The Steves Yack!!

[Monker]

All we know is that someone emailed Steve and told him Augeri said that. Why should he assume it's true?

Because he has a brain? I mean, come on, that's almost as bad of an excuse as the hip thing.

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They hired Augeri to spite Steve because he wouldn't do what they wanted when they wanted, so now Steve is supposed to appreciate Augeri,
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Yeah, whatever. Obviously, you live in a fantasy land.

If he hadn't answered the question in some manner you'd all be complaining that he ignored the question for spite.

I wouldn't have even brought it up if it wasn't quoted here. The bottom line is that words such as those do nothing but make things more divisive. You are proof of that.

If you were fired under the same circumstance Steve was I have a hard time believing you would be gracious to your replacement. I wouldn't, and you're not that much sweeter than I am.

You're wrong.

Anytime an artist inspires anybody and that person tells them, they should appreciate it. It is one of the highest compliments that can be given...that a piece of their work affected someones life. To ignore that type of compliment is insulting, to say the least.

a) I considered the possibility that it could have been a ploy to try and win over some of Steve's fans, or get them to buy the thing. Perhaps Steve could have considered that possibility too.(Just speculating, I have no way of knowing what Steve felt about it, and neither do you.)

b) That piece of work was an insult in itself.

Grow up. The type of nonsense above doesn't even deserve a response.

Just because you think Steve should consider it a complement, someone who doesn't share your dedication to any band that Neal wants to call Journey may not see it that way.

So? Just because you want to be as rude and crude as you can doesn't mean that you are making any sense at all either.

[jrnyman28]

Anytime an artist inspires anybody and that person tells them, they should appreciate it. It is one of the highest compliments that can be given...that a piece of their work affected someones life. To ignore that type of compliment is insulting, to say the least.

This is the post of the day. Mostly because it says what I was thinking but having a hard time articulating.

Regardless of the situations involved, Perry should have been gracious toward the comment. If he didn't want to be gracious, than the comments could have been edited out to avoid all of this speculation and emotion.

[The_Noble_Cause]

This is the post of the day. Mostly because it says what I was thinking but having a hard time articulating.

Regardless of the situations involved, Perry should have been gracious toward the comment. If he didn't want to be gracious, than the comments could have been edited out to avoid all of this speculation and emotion.

Yeah, agreed. I am glad Monk could convey what I was feeling (yet unable to express competently) so accurately.

[The_Noble_Cause]

All we know is that someone emailed Steve and told him Augeri said that. Why should he assume it's true? They hired Augeri to spite Steve because he wouldn't do what they wanted when they wanted, so now Steve is supposed to appreciate Augeri, GET REAL!!! If he hadn't answered the question in some manner you'd all be complaining that he ignored the question for spite.

Once again.....

Here's how it is: When you don't show up for work you get fired. Plain and simple. Perry was MIA for 12 years, his actions suggest that he was practically begging to receive his walking papers.
So, he got 'em.
Cya! Adios!

A true example of a snub would be the hiring of Perry while Fleishman was still in the band and actively writing songs with the guys. He wasn't finding ways out of touring or taking time off (like Perry). The guy was an active part of Journey and they unceremoniously fired him and brought in Perry to start singing HIS songs.
Now, THAT's a snub.
And you know what?
Robert didn't hold a grude, he very graciously showed up at the WOF event, hung with all the members, sung at the HOB concert and even came to the JPP fan luncheon.

Augeri's inclusion isn't a snub, he was brought in 'cuz they had absolutely no other choice, Perry chose to stop being an active member of the band. He conciously took himself out of the equation.

Got it?

[Monker]

That is all true.

But, to keep it in perspective, it's one question out of one hundred...and it's the only one I would ever critique.

Overall, it's a great Q&A...one of the best Perry has done in years. In fact, I think he handled the entire WOF thing very well.

Anytime an artist inspires anybody and that person tells them, they should appreciate it. It is one of the highest compliments that can be given...that a piece of their work affected someones life. To ignore that type of compliment is insulting, to say the least.

