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Radio Station "Payola", Settled

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:48 am
by Rockindeano
What a bunch of shit..A lousy 5 million, and they're off the hook...In my mind, it was worth the fines...

Here ya go, from the good ol Los Angeles Times...

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?fi ... &sec=world


Warner settles pay-offs probe

ALBANY (New York): Warner Music Group Corp has agreed to pay US$5mil (RM18.8mil) to settle an investigation into payoffs for radio airplay of artistes, New York Attorney-General Eliot Spitzer said.

Warner is the second major recording company to reform and settle with Spitzer in a practice the attorney-general said was “pervasive”. In July, Sony BMG Music Entertainment agreed to pay US$10mil (RM37.7mil) and stop bribing radio stations to feature artistes.

“Unfortunately, other companies continue to engage” in the practices, Spitzer said on Tuesday.

“I applaud Warner's decision to halt this conduct, cooperate fully with my office, and adopt new business practices.”

The money that Warner Music has agreed to pay in the civil settlement will be distributed by the Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors to New York State to fund music programmes in the state.

“The reforms we have agreed to with the attorney-general are consistent with the internal reforms that our new management team implemented earlier this year,” said Warner Music spokesman Will Tanous.

“We consider this to have been a valuable process. From our perspective, radio cannot be too consumer-driven. The music that people hear on the radio always should represent the highest quality the industry has to offer.”

Spitzer said the settlements with Sony BMG, a joint venture of Sony Corp and Bertelsmann AG, and Warner should benefit artistes and consumers, who can expect a wider range of artistes on the airwaves based on “artistic merits.”

“Artistes, especially new artistes and lesser known artistes who did not have major backing, should find a more open environment to have their music heard and hopefully succeed,” said Spitzer, a Democrat running for governor in 2006.

A 1960 federal law and related state laws bar record companies from offering undisclosed financial incentives in exchange for airplay.

The practice was called “payola,” a contraction of”pay” and “Victrola,” the old wind-up record player. – AP

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:26 am
by ohsherrie
I hope this helps, but I'm afraid that until we get a more "average consumer" friendly government these corporations will just find another loophole that the government will allow them to jump through.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:38 pm
by Rockindeano
Funny how Angie won't comment..

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:22 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:Funny how Angie won't comment..


Because you don't really give a shit what people have to say, Deano, unless they agree with you. Otherwise you just swear at them and tell them they are wrong and you're right.

No thanks. Done with your game. I'll save my posts for someone who can have a mature conversation with me.






PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:57 am
by Rockindeano
Angiekay wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:Funny how Angie won't comment..


Because you don't really give a shit what people have to say, Deano, unless they agree with you. Otherwise you just swear at them and tell them they are wrong and you're right.

No thanks. Done with your game. I'll save my posts for someone who can have a mature conversation with me.







Ok, your choice. I didn;'t mean it to be mean. I really wanted your opinion. O well, be done then..

A "mature conversation with you" would be discussing where to go get donuts.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:26 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:Ok, your choice. I didn;'t mean it to be mean. I really wanted your opinion.


LMAO...riiiight.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:28 pm
by Rockindeano
Ok, I will ask you again.

Do you think this settlement will deter future payolas to record spinners...??

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:29 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:Ok, I will ask you again.

Do you think this settlement will deter future payolas to record spinners...??



Krisy Kreme.


PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:34 pm
by Rockindeano
NIG and 13 were exactly right.

You have ZERO intelligence.
You can't argue your "point."
You post and run
You can't sensibly state your case


My summation Angie? Your future is limited. Better start enrolling at Truck Drivers school.....Because terrestrial radio is dead.


And don't bitch at me..I gave you 2 chances to comment..

Now stuff your piehole..Image


I would LOVE to unload on you.....However, "EYES" are watching me(and no, it's not Bossman)...

You all can't say I personally attacked her.....She just made an ass out of herself.....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:49 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:NIG and 13 were exactly right.

You have ZERO intelligence.
You can't argue your "point."
You post and run
You can't sensibly state your case


My summation Angie? Your future is limited. Better start enrolling at Truck Drivers school.....Because terrestrial radio is dead.


And don't bitch at me..I gave you 2 chances to comment..

Now stuff your piehole..Image


I would LOVE to unload on you.....However, "EYES" are watching me(and no, it's not Bossman)...

You all can't say I personally attacked her.....She just made an ass out of herself.....



Thanks for proving my point above. You're as predictable as a menstral cramp and just as big of a pain.



PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:50 pm
by Rockindeano
Yet STILL, You cannot answer a question.

This is an easy thread to read..and to see you are a giant douche..

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:56 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:Yet STILL, You cannot answer a question.

This is an easy thread to read..and to see you are a giant douche..


