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A SECOND TAKE ON WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:48 am
by yogi
Ive been listening to Glen's CD pretty much nonstop for about a month now. As GOOD as I thought it was orginally, NOW, I think it is even BETTER. The CD is AWESOME!!!!!!!! It is soooo damn hard to not keep hitting the repeat button on almost all of the songs. I remember when Def Leppard's Hysteria CD came out. It took me two weeks to hear the entire CD because I couldnt get past the song Women for the longest time. Then I couldnt get past Animal, then it was Love Bites, then Pour some Sugar On Me,etc, etc.... Glens CD is THAT AWESOME. Listen Superboy,Welcome To Hollywood, Another, Bam, All Thats Yet To Come, etc, etc...... Its just an ABSOLUTE INCREDIBLE CD and a MUST buy.

Finally, MAJOR PROPS have to go out to DENNIS & JY for bringing Glen into the group. Most of us may NEVER of even heard of this guy if Dennis & JY had not recognized his ENORMOUS talent. He is EVERY bit as good as Tommy, and Welcome To Hollywood plus what he contributed to the Styx albums he was on proves this. It UNREAL how EXCELLENT this CD is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:21 am
by classicstyxfan
Thank you Yogi for that luke warm review of Mr Burtnik's latest release........please stop back when you find some music to review that you really like :wink:

on another tangent, Dennis gets the boot because he wont go out an tour to support BNW, and Glen leaves the group because the extensive touring leaves too little time for his family.......

Hmmm........perhaps one day Glen and Dennis could collaborate ?
or perhaps they could tour together as 2 separate solo acts ?

just a thought.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:07 am
by bugsymalone
Finally, MAJOR PROPS have to go out to DENNIS & JY for bringing Glen into the group. Most of us may NEVER of even heard of this guy if Dennis & JY had not recognized his ENORMOUS talent.


I firmly believe that "Edge of the Century" stands up to any Styx album out there. Because of Dennis' impeccable producing skills and because he allowed the talent of Glen to shine.

I listen to that album as much as any of the great classics Styx recorded in the 70's and 80's.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:32 am
by classicstyxfan
Bugsy,

There's a take that you don't hear often on this board.....I reallly like the 1st 6 songs on Edge, the rest of that CD just doesnt live up to their past work for me.

All in a days work is my favorite cut on the whole disc.

I think Dennis should add "Not Dead Yet" to his setlist and dedicate it every night to TS and JY !

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:02 am
by yogi
I also thought Edge was an EXCELLENT Styx release. I truly felt Dennis DID EVERYTHING possible to put Glen in the spotlight with the album and tour. The first release ( Love Is The Ritual) was a Glen penned song, they named the album after another Glen song ( same thing as with Tommy and Crystal Ball ), and half the songs on the album were sung by Glen. On tour Glen sung lead on almost half of the songs.

We will NEVER know all of the goings on within the group. But with looking at the ONLY Styx album and tour that Glen and Dennis were on together it SURE appears Glen had much more of an impact than he did on Cyclorama and the touring since 1999.

Again PROPS to Glen for a TRULY AWESOME NEW CD. Props to DENNIS for allowing him to share the spotlight way back in 91. Go PURCHASE Welcome To Hollywood you WILL LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:00 am
by froy
[quote="yogi"]I also thought Edge was an EXCELLENT Styx release. I truly felt Dennis DID EVERYTHING possible to put Glen in the spotlight with the album and tour. The first release ( Love Is The Ritual) was a Glen penned song, they named the album after another Glen song ( same thing as with Tommy and Crystal Ball ), and half the songs on the album were sung by Glen. On tour Glen sung lead on almost half of the songs.

And that's why the Edge tour sucked because of Glen
He was booed off the stage in Milwaukee
Glad he's gone never liked New Jersey dudes

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:12 am
by gr8dane
Good ole froy.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:01 am
by yogi
Really liked the album & LOVED the tour!!!!!!!!!!!I'm sure in Milwaukee he was booed off the stage by nimrods just like you who felt Styx had NO right to go on without Tommy Shaw. Even though the REST of the band wanted to produce new material and tour. By your logic one individual should be allowed to halt a group decission.

