Arnel - a good fit for Journey???

[Eric]

I have a 34 inch waist

I'm 38. Why you gotta call me fat!

[Jeremey]

I'm 38. Why you gotta call me fat!

Hey man, I'm in no position to throw stones! I always thought pushups were something you bought from the ice cream truck.

[conversationpc]

PS, StringsofJoy, apologies accepted, and for the record, Chris Cornell would have been my number one choice to front Journey had they decided to go the Paul Rogers/Queen route, though Journey and Cornell would tear each other to bits.

Cornell is an amazing singer.

[ohsherrie]

God forbid the lad has to deal with some of the right wing zealots who've made their feelings known on his origins and birthplace.

Leftists are just as apt and, in my opinion, even more likely than "right wing zealots" to be bigoted. In other words, kiss my ass.

Yeah, and this moderate Leftist's too.

I don't like Arnel for Journey. I don't like the way he sings the songs. I don't like his performances on stage that I've seen on YouTube. I don't think he looks the part of a rock 'n roll frontman. It has not one damned thing to do with his origins or birthplace. I has to do with what I want to see and hear in a frontman for my favorite band.

[conversationpc]

I don't like Arnel for Journey. I don't like the way he sings the songs. I don't like his performances on stage that I've seen on YouTube. I don't think he looks the part of a rock 'n roll frontman. It has not one damned thing to do with his origins or birthplace. I has to do with what I want to see and hear in a frontman for my favorite band.

Exactly...Racism pimps like FyreWyngz be damned.

[Matthew]

Exactly...Racism pimps like FyreWyngz be damned.

I'd love to know what would be considered racist on this forum. I've heard every excuse and rationale in the book lately...

[Rick]

Exactly...Racism pimps like FyreWyngz be damned.

I'd love to know what would be considered racist on this forum. I've heard every excuse and rationale in the book lately...

What's considered racist depends on the offended. Normally it would be not hiring someone because of their nationality. That's racist. Not hiring a singer because he isn't an American isn't racist, it's just being patriotic. Not hiring a singer because he's a Filipino is racist.

[Matthew]

Not hiring a singer because he isn't an American isn't racist, it's just being patriotic. .

By American you mean 'passport holder'...because your country is a right old hotch-potch of races and cultures. Would you feel differently if Arnel had a US passport?

[Rick]

Not hiring a singer because he isn't an American isn't racist, it's just being patriotic. .

By American you mean 'passport holder'...because your country is a right old hotch-potch of races and cultures. Would you feel differently if Arnel had a US passport?

I mean a U.S. citizen. That's not necessarily my opinion on it, I'm just saying that it's not racist.

[Calbear94]

That's not necessarily my opinion on it, I'm just saying that it's not racist.

It's not? If the guy can sing, if he has the vocal caliber that we come to expect from a lead singer of Journey, then why not hire him?

There are some who have said in their honest opinion Arnel does not sing well enough. I can respect this kind of opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But, to say he has a great voice, yet object to his hiring because he is Filipino or "not American" is allowing a sense of cultural superiority to supercede considerations of talent, which is unfair and indeed "un-American."

[Rick]

That's not necessarily my opinion on it, I'm just saying that it's not racist.

It's not? If the guy can sing, if he has the vocal caliber that we come to expect from a lead singer of Journey, then why not hire him?

There are some who have said in their honest opinion Arnel does not sing well enough. I can respect this kind of opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But, to say he has a great voice, yet object to his hiring because he is Filipino or "not American" is allowing a sense of cultural superiority to supercede considerations of talent, which is unfair and indeed "un-American."

Oh I see. It's ok for people to say they only buy American cars. They wouldn't be caught dead in a Japanese car or German car, and that's not racist, it's being patriotic. But to say someone should only hire an American singer is racist? You need to reread the definition of racism. Racism is saying you wouldn't hire a Filipino because he's a Filipino. Saying that someone should hire and American singer to front an American band is NOT racist.