I told you WHY I wouldn't answer it, yet you egg on and on because you have to prove yet again in this thread, like every other, you are right and you have the biggest mouth and you can insult the most. You will always win in that department, Deano, congratulations. Again, you have ASOLUTELY no interest in my comments, as show in the post above. You just want someone to insult.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:58 pm
by Rockindeano
No no and no.


God I am sorry I invited you over here...

I will ask you again, for the 4th time....Will this settlement be an deterrent?

I promise I won't insult you...Never my intention...Also, anyone I insult pretty much deserves it......

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:32 am
by sngrchk04
“Artistes, especially new artistes and lesser known artistes who did not have major backing, should find a more open environment to have their music heard and hopefully succeed,” said Spitzer, a Democrat running for governor in 2006.


One can only hope....sigh.....

PS ~ RND - your avatar - it looks like Freddie Prinze from "Chico and The Man" dressed up as Steve P. :shock: :wink: 8)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:32 am
by Red13JoePa
...Jingle all the WAY... :D

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:44 am
by Rockindeano
Notice Angie packed up her fat ass and limped back to the Twigs board? Never did answer the "serious" question.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:01 am
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:I promise I won't insult you...Never my intention


(oh, but wait....!)

Notice Angie packed up her fat ass and limped back to the Twigs board? Never did answer the "serious" question.



Deano, you're so sexy when you talk out of both ends of your as...I mean mouth.



PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:03 am
by Rockindeano
Too late, Witch.. You had your chance to respond 4 times. Drag your droopy, fat ass outta here.

Back to your little Twigs site...wench

I have a Helluva lot more credibility here than you do.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:08 am
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:Too late, Witch.. You had your chance to respond 4 times. Drag your droopy, fat ass outta here.

Back to your little Twigs site...wench

I have a Helluva lot more credibility here than you do.


LMAO....THAT is the funniest thing I've heard all day. Crediblity for what? Being the biggest jerk? I'll agree with you there.

Gosh...I"m so heartbroken. Deano won't let me play his game.
He's insulting me again, wait he's not,..wait he is, wait he's not. LOL...gosh, the things I'm missing out on... :(


PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:23 am
by Rockindeano
I don't give a shit if Andrew wants to scold me for this one or not. The proof is in the entire thread.

I asked you to respond to a question..YOU still haven't. You are more full of shit than a porta potty, and I bet your breath smells about the same. Go to Hell Angie..I am NOT being a jerk here..I asked you a question 4 times!

You simply cannot answer it. Now, who is the troublemaker?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:03 am
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:I don't give a shit if Andrew wants to scold me for this one or not. The proof is in the entire thread.

I asked you to respond to a question..YOU still haven't. You are more full of shit than a porta potty, and I bet your breath smells about the same. Go to Hell Angie..I am NOT being a jerk here..I asked you a question 4 times!

You simply cannot answer it. Now, who is the troublemaker?

Lick my balls Angie.Image


And I told you FOUR times I wouldn't because you're such an egoistical asshole who can't have a civil debate, which you have MORE than proven to the masses here(as if they haven't seen it a hundred times before). You didn't ASK me the first time, you made a snide comment as to why *I* wouldn't comment. Even through NIG and I's differences in the past, he is decent enough to ASK me my opinion(and actually want to hear the answer). I can't help it if you're too big of an idiot to understand me saying I wasn't going to debate you in the first place. NOBODY takes you seriously here Deano because you're rude, impolite, non bending and you don't care about anyone's opinion but YOURS. Even those who you call your "friends" here are too afraid to tell you what an ass you are, because you don't discriminate. I'm sure you'd rip your best friends head off if you thought it would make you look cool.

You're sad, Deano. You can't understand the concept of catching more flies with honey then vinegar or being civil with people or even trying to understand them. You can't talk without swearing or name calling. You have to insult anyone who disagrees or doesn't see things your way. You talk nice until someone doesn't conform to what you want then you "unload" on them. It's no wonder you sit on a message board and type behind a screen. I'm sure people in the real world quit dealing with your behavior long ago.


PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:19 am
by Rockindeano
Angiekay wrote:And I told you FOUR times I wouldn't because you're such an egoistical asshole who can't have a civil debate,


No, actually you declined once. The other 3 times you avoided the question.


You didn't ASK me the first time, you made a snide comment as to why *I* wouldn't comment.


Really? You can read through the typed words of a person 2500 miles away, that snide was part of his emotion? You are a psychic.


Even through NIG and I's differences



And YOU are intelligent? NIG and I's? oh, ok.

I can't help it if you're too big of an idiot to understand me saying I wasn't going to debate you in the first place.


And I can't help it that you can't read. I asked you for a comment, NOT a debate.

NOBODY takes you seriously here


Yes they do....

Deano because you're rude, impolite, non bending and you don't care about anyone's opinion but YOURS.


