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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:02 pm

Johnny Farnham was well known before LRB.
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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:06 pm

The Voice? He has a song called the voice, but I didn't realise that is his nickname. I'm not really a fan of his, but he does have a few good songs. I remember him from way back when I was a kid. He had a couple of hit songs with Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head and Sadie, the Cleaning Lady. :lol:
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Postby Monker » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:07 pm

Penny wrote:Johnny Farnham was well known before LRB.


True....in Australia he was. But, for us in North America, LRB is a more familiar name. People may remember "We Two", or "The Other Guy", or "Down on the Border", or maybe "Playing to Win".

Also, when he first hooked up with Graham from LRB, his popularity wasn't exactly that great, was it? I know he hit big with "Saidie", but didn't he hit a big slump in the mid-70's?
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:07 pm

I thought Robert Palmer was a good singer, not a great singer, he was a smoker.

John Cougar Mellencamp smoked, I don't know if he still does after his 1994 heart attack.
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Postby Shadowsong » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:08 pm

Saw Chain Reaction Tour
was that a song or albumn
Frontiers has a Chain Reaction
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:08 pm

wait a minute..


Farnham was in Little River Band? Monker?
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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:09 pm

To be honest, I don't ever remember him singing with LRB. I thought Glen Shorrock was always their singer. Glen and Beeb, to me those two are LRB.
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Postby Monker » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:11 pm

Penny wrote:The Voice? He has a song called the voice, but I didn't realise that is his nickname. I'm not really a fan of his, but he does have a few good songs. I remember him from way back when I was a kid. He had a couple of hit songs with Raindrops Keep Falling on my Head and Sadie, the Cleaning Lady. :lol:


Yep, that was his early career...But, "Whispering Jack" launched his later career.

I haven't listened to his early stuff. On his later albums, I think they are a bit spotty. They have three or four very good songs, mixed in with a lot of poppy songs. I REALLY like 33 1/3 though...and I think every Perry fan should buy it...It's the best Perry album that Perry never recorded.
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Postby Shadowsong » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:12 pm

John joined the Little River Band in 1981. LRB released 3 albums and toured the world. They received popular acclaim, but after what was four turbulent years, John announced he was leaving the band to pursue a solo career.\\


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Postby Monker » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:17 pm

Penny wrote:To be honest, I don't ever remember him singing with LRB. I thought Glen Shorrock was always their singer. Glen and Beeb, to me those two are LRB.


That's true...and add Graham Goble. The Farnham years of LRB were never very popular.

Back when Napster was new and ilegal, I downloaded the live version of "Cool Change" with Farnham. It was absolutely incredible...and I was sold on Farnham's voice from that point on.

Also, after Glen left for a second time, he was replaced by a guy named Steve Wade...He also has an AWESOME voice. He recorded a couple albums with Graham..."Nautilus" and "Stop"...Both are very much worth checking out for his voice alone.

Finaly, if you have not checked out the BSG CD and video "Full Circle" - it's incredible. It is how LRB should sound today...Birtles, Shorrock, and Goble together again.
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Postby Shadowsong » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:18 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I thought Robert Palmer was a good singer, not a great singer, he was a smoker.



RP doesn;t smoke any more
Dead at the age of 54

Even working in nightclubs & the such with heavy levels of smoke has contributed negatively to many performers and employees health
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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:19 pm

Well there you go. I've learnt something new about ozzie music. The Farnham songs that I can think of that I like are:
The Voice, Burn For You and Age of Reason. I'm sure there are more as well. I don't think I've ever heard any that he's sung with LRB. I'm surprised you know them in the USA. They weren't really big here.
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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:21 pm

Napster, those were the days. :lol:
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:22 pm

Shadowsong says:

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:
I thought Robert Palmer was a good singer, not a great singer, he was a smoker.

RP doesn;t smoke any nore
Dead at the age of 54


Yes, I know he passed away, that's why I wrote "was" each time. He had a heart attack. I have no clue if that was due to the smoking or not. I was going to make a point, but decided not to since I'm too tired to look up any facts. I personally don't like smoking, but that's just my opinion.
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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:24 pm

Wasn't Farnham rumoured to be singing with Queen at one stage?
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:31 pm

Penny says:

Wasn't Farnham rumoured to be singing with Queen at one stage?


There should be an OT (off topic) thread just on John Farnham. I had no clue who he is until reading all this. Very interesting.

Here's your information Penny:


Farnham and Queen Song To Surface On Football Album The John Farnham and Queen version of 'We Will Rock You' will be used for the Official Rugby World Cup album.

Undercover first reported on July 15 that Farnham and Queen had recorded the song together and that it would appear on John's upcoming greatest hits album 'One Voice' and that is still the case. However, the Rugby World Cup album will be released prior to John's own record.

