaded with tunes for LG to sing.


Of the six members of Styx, Lawrence has the best prospects for success outside of Styx. He can probably take Styx or leave Styx and not hurt financially, so it would make sense that they keep him happy. He bails, it would be the final nail in the Styx coffin. They either reconcile with Dennis or retire.


Disagree a bit. Ricky and Todd would be just fine, as they always have been. Just look at Ricky's resume, and Todd is in demand. LG would have continued success in Canada. Tommy would be fine as well and figure something out to do (solo project, Shaw Blades, another band a la Damn Yankees). It's JY and Chuck who would be left in the cold.


I don't mean to be a jerk for saying this, but seriously, if Gowan left and the band replaced him with someone strong, it would probably make no difference to the bottom line draw of Styx. He bails and they keep Tommy, they can get a YouTube guy and roll on down the road. Hell, if you can replace a founding member who wrote and sang most of your hits, you can certainly replace his replacement, LOL.

That's not a knock to Gowan, whom I like. It's just the obvious truth. Now if Tommy left, on the other hand . . . then we've got a big problem.

Sterling


They seem to be in that zone like the oldies groups from the '50s and 60s. The band would not have one original member and the general fan would still see them just because the bill says Styx.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:42 pm
by FormerDJMike
I don't know, I remember Bad Company touring in the 90's with Simon Kirke, the drummer, as the ONLY original member. They still put on a good show. From some reason Mick Ralphs was off that tour but still in the band. I remember people commenting at that show "It's like Steve Smith touring as Journey".

PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:23 pm
by Boomchild
FormerDJMike wrote:I don't know, I remember Bad Company touring in the 90's with Simon Kirke, the drummer, as the ONLY original member. They still put on a good show. From some reason Mick Ralphs was off that tour but still in the band. I remember people commenting at that show "It's like Steve Smith touring as Journey".


I'm sure that bands that do not have any of the original members put on a good show. But, it's usually not like the original real deal. You come away with the impression that something is missing. Styx still puts on a "professional" show even higher production value then DDy's shows. However, it does nothing for me. IMHO what was great about Styx was lost when the classic line up fell apart for what seems like the last time.