[AR]

That's not necessarily my opinion on it, I'm just saying that it's not racist.

It's not? If the guy can sing, if he has the vocal caliber that we come to expect from a lead singer of Journey, then why not hire him?

There are some who have said in their honest opinion Arnel does not sing well enough. I can respect this kind of opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But, to say he has a great voice, yet object to his hiring because he is Filipino or "not American" is allowing a sense of cultural superiority to supercede considerations of talent, which is unfair and indeed "un-American."

Oh I see. It's ok for people to say they only buy American cars. They wouldn't be caught dead in a Japanese car or German car, and that's not racist, it's being patriotic. But to say someone should only hire an American singer is racist? You need to reread the definition of racism. Racism is saying you wouldn't hire a Filipino because he's a Filipino. Saying that someone should hire and American singer to front an American band is NOT racist.

I do not recall Filipino to be a race anyway.

This dude is a decent karoake singer, and has no stage presence.

[Calbear94]

I don't see why the singer of an American band has to be an American. Toto is an American band that once had a Dutchman as its lead singer. Doesn't a singer sing? Why does nationality have to be a necessary qualification. Not only is America a country of immigrants, but its economy is based on capitalism. The job should go to the most qualified singer available, regardless of national origin.

[Rick]

I don't see why the singer of an American band has to be an American. Toto is an American band that once had a Dutchman as its lead singer. Doesn't a singer sing? Why does nationality have to be a necessary qualification. Not only is America a country of immigrants, but its economy is based on capitalism. The job should go to the most qualified singer available, regardless of national origin.

I agree, for me it doesn't matter what nationality the singer is, I was just stating an opinion on racism. I get sick of hearing people cry racism when someone says they should hire an American singer. Me, I couldn't care less. Journey is dead to me anyway.

[Calbear94]

This dude is a decent karoake singer, and has no stage presence.

OK, you don't like the way he sings, or what he does on stage. That's fine.

[AR]

The guy sucks and has no stage presence. The lemmings think he is the 2nd coming and it's so desperate.

If this guy could do a dead on "Steve Perry" would it be racist to say he doesn't fit?



"Image is everything".

Anyone who threw the race card around, I really want to punch you right in your fucking mouth.

[Rick]

The guy sucks and has no stage presence. The lemmings think he is the 2nd coming and it's so desperate.

If this guy could do a dead on "Steve Perry" would it be racist to say he doesn't fit?



"Image is everything".

Anyone who threw the race card around, I really want to punch you right in your fucking mouth.

I think you'd have to punch a few, it sure is sickening to hear that shit though. I have nothing against other nationalities as singers. I love many bands from other countries. I could make a list, but it would be time consuming and I'm drunk and lazy.

[Saint John]

That's not necessarily my opinion on it, I'm just saying that it's not racist.

It's not? If the guy can sing, if he has the vocal caliber that we come to expect from a lead singer of Journey, then why not hire him?

There are some who have said in their honest opinion Arnel does not sing well enough. I can respect this kind of opinion, even if I don't agree with it. But, to say he has a great voice, yet object to his hiring because he is Filipino or "not American" is allowing a sense of cultural superiority to supercede considerations of talent, which is unfair and indeed "un-American."

Oh I see. It's ok for people to say they only buy American cars. They wouldn't be caught dead in a Japanese car or German car, and that's not racist, it's being patriotic. But to say someone should only hire an American singer is racist? You need to reread the definition of racism. Racism is saying you wouldn't hire a Filipino because he's a Filipino. Saying that someone should hire and American singer to front an American band is NOT racist.

I agree 100% Rick. It's all about preference, nothing more. "Talent" is only part of it. Why is that so fucking hard for people to understand? People prefer artists based on MANY thing...talent being one of them. There's physical appearance, stage presence, voice, emotive skills, improvisation and intangibles. People that throw the term "racist" around are nothing more than ckunts. Anyone that accuses of another of being racist over their preference of a singer should be hit in the back of the head with baseball bat.