This is the post of the day. Mostly because it says what I was thinking but having a hard time articulating.

Regardless of the situations involved, Perry should have been gracious toward the comment. If he didn't want to be gracious, than the comments could have been edited out to avoid all of this speculation and emotion.

[heardonthestreet]

"That is all true...........monker speaks!"

What a bunch of bullshit!

[jrnyjetster]

Overall, it's a great Q&A...one of the best Perry has done in years. In fact, I think he handled the entire WOF thing very well.

Can't argue you with you there, Monker. It's nice to have Perry come out of his shell every so often...

[perryfaithful]

[quote="Monker"]

Anytime an artist inspires anybody and that person tells them, they should appreciate it. It is one of the highest compliments that can be given...that a piece of their work affected someones life. To ignore that type of compliment is insulting, to say the least.

.....and if there is a "thank you" owed, it is to Steve Augeri PERSONALLY, not to us! Perhaps this happened in their brief meeting? We don't know, but to demand that Perry publicly respond to this information ( which presents as here say) seems like a plea for the fans egos, not Augeri's!

I have to agree with Dave that this it is unfortunate that this part of the actual questions (a lead in, not the question) was not edited out because I do not believe that there was any intentional desire to start this kind of crap among the fans.

[Monker]

.....and if there is a "thank you" owed, it is to Steve Augeri PERSONALLY, not to us!

Then he should not have answered that question! If it's his private personal thing, then why even have it in the Q/A? He goes into interviews and talks about all kinds of personal things and then says he wants to keep his personal life private. That is hypocritical. He even did that for the question about Patty Jenkins and his daughter. First he says it's his personal life, and then makes jokes out of it.

Perhaps this happened in their brief meeting?

That has nothing to do with the question I quoted in a post above.

but to demand that Perry publicly respond to this information ( which presents as here say) seems like a plea for the fans egos, not Augeri's!

I did not 'demand' anything. I am simply saying that if Perry wanted to reply to this question he should have acknowledged that compliments that Augeri gave him. What is so hard to understand about that? That was rude and insulting...and he added to the divisiveness of the fans with his "my time with Journey" thing. He should have avoided this question completely.

Plea for the fans egos? I have no idea where you are getting that one from.

I have to agree with Dave that this it is unfortunate that this part of the actual questions (a lead in, not the question) was not edited out

I have basicaly said the same thing, repeatedly. He should not have answered this question. It's a black mark on an otherwise great q/a.

because I do not believe that there was any intentional desire to start this kind of crap among the fans.

Of course it was not 'intentional'. But, when he makes statements such as these, all it does is give people more material to be more divisive. Do you think Perry wants that? Do you think Perry wants to give OhSherrie more material to use against Journey fans? Do you think he wants to give people like me more material to use in response? Do you think he's proud that people like you and OhSherrie go about quoting him in a 'nya, nya' sorta way? Do you think he enjoys seeing his words twisted around to be used to express such anger and hatred towards Journey? Do you think he would rather not answer questions at all then see his words turned into someone elses expression of anger and hatred?

[Liz22562]

All this because FA did a poor edit job on the Questions AND Answers?

Unless Steve Perry or Steve Augeri post somewhere what their tete-a-tete was at the WOF, we will never know. I'm just happy that Journey (past and present) received a star.

Journey On...and smile!

[heardonthestreet]

All of this because he didn't answer the questions the way a lot of you wanted him to answer them.

I think that he answered the questions the way that he knew he would be making many, many of his loyal fans happy , especiallly the Augeri question. Sure he could have skipped it, but I think he felt that he wanted to answer it in a way that we, his loyal fans understood and to let us know just where he stood. We all wondered if he had ever attended a recent concert. Now we know. It was a case of making most of the people happy ALL the time.

As far as thanking Augeri for his Red 13 dedication.............Would your mother-in-law thank you if you named your pet frog after her?

