Perry, Sony, Solo vs. Jrny and the TBF Fall Out

[NoMoreTails]

What was Herbie doing? He was promoting his other clients who wanted to work...Mr Big, who made it big, and also Roxette, who also made it big. Journey wasn't doing anything, because a certain member didn't feel like working. Herbie has an outstanding reputation and report card. When his clients worked, Herbie took them to the top, and no one can dispute that.

Fair enough. I forgot about his success with Roxette and Mr Big. Was was Azoff's track record like leading up to the Joureney reunion? I must check that out...

Herbie also managed the Storm who would have been huge pre-grunge era and Neal's solo efforts, pretty successful by Higher Octave standards and of course making more $ with Nocturne than he did with all his musical acts put together.

Regarding the earlier statement about Chalfont and Augeri not connecting with the masses, Augeri and Soto have both been widely accepted by concert goers. As far as album sales, you can't fairly compare the post-Perry era's success to what it could have been in the mid-late 80s. Any of the three of these guys and others could have been successful. Lets not forget that except for the success of Oh Sherry the "masses" wouldn't know Perry's name anymore than they know Neal or Jon's.

[Rockindeano]

Nice diversion from the topic. If you have nothing to contribute to this fight, don't bother participating.

"Only he knows." Give me a fucking break. I am here to expose that fucker. You all want me to go after perry like I did with Tapegate? Didn't think so.

[Rockindeano]

Dean, what in the world are you talking about!? If people like Perry then they "hate" current Journey? that's ridiculous! Neal and the boys are still making money off of Perry, they don't care if we still like him-they want us to talk about and buy the Reissues.....Who on here is blasting Neal and Jon? its not a competition between old and new Journey, its a discussion board...can't we discuss? Why are you hell bent on bashing Perry, we get it=you don't like him, you think he screwed the band=we got it!....We need a poll....geez!

You need to do your homework. Go back the last 2 years and read this Board. Maybe then you will understand.

Perryfaithful, HOTS, Sherrie, PROPERRY and others live to bash Journey.


You are way over your head here.


I am not Hell bent on bashing Perry. I didn't start this thread. Perhaps the question is, why are the Loons so Hell bent on bashing Neal and the band? THAT is the fair question.

[SteveForever]

Dean, what in the world are you talking about!? If people like Perry then they "hate" current Journey? that's ridiculous! Neal and the boys are still making money off of Perry, they don't care if we still like him-they want us to talk about and buy the Reissues.....Who on here is blasting Neal and Jon? its not a competition between old and new Journey, its a discussion board...can't we discuss? Why are you hell bent on bashing Perry, we get it=you don't like him, you think he screwed the band=we got it!....We need a poll....geez!

You need to do your homework. Go back the last 2 years and read this Board. Maybe then you will understand.

Perryfaithful, HOTS, Sherrie, PROPERRY and others live to bash Journey.


You are way over your head here.


I am not Hell bent on bashing Perry. I didn't start this thread. Perhaps the question is, why are the Loons so Hell bent on bashing Neal and the band? THAT is the fair question.

You go into any thread that has Perry's name on hit and bash him, not just this one Dean.

[treetopovskaya]

i LOVE journey (neal, ross, jon... etc) ... love love love me some jss! love sp! it's all good. }:C))





tehehee!

[Rockindeano]

You go into any thread that has Perry's name on hit and bash him, not just this one Dean.

I NEVER bash him based on his singing. He was the best ever. Not one of the best, but the best. I am just getting sick of all you worshipping him. Fucking Nora and her gay "Re issue threads" and "If Only For the Moment Girl, OMG,OMG,OMG" crap. Gimme a fucking break.

A REISSUE? That is cause to celebrate? Now Nora thinks he hasn't lost his voice and is thinking he re did the vox on the reissues. What the fuck!

[SteveForever]

You go into any thread that has Perry's name on hit and bash him, not just this one Dean.

I NEVER bash him based on his singing. He was the best ever. Not one of the best, but the best. I am just getting sick of all you worshipping him. Fucking Nora and her gay "Re issue threads" and "If Only For the Moment Girl, OMG,OMG,OMG" crap. Gimme a fucking break.

A REISSUE? That is cause to celebrate? Now Nora thinks he hasn't lost his voice and is thinking he re did the vox on the reissues. What the fuck!

