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Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

I will purchase these!

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

Is this the same company that released the cyo?

Awesome! Looking forward to the GI/Po8 DVD. Saw that show twice last year, and it was amazing. Hope the DVD is just as good!

Everett wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

Is this the same company that released the cyo?

Yes.

Cassie May wrote:Awesome! Looking forward to the GI/Po8 DVD. Saw that show twice last year, and it was amazing. Hope the DVD is just as good!

I can't wait to get the DVD/CD it is going to be awsome

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

Monker wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

As I said back when so many were saying he would not let this be released, why not let Styx release this...as long as Dennis has the freedom to release a DVD of his current band performing Tommy's Styx songs? I think it's a fair trade.

If you think he doesn't care, you obviously did not read his Rolling Stone interview which clearly DOES show he still cares.

Monker wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote: So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

As I said back when so many were saying he would not let this be released, why not let Styx release this...as long as Dennis has the freedom to release a DVD of his current band performing Tommy's Styx songs? I think it's a fair trade.

If you think he doesn't care, you obviously did not read his Rolling Stone interview which clearly DOES show he still cares.

I meant that he doesn't care if they release these rehashes, he will always care about the band but has his own gig and someone else to sing Tommy's part.......just like Styx who has someone to sing his parts (sometimes)

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote: So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

As I said back when so many were saying he would not let this be released, why not let Styx release this...as long as Dennis has the freedom to release a DVD of his current band performing Tommy's Styx songs? I think it's a fair trade.

If you think he doesn't care, you obviously did not read his Rolling Stone interview which clearly DOES show he still cares.

I meant that he doesn't care if they release these rehashes, he will always care about the band but has his own gig and someone else to sing Tommy's part.......just like Styx who has someone to sing his parts (sometimes)

I think it would be more accurate to say: just like Styx who has someone TRYING to sing his parts. (That is, if you can call that singing)

Boomchild wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote: So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

As I said back when so many were saying he would not let this be released, why not let Styx release this...as long as Dennis has the freedom to release a DVD of his current band performing Tommy's Styx songs? I think it's a fair trade.

If you think he doesn't care, you obviously did not read his Rolling Stone interview which clearly DOES show he still cares.

I meant that he doesn't care if they release these rehashes, he will always care about the band but has his own gig and someone else to sing Tommy's part.......just like Styx who has someone to sing his parts (sometimes)

I think it would be more accurate to say: just like Styx who has someone TRYING to sing his parts. (That is, if you can call that singing)

Oh yes LG, can sing the songs just fine for all the Styx fans.That is the ones that love this Styx. And i an not the only one that loves this band with LG. We could careless if you can't stand LG.

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote: So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

As I said back when so many were saying he would not let this be released, why not let Styx release this...as long as Dennis has the freedom to release a DVD of his current band performing Tommy's Styx songs? I think it's a fair trade.

If you think he doesn't care, you obviously did not read his Rolling Stone interview which clearly DOES show he still cares.

I meant that he doesn't care if they release these rehashes, he will always care about the band but has his own gig and someone else to sing Tommy's part.......just like Styx who has someone to sing his parts (sometimes)

I'm not talking about the "rehashes" on CD...Dennis can't do anything about that even if he did want to.

I'm talking about the DVD. You guys have short term memory if you don't remember the threads where it was said - repeatedly - that Dennis would never let that DVD be released. This forum took the iidea and tossed it away as impossible.

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So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

My impression is that they reached a deal. I don't know the details of it.

I agree, it would make business sense to simply trade permissions and let Dennis do a DVD of his current band. That's actually something I'd like to see happen.

Sterling

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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That will be a nice write off, They must need a loser to balance there sheets, They can't make any money off of this idea, 3000 units at best
Good Luck

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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No offense Sterling but how can you even think of writing this?

Seventies superstar rock group Styx announced today

Are they greasing you now as well?

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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No offense Sterling but how can you even think of writing this?

Seventies superstar rock group Styx announced today

Are they greasing you now as well?

I think that comment is unfair to Sterling. I think he is just reporting on the deal. In my opinion his reporting has been fair to both sides.

Babyblue wrote:

Boomchild wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

Monker wrote: So much for DDY not allowing the DVD to be released.

