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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:47 am

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ScarabGator wrote:BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...yeah, just who I want leading this country :roll: . Never wanted a Clinton to win anything more than now.


Who cares what his middle name or his skin color is? I've run into this kind of bigotry even with a few of my old friends. One of them even said they'd rather have a woman than a negro for president. How fucking redneckish! Obama has 500 times more common sense and intelligence than Bush does. We should all consider ourselves lucky that we have someone like Obama to clean up after Bush. If we didn't, our country would continue to go down the fucking drain while the entire world gazes on.

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Hey, SCREW YOU DICK!!!! Calling me a bigot!? I didnt say ANYTHING about his skin color you did so you must be the fucking bigot. I just dont like him, period. Sounds to much like saddam's boy.


I never called you a bigot. If the shoe fits wear it. What's in a name? If your candidates middle name was Arnold would that make him a traitor? I'm just saying that people are using all kinds of bigotry to diss Obama, and none of it has any justification to it. If you want to diss him for his politics, go for it. But just because his middle name is Hussein doesn't make him a Muslim or put him in the same category as Saddam. Let's use rational arguments if we're going to have an intelligent debate, okay? Is that too much to ask?

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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:49 am

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ScarabGator wrote:BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...yeah, just who I want leading this country :roll: . Never wanted a Clinton to win anything more than now.


Who cares what his middle name or his skin color is? I've run into this kind of bigotry even with a few of my old friends. One of them even said they'd rather have a woman than a negro for president. How fucking redneckish! Obama has 500 times more common sense and intelligence than Bush does. We should all consider ourselves lucky that we have someone like Obama to clean up after Bush. If we didn't, our country would continue to go down the fucking drain while the entire world gazes on.

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Hey, SCREW YOU DICK!!!! Calling me a bigot!? I didnt say ANYTHING about his skin color you did so you must be the fucking bigot. I just dont like him, period. Sounds to much like saddam's boy.


I never called you a bigot. If the shoe fits wear it. What's in a name? If your candidates middle name was Arnold would that make him a traitor? I'm just saying that people are using all kinds of bigotry to diss Obama, and none of it has any justification to it. If you want to diss him for his politics, go for it. But just because his middle name is Hussein doesn't make him a Muslim or put him in the same category as Saddam. Let's use rational arguments if we're going to have an intelligent debate, okay? Is that too much to ask?

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why dont you read your reply to me above again. You threw out the bigot and redneck slurs. How is that rational????
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:51 am

Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:
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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:51 am

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ScarabGator wrote:BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...yeah, just who I want leading this country :roll: . Never wanted a Clinton to win anything more than now.


Who cares what his middle name or his skin color is? I've run into this kind of bigotry even with a few of my old friends. One of them even said they'd rather have a woman than a negro for president. How fucking redneckish! Obama has 500 times more common sense and intelligence than Bush does. We should all consider ourselves lucky that we have someone like Obama to clean up after Bush. If we didn't, our country would continue to go down the fucking drain while the entire world gazes on.

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Hey, SCREW YOU DICK!!!! Calling me a bigot!? I didnt say ANYTHING about his skin color you did so you must be the fucking bigot. I just dont like him, period. Sounds to much like saddam's boy.


I never called you a bigot. If the shoe fits wear it. What's in a name? If your candidates middle name was Arnold would that make him a traitor? I'm just saying that people are using all kinds of bigotry to diss Obama, and none of it has any justification to it. If you want to diss him for his politics, go for it. But just because his middle name is Hussein doesn't make him a Muslim or put him in the same category as Saddam. Let's use rational arguments if we're going to have an intelligent debate, okay? Is that too much to ask?

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why dont you read your reply to me above again. You threw out the bigot and redneck slurs. How is that rational????


Okay, look - I'm sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to call you a bigot at all. I've stated why I support Obama and I'll leave it at that. I don't want to make enemies of my friends on this forum by arguing politics. If I have offended anyone else I am sorry. Please don't take it personal. It's just my opinion.

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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:55 am

Voyager wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Voyager wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Voyager wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...yeah, just who I want leading this country :roll: . Never wanted a Clinton to win anything more than now.


Who cares what his middle name or his skin color is? I've run into this kind of bigotry even with a few of my old friends. One of them even said they'd rather have a woman than a negro for president. How fucking redneckish! Obama has 500 times more common sense and intelligence than Bush does. We should all consider ourselves lucky that we have someone like Obama to clean up after Bush. If we didn't, our country would continue to go down the fucking drain while the entire world gazes on.

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Hey, SCREW YOU DICK!!!! Calling me a bigot!? I didnt say ANYTHING about his skin color you did so you must be the fucking bigot. I just dont like him, period. Sounds to much like saddam's boy.


