That Metal Show

[RumTumJM]

I am not sure if any of you watch/have seen THAT METAL SHOW, but, believe it or not, Tommy & JY will be guests on an upcoming episode. Joining them will be Vinnie Paul (of Pantera fame), as well as, Steve Stevens (Billy Idol). Most importantly, the episode it set to air on June 2nd.

Now, while I love this show & love to see them squeezing in a band like Styx, I anticipate A LOT of Dennis ripping. The fact that it is primarily a hard rock/metal show, will leave Tommy & JY wanting to sound as "hard rockin'" as possible.

[Boomchild]

I am not sure if any of you watch/have seen THAT METAL SHOW, but, believe it or not, Tommy & JY will be guests on an upcoming episode. Joining them will be Vinnie Paul (of Pantera fame), as well as, Steve Stevens (Billy Idol). Most importantly, the episode it set to air on June 2nd.

Now, while I love this show & love to see them squeezing in a band like Styx, I anticipate A LOT of Dennis ripping. The fact that it is primarily a hard rock/metal show, will leave Tommy & JY wanting to sound as "hard rockin'" as possible.

They must be getting hard up for guests for this show. I watch this show on a regular basis and I don't see where Styx fits into the hosts of this show idea of a hard rock act. Some of the hosts have even ripped acts like Bon Jovi and their closer to Metal\Hard Rock that Styx ever was.

[DarrenUK]

Maybe VH1 will have a new show called That Manilow Show and have Dennis on

[Toph]

I'm calling in and requesting "Yes I Can"

[Toph]

I am not sure if any of you watch/have seen THAT METAL SHOW, but, believe it or not, Tommy & JY will be guests on an upcoming episode. Joining them will be Vinnie Paul (of Pantera fame), as well as, Steve Stevens (Billy Idol). Most importantly, the episode it set to air on June 2nd.

Now, while I love this show & love to see them squeezing in a band like Styx, I anticipate A LOT of Dennis ripping. The fact that it is primarily a hard rock/metal show, will leave Tommy & JY wanting to sound as "hard rockin'" as possible.

You have the date wrong. Website says its April 1st....

[BRETT5150]

jeez i cant wait for this.

[RumTumJM]

I am not sure if any of you watch/have seen THAT METAL SHOW, but, believe it or not, Tommy & JY will be guests on an upcoming episode. Joining them will be Vinnie Paul (of Pantera fame), as well as, Steve Stevens (Billy Idol). Most importantly, the episode it set to air on June 2nd.

Now, while I love this show & love to see them squeezing in a band like Styx, I anticipate A LOT of Dennis ripping. The fact that it is primarily a hard rock/metal show, will leave Tommy & JY wanting to sound as "hard rockin'" as possible.

You have the date wrong. Website says its April 1st....

Interesting. I got the information from this page, that is on Eddie Trunk's site.

http://www.eddietrunk.com/index.cfm/pk/ ... pid/401816

Considering the episodes have not even been filmed yet, we shall see!

[jestor92]

If this is the show with Eddie Trunk as a co-host expect Dennis ripping of some sort because he's the kind of guy that if he knows there is a rift between people he'll try his hardest to get one party to rip on the other. He's an asshole like that.

[masque]

this is not that big of a stretch at all......trunk loves classic rock stuff like foreginer and heart so im sure he likes alot of the stuff styx did like renegade and blue collar man......so i think it will work out fine.

[Boomchild]

this is not that big of a stretch at all......trunk loves classic rock stuff like foreginer and heart so im sure he likes alot of the stuff styx did like renegade and blue collar man......so i think it will work out fine.

The title of of the show is THAT METAL SHOW, would you really put Styx in that category or hard rock for that matter???

[BRETT5150]

hes had cheap trick on, and i've never considered them heavy rock either. Its Eds show, and he puts basiccly artists/bands he likes on

[Toph]

Maybe VH1 will have a new show called That Manilow Show and have Dennis on

Having Dennis or Styx on that would be a heck of a lot more close than having them on a show that features death metal.

[Toph]

this is not that big of a stretch at all......trunk loves classic rock stuff like foreginer and heart so im sure he likes alot of the stuff styx did like renegade and blue collar man......so i think it will work out fine.

Yeah right.... I know some of you have this secret desire and illusion that Styx is some heavy metal outfit but the fact of the matter is that Styx is categorized as Pop/Rock maybe a tad Progressive Rock. Certainly Arena Rock. But they aren't close to being metal - no matter how much JY and TS try to rewrite history. Their biggest songs are ballads and pop oriented tracks. Renegade, while having a harder crunchier edge, is straight ahead rock. It isn't close to metal. If it was true metal it wouldn't be a mainstream single that went to #16 nationally. I would argue that BCM is lighter than Renegade. Any song that has a bridge with doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo ain't metal. It's pop flavored rock.