The football album will be titled 'True Colours - The World In Union'. Farnham recorded his vocals in May and sent the tapes to Queen in England to add the backing track.

"The whole thing is a nice progression of the song," explains Queen's Brian May. "It starts off very true to the original but then goes to a new place. (It's) kind of 'Five', post-Pavarotti, post-New York. It sounds huge. It will be a favourite in my car anyway."

Farnham was happy to fill Freddie's show just this one time "As long as I don't have to wear leotards when I record it" he joked.

May was a Farnham fan from way back. "John Farnham is a consummate singer and performer," he declared. He first became aware of Farnham's work when 'You're The Voice' was a hit in 1986. Chris Thompson, a friend of May's wrote the Farnham hit.

'We Will Rock You' Farnham style will not be released as a single although it will be serviced to Australian radio in September. The song will appear on the two respective albums.


As for Farnham joining Queen permanently or for one off shows that is rubbish one insider tells Undercover. "That was never true. It was made up by a reporter" Undercover was told. Farnham didn't attend the opening of 'We Will Rock You' although it was in his home town of Melbourne. "He was too embarrassed to attend after those newspaper stories. That was total bullshit. John was invited but didn't attend. His manger Glenn Wheatley came along though" we were told.
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Postby Penny » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:39 pm

It'll be interesting to hear the song.
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Postby Monker » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:40 pm

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:There should be an OT (off topic) thread just on John Farnham. I had no clue who he is until reading all this. Very interesting.


At one time, I wanted Andrew to start a LRB forum here...

But, it would just be filled with the same crap that the Styx forum, and this forum is...

LRB stole the name! BSG are OLD! LRB performed a balloon festival! BSG's musicians are average at best! LRB kept the name alive after BSG quit! BSG are the founders and should be allowed to use the name any way they want! Steve Housden is a dork! Glen Shorrock is bald!

Whatever. I see it enough on the LRB mailing list.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:58 pm

Why would it be filled with argument?

Those guys can ALL sing.

I can't see a reason for argument..


If Andrew was smart, he would have a separate Perry forum.....

maybe he likes the activity.

The Styx board does not even compete with the Journey Board, so what's your point on that?
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Postby brandonx76 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:28 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I thought Robert Palmer was a good singer, not a great singer, he was a smoker.

John Cougar Mellencamp smoked, I don't know if he still does after his 1994 heart attack.


Can't imagine he's stopped...he absolutely "loves smoking" and had professed this after his heart attack (which apparently was mi-nute but happened while he was on stage...from an interview I recall)...Hey I thought of another 'singer'...well depends on your definition of vocal talent, but Foo Fighters Dave Grohl (and the drummer) smoke like chimneys...

I seem to recall reading a Foo Fighters backstage requirements list that included "2 cartons of Marlboro Reds", but I can't locate that doc..

Oh and on this note...here's Journey's 2001 Backstage requirements...didn't check for ciggs ;-)


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstaget ... rney3.html
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Postby brandonx76 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:32 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Why would it be filled with argument?

Those guys can ALL sing.

I can't see a reason for argument..


If Andrew was smart, he would have a separate Perry forum.....

maybe he likes the activity.

The Styx board does not even compete with the Journey Board, so what's your point on that?


Still wondering though, with regards to my original post...is it a cigg or a J....lol...has anyone looked at it?
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Postby Monker » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:00 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Why would it be filled with argument?

Those guys can ALL sing.

I can't see a reason for argument..


Because, there are two sides. The "original voices" of LRB reunited a few years ago as BSG. The current owner of the LRB name (Stephen Housden) has taken BSG to court several times for refering to themselves as "The orignal voices of the Little River Band". So, there has been this constant fight.

On one side there are fans of the current LRB who believe Housden and several other member, kept the name alive for the years that BSG were not interested...and they have every right to the music and name as BSG. On the other sid

On the other side there are BSG fans who are pissed that Housden sues BSG at every turn to keep them from touring and referring to their herritage - a history that BSG built and Housden and company have been captitalizing on for years.

If Andrew was smart, he would have a separate Perry forum.....


I don't see the point. of having a Perry forum. If everybody would respect the forum itself then there would be no problem. Some people refuse to do that.

The Styx board does not even compete with the Journey Board, so what's your point on that?


The point is is that it is the same crap....bands losing important members, fans ticked about it, other fans not, other fans ticked at what other fans believe and say about the situation. It's been that way for years.
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Postby Monker » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:02 pm

This is a thing I wrote a few years ago about all three bands, Styx, REO, and LRB:

I am a fan of the these three bands. It's a bit ironic to compare the similarities of what has happened within each of these bands and how the fans have reacted over the past few years. So, I thought I would write a little about them.

