Republican Debate

[conversationpc]

Dude, that avatar gives me nightmares.

Dude, your avatar gives EVERYONE nightmares. Don't change it, though.

[Rockindeano]

Dude, that avatar gives me nightmares.

Dude, your avatar gives EVERYONE nightmares. Don't change it, though.

I was actually talking about Rippens...that euro with his tongue hanging out freaks me to the bone.

[bluejeangirl76]

Yeah. That was pretty fucking convenient timing, wasn't it? I never thought I could be more surprised and appalled by this country as a whole than I was that day...

...because when the vote counting starts to go one way, our own government can just say "Ok, enough of that counting shit... we want this guy to win..."

Even liberal CNN isn't dumb enough to believe that. http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/florid ... /main.html

Okay, the same article says this:

Study reveals flaws in ballots, voter errors may have cost Gore victory...

As well as attempting to discern voter intent in ballots that might have been re-examined had the recount gone forward, the study also looked at the possible effect of poor ballot design, voter error and malfunctioning machines. That secondary analysis suggests that more Florida voters may have gone to the polls intending to vote for Democrat Al Gore but failed to cast a valid vote.

If indeed Bush won by a few hundred votes, votes that they believe were intended for Gore - then it seems like the only ones who are stupid are the ones who couldn't read the ballots correctly and voted for someone other than they intended to.

[conversationpc]

Dude, that avatar gives me nightmares.

Dude, your avatar gives EVERYONE nightmares. Don't change it, though.

I was actually talking about Rippens...that euro with his tongue hanging out freaks me to the bone.

Yeah, I know. Anyway, I believe that's Don Dokken, who is not a Euro.

[conversationpc]

Okay, the same article says this:

Study reveals flaws in ballots, voter errors may have cost Gore victory...

As well as attempting to discern voter intent in ballots that might have been re-examined had the recount gone forward, the study also looked at the possible effect of poor ballot design, voter error and malfunctioning machines. That secondary analysis suggests that more Florida voters may have gone to the polls intending to vote for Democrat Al Gore but failed to cast a valid vote.

If indeed Bush won by a few hundred votes, votes that they believe were intended for Gore - then it seems like the only ones who are stupid are the ones who couldn't read the ballots correctly and voted for someone other than they intended to.

I know what the article says. However, voters are responsible for watching what they do when they vote. I've seen representations of the ballot and it was not difficult at all to understand. There was no conclusive evidence found that the election was won/lost based on this article.

[Rockindeano]

Dude, that avatar gives me nightmares.

Dude, your avatar gives EVERYONE nightmares. Don't change it, though.

I was actually talking about Rippens...that euro with his tongue hanging out freaks me to the bone.

Yeah, I know. Anyway, I believe that's Don Dokken, who is not a Euro.

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

[StevePerryHair]

Dude, that avatar gives me nightmares.

Dude, your avatar gives EVERYONE nightmares. Don't change it, though.

I was actually talking about Rippens...that euro with his tongue hanging out freaks me to the bone.

Yeah, I know. Anyway, I believe that's Don Dokken, who is not a Euro.

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

What would it do to you if Bryan Adams was in that pic with his tongue sticking out??

[Rockindeano]

What would it do to you if Bryan Adams was in that pic with his tongue sticking out??

Shut up Lynn.

BA wouldn't do stupid shit like that.

[conversationpc]

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

[Behshad]

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

But his replacement was even more talented

[StevePerryHair]

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

But his replacement was even more talented

Who was his replacement?

[conversationpc]

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

But his replacement was even more talented

If you're talking about Reb Beach, I agree. He's better than both Lynch AND Norum, in my opinion.

[ohsherrie]

It's the conservatives that want to legislate their moral and religious beliefs into law and thereby impose them on everyone. That doesn't sound like freedom to me.

Please don't lie. Both sides do this. Besides that, all law is a representation of SOMEONE'S morality, good or bad.

I don't lie, and I'd rather have Dean call me one of his degrading names for a woman than be called a liar. Please don't do that.

I know of no case where the liberals tried to legislate any religious belief. In fact, it seems to me they're trying to get it out of our government. Of course laws are based on morality, but when the morality of a particular act, circumstance or situation is defined as such by a particular religious belief, it takes on another implication. For instance, some muslims believe it's immoral for a woman to go out in public without being completely covered. Just because your particular religion might see that as absurd, something that your religion designates as immoral may seem just as absurd to someone else. For instance, telling a woman she's got to put her body through childbirth regardless of the circumstances of the pregnancy.