I never called you a bigot. If the shoe fits wear it. What's in a name? If your candidates middle name was Arnold would that make him a traitor? I'm just saying that people are using all kinds of bigotry to diss Obama, and none of it has any justification to it. If you want to diss him for his politics, go for it. But just because his middle name is Hussein doesn't make him a Muslim or put him in the same category as Saddam. Let's use rational arguments if we're going to have an intelligent debate, okay? Is that too much to ask?

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why dont you read your reply to me above again. You threw out the bigot and redneck slurs. How is that rational????


Okay, look - I'm sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to call you a bigot at all. I've stated why I support Obama and I'll leave it at that. I don't want to make enemies of my friends on this forum by arguing politics. If I have offended anyone else I am sorry. Please don't take it personal. It's just my opinion.

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I apoligise to you too, bro. Sorry for the hot-head. This is what makes this a great country. I definetly consider you a friend!
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Postby Lula » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:11 am

ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:17 am

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ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.
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Postby Lula » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:32 am

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ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


his mom is white, his father black. they met in hawaii. his father left when he was a baby. he attended a muslim school for 2 years and a catholic school for 2 years. big deal. it's comments like these that scare the hell out of me, it's that hope of instilling fear in people with terribly inaccurate statements.
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:36 am

Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


his mom is white, his father black. they met in hawaii. his father left when he was a baby. he attended a muslim school for 2 years and a catholic school for 2 years. big deal. it's comments like these that scare the hell out of me, it's that hope of instilling fear in people with terribly inaccurate statements.


Lula, I totally respect what your saying and your feelings but in the current state of our country any muslim is not good. I can not vote for him, no matter what. The veterans in my family would either roll over in their graves or disown me. If I can sway any votes away from him I will do it.
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:55 am

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Lula wrote:i like hillary and i like barack, i even liked mccain before he fell into his party's line and backed bush's policies.


Me too Lula! I really liked McCain up until about a year ago. As soon as he decided to run for president, he seemed to give up his moderate stance, stopped arguing with Bush, and began rubber-stamping all of the Bush policies. I thought to myself, "What the fuck happened to McCain? He lost his independent spirit." At that point I lost all respect for him. Then when Obama came along and started talking some common sense for a change, I jumped on the Obama bandwagon and have been there ever since.

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No McCain has flipped on anything, always hasd a conservative streak. He has a lifetime rating of 84 from the Amerian Conservatives Union, been endorsed all along like string solid conservatives like Phil Gramm, Jack Kemp, ,.etc etc. He simply has a habit of thinking standing up for what is right regardless of who he pisses off,- whether its left right or center
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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:55 am

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ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


My father spent 18 years in prison. Does that make me a criminal?

Barack says he is a Christian. No true Muslim would deny their faith like that. It's against the Muslim doctrines to do so. Why not take Barack at his word?

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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:56 am

Voyager wrote:
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Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


My father spent 18 years in prison. Does that make me a criminal?

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my father was a drunk..does that make me a drun..whooops, bad example...
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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:59 am

ScarabGator wrote:
Voyager wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


My father spent 18 years in prison. Does that make me a criminal?

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my father was a drunk..does that make me a drun..whooops, bad example...


LOL! My dad was a drunk too. I stopped drinking several years ago. I have made it a goal to do the opposite of what my dad did, because he turned out to be a fucking loser. I think parents can influence us, but we ultimately choose our own path in life.

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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:02 am

Voyager wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Voyager wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


My father spent 18 years in prison. Does that make me a criminal?

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my father was a drunk..does that make me a drun..whooops, bad example...


LOL! My dad was a drunk too. I stopped drinking several years ago. I have made it a goal to do the opposite of what my dad did, because he turned out to be a fucking loser. I think parents can influence us, but we ultimately choose our own path in life.

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Your right, I wish I could get away from some of my dads traits but its hard and I find myself looking at him in the mirror. My dad was a good man, but very strict and he wanted you to follow his policies..shit, I cant begin to get into this, very complicated.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:09 am

Obama is hiding his religion for obvious reasons... Deep down he still is a muslim,, but for now , he HAS to say he is not one,,,,,
With his background and how he was brought up, there is no way he would totally give up his islamoc beliefs, considering both his dad and his stepdad were fanatic muslims.

The dad in prison example is a poor one. Now, Had you spend 18 years of your life with him in prision.....
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Postby Panther » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:10 am

ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


his mom is white, his father black. they met in hawaii. his father left when he was a baby. he attended a muslim school for 2 years and a catholic school for 2 years. big deal. it's comments like these that scare the hell out of me, it's that hope of instilling fear in people with terribly inaccurate statements.


Lula, I totally respect what your saying and your feelings but in the current state of our country any muslim is not good. I can not vote for him, no matter what. The veterans in my family would either roll over in their graves or disown me. If I can sway any votes away from him I will do it.


