Journey in Oslo, Norway

[BeautifulJbaby]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP. I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

Don't start that crap. A lot of people here were very happy with the Job JSS was doing for the group. Last time I drank a beer with him, he still looked like a brown skin Puerto Rican to me.
You're saying, If certain people don't connect with AP like they did with SP, it's because of his skin color? What about Augeri, was that an issue with Wops some people were having then? No wonder you don't post much if that's the kind of garbage you like to spew.

I said that as an honest dissenting opinion to the person I was reacting to without even thinking of JSS or even Augeri. It was in reply to her opinion that AP can't connect to her like SP does. I just can't fathom why the person can't seem to connect with AP's way of singing. But then again at the end of the day, it's just personal taste like my hate of mayonnaise. I've read a lot of remarks against AP from his poor enunciation to the way he dresses up and I can't think of other reasons why some Perryloons just can't seem to like him for what AP is. So IMO, maybe the reason they don't like AP is because he doesn't personify what a lead singer should look like and AP destroyed that "image".

I don't post a lot because I have a job...and life.

[Jana]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP. I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

Re SPFIO, I have to laugh when someone who has never seen Arnel says he dresses like Perry and uses gestures like Perry. Not one ounce like Perry in those respects as anyone who went to a concert will state. He has his own unique style and never once acts like Perry on stage, far from it. Even Perry Loon Gunbot will back me up on this. No one has to like a certain singer after Perry. I could care less. I didn't care for JSS in the least for Journey, but respect others, like Deb, who did and loved him. But idiotic statements like I just mentioned from someone who has never attended a concert show, and couldn't differentiate tween Perry and JSS a few months ago, is just what I stated, idiotic.

BB, I don't believe she has any problems b/c he's not white.

Maybe she is confusing Arnel with Hugo.

[Don]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP. I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

Don't start that crap. A lot of people here were very happy with the Job JSS was doing for the group. Last time I drank a beer with him, he still looked like a brown skin Puerto Rican to me.
You're saying, If certain people don't connect with AP like they did with SP, it's because of his skin color? What about Augeri, was that an issue with Wops some people were having then? No wonder you don't post much if that's the kind of garbage you like to spew.

I said that as an honest dissenting opinion to the person I was reacting to without even thinking of JSS or even Augeri. It was in reply to her opinion that AP can't connect to her like SP does. I just can't fathom why the person can't seem to connect with AP's way of singing. But then again at the end of the day, it's just personal taste like my hate of mayonnaise. I've read a lot of remarks against AP from his poor enunciation to the way he dresses up and I can't think of other reasons why some Perryloons just can't seem to like him for what AP is. So IMO, maybe the reason they don't like AP is because he doesn't personify what a lead singer should look like and AP destroyed that "image".

I don't post a lot because I have a job...and life.

Some people just prefer the only version of Journey they grew up with. When people push them about why they don't like the latest replacement, that's when all the other stuff comes out about stage presence, annunciation, height, blah, blah, blah.
We had a discussion somewhere else about this. Some of us Tie together the lineup with our memories and dont feel like breaking that bond, nothing wrong with that, just the excuses that typically come with it.
Get dual monitors at work and you can post all day like me depending on your job. One monitor has all my spreadsheets and the other is for the web.

[BeautifulJbaby]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP. I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

Don't start that crap. A lot of people here were very happy with the Job JSS was doing for the group. Last time I drank a beer with him, he still looked like a brown skin Puerto Rican to me.
You're saying, If certain people don't connect with AP like they did with SP, it's because of his skin color? What about Augeri, was that an issue with Wops some people were having then? No wonder you don't post much if that's the kind of garbage you like to spew.

I said that as an honest dissenting opinion to the person I was reacting to without even thinking of JSS or even Augeri. It was in reply to her opinion that AP can't connect to her like SP does. I just can't fathom why the person can't seem to connect with AP's way of singing. But then again at the end of the day, it's just personal taste like my hate of mayonnaise. I've read a lot of remarks against AP from his poor enunciation to the way he dresses up and I can't think of other reasons why some Perryloons just can't seem to like him for what AP is. So IMO, maybe the reason they don't like AP is because he doesn't personify what a lead singer should look like and AP destroyed that "image".