So how farrrrr did you have to fly to see Journey this summer there Froy?? Who's in that group now???? I heard they played the Hollywood Bowl. It got a decent review. WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!!!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:28 am
by Monker
I agree somewhat about Edge...It did not seem he fit into the band at that time. The image of him that I have of that time was him standing like a statue during the Arsenio performance. Even on album he sounded out of place...later I learned that many of those songs were written and even performed by Glen long before he even joined Styx...kinda like your favorite song on Cyclorama, "Killing the Thing That You Love".

Edge is Styx' version of "Raised on Radio"...Totaly dominated by Dennis, filled with over-produced songs that sound like pop-music instead of rock. JY's influence was totaly ignored. The only songs I really cared for were, ironicaly: EotC, Love s the Ritual, and Show Me the Way. The rest are forgettable, and forgotten, actually. I don't remember the last time I listened to them.

Glen may not have had as much influence on Cyclorama...but, what he did have showed that he had grown tremendously as a writer, singer, and in concert - a performer. No more standing like a statue for Glen.

That is why many miss him and worry about his absense for the next album...because he was thoroughly enjoyable on Cyclorama and on tour...Not because of Edge or his work during his time with Dennis.

Blaming the Edge tour on Glen is hillarious...It was DDY's baby at that time - not Glen's.

froy wrote:
yogi wrote:I also thought Edge was an EXCELLENT Styx release. I truly felt Dennis DID EVERYTHING possible to put Glen in the spotlight with the album and tour. The first release ( Love Is The Ritual) was a Glen penned song, they named the album after another Glen song ( same thing as with Tommy and Crystal Ball ), and half the songs on the album were sung by Glen. On tour Glen sung lead on almost half of the songs.

And that's why the Edge tour sucked because of Glen
He was booed off the stage in Milwaukee
Glad he's gone never liked New Jersey dudes

boo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:43 am
by gr8dane
I must say it baffles me when somebody gets booed of stage,specially when YOU are paying to see this.So in Milwacky or whatever,was the show over after a song ,2 songs?
If Styx was opening and were booed off stage, did the headliner then go on earlier to compensate,,,,not likely.
I guess if you are a professional heckler,I hope you have good funding.
Anyways,I am going to Alice Cooper tomorrow.Is it OK to do that, and like the old Styx but also the new Styx and the song 'A day " by Curulewski,but not DDY's 'Desert moon album' except for 'Fire',and never heard a solo Tommy Cdinmylifejynvrinkhjm ho hum.??????? :oops:
Have a great summer all,,I know I will.
gr8dane

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:38 pm
by SuiteMadameBlue
Ahem gr8dane, I'm from the MILWAUKEE area, not Milwacky :wink:
Have fun seeing Alice Cooper. I heard he puts on a GREAT show. My husband has seen him numerous times. :)

I was at the Milwaukee show and I don't recall anyone booing Glen. I did hear a few hecklers, like at most shows now.

In July 1999 when the new Styx came to our area, Larry was totally booed. Not many people knew at the time that Dennis was no longer in the band. I didn't know at the time what had happened. I did feel bad for Larry, it was very uncomfortable. He sounded just terrible doing Dennis' songs, it was awful - no offense to all you Larry lovers out there :wink:

Oh, I LOVE the song "All In a Day's Work"!! Oh, and I LOVE "Back To Chicago"!!! It was SO great to hear it live this past year in Chicago at Dennis' concert, what a GREAT opener!!

I'm listening to my Edge of the Century cd now, thanks, it's great to hear this again :D

Yogi, you sold me on the Anthology cd's, I didn't have the gold cd's - LOL Now it looks like I'm going to by the Welcome to Hollywood cd. I hope you receive a commission :wink:

I hope everyone's doing GREAT :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:41 pm
by Adam
I sincerely doubt Glen was booed off the stage in Milwaukee. Consider the source of this information. It's probably erroneous.

Perhaps Froy was there and, angry that the band of his youth wasn't reunited before his eyes the way he always dreamed they would, expressed his frustration and booed. And let's say there was one other boo-er nearby Froy. Who knows? That would've very likely cemented in Froy's mind that Glen was booed off the stage, when in fact he wasn't. (I don't recall ever hearing such a thing.)

What happened next, Froy? Did the rest of the band stay on stage and finish the show without him or something? I don't believe it.

I've seen live videos, btw. Glen was no statue on the Edge tour. But I agree, he has only improved with time. Also, I wouldn't discount his contributions to Cyclorama. That was an album of collaboration, and although it's easy to see who the main writer of each track might've been, it's hard to tell how much was changed or added by the others. Second to Tommy, Glen certainly seems to have the most varied and prolific past as a songwriter and collaborator for other artists (if not more).