What's it to you?! you are getting "sick" of it, please.

[Matthew]

Of course the Perry bitches supported me...They HATE current Journey because their beloved god is not a part of it.

Well, Deano - you were sweetness and light to everyone on Perryville. I didn't see you taking about "Perryhead bitches" on that site. Are you saying you secretly felt contempt for the women on that board whilst you were trying to charm them?

Hell, I basically received love letters telling me how great I was, and what a great thing I was doing.

I bet you did.

Tapegate HAD to come tolight, because Journey is better than that, and the results have proven they are much better now than last year.

Absolutely.

The Perry Heads have NOTHING to advocate except Re-issues and blasting Neal and Jon.

Well, that's changing I think. Most Perry Heads are supporting the JSS line-up.

Like I said, this board is becoming BT ish and too fucking cheery.

Deano - you are the most "cheery" when it comes to the new line-up and your enthusiasm is catching. I wouldn't worry about this site 'going gay' as a result.

I welcome the new Perry v Journey War again..That is an arena where I truly shine. I love wiping the floor with all their slimy fat asses.

This time around you might not have as many takers. Perryheads despised the presence of Augeri in the band. Now that JSS is in the old hatreds will probably fade away pretty quickly.

[NoMoreTails]

"Only he knows." Give me a fucking break. I am here to expose that fucker. You all want me to go after perry like I did with Tapegate? Didn't think so.

I'd like to see it myself, this would be a bigger fight than any that went on during tapegate. Give em hell.

Deano's right about the long time Perryheads from this board, they only supported him because they think Journey has no right to carry on without Perry. They've always wanted to see the Augeri era fail, no way they've have ever backed Deano on anything else and any support they've shown for JSS/Journey is false as they think and hope it will fail as well.

[treetopovskaya]

Dean, what in the world are you talking about!? If people like Perry then they "hate" current Journey? that's ridiculous! Neal and the boys are still making money off of Perry, they don't care if we still like him-they want us to talk about and buy the Reissues.....Who on here is blasting Neal and Jon? its not a competition between old and new Journey, its a discussion board...can't we discuss? Why are you hell bent on bashing Perry, we get it=you don't like him, you think he screwed the band=we got it!....We need a poll....geez!

You need to do your homework. Go back the last 2 years and read this Board. Maybe then you will understand.

Perryfaithful, HOTS, Sherrie, PROPERRY and others live to bash Journey.


You are way over your head here.


I am not Hell bent on bashing Perry. I didn't start this thread. Perhaps the question is, why are the Loons so Hell bent on bashing Neal and the band? THAT is the fair question.

okie i had my coffee but still feeling tired so i'll prolly be going back to bed soon... did i miss something? i don't remember reading anyone bashing jounrey.

wt?

journey! whateva! }:CP

[Matthew]

"Only he knows." Give me a fucking break. I am here to expose that fucker. You all want me to go after perry like I did with Tapegate? Didn't think so.

I'd like to see it myself, this would be a bigger fight than any that went on during tapegate. Give em hell.

Sounds like a lot of hot air and bluster to me. But if I'm wrong...go ahead...get on with it...make the accusation that can rival Tapegate.

[SteveForever]

"Only he knows." Give me a fucking break. I am here to expose that fucker. You all want me to go after perry like I did with Tapegate? Didn't think so.

I'd like to see it myself, this would be a bigger fight than any that went on during tapegate. Give em hell.

Deano's right about the long time Perryheads from this board, they only supported him because they think Journey has no right to carry on without Perry. They've always wanted to see the Augeri era fail, no way they've have ever backed Deano on anything else and any support they've shown for JSS/Journey is false as they think and hope it will fail as well.

Listen my brotha...don't want to fight with you, but how do you know this? they've told you this? I love Steve Perry, did not adore or admire Augeri, but liked his stuff, and I think JSS is cool-where lies the problem? I don't see any of these people on here right now that you are referring to....

[Rockindeano]

Well, Deano - you were sweetness and light to everyone on Perryville. I didn't see you taking about "Perryhead bitches" on that site. Are you saying you secretly felt contempt for the women on that board whilst you were trying to charm them?

I liked that site. Everyone on THERE, was cool. My beef is with the 4 posters here, and now the few new ones who can't control their libidos.