I don't post a lot because I have a job...and life.

Some people just prefer the only version of Journey they grew up with. When people push about them about why they don't like the latest replacement, that's when all the other stuff comes out about stage presence, annunciation, height, blah, blah, blah.
We had a discussion somewhere else about this. Some of us Tie together the lineup with our memories and dont feel like breaking that bond, nothing wrong with that, just the excuses that typically come with it.
Get dual monitors at work and you can post all day like me depending on your job. One monitor has all my spreadsheets and the other is for the web.

LOL!!! I have a strange feeling you're my new BFF.

[Gideon]

I think that some people are looking to find faults that aren't there. Pineda is mimicking Perry's fashion sense? Jesus H. Christ. Where? Where are the tails? The tuxedo jackets? The tight jeans? The leopard-fucking-print shirts? The blouses?

A profound difference between Pineda and Perry is that Pineda actually possesses some measure of fashion sense.

Since we're pulling cheap comparisons out of our asses, Perry ripped his entire method of vocalization straight from Sam Cooke.

(The difference is that my "cheap comparison" is valid.)

I win.

[weatherman90]

Ok, back on topic...

Where is ONNNNNEEE MOORRRRRREEEEE?

[Rick]

Ok, back on topic...

Where is ONNNNNEEE MOORRRRRREEEEE?

No idea. I've searched high and low for it.

[Jana]

Ok, back on topic...

Where is ONNNNNEEE MOORRRRRREEEEE?

No idea. I've searched high and low for it.

I can't believe it. Same old videos of same songs and not One More. What's wrong with these metal heads? They're videoing Faithfully instead? Wimps. I love One More.

[aliaslen]

Which lead singer sang ONE MORE?

[Saint John]

Which lead singer sang ONE MORE?

Arnel, by all accounts.

[artist4perry]

I think that some people are looking to find faults that aren't there. Pineda is mimicking Perry's fashion sense? Jesus H. Christ. Where? Where are the tails? The tuxedo jackets? The tight jeans? The leopard-fucking-print shirts? The blouses?

A profound difference between Pineda and Perry is that Pineda actually possesses some measure of fashion sense.

Since we're pulling cheap comparisons out of our asses, Perry ripped his entire method of vocalization straight from Sam Cooke.

(The difference is that my "cheap comparison" is valid.)

I win.

Fasion sense for NOW. Some kids now think their underwear is outerwear. And wearing your crotch around your knees is fassionable. Look at the times.............. Giddy some of you are of this Generation, and your oppinions are also of such. And since Arnel learned to sing Journey songs from Steve would he not be influenced by Sam Cooke, who by the way is also good?

Arnel is a good singer and I agree, the comparisons are cheep. Steve left a great legacy. It is all good! I enjoy both...........so I win! (and so do you!)

[aliaslen]

Which lead singer sang ONE MORE?

Arnel, by all accounts.

Thanks, but the vid performance is nowhere to be found.

[Gideon]

Fasion sense for NOW. Some kids now think their underwear is outerwear. And wearing your crotch around your knees is fassionable. Look at the times.............. Giddy some of you are of this Generation, and your oppinions are also of such. And since Arnel learned to sing Journey songs from Steve would he not be influenced by Sam Cooke, who by the way is also good?

Which is why the comparisons are ridiculous and unnecessary. The fact that they sing similar doesn't mean he's ripping the man off.

Arnel is a good singer and I agree, the comparisons are cheep. Steve left a great legacy. It is all good! I enjoy both...........so I win! (and so do you!)

Indeed.

[G.I.Jim]

Fasion sense for NOW. Some kids now think their underwear is outerwear. And wearing your crotch around your knees is fassionable. Look at the times.............. Giddy some of you are of this Generation, and your oppinions are also of such. And since Arnel learned to sing Journey songs from Steve would he not be influenced by Sam Cooke, who by the way is also good?

Which is why the comparisons are ridiculous and unnecessary. The fact that they sing similar doesn't mean he's ripping the man off.

Arnel is a good singer and I agree, the comparisons are cheep. Steve left a great legacy. It is all good! I enjoy both...........so I win! (and so do you!)