As for Welcome To Hollywood, I completely agree. I think it is probably better than a number of Styx albums, including Cyclorama, Edge Of The Century and Brave New World at the very least. This album is so steeped in melody and lyrics, it takes awhile to digest just how great it is. And the sound of the production is amazing.

It's my favorite new album. (I love the song Cry).

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:28 pm
by Monker
I've seen live videos, btw. Glen was no statue on the Edge tour.


I just want to say that I'm not implying that he was that way ON TOUR. Just on that one show. At that time, I simply did not feel he was a good fit for Styx...seeing him so stiff on Arsenio just cemented that idea. If I remember right, JY was that way too.

Back then, Glen seemed to be this Bruce Springsteen wannabe...which, IMO, was not a good fit for a rock band with Progressive roots. I did not want a slave of New Brunswick in Styx. They removed the melodic rocker (Tommy) and replaced him with somebody who seemed most comfortable writing folk music, or whatever.

But, my opinion of him has completely changed after Cyclorama and seeing the new band in concert a few times.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:38 pm
by sadie65
I don't find Mr. Burtnik's work to be great or horrible. I have not heard any of Welcome to Hollywood, so I cannot comment there.

I think, whatever your feelings about the various lineups, he was able to showcase his talents for each album/tour. Seems to me, just like Dennis or any other artist who's had a long career, he changed his style as he aged. Was he used properly in both cases? Who knows? And since he's moved on, I'll just wish him well with this cd and whatever his future brings him.

I personally thought he looked silly in his clothes and with that hair during EOTC. And I thought he looked silly with that hair and those clothes during Cyclorama. I guess he didn't change that aspect of his life.... :wink:

Peace,

Sadie

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:18 am
by Monker
I personally thought he looked silly in his clothes and with that hair during EOTC. And I thought he looked silly with that hair and those clothes during Cyclorama. I guess he didn't change that aspect of his life....


Maybe not...But, like most things, there is another perspective to consider.

You never changed your critical vision of Glen. It seems a bit silly to me to judge somebody by the clothes they wear anyway.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:17 am
by classicstyxfan
If you want to talk about sillycloths and hair, just get the new DVGD with the Styx video's on ( 20th century or millenium, whatever they are calling it )

those clothes and hairstyles all look pretty ridiculous put into 21st century perspective ! ( I LOVE John's fro ! )

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:45 am
by sadie65
You're right. They definitely had some interesting looks in their day. Who of us doesn't?

I was not judging Glenn. I observed that he wore his clothes and hair outside the mainstream for each era. I said I thought he looked silly. Neither critical nor a judgment. An observation. I'm sure the same could be said of me.

Peace

Sadie

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:02 am
by yogi
Lets talk MISSINFORMATION for a minute. Is that how it is spelled?? Should I just say blantant Froy lies. Styx getting booooooed off the stage in Milwaukee during the Edge tour is a TOTAL bunch of crap. Maybe Froy and his one six year old male friend that he met on the street earlier that day then payed 20 dollars to take him to the show booed Styx during the encore so Froy later could saythat Styx got booed off the stage in Milwaukee.How many Hamms, Schmidt or Grain Belt beers did you feed that six year old that night???I saw the Edge show with about 9 thousand other fans in Minneapolis and they were treated like the rock gods they are. It was a GREAT show, and I'm sure it was played pretty close to the same date as the Milwaukee show since Minneapolis and Milwaukee are so close together. The show even got good reviews before and AFTER in the St. Paul Dispatch which for Styx is very rare. Seems to me if they were getting booed off the stage at other venues the way the press hates Styx the press would of eaten that up. I also own two bootlegs of that tour the crowds in Toronto and St. Louis seemed pretty damn satisfied with what they are hearing. Shovel it somewhere else Froy. No on buys it here.

You know what though Froy, your in good company with making up booed off of the stage stories. Tommy and that manager on Behind The Music saying Styx was booed at the Texas Jam in Dallas during The Kilroy Tour was also a bunch of crap. I was there along with about 50 thousand others. The booing was about the heat, beer sales closing, hour plus restroom lines, Styx taking toooo damn long to get on stage, and 8 hours of music before them in 120 degree heat. Saying it had ANYTHING to do with the actual concert is a TOTAL bunch of CRAP, just like you have been shoveling here for sooo long. 99 percent of the people that were not drunk or stoned off of their asses or looking for a fight, or that one last beer LOVED the show. They proved why they were the headliners that day!!!