I doubt at this point that DDY even cares

As I said back when so many were saying he would not let this be released, why not let Styx release this...as long as Dennis has the freedom to release a DVD of his current band performing Tommy's Styx songs? I think it's a fair trade.

If you think he doesn't care, you obviously did not read his Rolling Stone interview which clearly DOES show he still cares.

I meant that he doesn't care if they release these rehashes, he will always care about the band but has his own gig and someone else to sing Tommy's part.......just like Styx who has someone to sing his parts (sometimes)

I think it would be more accurate to say: just like Styx who has someone TRYING to sing his parts. (That is, if you can call that singing)

Oh yes LG, can sing the songs just fine for all the Styx fans.That is the ones that love this Styx. And i an not the only one that loves this band with LG. We could careless if you can't stand LG.

He can sing Styx material well? That's a laugh, then why have they been avoiding popular DDY material from Paradise Theater then? To me he barley makes it on the stuff he does sing (if you can call it that). It would be more accurate to say "The ones that love THIS version of the band calling themselves Styx". I never said I can't stand Larry Gowan as a person, I just don't care for his "covers" of Dennis DeYoung's material.

Maybe the legal agreement was not open ended and after a specific date they could release what they want.

Boomchild wrote:

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

No offense Sterling but how can you even think of writing this?

Seventies superstar rock group Styx announced today

Are they greasing you now as well?

I think that comment is unfair to Sterling. I think he is just reporting on the deal. In my opinion his reporting has been fair to both sides.

His reporting is fine. But the fact is it's not the Seventies superstar rock group Styx. Not even close Very misleading statement

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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That will be a nice write off, They must need a loser to balance there sheets, They can't make any money off of this idea, 3000 units at best
Good Luck

Well, I don't suppose Eagle Rock would have agreed to distribute this if the band hadn't been able to demonstrate some reasonable indy sales. They wouldn't knowingly invest in a thing that was apt to lose money. And since the band paid for this to be done and their indy sales have probably already earned that back, it's not unlikely that Eagle Rock has no downside risk here. They are probably just distributing and publicizing but have no financial investment and are splitting profit with the band.

The GI/Po8 thing is likely to sell reasonably well, especially as timed to coincide with Christmas. Eagle Rock must have done well enough with the CYO thing to think it's worth it or they wouldn't be doing it.


Sterling

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe the legal agreement was not open ended and after a specific date they could release what they want.

That's plausible too

froy wrote:

Boomchild wrote:

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

No offense Sterling but how can you even think of writing this?

Seventies superstar rock group Styx announced today

Are they greasing you now as well?

I think that comment is unfair to Sterling. I think he is just reporting on the deal. In my opinion his reporting has been fair to both sides.

His reporting is fine. But the fact is it's not the Seventies superstar rock group Styx. Not even close Very misleading statement

Styx was a superstar rock act in the Seventies and the band still exists and still owns the name. To the average reader it is "the Seventies superstar rock roup Styx." Taking issue with that is a matter of meaningless semantics. The band is still legally and actually Styx and the member changes don't change that. Those of us who report on these things can't choose our words based on the perceived needs of a tiny little fringe element of our readership.

Besides which, you evidently missed the entire rest of the article, which goes on to explain that these are re-recordings with a new lineup, LOL.

You need a better hobby!

Sterling

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe the legal agreement was not open ended and after a specific date they could release what they want.

That's plausible too

That would be plausible, but I don't think it's fact. My impression is that some permissions had to be given. I also got the distinct impression it wasn't a very cordial experience. But then again, I would have expected nothing else.


Sterling

Boomchild wrote:

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

No offense Sterling but how can you even think of writing this?

Seventies superstar rock group Styx announced today

Are they greasing you now as well?

I think that comment is unfair to Sterling. I think he is just reporting on the deal. In my opinion his reporting has been fair to both sides.

I agree, c'mon Froy... he's just spreading the news. Seventies superstar rock group is past tense, they aren't THAT band anymore.

"Rockwriter" Eagle Rock must have done well enough with the CYO thing to think it's worth it or they wouldn't be doing it.

Under 8000 copies to be exact If my memory is correct

Rockwriter wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe the legal agreement was not open ended and after a specific date they could release what they want.