Indeed.

Gideon... you keep getting sassy in here, and you're getting put over my knee boy! Respect your elders and eat your damn green beans!!! There is SO much more to life then trying to debate over who's wrong or right on EVERY issue or statement that pops up. Just go pop in the damn Houston Journey dvd, then the Vegas dvd, then the dvd from Revalation. My point? We have always had great Journey music to enjoy. The band has changed singers several times, yet have continued to make awesome music for decades (with the exception of Red13 and Generations!!!). With the history of the band... there will always be people who like one person over another. If they post as much... they're just stating their opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Granted, some people in here can come off as arrogant or "know-it-all's", but it's all good! Just fire up a damn album, drink some beer (nevermind...you're not old enough!) and be happy. Just saying.

[Gideon]

Gideon... you keep getting sassy in here, and you're getting put over my knee boy!

A fantasy of yours?

Respect your elders

No. When someone explains how the passage of time warrants greater respect than those whose lives are relatively shorter, I'll submit, but until then: respect is earned. By all ages.

and eat your damn green beans!!!

I love me some green beans.

There is SO much more to life then trying to debate over who's wrong or right on EVERY issue or statement that pops up.

Not really, no. I would argue (lol) that debate, the fundamental expression of our points of view and the defense of our opinions is one of the most important things in life. This world engenders the mentality that everyone is entitled to be an ass or be stupid without consequence. My way, we all learn.

Just go pop in the damn Houston Journey dvd, then the Vegas dvd, then the dvd from Revalation. My point? We have always had great Journey music to enjoy. The band has changed singers several times, yet have continued to make awesome music for decades (with the exception of Red13 and Generations!!!). With the history of the band... there will always be people who like one person over another. If they post as much... they're just stating their opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Granted, some people in here can come off as arrogant or "know-it-all's", but it's all good! Just fire up a damn album, drink some beer (nevermind...you're not old enough!) and be happy. Just saying.

I don't understand what you mean. I couldn't give a shit if everyone on the planet preferred Perry over Pineda. So do I. I just prefer reasons beyond "lul Pineda poses off of Perry even in wardrobe!1 lul." Such opinions suggest that the ones offering them are inept or blind.

Or both.

[artist4perry]

Gideon... you keep getting sassy in here, and you're getting put over my knee boy!

A fantasy of yours?

Respect your elders

No. When someone explains how the passage of time warrants greater respect than those whose lives are relatively shorter, I'll submit, but until then: respect is earned. By all ages.

and eat your damn green beans!!!

I love me some green beans.

There is SO much more to life then trying to debate over who's wrong or right on EVERY issue or statement that pops up.

Not really, no. I would argue (lol) that debate, the fundamental expression of our points of view and the defense of our opinions is one of the most important things in life. This world engenders the mentality that everyone is entitled to be an ass or be stupid without consequence. My way, we all learn.

Just go pop in the damn Houston Journey dvd, then the Vegas dvd, then the dvd from Revalation. My point? We have always had great Journey music to enjoy. The band has changed singers several times, yet have continued to make awesome music for decades (with the exception of Red13 and Generations!!!). With the history of the band... there will always be people who like one person over another. If they post as much... they're just stating their opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Granted, some people in here can come off as arrogant or "know-it-all's", but it's all good! Just fire up a damn album, drink some beer (nevermind...you're not old enough!) and be happy. Just saying.

I don't understand what you mean. I couldn't give a shit if everyone on the planet preferred Perry over Pineda. So do I. I just prefer reasons beyond "lul Pineda poses off of Perry even in wardrobe!1 lul." Such opinions suggest that the ones offering them are inept or blind.

Or both.

He is sayin lighten up, stop disecting every sentence, and laugh a little will ya? LOL! Not rocket science.............