[SubliminalRacist]

Forumer #1 : Mexican, you are very good with your hands. Would you build me my house?

Forumer #2 : Filipino, you are very compassionate. Would you take care of my old fellows?

Journey : Arnel, you have a great voice and sounds incredible singing Journey songs. Would you like to front our band?

Forumer #1 and #2 : That's bullshit!@#$%! Journey is an all "American" band. He sounds like Jackie Chan and is not a good fit for Journey! blah..blah..blah..I'm not racist...blah..blah

[AR]

Forumer #1 : Mexican, you are very good with your hands. Would you build me my house?

Forumer #2 : Filipino, you are very compassionate. Would you take care of my old fellows?

Journey : Arnel, you have a great voice and sounds incredible singing Journey songs. Would you like to front our band?

Forumer #1 and #2 : That's bullshit!@#$%! Journey is an all "American" band. He sounds like Jackie Chan and is not a good fit for Journey! blah..blah..blah..I'm not racist...blah..blah

You suck dick, Arnel sounds like a runner up on American Idol. Not good and no stage presence. I like his musical taste of songs though. Now blow me.

Keep trying newbies, I'm not backing down. Throwing the "racist" card around is lazy and lame. It's called stage presence and "the look". This Zoo lead singer is lame - sorry. I'd pay to see him in a club for 5 bucks since he plays some good songs, but not in an ampitheater fronting a band I grew up listening to.

JSS is Hispanic, no complaints - the perfect choice.

Shut the fuck up already.

[yak]

So many newbies this week. Is there a full moon?

Anybody with the screen name "Subliminal Racist" shouldn't post here. Seriously, is "Subliminal Racist the best/only thing you could come up with?

Arnel sucks, plain and simple, you dope addict!

[AR]

So many newbies this week. Is there a full moon?

Anybody with the screen name "Subliminal Racist" shouldn't post here. Seriously, is "Subliminal Racist the best/only thing you could come up with?

Arnel sucks, plain and simple, you dope addict!

Exactly yak!

[Saint John]

Forumer #1 : Mexican, you are very good with your hands. Would you build me my house?

Forumer #2 : Filipino, you are very compassionate. Would you take care of my old fellows?

Journey : Arnel, you have a great voice and sounds incredible singing Journey songs. Would you like to front our band?

Forumer #1 and #2 : That's bullshit!@#$%! Journey is an all "American" band. He sounds like Jackie Chan and is not a good fit for Journey! blah..blah..blah..I'm not racist...blah..blah

Wherever you're at, I hope a tsunami levels your hut.

[SubliminalRacist]

see? true colors shining through

[Saint John]

see? true colors shining through

Go away fuckhead.

[Rick]

Forumer #1 : Mexican, you are very good with your hands. Would you build me my house?

Forumer #2 : Filipino, you are very compassionate. Would you take care of my old fellows?

Journey : Arnel, you have a great voice and sounds incredible singing Journey songs. Would you like to front our band?

Forumer #1 and #2 : That's bullshit!@#$%! Journey is an all "American" band. He sounds like Jackie Chan and is not a good fit for Journey! blah..blah..blah..I'm not racist...blah..blah

It isn't about race you ignorant asshole, it's about preference. When did those two become one?

[Rick]

see? true colors shining through

Go away fuckhead.

He will. I'll bet he's banned before dawn. If not, I'll run it up his ass on his every post.

[SubliminalRacist]

Why feel so guilty when you have nothing to be guilty of?

[Rick]

Why feel so guilty when you have nothing to be guilty of?

Where do I exhibit guilt?

Fuck off peckerhead.

[SubliminalRacist]

Why feel so guilty when you have nothing to be guilty of?

Where do I exhibit guilt?

Fuck off peckerhead.

hmmm I dont remember mentioning your name in my post.

and by the way, thank u guys for your very kind words.