Well, that's changing I think. Most Perry Heads are supporting the JSS line-up.

So you admit it.

Deano - you are the most "cheery" when it comes to the new line-up and your enthusiasm is catching. I wouldn't worry about this site 'going gay' as a result.

Yep, damned straight. However, I have some insight, some knowledge about real stuff happening. I am excited based on factual knowledge, not guessing on "reissues" or "practicing scales." My enthusiasm is as real as it gets.

This time around you might not have as many takers. Perryheads despised the presence of Augeri in the band. Now that JSS is in the old hatreds will probably fade away pretty quickly.

There won't be as many takers because there is much less to bash. JSS led/fronted Journey kicks major ass. Not much weakness to try to exploit. They are all great musicians and guess what, they have a singer now, too.

[SteveForever]

I liked that site. Everyone on THERE, was cool. My beef is with the 4 posters here, and now the few new ones who can't control their libidos.


Control their libidos? hmmm, that is interesting wording. I can't think of anyone else on here that posts more stuff about sex than you? We are ONLY allowed to talk about Jeff, is that it? I know he's your friend but come on dude.

[Rockindeano]

"Only he knows." Give me a fucking break. I am here to expose that fucker. You all want me to go after perry like I did with Tapegate? Didn't think so.

I'd like to see it myself, this would be a bigger fight than any that went on during tapegate. Give em hell.

Deano's right about the long time Perryheads from this board, they only supported him because they think Journey has no right to carry on without Perry. They've always wanted to see the Augeri era fail, no way they've have ever backed Deano on anything else and any support they've shown for JSS/Journey is false as they think and hope it will fail as well.

Listen my brotha...don't want to fight with you, but how do you know this? they've told you this? I love Steve Perry, did not adore or admire Augeri, but liked his stuff, and I think JSS is cool-where lies the problem? I don't see any of these people on here right now that you are referring to....

Like I said, they are here, go read about them.

The ranking of top Perry Bitches:

1) HOTS- The absolute skankiest bitch here. Nothing good to say EVER about Neal and the Band. A complete waste of web space.

2) Perryfaithful- Always talks a good game, but never has anything to bring to the table. Always stirring up shit for the sake of stirring up shit.

3) PROPERRY- She is too stupid to warrant a no. 1 or 2 ranking. Just a bling cheerleader who will love Perry no matter how much of an asshole he is.

4) Sherrie- She is ok, not a bad person at all, but is blinded too.


Go search these names and read the wars we have had. I would welcome a new round of fighting in a heartbeat, because I know I can't lose.

[Matthew]

Well, Deano - you were sweetness and light to everyone on Perryville. I didn't see you taking about "Perryhead bitches" on that site. Are you saying you secretly felt contempt for the women on that board whilst you were trying to charm them?

I liked that site. Everyone on THERE, was cool. My beef is with the 4 posters here, and now the few new ones who can't control their libidos.

Ah..okay. I didn't realise you were being specific about individuals.

. So you admit it.

Admit that Perryheads didn't support the Augeri line-up? Absolutely. I hated that era of the band.

Yep, damned straight. However, I have some insight, some knowledge about real stuff happening. I am excited based on factual knowledge, not guessing on "reissues" or "practicing scales." My enthusiasm is as real as it gets.

I know you do - and I believe your enthusiasm is real. However...you have beeen making a few puzzling comments recently which has made me wonder whether or not your honesty is being compromised at the moment.

There won't be as many takers because there is much less to bash.

Exactly.

JSS led/fronted Journey kicks major ass. Not much weakness to try to exploit. They are all great musicians and guess what, they have a singer now, too.

I'm taking your word for it. I've bought the tickets for the Journey show next year and I'm much looking forward to it.

[Rockindeano]

Matthew, I have hope for you yet. If you changed that location from London to say, Spokane or Billings, I would actually like you

[Matthew]

Matthew, I have hope for you yet. If you changed that location from London to say, Spokane or Billings, I would actually like you

WHERE is Spokane and Billings?

[Rockindeano]

Matthew, I have hope for you yet. If you changed that location from London to say, Spokane or Billings, I would actually like you

WHERE is Spokane and Billings?

America, or NOT the UK.

