Fire Makes Steel vs. Reach

[Eyeof]

Which do you guys find more enjoyable?

I understand that Reach is obviously better quality (I'm talking about the albums not the songs).

But the FMS demos are just so much deeper in song quality song volumn.

Let's look at it...

1. Someone else's sleeples night
2. No boundaries
3. Innocence of love
4. That's what it feels like to fall
5. Rebel girl 98
6. Everything turns on you
7. Give it up
8. Feel the memories
9. Fire makes steel
10. Nevertheless
11. Jessica
12. The love we never made
13. Seconds away
14. Lies

Vs.

1. Reach
2. Fire Makes Steel
3. Nevertheless*
4. Seconds Away
5. One MOre Change
6. Gimmie The World
7. Rhythm Of Your Heart
8. I Don't
9. Half Of My Heart
10. Talkin' 'Bout Love*
11. Don't Give Up
12. Home


So let's say that Nevertheless is a throwaway, as it's about the same...I way prefer the older version of FMS, it's grittier. I also like Seconds Away a little more from FMS, as I like what they did with the Guitar, but that might be a toss up.

I'm not sure Lies is Survivor and not Frankie and Rebel Girl is an older song.

From FMS, I would say I really love:

Someone Else's Sleepless Night, That's What it Feels Like, Jessica, The Love we never made, and Everything turns on You.

Strip for me is a bit strange, but the sound is Classic Survivor.

I just like the overall sound of the record...

From Reach, two of the best songs (FMS and Seconds) are FMS hold overs.

I do like "I don't" a good bit as well. Reach without a question is classic Survivor and sounds good and unlike most people, I actually like Home. The rest to me is filler...Some of it's okay, but it just fails to stand out...

What do you guys thing?

[silvergirl66]

Hey EyeOf, Check this one out on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/SURVIVOR-Fire-Makes ... 0005887438
It has 16 songs, the demo I have is missing One Step Ahead and Strip For Me, but I've heard those songs. I love my FMS demos, though I must have the crappiest version out there. There's a big hole/skip in FMS! Is yours that way? I like both versions of FMS, even my bad one and tend to lean more towards Dave's version. I'm wondering if this one on ebay is much cleaner. I really like One More Chance, it was co-writen by FS and DB. It's probably my fav off of Reach along with FMS. Rhythm of your Heart sounds like a song JP would sing, I like it and Don't Give Up. One of my very favs off the demo is Innocence of Love and Feel the memories, even though it really doesn't sound like Survivor, just like it!! Dave's I Don't is better off the two. I tend to listen to my demo more (even though it's terrible quality). I am very thankful to have the Reach cd, I never thought we'd get it.

[MarcelJordan]

Rebelgirl, does Snafrovivrus ring a bell to you? Im an old Survivor well, net groupie from Asia. Any news from Jamie Evers? Hope you know her.

[Red13JoePa]

I'll roll w/ REACH....better over than FMS but they definately should've finished Some Else's Sleepless Night with the Reach lineup and put it on the record.

[Eyeof]

For the heck of it and the fact we are bored...

let's open up the Reach vs. FMS debate again!