As for Welcome To Hollywood...... It's even BETTER with todays listen. Damn its GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:44 am
by Adam
Froy has left the building. Right now he's feeling good about what he believes to be his "clever" anti-Styx comments and won't return to this topic. He sure told us how it is. Who cares?

P.S. Agreed, Glen has dressed outrageously. But so has DeYoung, Shaw and JY. Can anyone remember Tommy's jumpsuits? How about the white striped "gondolier" shirt DeYoung wore on Return To Paradise video? And Young just about always looks fairly ridiculous fashion-wise.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:32 am
by yogi
Almost forgot that 6 year old Froy befriended, fed Grain Belts and took to the Edge concert to heckel Glen was in fact from Jersey. So I guess you now dont dislike EVERYONE from Jersey!!! WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!!!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:34 am
by bugsymalone
99 percent of the people that were not drunk or stoned off of their asses or looking for a fight, or that one last beer LOVED the show. They proved why they were the headliners that day!!!


Behind the Music had one agenda only: to make Dennis out to be the evil destroyer of the group Styx. To lie about what went on at the Dallas and Houston concerts simply fit their agenda.
I have heard from too many sources who were at those shows, and other concerts on the Kilroy Was Here tour, that said the audiences loved the show, start to finish, to believe what was shown as "fact" by VH1 on Behind the Music.

As to the Edge tour. Again, I understand that there were a few boos here and their for Glen, but most people loved the show once the music really kicked in.

I still stand by my earlier post that the EOTC recording was the last good Styx album. That, of course, is my opinion and I see others beg to differ.

One last statement -- there is a huge difference between a member who voluntarily leaves a group and gives his blessing to whoever may replace him. Or who simply says he does not want to be in the group anymore.

That did NOT happen with Dennis. And that is why many who were fans of the Styx that he formed and was a major part of, are bitter about the new lineup. They took it upon themselves to go on with the name AND his songs, and act as if there was no problem with this. AGAIN, ONLY MY OPINION on this matter.

All that said. I enjoy the give and take on this group and it is a really great group. I think there are fans of all manner of Styx incarnations and this is just fine with me. I like to read what everyone has to say, whether I agree with them or not, and I always enjoy the humor.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:55 am
by yogi
Getting back to my orginal post and my praise for Glen's Welcome To Hollywood CD, I have some questions for anyone who has heard this TRUE masterpiece. The songs Superboy & Bam are just incredible. They both seem to be talking about rags to riches to rags stories of rock superstars, and how sooo many of them sell out. Do any of you think Glen wrote these songs about the current state of Styx, Tommy or Dennis??? 'Bitching with the old hacks, hanging on the comeback door' Starting off in 'Rolling Stone & Vanity Fair' then ending up on 'Jerry Springer or Hollywood Squares'. Those songs are pretty damn harsh, but how TRUE. I realize this could be about Frampton, The Backstreet Boys, David Cassidy, New Kids or MANY MANY Many other acts. Why do I feel these songs are about Styx or its individual members?? I also wonder if Tommy got wind of these during the 'endless tour'. These songs sure could be aimed in his direction. Could any of this have led to Glen leaving. Finally, I REALLY found it strange and odd that NO one from Styx showed up at Glen's Christmas fundraiser this past December. Do ANY of you feel the same about these songs and what I have written????

With all of that being said I just listened to Another and All Thats Yet To Come about five times each this morning. What INCREDIBLE songs from an EVEN MOOOOORE INCREDIBLE CD!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:35 am
by Monker
One last statement -- there is a huge difference between a member who voluntarily leaves a group and gives his blessing to whoever may replace him. Or who simply says he does not want to be in the group anymore.

That did NOT happen with Dennis. And that is why many who were fans of the Styx that he formed and was a major part of, are bitter about the new lineup. They took it upon themselves to go on with the name AND his songs, and act as if there was no problem with this. AGAIN, ONLY MY OPINION on this matter.


This is just a misrepresentation of what happened between Tommy and Styx during Edge/DY.