[SP Fan in Oregon]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP. I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

I just got home from a night on the town to find this crap written by Beautiful JBaby, why he thinks I prefer Perry over Arnel. News Flash: Beautiful J, Steve Perry isn't a WHITE GUY Either. He's 100% Portuguese! If it was a color issue, why would I prefer a Portuguese guy over an Asian guy? You need to take Logic 101 before you start posting on MR. When Arnel sings Don't Stop Believin, when he sings the part of , "on and on and on" he uses the exact same hand gestures as Steve perry used when he sang that song. Steve also ran from one end of the stage to the other, jumped up onto the platforms, all kinds of antics that I think were very natural and part of his enthusiasm and passion. When Arnel moves about the stage, his antics do not seem to fit with the music. I don't dislike Arnel as a person. I think he got a very lucky break and wish him the best, but I do not care for his singing and it doesn't move me like Perry's voice. I don't need to see either singer in concert because everything I say is apparent to me from the videos of both singers. I'm not asking anyone here to agree with me. I can see there are many who disagree, but I'm not attacking your opinion like some of you like to do when anyone else posts their opinion. However, this Beautiful Jerk Baby pulled this prejudice thing right out of his ass without any logical basis for it.

[mdaemon]

I think that some people are looking to find faults that aren't there. Pineda is mimicking Perry's fashion sense? Jesus H. Christ. Where? Where are the tails? The tuxedo jackets? The tight jeans? The leopard-fucking-print shirts? The blouses?

A profound difference between Pineda and Perry is that Pineda actually possesses some measure of fashion sense.

Since we're pulling cheap comparisons out of our asses, Perry ripped his entire method of vocalization straight from Sam Cooke.

(The difference is that my "cheap comparison" is valid.)

I win.

I agree. Though in fairness to Perry, the stuff he used to wear wasn't too horrible during that time. The 80s IMO is the forgotten decade when it comes to fashion

[Voyager]

I think that some people are looking to find faults that aren't there. Pineda is mimicking Perry's fashion sense? Jesus H. Christ. Where? Where are the tails? The tuxedo jackets? The tight jeans? The leopard-fucking-print shirts? The blouses?

A profound difference between Pineda and Perry is that Pineda actually possesses some measure of fashion sense.

Since we're pulling cheap comparisons out of our asses, Perry ripped his entire method of vocalization straight from Sam Cooke.

(The difference is that my "cheap comparison" is valid.)

I win.

I agree. Though in fairness to Perry, the stuff he used to wear wasn't too horrible during that time. The 80s IMO is the forgotten decade when it comes to fashion

Perry was modest compared to other singers from that day such as Elton John, Steven Tyler, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, etc.

At least he never wore a fucking duck suit.

[mdaemon]

I think that some people are looking to find faults that aren't there. Pineda is mimicking Perry's fashion sense? Jesus H. Christ. Where? Where are the tails? The tuxedo jackets? The tight jeans? The leopard-fucking-print shirts? The blouses?

A profound difference between Pineda and Perry is that Pineda actually possesses some measure of fashion sense.

Since we're pulling cheap comparisons out of our asses, Perry ripped his entire method of vocalization straight from Sam Cooke.

(The difference is that my "cheap comparison" is valid.)

I win.

I agree. Though in fairness to Perry, the stuff he used to wear wasn't too horrible during that time. The 80s IMO is the forgotten decade when it comes to fashion

Perry was modest compared to other singers from that day such as Elton John, Steven Tyler, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, etc.

At least he never wore a fucking duck suit.

Dude, you can't compare SP to those two singers. SP is a dude while those two are women

[BeautifulJbaby]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. . I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

I just got home from a night on the town to find this crap written by Beautiful JBaby, why he thinks I prefer Perry over Arnel. News Flash: Beautiful J, Steve Perry isn't a WHITE GUY Either. He's 100% Portuguese! If it was a color issue, why would I prefer a Portuguese guy over an Asian guy? You need to take Logic 101 before you start posting on MR. When Arnel sings Don't Stop Believin, when he sings the part of , "on and on and on" he uses the exact same hand gestures as Steve perry used when he sang that song. Steve also ran from one end of the stage to the other, jumped up onto the platforms, all kinds of antics that I think were very natural and part of his enthusiasm and passion. When Arnel moves about the stage, his antics do not seem to fit with the music. I don't dislike Arnel as a person. I think he got a very lucky break and wish him the best, but I do not care for his singing and it doesn't move me like Perry's voice. I don't need to see either singer in concert because everything I say is apparent to me from the videos of both singers. I'm not asking anyone here to agree with me. I can see there are many who disagree, but I'm not attacking your opinion like some of you like to do when anyone else posts their opinion. However, this Beautiful Jerk Baby pulled this prejudice thing right out of his ass without any logical basis for it.