[masque]

look people......maybe i watch THAT METAL SHOW more than you guys or something but Eddie Trunk has addressed this very subject on air before......he has said outloud on air that even though the show is called THAT METAL SHOW that its open to any rock/hard rock bands including metal bands..........and yes, outside of babe, dont let it end and mr. roboto most of styx's more famous songs are either rock/hard rock or at the very least pop rock......

they certainly at times rock as hard or harder than foreigner, journey, boston, heart, cheap trick and many others that trunk digs.......

even though many of us are tired of hearing renegade, blue collar man and come sail away those songs are hard rock or have their hard rock moments.

and believe it or not many "older" styx fans that used to fill up the "enormo domes" back in their heyday were there just as much to hear the grand illusion, miss america, great white hope and rockin the paradise as they were to hear fooling yourself or the best of times.

styx as a live band was very much known as a "rocking" band live and how in the hell do you think they even got on the show? do you think they begged on there or something? of course not, trunk went down his list and invited them and they said yes....its not rocket science they are there because they were asked by the people running the show.

[Baron Von Bielski]

I think it's a pretty good lineup. They had Night Ranger on so why not Styx. I love that show... probably my favorite. My youngest son and I never miss a show together. We were so bummed after last season ended.

[masque]

I think it's a pretty good lineup. They had Night Ranger on so why not Styx. I love that show... probably my favorite. My youngest son and I never miss a show together. We were so bummed after last season ended.

exactly

[Baron Von Bielski]

look people......maybe i watch THAT METAL SHOW more than you guys or something but Eddie Trunk has addressed this very subject on air before......he has said outloud on air that even though the show is called THAT METAL SHOW that its open to any rock/hard rock bands including metal bands.

You are correct. He has said it numerous times.

[Boomchild]

look people......maybe i watch THAT METAL SHOW more than you guys or something but Eddie Trunk has addressed this very subject on air before......he has said outloud on air that even though the show is called THAT METAL SHOW that its open to any rock/hard rock bands including metal bands.

You are correct. He has said it numerous times.

And his co-hosts are quick to let him know that it doesn't always seem to fit the premise of the show. Judging from the audience interaction on the show I don't think they are there to see members from bands like Night Ranger, Cheap Trick and Styx. Sorry to burst peoples bubble but Styx is not a hard rock act. That does not mean that they are less important. Wait till they come to stump the trunk and the player pulls out GI\PO8 DVD as a prize and wants to put it back and pick something else!

[DarrenUK]

They have had Rush on the show and I dont class them as metal ....nothing wrong with a broad scope of music being shown ......

[masque]

look people......maybe i watch THAT METAL SHOW more than you guys or something but Eddie Trunk has addressed this very subject on air before......he has said outloud on air that even though the show is called THAT METAL SHOW that its open to any rock/hard rock bands including metal bands.

You are correct. He has said it numerous times.

And his co-hosts are quick to let him know that it doesn't always seem to fit the premise of the show. Judging from the audience interaction on the show I don't think they are there to see members from bands like Night Ranger, Cheap Trick and Styx. Sorry to burst peoples bubble but Styx is not a hard rock act. That does not mean that they are less important. Wait till they come to stump the trunk and the player pulls out GI\PO8 DVD as a prize and wants to put it back and pick something else!

to me styx is hard rock......if you look at the wooden nickel album all the way up thru pieces of eight they cant be anything but hard rock....metal? not at all.....hard rock? you bet your booty.

and when you look at their last hard rock album pieces of eight it smoked in many areas......songs like great white hope, blue collar man, queen of spades and renegade are fantastic hard rock songs and lord of the rings and i'm ok are not far behind from being hard rock.

i

[masque]

look at it like this......let's take only songs from their hey day from 75-83. songs that woudl have been commonly played in concerty during that time;

lady
loreli
midnight ride
born for adventure
suite madame blue
put me on
shooz
the grand illusion
miss america
great white hope
blue collar man
renegade
borrowed time
rockin the paradise
halp penny two penny
snowblind
heavy metal poisoning


any hard rock band at the time would have for sure considered those songs hard rock.....and so did the american public.....take those songs and compare them to aerosmith, cheap trick, boston, foreigner, van halen, def leppard and may others and you can clearly see that they rock pretty dang hard.

and when you throw in songs like fooling yourself and come sail away and crystal ball they can be consdiered rock for sure as well.

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

it's like trying to consider kansas as folk rock because of dust in the wind or extreme as pussy ballad rock like barry manilow because of more than words......a song here and there does not define a band if you truly listen to them......its the overall catalog and what they represent to the public when they play live......and even when dennis was in the band they presented the hard rock side of this band live all thru their prime.