[perryfaithful]

Monker you are trying way too hard to make this in to something! He has spoken! He JUST met Steve Augeri at the WOF for the first time and NO he has not heard him sing with Journey. I guess that upset a bunch of people who have been dreaming that Perry sits around and watches the Las Vegas DVD every night, worshiping Steve Augeri. Well.......seems like NOT!!

I think it is funny that after all the times fans of Classic Journey have been asked to leave Steve Perry out of any conversation regarding Journey out of respect to Steve Augeri.....there is finally a time with Perry talking to the fans after years away and you are trying to make this ALL about Steve Augeri! Give it up!

[jrnyman28]

All of this because he didn't answer the questions the way a lot of you wanted him to answer them.

I think that he answered the questions the way that he knew he would be making many, many of his loyal fans happy , especiallly the Augeri question. Sure he could have skipped it, but I think he felt that he wanted to answer it in a way that we, his loyal fans understood and to let us know just where he stood. We all wondered if he had ever attended a recent concert. Now we know. It was a case of making most of the people happy ALL the time.

Talk about fan ego!!!

[Rockindeano]

The people on this here forum are very intelligent, seriously. I feel after reading this page,that yes, I am exhausted. I can break down the new budget, as bad as it is, and do a report faster than figure out which Steve was wrong, and which fans are correct and every other damned thing...truly amazing............

[heardonthestreet]

Face it Dave. He made a hell of a lot more people happy than he made unhappy. Sorry if you can't accept the facts as I see them. Enjoy your own and feel slighted.

[Monker]

Monker you are trying way too hard to make this in to something!

No, I'm trying real hard to repeat myself as many times as it takes for some of you people to 'get it'.

He has spoken!

No he didn't. He has written. His reply ignored bits of a question that contains compliments from Augeri.

He JUST met Steve Augeri
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Irrelevent.

and NO he has not heard him sing with Journey.

Irrelevent.

I guess that upset a bunch of people who have been dreaming that Perry sits around and watches the Las Vegas DVD every night, worshiping Steve Augeri.

I don't see a 'bunch of people' being upset about this interview...in fact, I do not see any. The rest of the above is irrelevent.

I think it is funny that after all the times fans of Classic Journey have been asked to leave Steve Perry out of any conversation regarding Journey out of respect to Steve Augeri.....there is finally a time with Perry talking to the fans after years away and you are trying to make this ALL about Steve Augeri! Give it up!

I think you are ignoring the posts where I said this was a good interview and the WOF was handled very well by Perry. I think YOU and others are trying to make this all about "Perry vs. Augeri". I think YOU and OhSherrie pointed to this one piece of the interview and had a 'nya, nya' attitude, as if Perry himself supported it through his reply.

I feel that Perry did not handle this question well...probably the ONLY question he did not handle well. That has nothing to do with Augeri. It has to do with Perry and his way of ignoring a compliment from a fellow singer. When someone gives an artist a compliment such as that, and that artist has an opportunity to reply to it publicly, I feel they are completely in the wrong to ignore it...it does not matter what people are involved.

Did he ignore it on other questions where fans gave him compliments, or said said so-and-so thinks blah of you? No. He should have treated this question in the same way.

[Monker]

Face it Dave. He made a hell of a lot more people happy than he made unhappy. Sorry if you can't accept the facts as I see them. Enjoy your own and feel slighted.

I don't see where anybody is denying that he made the fans happy.

[heardonthestreet]

How can you be expected to understand Deno, when you don't even understand how offensive your sig is? No offence meant. Just wondering.

[Rockindeano]

How can you be expected to understand Deno, when you don't even understand how offensive your sig is? No offence meant. Just wondering.

No, just say what you really mean to say..I cannot keep up with you people, is that it? You all are so damned knowledgeable about everything Journey...Forget this place...

[heardonthestreet]

Like I posted monker. Feel slighted if you choose. I enjoyed it all and found it entertaining, revealing and clever.

[heardonthestreet]

Cripes Deno! We don't really know anymore than you do. We've just been at this for many years and it's old hat. You're one of the nice guys and it takes a tough skin to debate the issues. It's just that the sig thing was hurting your image,in my opinion. Very sorry if I offended.