In this forum, once you post a thread or reply to a thread be prepared to agree or dissent. Opinions are relative and so people in this forum may or may not agree with you. So when you say, " AP can't connect I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP, you are inviting people to react and this is what you get. I've seen AP performed live in Seattle last year and found him to be an excellent singer and performer. Unfortunately I never had the chance to see SP perform live but I know he was an excellent singer. I can't compare both. They're both excellent singers of Journey. One is past and the other present. In the future, another lead singer will take the helm and I hope he won't be compared to either SP or AP. But I know that won't happen because that's part of our nature.

Oopps... the correct pronoun for me is she and by the way, I hope you had a good dinner in the town.

[SP Fan in Oregon]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. . I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

I just got home from a night on the town to find this crap written by Beautiful JBaby, why he thinks I prefer Perry over Arnel. News Flash: Beautiful J, Steve Perry isn't a WHITE GUY Either. He's 100% Portuguese! If it was a color issue, why would I prefer a Portuguese guy over an Asian guy? You need to take Logic 101 before you start posting on MR. When Arnel sings Don't Stop Believin, when he sings the part of , "on and on and on" he uses the exact same hand gestures as Steve perry used when he sang that song. Steve also ran from one end of the stage to the other, jumped up onto the platforms, all kinds of antics that I think were very natural and part of his enthusiasm and passion. When Arnel moves about the stage, his antics do not seem to fit with the music. I don't dislike Arnel as a person. I think he got a very lucky break and wish him the best, but I do not care for his singing and it doesn't move me like Perry's voice. I don't need to see either singer in concert because everything I say is apparent to me from the videos of both singers. I'm not asking anyone here to agree with me. I can see there are many who disagree, but I'm not attacking your opinion like some of you like to do when anyone else posts their opinion. However, this Beautiful Jerk Baby pulled this prejudice thing right out of his ass without any logical basis for it.

In this forum, once you post a thread or reply to a thread be prepared to agree or dissent. Opinions are relative and so people in this forum may or may not agree with you. So when you say, " AP can't connect I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP, you are inviting people to react and this is what you get. I've seen AP performed live in Seattle last year and found him to be an excellent singer and performer. Unfortunately I never had the chance to see SP perform live but I know he was an excellent singer. I can't compare both. They're both excellent singers of Journey. One is past and the other present. In the future, another lead singer will take the helm and I hope he won't be compared to either SP or AP. But I know that won't happen because that's part of our nature.

Oopps... the correct pronoun for me is she and by the way, I hope you had a good dinner in the town.

The only thing I like about you is your Johnny Depp Avatar. You can't be all that bad if you are a Johnny Depp fan. I've met him three times and he is a most beautiful sweet man.
and Yes, I had a great party. It was my birthday today, so be nice to me.

[Voyager]

You know I watched all those Oslo videos of Arnel singing posted here. It just occurred to me what it is about
Arnel's singing the Journey songs as compared to Steve Perry singing the Journey songs, and why I prefer SP's singing
over Arnel. The bottom line for me is that when Steve Perry sings the songs his voice moves me in my heart and soul, his passion
as he sings the song can be felt in the heart and soul of the listener. When I hear Perry sing the songs, almost ANY song he sings,
his voice touches me deeply and can take my breath away, make me sit down during a busy day and just listen in awe. When
I see Perry running and jumping on the stage in videos, as he sings, his actions seem so natural to me, not staged, just pure passion and glee
as he is singing. His enthusiasm is infectious. I do not feel anything when Arnel sings the very same songs. I'm bored. . I am only stating my opinion, and I do not mean to offend
Arnel supporters. I think Arnel is doing the job he was hired to do and doing the best he can do. I don't wish for Perry to get back with Journey, and I'm not hanging
onto the old days of Perry and Journey. I'm only saying why I prefer Perry's singing and why I think Arnel is not even in the same ballpark
with Perry in terms of connecting with the listener when he sings.