[Boomchild]

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

And Songs like,

Sing For The Day
Pieces of Eight
Just Get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Superstars
Mademoiselle
Jennifer
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Ballerina
Light Up
Mother Dear
Lonely Child
Lights
Never Say Never
First Time

Their rock songs were more straight forward rock then hard rock. They always had a mixture of different styles. I would love to see an article, book where someone classifies Styx as a hard rock act.

[Toph]

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

And Songs like,

Sing For The Day
Pieces of Eight
Just Get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Superstars
Mademoiselle
Jennifer
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Ballerina
Light Up
Mother Dear
Lonely Child
Lights
Never Say Never
First Time

Their rock songs were more straight forward rock then hard rock. They always had a mixture of different styles. I would love to see an article, book where someone classifies Styx as a hard rock act.

Boat On the river
Come Sail Away
Don't Let It end
Carrie Ann
Show Me The Way
Love At First Sight
Back To Chicago
I'm Okay

Are more examples. This is not a heavy metal or even a hard rock band.

[Monker]

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

And Songs like,

Sing For The Day
Pieces of Eight
Just Get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Superstars
Mademoiselle
Jennifer
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Ballerina
Light Up
Mother Dear
Lonely Child
Lights
Never Say Never
First Time

Their rock songs were more straight forward rock then hard rock. They always had a mixture of different styles. I would love to see an article, book where someone classifies Styx as a hard rock act.

Boat On the river
Come Sail Away
Don't Let It end
Carrie Ann
Show Me The Way
Love At First Sight
Back To Chicago
I'm Okay

Are more examples. This is not a heavy metal or even a hard rock band.

Funny how those that drink Dennis' bathwater refuse to see the hard rock side of Styx.

Styx was a mixture of influence...and, yes, whether you admit it or not, JY brought in the hard rock/metal influence to the band. It's not there in every song, but it IS in their catalog and their history.

[Boomchild]

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

And Songs like,

Sing For The Day
Pieces of Eight
Just Get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Superstars
Mademoiselle
Jennifer
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Ballerina
Light Up
Mother Dear
Lonely Child
Lights
Never Say Never
First Time

Their rock songs were more straight forward rock then hard rock. They always had a mixture of different styles. I would love to see an article, book where someone classifies Styx as a hard rock act.

Boat On the river
Come Sail Away
Don't Let It end
Carrie Ann
Show Me The Way
Love At First Sight
Back To Chicago
I'm Okay

Are more examples. This is not a heavy metal or even a hard rock band.

Funny how those that drink Dennis' bathwater refuse to see the hard rock side of Styx.

Styx was a mixture of influence...and, yes, whether you admit it or not, JY brought in the hard rock/metal influence to the band. It's not there in every song, but it IS in their catalog and their history.

The issue is not whether someone sees certain songs by Styx as straight forward rock or hard rock. It using that to classify Styx as a hard rock act as a whole. They were a mixture of styles. It's not folks not admitting to JY's edginess he brought to the table he certainly did, it's the folks ignoring the melodic, progressive like and ballad type of material. Hard rock is more along the lines of AC\DC. Again, I ask where can you find anyone in the music business listing Styx as a "Hard Rock" act.

[Monker]

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

And Songs like,

Sing For The Day
Pieces of Eight
Just Get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Superstars
Mademoiselle
Jennifer
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Ballerina
Light Up
Mother Dear
Lonely Child
Lights
Never Say Never
First Time

Their rock songs were more straight forward rock then hard rock. They always had a mixture of different styles. I would love to see an article, book where someone classifies Styx as a hard rock act.

Boat On the river
Come Sail Away
Don't Let It end
Carrie Ann
Show Me The Way
Love At First Sight
Back To Chicago
I'm Okay

Are more examples. This is not a heavy metal or even a hard rock band.

Funny how those that drink Dennis' bathwater refuse to see the hard rock side of Styx.

Styx was a mixture of influence...and, yes, whether you admit it or not, JY brought in the hard rock/metal influence to the band. It's not there in every song, but it IS in their catalog and their history.

The issue is not whether someone sees certain songs by Styx as straight forward rock or hard rock. It using that to classify Styx as a hard rock act as a whole. They were a mixture of styles. It's not folks not admitting to JY's edginess he brought to the table he certainly did, it's the folks ignoring the melodic, progressive like and ballad type of material. Hard rock is more along the lines of AC\DC. Again, I ask where can you find anyone in the music business listing Styx as a "Hard Rock" act.

Nobody is 'ignoring' ballads or Progressive influence, etc. What is being ignored and discredited by you and others is the metal/hard rock side of Styx and allowing that to shine through on a show such as this.

Are you guys fans of this band or not? The one article I read about this (which has not been posted here) does nothing but praise the band and Dennis. You people are so caught up in 'whatever' that you can't see that this does nothing but put a good spin on the ENTIRETY of the band. If you guys can't see this and be excited for the recognition, then I really feel like you are in the wrong forum.