[Deb]

Of course the Perry bitches supported me...They HATE current Journey because their beloved god is not a part of it. Hell, I basically received love letters telling me how great I was, and what a great thing I was doing. Screw that. Tapegate HAD to come tolight, because Journey is better than that, and the results have proven they are much better now than last year. I HATED Tapegate, but someone had to do it. The Perry Heads have NOTHING to advocate except Re-issues and blasting Neal and Jon.

That is pathetic. To bash Journey because "your guy" is no longer in the mix is absolutely pitiful, especially when he quit on them.

Like I said, this board is becoming BT ish and too fucking cheery. I welcome the new Perry v Journey War again..That is an arena where I truly shine. I love wiping the floor with all their slimy fat asses.

You are so f***in dead wrong on that it isn't even funny.

[Rockindeano]

Of course the Perry bitches supported me...They HATE current Journey because their beloved god is not a part of it. Hell, I basically received love letters telling me how great I was, and what a great thing I was doing. Screw that. Tapegate HAD to come tolight, because Journey is better than that, and the results have proven they are much better now than last year. I HATED Tapegate, but someone had to do it. The Perry Heads have NOTHING to advocate except Re-issues and blasting Neal and Jon.

That is pathetic. To bash Journey because "your guy" is no longer in the mix is absolutely pitiful, especially when he quit on them.

Like I said, this board is becoming BT ish and too fucking cheery. I welcome the new Perry v Journey War again..That is an arena where I truly shine. I love wiping the floor with all their slimy fat asses.

You are so f***in dead wrong on that it isn't even funny.

Really? Care to engage?

[TRAGChick]

Fucking Nora and her gay "Re issue threads" and "If Only For the Moment Girl, OMG,OMG,OMG" crap. Gimme a fucking break. A REISSUE? That is cause to celebrate? Now Nora thinks he hasn't lost his voice and is thinking he re did the vox on the reissues. What the fuck!

....and to think just a few days ago I was "a cool chick" & Deano wanted to strip for me on my Birthday

Oh the humanity....

[Rockindeano]

I DO like you Nora, but your recent posts are kinda gay.

[TRAGChick]

I DO like you Nora, but your recent posts are kinda gay.

And am I holding a GUN to your head to read them?

[Rockindeano]

I DO like you Nora, but your recent posts are kinda gay.

And am I holding a GUN to your head to read them?

It is MY duty to read each and every post

[TRAGChick]

I DO like you Nora, but your recent posts are kinda gay.

And am I holding a GUN to your head to read them?

It is MY duty to read each and every post

Well alrighty then...

[NoMoreTails]

Listen my brotha...don't want to fight with you, but how do you know this? they've told you this? I love Steve Perry, did not adore or admire Augeri, but liked his stuff, and I think JSS is cool-where lies the problem? I don't see any of these people on here right now that you are referring to....

I'm not talking about you or any of the others who have joined in the last few months, in fact I hadn't kept up with your posts enough to get a feeling if "Steveforever" meant Perry or Augeri or just so its somebody named Steve. I'm talking about the Perry-only long timers here that Deano went on the mention. Their posts over the last couple fo years have always reflected that they think as Perry does, Journey without Perry is not Journey--only they take it a bit further. They think Journey has no right to continue without Perry, which Journey certainly does as Perry himself agreed.

[treetopovskaya]

when will the past be the past? can't we just enjoy the present & the possible future? can we just let sp live his life in peace without bashing him... move on already that's all i'm saying. }:C) i'm going back to bed.

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzZZz

[Rockindeano]

when will the past be the past? can't we just enjoy the present & the possible future? can we just let sp live his life in peace without bashing him... move on already that's all i'm saying. }:C) i'm going back to bed.

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzZZz

Exactly. Like I said, I am not the author of this thread.

[Deb]

They HATE current Journey because their beloved god is not a part of it.

You are so f***in dead wrong on that it isn't even funny.

Really? Care to engage?[/quote}

Ya, I didn't hate the Augeri Journey.......truthfully, SA Journey just didn't do anything for me and (yes we agree on the 1 fact that JSS is bringing fire back to Journey) so your opinion on Augeri or JSS (and especially Perry) and/or tapegate really have no bearing on MY opinion of frontmen.

BTW, does it get under your skin that JSS respects the f*** outta Perry......or you going to try to change his tune too?

Another thing, you're the only one who is allowed to have a libido around here, f*** that.