AP is not impersonating SP. Just because AP sings eerily almost like Perry one can say AP is impersonating Perry. Methinks you just cannot accept the fact the Journey has been rescuscitated back from the grave. IMO, you have an issue with AP. That "I can't connect with AP like the way SP does" is a total crap, IMO. I am pretty sure there's more to it than "connection". I pretty much believe you won't be saying this crap if Journey hired a white guy to do the job. But guess what??? methinks AP is doing a great job and he connects right through. Why don't you ask those who recently watched Journey in Oslo and Dublin???

Grow up, child.

I just got home from a night on the town to find this crap written by Beautiful JBaby, why he thinks I prefer Perry over Arnel. News Flash: Beautiful J, Steve Perry isn't a WHITE GUY Either. He's 100% Portuguese! If it was a color issue, why would I prefer a Portuguese guy over an Asian guy? You need to take Logic 101 before you start posting on MR. When Arnel sings Don't Stop Believin, when he sings the part of , "on and on and on" he uses the exact same hand gestures as Steve perry used when he sang that song. Steve also ran from one end of the stage to the other, jumped up onto the platforms, all kinds of antics that I think were very natural and part of his enthusiasm and passion. When Arnel moves about the stage, his antics do not seem to fit with the music. I don't dislike Arnel as a person. I think he got a very lucky break and wish him the best, but I do not care for his singing and it doesn't move me like Perry's voice. I don't need to see either singer in concert because everything I say is apparent to me from the videos of both singers. I'm not asking anyone here to agree with me. I can see there are many who disagree, but I'm not attacking your opinion like some of you like to do when anyone else posts their opinion. However, this Beautiful Jerk Baby pulled this prejudice thing right out of his ass without any logical basis for it.

In this forum, once you post a thread or reply to a thread be prepared to agree or dissent. Opinions are relative and so people in this forum may or may not agree with you. So when you say, " AP can't connect I think
it is because he is impersonating SP right down to wearing all white clothes and copying gestures of SP, you are inviting people to react and this is what you get. I've seen AP performed live in Seattle last year and found him to be an excellent singer and performer. Unfortunately I never had the chance to see SP perform live but I know he was an excellent singer. I can't compare both. They're both excellent singers of Journey. One is past and the other present. In the future, another lead singer will take the helm and I hope he won't be compared to either SP or AP. But I know that won't happen because that's part of our nature.

Oopps... the correct pronoun for me is she and by the way, I hope you had a good dinner in the town.

The only thing I like about you is your Johnny Depp Avatar. You can't be all that bad if you are a Johnny Depp fan. I've met him three times and he is a most beautiful sweet man.
and Yes, I had a great party. It was my birthday today, so be nice to me.

Are you wearing your birthday suit?

[portland]

SP was one of the most homeliest, feminine looking singers out there. That in itself shows just how great his voice was when chics, who would probably never give him the time of day ended up giving him blowjobs in backstage hallways.

...for FREE!

Damn! That's some voice...

[Jana]

Want to know what's gets real old? Is when you and Madsplash constantly display your Perry opinions in threads that have nothing to do with Perry...


Let me spell it out to you....If someone wants to sing the praises of Augeri w/ Journey, JSS w/ Journey, or Arnel w/Journey, we really don't need to be reminded on how great Perry was.


Perry is GONE....Fucking get over it.

Start all the Perry threads you want...This forum celebrates past, present, and future Journey.....

But for the love of GOD, can you stop trying to derail a thread that praises Post-Perry Journey.

And as far as your quote "I just don't like the music that they have put out with him" , I call bullshit ..... If it was Perry, back in Journey, singing the very same songs, arranged the same way, with the same lyrics, you'd be praising it like it was the greatest comeback in musical history.

RIGHT ON. GREAT POST... You're my friggin' hero.

+2

[weatherman90]

Which lead singer sang ONE MORE?

I assumed it was Arnel, but now you got me thinking. I think the song really would suit Deen's voice quite well.

[Glenn]

I am so happy to hear he finds Steve Perry's voice to be very distincitve.......and he loves the quality....wow that is such news to me

Do you... have a problem?