Styx is not the band you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along please.

[Boomchild]

its only the songs like babe, best of times, boat on the river, mr. roboto and dont let it endthat fall short of the "hard rock" category or even the rock category. but those handful of songs does not and cannot override who and what this band was at their core in their prime. i think vast majority of listeners that truly know music would agree.

And Songs like,

Sing For The Day
Pieces of Eight
Just Get Through This Night
Haven't We Been Here Before
Superstars
Mademoiselle
Jennifer
Crystal Ball
This Old Man
Ballerina
Light Up
Mother Dear
Lonely Child
Lights
Never Say Never
First Time

Their rock songs were more straight forward rock then hard rock. They always had a mixture of different styles. I would love to see an article, book where someone classifies Styx as a hard rock act.

Boat On the river
Come Sail Away
Don't Let It end
Carrie Ann
Show Me The Way
Love At First Sight
Back To Chicago
I'm Okay

Are more examples. This is not a heavy metal or even a hard rock band.

Funny how those that drink Dennis' bathwater refuse to see the hard rock side of Styx.

Styx was a mixture of influence...and, yes, whether you admit it or not, JY brought in the hard rock/metal influence to the band. It's not there in every song, but it IS in their catalog and their history.

The issue is not whether someone sees certain songs by Styx as straight forward rock or hard rock. It using that to classify Styx as a hard rock act as a whole. They were a mixture of styles. It's not folks not admitting to JY's edginess he brought to the table he certainly did, it's the folks ignoring the melodic, progressive like and ballad type of material. Hard rock is more along the lines of AC\DC. Again, I ask where can you find anyone in the music business listing Styx as a "Hard Rock" act.

Nobody is 'ignoring' ballads or Progressive influence, etc. What is being ignored and discredited by you and others is the metal/hard rock side of Styx and allowing that to shine through on a show such as this.

Are you guys fans of this band or not? The one article I read about this (which has not been posted here) does nothing but praise the band and Dennis. You people are so caught up in 'whatever' that you can't see that this does nothing but put a good spin on the ENTIRETY of the band. If you guys can't see this and be excited for the recognition, then I really feel like you are in the wrong forum.

Styx is not the band you are looking for. You can go about your business. Move along please.

Your dense. It's got nothing to do with if I like Styx or not. It's about those that want to label Styx as a hard rock band. They were a band with mixture of different styles so you can't put them in the category of hard rock. Just because someone doesn't consider Styx as a hard rock act doesn't mean they discredit their harder edged songs. They were more then that and therefore you can't just put them into that category. How many of the other artists and acts that have appeared on this show have done a improv on ice show??? I can just see AC\DC, Ozzy, Metallica, Whitesnake, Motley Crue Judas Preist et al doing that.

[Monker]

Your dense. It's got nothing to do with if I like Styx or not. It's about those that want to label Styx as a hard rock band.

Bullshit. Can't you guys just let things be one time without the constant assault?

If it were 1995, you all would be thrilled by this. Nothing makes you guys happy.

The bottom line is this has nothing to do with who is or is not in the band...but that is irrelevant. It all HAS to be a fight.

You are no fan of this band. Sad that you still think you are.

[Toph]

Your dense. It's got nothing to do with if I like Styx or not. It's about those that want to label Styx as a hard rock band.

Bullshit. Can't you guys just let things be one time without the constant assault?

If it were 1995, you all would be thrilled by this. Nothing makes you guys happy.

The bottom line is this has nothing to do with who is or is not in the band...but that is irrelevant. It all HAS to be a fight.

You are no fan of this band. Sad that you still think you are.

I can't speak for all, but I am a fan of the real version of Styx - not this bastardized, revisionist history put out by Young and Shaw and their slimey manager.

The Styx I know and grew up with were not close to heavy metal - I wouldn't have liked them if they were. Lots of fans feel the same way. So, YOU stop telling me that the band is hard rock/heavy metal. They aren't close. Neither is Journey, REO Speedwagon, etc.

And the level that slimeballs Young and Shaw have gone to provide otherwise is a pathetic rewriting of history. Its bullshit.

[Boomchild]

Your dense. It's got nothing to do with if I like Styx or not. It's about those that want to label Styx as a hard rock band.

Bullshit. Can't you guys just let things be one time without the constant assault?

If it were 1995, you all would be thrilled by this. Nothing makes you guys happy.

The bottom line is this has nothing to do with who is or is not in the band...but that is irrelevant. It all HAS to be a fight.

You are no fan of this band. Sad that you still think you are.

I am no fan of the current line up that makes up Styx, your right. But I don't see current Styx only in the title of this forum. Funny how you don't pipe up about "letting things be" when someone starts ripping on Dennis. If it was 1995, I still would be saying that labelling Styx as a hard rock act would not be the right term to use. Assault that's a laugh.