You conspiracy kooks are just as bad, if not worse, than the nuts who claimed the Clinton administration was having people killed, ala Vince Foster, Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, etc., etc. Same kind of nuts, different decade and administration.

In another thread I saw where you accused Frank of always resorting to something(don't remember what) when he had no other ammunition. The "conspiracy kook" accusation is your last resort response.

[Indyjoe]

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

And don't forget...

From www.jeffscottsoto.com

23 August 2007

JSS ROCKS NEW DOKKEN CD

Jeff was in the studio this week with Don Dokken layering backing vocals for the upcoming album. Don wanted a richer texture to the backgrounds on these new songs so brought Jeff in to sing on 6 songs. Jeff says 'The album really hits back home with the classic Dokken sound, if you've been waiting for them to return to 'Tooth And Nail' or 'Under Lock And Key', you're really gonna be pleased with this one!!'. No release date is set as the album is still in production.


It's the Street Teamer in me. I can't help it. Carry on.

[Behshad]

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

But his replacement was even more talented

If you're talking about Reb Beach, I agree. He's better than both Lynch AND Norum, in my opinion.

I think Norum is the best of all three of them

[StevePerryHair]

Dokken blows. Might as well be a Euro.

Dokken was one of the few hair bands that had actual talent. George Lynch was one of the best guitar players out of that genre.

But his replacement was even more talented

If you're talking about Reb Beach, I agree. He's better than both Lynch AND Norum, in my opinion.

I think Norum is the best of all three of them

I was gonna GUESS that was the replacement

[ArnelRox]

If indeed Bush won by a few hundred votes, votes that they believe were intended for Gore - then it seems like the only ones who are stupid are the ones who couldn't read the ballots correctly and voted for someone other than they intended to.

You forget, this county (Palm Beach) has a LOT of old people & the ballots were VERY confusing. When I say old, I mean parts of this county have people that require oxygen to walk & are in their 90s. It's hard for them to read unless something is very clear & it was EASY to make a mistake on those ballots. The folks who put the ballots together knew this. It's interesting to think of who the FL Governor was at the time isnt it?

[conversationpc]

In another thread I saw where you accused Frank of always resorting to something(don't remember what) when he had no other ammunition. The "conspiracy kook" accusation is your last resort response.

It's not a last resort. You believe EVERYTHING Bush or his administration does is evil and give him credit for NOTHING he does for the good of the country. How is that not being kooky??? It's not a sane viewpoint at all, not even close.

In the 90's, it was CDS. In the 00's it's BDS.

[Rockindeano]

In another thread I saw where you accused Frank of always resorting to something(don't remember what) when he had no other ammunition. The "conspiracy kook" accusation is your last resort response.

It's not a last resort. You believe EVERYTHING Bush or his administration does is evil and give him credit for NOTHING he does for the good of the country. How is that not being kooky??? It's not a sane viewpoint at all, not even close.

In the 90's, it was CDS. In the 00's it's BDS.

I will gladly give W credit for something he does that is good for the nation.

Now, name me ONE thing he has done that has been good for the nation, and don't give me that "fight em over there bullshit" either. And forget the tax cut crap as well.

Ok, name ONE thing.

[RedWingFan]

First off, I don't wish AIDS on anyone. I am sorry, and take that one back.

As much as I disagree with you sometimes, you are a stand-up guy.

Yes, I DO believe in the death penalty. I am NOT liberal. Thanks for finally understanding that Davey.

Um...RipRokken was the one who said that, not me.

Dave, I told you Dean claimed to be a libertarian. Remember I pulled up the quote after Dean denied ever claiming to be libertarian? Dean now claims not to be liberal. Hopefully you can figure it out.

[conversationpc]

Now, name me ONE thing he has done that has been good for the nation, and don't give me that "fight em over there bullshit" either. And forget the tax cut crap as well.

Ok, name ONE thing.

- I won't use the war because that's an entirely debatable issue but, yes, the tax cut is one thing. The revenues coming in despite the tax cuts are the highest in history.

- Another is that we have not had another successful terrorist attack since 9/11 and many have been thwarted.

- Bush has appointed more women and minorities to positions of power than any other President.

- Provided additional funding (not including wartime) to a depleted military coming from the Clinton years.

- Severely damaged/hindered Al Qaeda.

- Signed the Amber Alert and Adam Walsh bills into law.

- Kept Gore and Kerry out of office...

- Low unemployment (hey, if you give Clinton credit, Bush gets it also)

- Despite the bungling of the war effort...Saddam Hussein at the end of a hangman's noose.

