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what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:53 pm
by masque
Ok here it is………I imagined what could have been if the boys had not gone their separate ways in the 80’s.

I reviewed the post styx solo stuff up thru the rest of the 80’s.

I did not take into consideration tommy’s 7 deadly zens album or dennis’s 100 years from now because these albums were post 80’s.

I also did not take into consideration the james young group’s raised by wolves album (which is fantastic) but benefited from the other guys in that band doing the bulk of the writing not JY.

Lastly, I did not include “ever since the world began”….because tommy did not write that song.......even though it's a killer tune.


FIRST POST KILROY ALBUM AROUND 1985

SIDE 1
1) GIRLS WITH GUNS
2) DONT WAIT FOR HEROS
3) DESERT MOON
4) NATURE OF THE BEAST
5) HARRYS HANDS

SIDE 2
1) BLACK WALL
2) WHAT IF
3) LONELY SCHOOL
4) CHAIN ME DOWN
5) KISS ME HELLO

SECOND POST KILROY ALBUM AROUND 1987

SIDE 1
1) NO SUCH THING
2) SEE ME NOW
3) THIS IS THE TIME
4) CALL ME
5) GRAVITY

SIDE 2
1) SOUTHBOUND RYAN
2) THE OUTSIDER
3) WARNING SHOT
4) AMBITION
5) LITTLE GIRL WORLD



I figure these two albums could have sold a minimum 2-3 million each and produced at least 2-3 top 20 hits each with at least one song making it into the top 10 from each album…….especially if these albums had been released as styx albums……PLUS all of these songs (as good as they are) would have benefited greatly from the other styx members putting their sound and stamp on them……and if I had been producing them I would upped the edge and aggressiveness of the sound of most of these songs just a bit….not over the top but just a bit.

What do you think about my lists?

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:26 pm
by Boomchild
No JY tune on the second album? You gotta at least throw him a bone on each album.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:38 pm
by FormerDJMike
I also heard Tommy say Runaway by Damn Yanks was written for Styx so that could be in there somewhere as well. Toys For American Boys, as bad as it is, is very Styx-ish. Or Love Me Tonight, Dr. On Call was good.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:00 am
by yogi
I would surely add 'Come In an Explain' which may be Tommy's BEST hard rockin songs ever. This song proved that Tommy REALLY could rock when he wanted to. Would also add 'Free To Love You' AWESOME song from Girls with Guns. I would add 'Wont Go Wasted' and 'Unanswered Prayers' & 'Outside Looking In' from DDY and 'Waiting' and 'Wild Dogs' from from JY

I would get rid of What If, See Me Now and Southbound Ryan

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:56 am
by masque
oh man, I dont know what happened.....come in and explain was actually my first tommy tune I chose......I dont know how that I wound up not writing it down on the final list......one of his best solo tunes.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:28 am
by Boomchild
I think "Reach For the Bottle" is a better choice then "What If".

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:28 am
by masque
yeh some folks hold reach for the bottle in pretty high regard but it's never done much for me....not a bad tune at all but not one of my faves.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:25 am
by styxfanNH
The "album" after Kilroy was slated to be additional songs for a broadway conversion of Kilroy. The band was already toying with the idea of bringing the Kilroy concept to Broadway. Work had already been started on a book for the show but Styx needed more songs to be able to cover the timespan of the show. Some variation of the first albums of Dennis, Tommy, and JY would have made the next two albums after that.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 4:34 pm
by Boomchild
styxfanNH wrote:The "album" after Kilroy was slated to be additional songs for a broadway conversion of Kilroy. The band was already toying with the idea of bringing the Kilroy concept to Broadway. Work had already been started on a book for the show but Styx needed more songs to be able to cover the timespan of the show. Some variation of the first albums of Dennis, Tommy, and JY would have made the next two albums after that.


Who is the source for this? I remember hearing DDY say that after Kilroy he felt they would go back to doing a more traditional rock album.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:21 am
by Toph
Boomchild wrote:
styxfanNH wrote:The "album" after Kilroy was slated to be additional songs for a broadway conversion of Kilroy. The band was already toying with the idea of bringing the Kilroy concept to Broadway. Work had already been started on a book for the show but Styx needed more songs to be able to cover the timespan of the show. Some variation of the first albums of Dennis, Tommy, and JY would have made the next two albums after that.


Who is the source for this? I remember hearing DDY say that after Kilroy he felt they would go back to doing a more traditional rock album.



I never heard Broadway, but I did read (Sterling's book?) that there was a movement to make it into a movie.

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:34 am
by styxfanNH

Re: what could have been post Kilroy

PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:44 am
by styxfanNH
masque wrote:Ok here it is………I imagined what could have been if the boys had not gone their separate ways in the 80’s.

I reviewed the post styx solo stuff up thru the rest of the 80’s.

I did not take into consideration tommy’s 7 deadly zens album or dennis’s 100 years from now because these albums were post 80’s.

I also did not take into consideration the james young group’s raised by wolves album (which is fantastic) but benefited from the other guys in that band doing the bulk of the writing not JY.

Lastly, I did not include “ever since the world began”….because tommy did not write that song.......even though it's a killer tune.


FIRST POST KILROY ALBUM AROUND 1985

SIDE 1
1) GIRLS WITH GUNS
2) DONT WAIT FOR HEROS
3) DESERT MOON
4) NATURE OF THE BEAST
5) HARRYS HANDS

SIDE 2
1) BLACK WALL
2) WHAT IF
3) LONELY SCHOOL
4) CHAIN ME DOWN
5) KISS ME HELLO

SECOND POST KILROY ALBUM AROUND 1987

SIDE 1
1) NO SUCH THING
2) SEE ME NOW
3) THIS IS THE TIME
4) CALL ME
5) GRAVITY

SIDE 2
1) SOUTHBOUND RYAN
2) THE OUTSIDER
3) WARNING SHOT
4) AMBITION
5) LITTLE GIRL WORLD



I figure these two albums could have sold a minimum 2-3 million each and produced at least 2-3 top 20 hits each with at least one song making it into the top 10 from each album…….especially if these albums had been released as styx albums……PLUS all of these songs (as good as they are) would have benefited greatly from the other styx members putting their sound and stamp on them……and if I had been producing them I would upped the edge and aggressiveness of the sound of most of these songs just a bit….not over the top but just a bit.

What do you think about my lists?


What about City Slicker's songs? JY's first solo album.