Bullshit says the little woman from the heart of redneck country. Complete and utter BULLSHIT. That's a blanket statement that is intended to paint a whole lot of great people (and children) with a yellow shit label. It's ignorance that gets this nation into the trouble it finds itself in ALL THE TIME.
You don't like his politics, his ideals, his stance on certain issues... fine, don't vote for the man. But to take a swipe at a growing number of muslims in this country based upon your ideas of what they "all" are or are not is just ignorance at its best. I don't mean to offend, but that shit pisses me off. I've already had years of dealing with this sort of crap after 9/11 on behalf of the four young muslim children (and their families) on my soccer team and the blatant ignorant shit that was thrown at them. I'll call people out on it every single time.

On the topic... I have no idea who the hell my vote will go to. Not a single one of them has given me meat and potatoes on the subjects important to me (though Hilary and Obama have thrown a few puffs out). Until that time, my vote is up in the air.
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:13 am

Panther wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Lula wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:Obama is from a muslim background. I dont care if hes owning up to it or not right now, he wants to get elected. AND thats just what this country needs at this time... :evil:


please explain this.

His father was a muslim. I dont think Barack knows what the hell he is.


his mom is white, his father black. they met in hawaii. his father left when he was a baby. he attended a muslim school for 2 years and a catholic school for 2 years. big deal. it's comments like these that scare the hell out of me, it's that hope of instilling fear in people with terribly inaccurate statements.


Lula, I totally respect what your saying and your feelings but in the current state of our country any muslim is not good. I can not vote for him, no matter what. The veterans in my family would either roll over in their graves or disown me. If I can sway any votes away from him I will do it.


Bullshit says the little woman from the heart of redneck country. Complete and utter BULLSHIT. That's a blanket statement that is intended to paint a whole lot of great people (and children) with a yellow shit label. It's ignorance that gets this nation into the trouble it finds itself in ALL THE TIME.
You don't like his politics, his ideals, his stance on certain issues... fine, don't vote for the man. But to take a swipe at a growing number of muslims in this country based upon your ideas of what they "all" are or are not is just ignorance at its best. I don't mean to offend, but that shit pisses me off. I've already had years of dealing with this sort of crap after 9/11 on behalf of the four young muslim children (and their families) on my soccer team and the blatant ignorant shit that was thrown at them. I'll call people out on it every single time.

On the topic... I have no idea who the hell my vote will go to. Not a single one of them has given me meat and potatoes on the subjects important to me (though Hilary and Obama have thrown a few puffs out). Until that time, my vote is up in the air.


Thats why we live in America, we can differ in opinions. All I know the majority of our international problems right now lie at the hands of muslims. And your right, I dont like his politics and BS.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:19 am

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Thats why we live in America, we can differ in opinions. All I know the majority of our international problems right now lie at the hands of muslims. And your right, I dont like his politics and BS.



Are you suggesting that George W. Bush is a muslim too??? Wouldnt surprise me, as close as he is to the bin laden family, if the fucker didnt take the Alllah Oath and bent over to pray at their annual get-together.
But seriously, to put the blame on a religion is a bit too idiotic my friend....
Those who cause the problem, arent the true muslim. they use a religion as an excuse ....
We'd have the same problem, if the same people youre accusing for workd problems, were mormons , jews or even hindus...... Its the PEOPLE and their crazy way of thinking,,,, not the religion.,...
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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:35 am

Behshad wrote:Obama is hiding his religion for obvious reasons... Deep down he still is a muslim,, but for now , he HAS to say he is not one,,,,,
With his background and how he was brought up, there is no way he would totally give up his islamoc beliefs, considering both his dad and his stepdad were fanatic muslims.

The dad in prison example is a poor one. Now, Had you spend 18 years of your life with him in prision.....


I was raised a Catholic but abandoned that faith long ago. I think much of it is ridiculous... like eating lobster during lent as a form of fasting... yeah right!

Obama has clearly abandoned any religious extremist tendencies just for the fact that he is a Democrat. Let's face it, Republicans are much more adamant about forcing their religious ideals on people than Democrats are. Democrats usually have a very liberal relgious outlook.

Either way, if Obama was a closet Muslim and started displaying Muslim extremist tendencies when he takes office, he would get impeached.

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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:37 am

Behshad wrote:Are you suggesting that George W. Bush is a muslim too??? Wouldnt surprise me, as close as he is to the bin laden family, if the fucker didnt take the Alllah Oath and bent over to pray at their annual get-together.


Bush definitely displays many more religious extremist behaviors than Obama does.

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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:44 am

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Behshad wrote:Obama is hiding his religion for obvious reasons... Deep down he still is a muslim,, but for now , he HAS to say he is not one,,,,,
With his background and how he was brought up, there is no way he would totally give up his islamoc beliefs, considering both his dad and his stepdad were fanatic muslims.