Partly true. I speak my mind, but also apologize when I should, and admit fault when i'm wrong. The rest of my story is passion. I do have passion in my argument..if you are going to debate something or someone, why do it half-assed.
I am NON bending..you are right again. I have smoked you in EVERY dispute we have ever had...because I don't argue unless I think I am right before doing so.

Even those who you call your "friends" here are too afraid to tell you what an ass you are, because you don't discriminate.


Tell you what. Post a topic and ask the question. If more people hate me rather than like me, I will leave and NEVER return...No, I am not patting myself on the back, but I do think I bring some Goddamned emotion and substance to this fucking place, unlike you who hit and run, then bitch and whine, then resort to playing the "poor me" card...sad really


You're sad, Deano.


Actually, you are right yet again. Considering what I am dealing with right now in my life, yes, absolutely I am sad...No, actually, I am downright depressed.

You can't understand the concept of catching more flies with honey then vinegar or being civil with people or even trying to understand them.



Did that game in the WhiteHouse. This is MelodicRock.com, and the rules simply don't apply here.

You can't talk without swearing or name calling.



Yes I can. And I know I should tone it down, but in order to reach the retarded people like yourself, sometimes you have to throw a good expletive in there to convey emotion...Oh, but I forgot, you can read the emotion in a typed word.

You have to insult anyone who disagrees or doesn't see things your way. You talk nice until someone doesn't conform to what you want then you "unload" on them.



I unload alright, but not just because they disagree with me. Because they throw out an argument, without validation or reason, and retreat..(Look in Mirror, err, double wide mirror)

It's no wonder you sit on a message board and type behind a screen. I'm sure people in the real world quit dealing with your behavior long ago.



No wonder you sit at a desk all day playing Styx records..What an absolutely invigorating lifestyle..and then "threaten us" by threatening to not play any Generations in bum fuck South Dakota.

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So, in summation, this thread had some serious questions in it. However, since your arrival, the thread has gone to shit. You contributed nothing at all, no basis for a constructed discussion, and yet again, you were made an ass of. Have a good night...Pig

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:05 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:So, in summation, this thread had some serious questions in it. However, since your arrival, the thread has gone to shit. You contributed nothing at all, no basis for a constructed discussion, and yet again, you were made an ass of. Have a good night...Pig


Thank you, Deano...you rock! You have validated EVERY point I've made about you. For once, you've proven ME right..without even trying! lol!

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Admittedly, I should have followed my own suggestion in my first post and just not answered you in the first place, which I shall follow in the future. People like you are a dime a dozen, a sad, lonely aimless meaning of a life, with nothing to do but harp on other people to compensate for their own pathetic existance. But...that's what makes the world go 'round, I guess. So call me every name in the book if it makes you feel more manly, Deano. Spew your vulgarities til you're blue in the face(it's sooooo sexy to the ladiesImage). It doesn't bother me...in fact, it makes me laugh that someone can be so obvious of an idiot. Thanks for the comic relief!!

And remember...what comes around goes around. Image


PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:09 pm
by Rockindeano
LOL...


You still can't see the fact that I kicked your fat ass up and down the message board.

WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!?

I asked you a question.

YET here we are, 2 pages later, with you trying to hit and run..I will OWN you , Angie.

Please keep your word and Never respond to me again.

You are embarrassing yourself.

NIG kicked your fat ass on the Kiss board. 13 kicked your ass, and now I am totally kicking your fat ass.

Go away....


PS---All you had to do was answer a question, which you still have NOT done.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:50 pm
by heardonthestreet
Anyway! I wonder? How many people here actually listen to the radio. I asked once before and many replied that they hardly ever tuned in. What beef does anyone have if they just listen to their c.d.s and never radio?

I can find any type of music I desire on the radio. Some stations play old and new mixed. I find c.d.s too predictable and like being suprised when a great Journey song is played and most stations are pretty good at rotation. A band should have a label if they want to get radio play and the music should be what most people will want to hear, not something a bands fans think is great because of some misguided loyalty. imo, good music will always get radio play and whoever stated that Rod Stewart new music isn't being aired is wrong. That man's music, new and old is played more than most. Every tenth song played is usually his.

God, Deano! Am I even on topic? It's late and I should be in bed. Good night Andrew. I suppose you're just getting out of bed. Have a nice day then!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:55 pm
by Rockindeano
heardonthestreet wrote:
God, Deano! Am I even on topic? It's late and I should be in bed. Good night Andrew. I suppose you're just getting out of bed. Have a nice day then!


Why ask me? Why does everyone here think I am the leader of this board?

Maybe subliminly you want me to spank you HOTTSIE! :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:12 pm
by heardonthestreet
Spank me? Not if you like the way you're put together.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:48 pm
by Rockindeano
Thanks for the kind words..Never ask me for help again