H


That's plausible too

That would be plausible, but I don't think it's fact. My impression is that some permissions had to be given. I also got the distinct impression it wasn't a very cordial experience. But then again, I would have expected nothing else.


Sterling

Hopefully he made those idiots pay through the nose.

Rockwriter wrote:

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

That will be a nice write off, They must need a loser to balance there sheets, They can't make any money off of this idea, 3000 units at best
Good Luck

Well, I don't suppose Eagle Rock would have agreed to distribute this if the band hadn't been able to demonstrate some reasonable indy sales. They wouldn't knowingly invest in a thing that was apt to lose money. And since the band paid for this to be done and their indy sales have probably already earned that back, it's not unlikely that Eagle Rock has no downside risk here. They are probably just distributing and publicizing but have no financial investment and are splitting profit with the band.

The GI/Po8 thing is likely to sell reasonably well, especially as timed to coincide with Christmas. Eagle Rock must have done well enough with the CYO thing to think it's worth it or they wouldn't be doing it.


Sterling

Not to mention that if they had produced it independently they would never be able to get retail distribution of it. Even with the Eagle Rock name behind it, I think that there is a good chance that quite a few retail outlets will still pass on stocking it in their stores. I have found that at best retail outlets currently only stocks the compilation albums at best. Eagle Rock has very little to lose since I am sure they paid nothing toward the recording of these projects. These releases will be here and gone before you know it. It won't even be a blip on the music industry's radar.

Rockwriter wrote:

pinkfloyd1973 wrote:

ChicagoSTYX wrote:Maybe the legal agreement was not open ended and after a specific date they could release what they want.

That's plausible too

That would be plausible, but I don't think it's fact. My impression is that some permissions had to be given. I also got the distinct impression it wasn't a very cordial experience. But then again, I would have expected nothing else.


Sterling

What gave you the impression that it wasn't a cordial experience?

Boomchild wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:

froy wrote:

Rockwriter wrote:Eagle Rock Entertainment will release both volumes of 'Regeneration' commercially as a double-disc project, as well as the upcoming Grand Illusion/Pieces of Eight live project in all formats: http://www.examiner.com/classic-hard-ro ... g-releases


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Sterling

That will be a nice write off, They must need a loser to balance there sheets, They can't make any money off of this idea, 3000 units at best
Good Luck

Well, I don't suppose Eagle Rock would have agreed to distribute this if the band hadn't been able to demonstrate some reasonable indy sales. They wouldn't knowingly invest in a thing that was apt to lose money. And since the band paid for this to be done and their indy sales have probably already earned that back, it's not unlikely that Eagle Rock has no downside risk here. They are probably just distributing and publicizing but have no financial investment and are splitting profit with the band.

The GI/Po8 thing is likely to sell reasonably well, especially as timed to coincide with Christmas. Eagle Rock must have done well enough with the CYO thing to think it's worth it or they wouldn't be doing it.


Sterling

Not to mention that if they had produced it independently they would never be able to get retail distribution of it. Even with the Eagle Rock name behind it, I think that there is a good chance that quite a few retail outlets will still pass on stocking it in their stores. I have found that at best retail outlets currently only stocks the compilation albums at best. Eagle Rock has very little to lose since I am sure they paid nothing toward the recording of these projects. These releases will be here and gone before you know it. It won't even be a blip on the music industry's radar.

That's probably exactly right, but it doesn't take many copies to make a profit when you have nothing much invested. That's the nature of a company that deals entirely in new releases and re-releases from older bands.

Look at the Kansas DVD that was out last year, I think it debuted at #3 in the DVD charts if I'm not mistaken . . . but that was because they had the foresight to pre-sell copies as part of the ticket price to the show they recorded. Consequently they were able to count those sales as opening day sales. I wonder if Styx thought of that? I doubt that Kansas DVD wound up doing 5-6 thousand units, but everyone involved did well enough. That's wasn't an Eagle Rock product, though. Eagle Rock probably has more reach.

Almost every classic rock band is essentially doing the same thing - direct marketing re-hashes of old stuff to a core fan base. It's funny, I asked Eddie Trunk the other day what he thought of that, and he said, "I'd rather have NO album than a bad album." And sadly, that's kinda the guiding philosophy right now.

Sterling