[Rip Rokken]

I was actually talking about Rippens...that euro with his tongue hanging out freaks me to the bone.

Ha! That's no Euro... That's Don Dokken!

[RedWingFan]

I will gladly give W credit for something he does that is good for the nation.

Now, name me ONE thing he has done that has been good for the nation, and don't give me that "fight em over there bullshit" either. And forget the tax cut crap as well.

Ok, name ONE thing.

Appointing originalists Alito and Roberts on the court is very good for us in the nation who value the Constitution. Unlike the libs on the court who choose to crap on it in favor of "foreign law".

[ArnelRox]

- Kept Gore and Kerry out of office...

Not funny Dave

[StevePerryHair]

I was actually talking about Rippens...that euro with his tongue hanging out freaks me to the bone.

Ha! That's no Euro... That's Don Dokken!

I think someone already informed him above

[conversationpc]

- Kept Gore and Kerry out of office...

Not funny Dave

This country is in a dire enough predicament as it is and it would be even worse with either of those two dolts running the big show.

[Rockindeano]

Oh I would love to have you on a stage in a debate. This is easy.

- I won't use the war because that's an entirely debatable issue but, yes, the tax cut is one thing. The revenues coming in despite the tax cuts are the highest in history.

You won't use the war because it is the biggest foreign policy failure in YS history with the damage being so bad, we may never recover from it.

- Another is that we have not had another successful terrorist attack since 9/11 and many have been thwarted.

What, a few guys detained trying to get into Fort Dix? Ok, I'llplay along. So there haven't been any more terrorist attacks, but there was one big one.

- Bush has appointed more women and minorities to positions of power than any other President.

So? Who cares? He appointed dumbshits regardless of race. Gonzalez is the worst AG in history and Ashcroft is right behind him.

- Provided additional funding (not including wartime) to a depleted military coming from the Clinton years.

That's not a good thing being done. While in office, Clinton was able to cut wasteful spending in the military budget and there were NO terrorist attacks on US soil. Also, Bush gave more money to the miltary?...but he can't provide our troops with proper armor though right?

- Severely damaged/hindered Al Qaeda.

You're reaching now. Of course they will be damaged, but he also stirred them up like a hornets nest, and has caused a movement to join Al Qaeda. If anything, Bush has made Al Qaeda stronger.

- Signed the Amber Alert and Adam Walsh bills into law.

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Shit, that'll save America. Whew!

- Kept Gore and Kerry out of office...

As history has shown us, that hasn't been a good thing for the Country.

- Low unemployment (hey, if you give Clinton credit, Bush gets it also)

Fair enough. Although we both know employment cycles are cyclical. We are no too far from a major recession.

- Despite the bungling of the war effort...Saddam Hussein at the end of a hangman's noose.

Again, not a good thing. We keep Saddam in power, and Iraq doesn't end up a mess for us.

[ohsherrie]

In another thread I saw where you accused Frank of always resorting to something(don't remember what) when he had no other ammunition. The "conspiracy kook" accusation is your last resort response.

It's not a last resort. You believe EVERYTHING Bush or his administration does is evil and give him credit for NOTHING he does for the good of the country. How is that not being kooky??? It's not a sane viewpoint at all, not even close.

In the 90's, it was CDS. In the 00's it's BDS.

Dave, it's not being kooky and it's not insane unless you consider only those who like war and growing poverty numbers sane. I honestly don't know of anything he's done that's been good for this country. Absolutely nothing. Everything he's done is for his special interest backers, period.

Name one good thing he's done for this country.


OOPS! Sorry Dean, I didn't see that you'd already covered this.

[Rockindeano]

- Kept Gore and Kerry out of office...

Not funny Dave

This country is in a dire enough predicament as it is and it would be even worse with either of those two dolts running the big show.

How can you say that? Geoge W Bush is the WORST president of ALL time. You can say what you said, but it holds NO merit. Al Gore is hardly a dolt. The guy just won a Nobel Peace Prize.

[conversationpc]

Dave, it's not being kooky and it's not insane unless you consider only those who like war and growing poverty numbers sane. I honestly don't know of anything he's done that's been good for this country. Absolutely nothing. Everything he's done is for his special interest backers, period.

I'm sorry but you are indeed out of your mind on this one and any rational thinking person would have to draw the same conclusion.

Seriously, what would you think if I said that Clinton had not done one good thing for this country, absolutely nothing, and actually believed it? You would think I'm nuts and you'd be exactly right.