The most obvious comparison, and the one I have made countless times, is Journey and Styx. They both moved on without an important member from their past. Dennis DeYoung for Styx and Steve Perry for Journey. Even the stated reasons are similar - refusing, or unable, to tour for medical reasons. The reaction from the fans was also similar...Loyalists to Dennis, or Steve Perry, critiquing the band and the band's fans who remained. The invention of belittling names such as Stynx for Styx and UnJourney for Journey...Tommy droolers, Deyoungians, Perryheads, etc...Even the talk on the forums was almost identical...just swap the names around and a person could be talking about : DeYoung or Perry, Tommy or Neal, Jonathan or JY, Augeri or Gowan, and now Allen or Jim Vose.

In some ways LRB is a different story. It can be argued that the LRB that has toured the US over the past few years is a direct evolution from the original band. But, they have absolutely no original members of the band remaining. The original band got back together earlier this year and were promptly sued in Australia for using "Little River Band" as part of their name ("The original Little River Band", or something like that). So, now they are performing in Australia as BSG...the initials of the three important members, Beeb Birtles, Glen Shorrock, and Graham Goble.

LRB is in a bit of an extreme position. As a result the band members and the fans get involved in some extreme talk. This is where the similarities to Journey and Styx exist. You have fans of the current band and fans of BSG who are ticked that they can't use the name. You have the word games going on...They call LRB "LHB" because Stephen Housden owns the rights to the name. You have the comparisons of which version of the band sounds best...and who sells the most tickets and CD's. You have the constant critique of the current band surviving on the hits the original band wrote...all of the above exist in the conversations of fans of Styx and Journey.

The bottom line in all of this is that these bands would not be able to continue on if there were not people willing to spend money on them by buying new CD's and concert tickets. If they were not profitable, labels would not release the CD's and they would not be able to book a tour. Sure, there may be fans that do not like the current state of how these bands exist, because of the lineup changes or whatever...But, there are fans who still like these bands even given the lineup changes. The constant whining about the changes are not going to change anything. If a person doesn't like it, they do not have to buy the CD or concert ticket. It's that simple.
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Postby jrnyjetster » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:33 pm

David Coverdale of WHITESNAKE and Geoff Tate of QUEENSRYCHE are/were both smokers.
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:55 pm

jrnyjetster wrote:David Coverdale of WHITESNAKE and Geoff Tate of QUEENSRYCHE are/were both smokers.


I'd be willing to bet that more people in the music business would choose the smoking than the nonsmoking sections. :wink:
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:57 pm

Monker, everything you said it right. Does that mean you think we should all just stop talking about it? How boring would that be? :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:14 pm

ohsherrie wrote:Monker, everything you said it right. Does that mean you think we should all just stop talking about it? How boring would that be? :lol:


Well, if you are talking about "taliking about the breakups,"......


See Sherrie, the only topic you Perry fans CAN talk about is 20 yrs ago.....unless the Houston DVD comes out..which it did.

Us other "current, real Journey " fans can talk about the current tour, ticket sales, Generations, Arrival, and Red13.

"To live in the past, is to die in the past."

Seriously, are you people EVER going to let go?
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Postby brandonx76 » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:29 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Monker, everything you said it right. Does that mean you think we should all just stop talking about it? How boring would that be? :lol:


Well, if you are talking about "taliking about the breakups,"......


See Sherrie, the only topic you Perry fans CAN talk about is 20 yrs ago.....unless the Houston DVD comes out..which it did.

Us other "current, real Journey " fans can talk about the current tour, ticket sales, Generations, Arrival, and Red13.

"To live in the past, is to die in the past."


Seriously, are you people EVER going to let go?



Since it's so tough to stay on topic here, just thought I'd add that Deano's new avatar is the ugliest one I've seen yet.

haha
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Postby ohsherrie » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:32 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Well, if you are talking about "taliking about the breakups,"......


See Sherrie, the only topic you Perry fans CAN talk about is 20 yrs ago.....unless the Houston DVD comes out..which it did.

Us other "current, real Journey " fans can talk about the current tour, ticket sales, Generations, Arrival, and Red13.

"To live in the past, is to die in the past."

Seriously, are you people EVER going to let go?



Dean, that's unfair. I've participated in, and even started, positive discussions about the new music. Much of it due to the cds you sent me. Am I supposed to "let go" of the old music that I love and the voice that made me love it just because there is new music out there? Am I supposed to lie and say I like the new music better? If we're all Journey fans here why does it matter what version we prefer?
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:32 pm

brandonpfn wrote:

That is the ugliest Avatar I've seen yet


Dude, I was in the process of changing it, now that I see you have mentioned it, I think I'll let it stay..
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