Tommy tried mulitiple times to get Dennis to move on a Styx reunion. But, Dennis insisted on promoting Boomchild instead. He put Tommy off for multiple phone calls until Tommy finaly told him he had this thing started with Jack Blades and Nugent and he needed an answer about Styx. DENNIS TOLD TOMMY TO DO DY. Even DENNIS has said that.

By the time Dennis was FINALY able to do Styx, Tommy was moving in DY...and Tommy didn't fight Dennis about Styx...I believe he even sold back his ownership in the band. If Tommy had fought it like Dennis did, taking the band to court, etc, some of you would have gone completely over the edge about it.

Saying Tommy did not want to be in the band any more is a complete farce. It was Tommy who got the talk going about a Styx reunion. It was that talk that initiated the band talking and getting together for an album...again DENNIS has even admitted this in interviews.

And, this is NOT my opinion, these are facts:

Tommy started the talk which initiated the band getting together for EotC.

Dennis TOLD TOMMY to DY.

Dennis put his failing solo career above committing to doing a Styx reunion with Tommy.

So, the difference here isn't just a member allowing himself to be replaced...It's also the band going along with Dennis' rule...and Tommy exiting because of it...and, in current times, the band refusing to go along with Dennis' rule and forcing Dennis out because of it.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:32 am
by SuiteMadameBlue
Okie Dokie - I don't have "Too Much Time On My Hands" this afternoon to find everything. I have a TON of articles on hard copy. I'll try to find the sites that everyone can view. Here is one of the articles that Monker is talking about:

http://www.popstops.net/styx.htm

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STYX

Reunites to restage Paradise Theatre show

By John Everson


It's been a dozen years since the full cast of Styx hit the stage together, but starting May 21st in Michigan (coming to Tinley Park's World Theatre on June 14), the full band of Dennis DeYoung, Tommy Shaw, James Young and John and Chuck Panozzo are returning to the road for 56-city summer tour.

But this isn't just any old reunion tour of canned hits. In an interview last month, DeYoung revealed that the band is pulling out the stops and revisiting one of their best concepts and tours: this summer's reunion tour will be titled "The Return To The Paradise Theatre."

"Hey, if they can do revivals of shows in the theatre, why not in rock?" DeYoung asks, noting that the old sets are being polished off and rebuilt for the show. DeYoung, Shaw and Young made the rounds of Chicago radio and TV outlets last week to announce the reunion. Tickets for the World Theatre show went on sale in April.

The south side Chicago quintet had a phenomenal run of multiplatinum albums in the late '70s, chalking up hits like "Babe," "Lady," "Come Sail Away," and "Renegade," through a string of classics like 1977's The Grand Illusion, 1978's Pieces of Eight and 1979's Cornerstone. The following year brought one of the band's most popular pieces, the concept album Paradise Theatre, which yielded two top 10 hits in DeYoung's "The Best of Times" and Shaw's "Too Much Time On My Hands." In 1983 Styx released Kilroy Was Here, another concept album which found the band playing the tour as if it were a stage show: they performed the entire concert in stage "roles" and even shot a short film played before concerts dramatizing the album's conceit — that the "musical majority" had banned rock 'n' roll.

Following the grueling Kilroy tour, the band took time off for solo projects. DeYoung hit big with the title track from his Desert Moon, and Shaw did the same with Girls With Guns. James Young also released a hard rock album with Jan Hammer. But DeYoung's and Shaw's subsequent solo projects didn't find the chart acceptance of their initial forays, and eventually Shaw joined Damn Yankees with Ted Nugent and Nightranger's Jack Blades. DeYoung called Styx back together for 1990's Edge of the Century, but Shaw's commitment to Damn Yankees kept him from the project. Glen Burtnik stepped in to fill the gap, and the revived, Shawless Styx placed two more top 40 hits before going back into hibernation while DeYoung took to the stage in a different role: as Pontius Pilate in the long-running revival of Jesus Christ Superstar.

"We've been trying to do this since 1990," DeYoung admits of the reunion with Shaw. "When Tommy was ready, I had a solo album to finish, and then he got in Damn Yankees and that was the end of it. But then last fall when we released the Greatest Hits album, we did a few TV appearances with me, Tommy and JY and all the agencies started calling to see if we were back together. So we talked about it. People really seemed to want to see these guys together!"