She's still pissed that Journey replaced a few singers and chose to go on, apparently. Also it's very clear that for whatever reason, she has more than just a passing dislike for AP.

I have NEVER said that I don't like AP as a person.....I just don't like the music that they have put out with him....and that is my opinion...I do like the songs that Deen has taken on he sounds really great IMO....I know you don't feel the same and that is fine with me.....just don't cram your opinion down my throat.

Want to know what's gets real old? Is when you and Madsplash constantly display your Perry opinions in threads that have nothing to do with Perry...


Let me spell it out to you....If someone wants to sing the praises of Augeri w/ Journey, JSS w/ Journey, or Arnel w/Journey, we really don't need to be reminded on how great Perry was.


Perry is GONE....Fucking get over it.

Start all the Perry threads you want...This forum celebrates past, present, and future Journey.....

But for the love of GOD, can you stop trying to derail a thread that praises Post-Perry Journey.

And as far as your quote "I just don't like the music that they have put out with him" , I call bullshit ..... If it was Perry, back in Journey, singing the very same songs, arranged the same way, with the same lyrics, you'd be praising it like it was the greatest comeback in musical history.

I don't agree with you....but hey it sounds like your the one with the agression problem not me.....

What do you not agree with ?

Are you saying that it's ok to come in and derail threads that have nothing to do with Steve Perry?

Are you saying it's ok to state your opinion over and over and over again in NON Perry threads ?

Tell me professor, what do you not agree with?

Listen I am not the only one nor is Madsplash that has derailed a thread with a comment regarding Steve Perry....and there are plenty of people who restate their opinions over and over again...in Perry and Non Perry threads....so that is the first two things I do not agree with.


Lastly....just and FYI I did like alot for what Journey did with SA....so if I was truly a bitter bitch that needs to get laid (your words not mine) would I say that here?

WTF - I thought this was a board that people discussed their opinions on....so if I am to follow your instructions I should only post my opinions in a thread that has Steve Perry in the title?!

Just want to make sure I understand as I did not get the formal handbook on posting on MR....and I guess you have decided that you are the self appointed thread police.

nope...just someone that sometimes gets pissed off when cult-like Perry fans come in constantly and throw their Perry flag every single fucking time people have good things to say about Arnel.

Or the kind of Perry fan that tells someone that their high for liking Revelation.


As I said, you and madsplash are entertaining...

We could have a drinking game....Everytime Portland and Madsplash "do their stuff" we have to take a drink...Could be fun...who knows ?!


And one more thing...I didn't realize you were a woman....my bad on the "needs to get laid" comment. I apologize for that.

[portland]

You can say what you want.....yes I am a Steve Perry fan and that is not a hidden fact.

I am sorry if you feel that every time I post on a thread....it is a derailment..I will be more careful where I post, but I thought all opinions were welcomed....I guess not.

but I don't like Revelation and that is my own personal choice...I am glad you like it and that makes it great for you...I bought it, listened to it and don't care for it...and that is my view and not yours.

For me Journey is a band of the past that I listen to and have great memories from...I don't want that changed in my head and that is my choice.

So I guess we will agree to disagree and I will hope for more solo stuff from Perry and you go to a Journey concert and have a beer for me....for I will be listening to my newly remastered cd's by he who cannot be named for fear of a thread derailment!

[SP Fan in Oregon]

You can say what you want.....yes I am a Steve Perry fan and that is not a hidden fact.

I am sorry if you feel that every time I post on a thread....it is a derailment..I will be more careful where I post, but I thought all opinions were welcomed....I guess not.

but I don't like Revelation and that is my own personal choice...I am glad you like it and that makes it great for you...I bought it, listened to it and don't care for it...and that is my view and not yours.

For me Journey is a band of the past that I listen to and have great memories from...I don't want that changed in my head and that is my choice.

So I guess we will agree to disagree and I will hope for more solo stuff from Perry and you go to a Journey concert and have a beer for me....for I will be listening to my newly remastered cd's by he who cannot be named for fear of a thread derailment!

[parfait]

Damn, you women are crazy. Arnel does not in any way mimick Perry on stage. Oh, and it was Arnel who sang One More, and I still haven't manage to find someone who has a video of it.