The dad in prison example is a poor one. Now, Had you spend 18 years of your life with him in prision.....


I was raised a Catholic but abandoned that faith long ago. I think much of it is ridiculous... like eating lobster during lent as a form of fasting... yeah right!

Obama has clearly abandoned any religious extremist tendencies just for the fact that he is a Democrat. Let's face it, Republicans are much more adamant about forcing their religious ideals on people than Democrats are. Democrats usually have a very liberal relgious outlook.

Either way, if Obama was a closet Muslim and started displaying Muslim extremist tendencies when he takes office, he would get impeached.
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but this country does not need to go thru that.
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Postby Voyager » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:46 am

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Behshad wrote:Obama is hiding his religion for obvious reasons... Deep down he still is a muslim,, but for now , he HAS to say he is not one,,,,,
With his background and how he was brought up, there is no way he would totally give up his islamoc beliefs, considering both his dad and his stepdad were fanatic muslims.

The dad in prison example is a poor one. Now, Had you spend 18 years of your life with him in prision.....


I was raised a Catholic but abandoned that faith long ago. I think much of it is ridiculous... like eating lobster during lent as a form of fasting... yeah right!

Obama has clearly abandoned any religious extremist tendencies just for the fact that he is a Democrat. Let's face it, Republicans are much more adamant about forcing their religious ideals on people than Democrats are. Democrats usually have a very liberal relgious outlook.

Either way, if Obama was a closet Muslim and started displaying Muslim extremist tendencies when he takes office, he would get impeached.
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but this country does not need to go thru that.


Well you know it won't happen because he's not a Muslim.

As far as impeachment goes, I cannot fathom why Bush has not been impeached yet.

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Postby Tomulator » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:19 am

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ScarabGator wrote:BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA...yeah, just who I want leading this country :roll: . Never wanted a Clinton to win anything more than now.


Who cares what his middle name or his skin color is? I've run into this kind of bigotry even with a few of my old friends. One of them even said they'd rather have a woman than a negro for president. How fucking redneckish! Obama has 500 times more common sense and intelligence than Bush does. We should all consider ourselves lucky that we have someone like Obama to clean up after Bush. If we didn't, our country would continue to go down the fucking drain while the entire world gazes on.

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Exactly HOW do you know this?

He hasn't DONE ANYTHING.

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How did people know Abraham Lincoln would be a good president? He had less political experience than any other president in history. But people knew he was a man of good judgement and intelligence because of his actions and what he had to say.

Obama is the same way. He was a constitutional professor before he ever ran for office. He has great common sense, good judgement, and is very intelligent. But what's even better is that he is a uniter and not a divider. He knows how to unite people for a common goal. Just look at how he has done this in his campaign. When is the last time we've had such a sweeping movement of people backing a presidential candidate like has happened with Obama? He's going to put the "united" back in the United States again.

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Let's see...are you a cherry or grape Kool-aid drinker?

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Postby Arkansas » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:19 pm

If Obama wins the general election...
When he's sworn in to office, what name will be read with his oath?

Won't his FULL name be part of it all?
Why is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama out of bounds now?
How will it read, IF, he's sworn in?


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Postby SteveForever » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:52 pm

Arkansas wrote:If Obama wins the general election...
When he's sworn in to office, what name will be read with his oath?

Won't his FULL name be part of it all?
Why is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama out of bounds now?
How will it read, IF, he's sworn in?


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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:58 pm

Arkansas wrote:If Obama wins the general election...
When he's sworn in to office, what name will be read with his oath?

Won't his FULL name be part of it all?
Why is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama out of bounds now?
How will it read, IF, he's sworn in?


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Boy you republicans really are stupid. Here I only thought you were all just ignorant and arrogant as well.

You DO know Obama is related to Dick Cheney right?

Oops, busted. Go Google it, it's true.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:00 pm

By the way, King Hussein of Jordan was a GREAT ally of the United States.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:42 am

Rockindeano wrote:You DO know Obama is related to Dick Cheney right?



Only if you consider a common relative 8 generations back a "relation." Obama is also Bush's 11th cousin. My guess is that this is most likely due to banging slaves, or as they were called at the time "indentured servants," since these common relatives date back to the mid to late 1600's. I guess Dave Chappelle wasn't too far off with his black Bush skit. If you have never seen this, it's fucking hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkAL5KtjC90
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Postby Rip Rokken » Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:55 am

Saint John wrote:or as they were called at the time "indentured servants," since these common relatives date back to the mid to late 1600's.


No one should have to work after the age that they've lost their natural teeth! It's simply un-American, I tell ya, unless you are so leveraged out on credit that you'll need to work until you are 120.

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