[Monker]

Like I posted monker. Feel slighted if you choose. I enjoyed it all and found it entertaining, revealing and clever.

I don't feel slighted in the slightest. It seems to me that you are the person saying that it made a bunch of people unhappy, which is clearly not the case. Were you expecting it to?

[perryfaithful]

...Forget this place...

Don't you dare go anywhere RocknDeano! You actually experienced the WOF. the rest of us are yaking from our armchairs, wishing we had been there.

[heardonthestreet]

Reread your posts monker, if even you have the stomach for it. I don't have the stomach to quote them.

You had me with "what a great Q&A it was." I would have been suprised but than you had to ruin it with your whineing as usual..

[ohsherrie]

As far as thanking Augeri for his Red 13 dedication.............Would your mother-in-law thank you if you named your pet frog after her?

Great line HOTS


A complement isn't a complement unless the recipient sees it as such. Now if a child named a pet frog that he loved after me that could be taken as a sincere compliment, however, if an adult named an animal that I found repulsive after me, regardless of how he felt about said animal, I wouldn't be the least bit flattered.

I can see how the Augeri fans might be affronted by the way Steve answered that question, I can also see why so many of us who are faithful to Steve Perry are pleased with it. Some of them seem to have a need for Steve to accept Augeri and/or endorse the band as it is, some of us want him to stick to his guns and retain his integrity, of course we're going to see it differently.

Because he has a brain? I mean, come on, that's almost as bad of an excuse as the hip thing.

I was wondering when you'd get around to being THAT "rude and crude".

As far as the divisiveness that you say I've generated over Steve's answer, there was no divisiveness between PF and I when I responded to her post. It only happened when the Augeri fans chimed in with their negativity towards Steve in defense of Augeri. If you or some others perceived a "nya nya" in what I or PF originally said, that could be perceived as more of a reflection on your attitudes than ours.

I don't think Steve intended to slight Augeri in what he said. I think he just answered the question truthfully. Why would he thank his fans for a statement that was attributed to Augeri? He answered THE QUESTION that he was asked. Neither PF nor I knew that anything more than that question had been in the email until you pointed it out. Now why would you want to go and instigate such a divisive discussion?

[jrnyman28]

Face it Dave. He made a hell of a lot more people happy than he made unhappy. Sorry if you can't accept the facts as I see them. Enjoy your own and feel slighted.

Whether your statement is true or not, it has nothing to do with what is going on here.

Funny you say the facts as YOU see them. Seems like that would make them opinions...

And I do not feel slighted in the least. I enjoyed hearing from Perry as did everyone else. My ONLY comment about this particular question has been why Perry ignored the compliments (which is a little rude) or why didn't they edit it out if he didn't want to respond to them.

Do not put your interpretation of mywords thoughts or emotions into my posts.

[heardonthestreet]

Nor you mine.

Still sorry that you found fault with ANYTHING about the Q.A. It was such a joy to me that I have sympathy for anyone who may have found it lacking.
Maybe next time.

[PROPERRY]

I really hope that Perry & Augeri NEVER TELL the fans what was said between them at the WOF!!! I don't care if it was just, "Hello, nice to meet you." I hope they BOTH Keep that information to themselves!!! My gosh, it was a conversation that was between them two, NOT THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!

IF either one of them did tell, it would just be twisted around into a
negative situation by some fans.

It was a VERY GOOD thing that Perry went to the WOF, and it was a VERY GOOD thing that Perry GAVE his time & let the fans ask him questions. It made ME HAPPY, and I'm sure HE made A LOT of other fans happy too!!!

Lori

[Rockindeano]

It was a VERY GOOD thing that Perry went to the WOF, and it was a VERY GOOD thing that Perry GAVE his time & let the fans ask him questions. It made ME HAPPY, and I'm sure HE made A LOT of other fans happy too!!!

Lori[/quote]

Well said Lori, well said.

[heardonthestreet]

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