DeYoung was finishing the staging of Q-Modo, a musical he wrote based on The Hunchback of Notre Dame, over the winter (the soundtrack for the as-yet unopened show may be available to purchase at the band's shows this summer). But in February, he signed on to the concept of pulling Styx back together for a full-blown tour. The band also recorded two new songs, both co-written by former Stygian, Burtnik.

"Even when Styx was at the height of its fame, I don't think I've ever been this busy," DeYoung laughs, describing the hasty preparations for the tour, the recording of the two new songs, and the preparations for bringing his Q-Modo to the stage sometime in the next year. "But I can't tell you how exciting this is. That people still want to see these guys...still amazes me."

DeYoung sounds psyched about the new songs the reformed band has recorded, both of which will be available on a Greatest Hits Part II set in June. He watches for my reaction (positive) as he pops in a tape and previews the first new song, "Little Susie," a blues-rock jam that turns up the guitars louder than the band has since the mid-'70s. It's a lyrical rhythmfest sung by Shaw, and should do well for the band at rock radio (though, admittedly, not on Q-101!). The other new track, "It Takes Love To Make Love," is a perfect pop vocal exercise for the band that proved that three-part harmonies were meant to go with rock 'n' roll.

"We made some good music and it was a pleasurable experience to do it," enthuses DeYoung. "Let's face it," he adds. "When certain people are in a room, they do something different from anyone else."

Does this revived enthusiasm for working with the full Styx mean an entire album of new material may follow the tour?

"Absolutely," DeYoung nods. "We'll let the hits album come out and do the tour...and then make decisions on where we'll go."

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:42 am
by sadie65
I see. Thanks for making that so clear. Of course, any person who has a contract to honor, they should apparently not honor it and reunite and forget the record company to which they made the contract?

You know, Dennis has certainly made his fair share of mistakes, and can/is certainly arrogant, but please. Tommy has also done his fair share of things to hurt the band. Walking out on the band comes to mind.

Yes, Tommy initated the reunion. Good for him. Perhaps the all too human element of anger and frustration on Dennis' part got in the way. Don't know. Isn't relevant. The "fact" is TS did voluntarily walk away. Great he wanted to reunite. Too bad it didn't work out. Dennis didn't walk out. They all have said he asked for more time. Certainly they are allowed to feel he cried wolf. But it is a "fact" he asked for more time and was denied by his band mates.

We all have our OPINIONS. Let's not keep debating this. Truth and emotion conflict each other here. And in the end, it won't change how people feel about the split in terms of right and wrong.

In terms of not letting things go amongst the fans, there have been 2 threads now in which people have tried to address things outside of the split. Yes there are those who poke fun (myself included) but apparently, if we do that, we aren't letting go of the DDY vs. Styx thing. Thank goodness we have you to show us the way!!! Oh yes, I'm just poking fun.

In both cases people have also tried to get the thread back on track. I would love to answer Yogi's question and discuss WTH. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to listen to it.

And again, I wish Mr. Burtnick well with his career.

Peace,

Sadie

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:43 am
by bugsymalone
This is just a misrepresentation of what happened between Tommy and Styx during Edge/DY.


Not what I was talking about at ALL. I was talking about 1983, after the Kilory tour. Tommy left voluntarily. This past year, Glen left voluntarily. 1999, Dennis did NOT leave voluntarily.

All I am saying on THAT subject.


Do ANY of you feel the same about these songs and what I have written????


And back to the subject at hand. I have not heard the CD, but what you say certainly could have a ring of truth to it, Yogi. Glen's songwriting, from what I have heard, seems to be very observational. Including on the EOTC album.

Bugsy

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:15 am
by yogi
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Finally, this is a CD you will LOVE on the very first listen. It's that DAMN GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:27 am
by Adam
I think Glen played a solo show in New York this past weekend. Was anyone reading this there? I wonder what songs he plays.

Re: A SECOND TAKE ON WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:10 am
by yogi
Read the article that Suite posted.

Re: A SECOND TAKE ON WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD

PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:41 am
by ztyxlynne
Funny. I just put the CD in today and it is awesome. I wish he would do another one. Evert Styx album he was on he made a huge impact. Just don't know why he wants to be in a ELO cover band. I would love to see him tour with Dennis and I was hoping there was a small change he would of been on DDY last album. I was at the Milwaukee show in for Edge and I don't remember any booing. And I was in the 2nd or 3rd row. He put on a hell of a show.