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Second SAFEST prediction in the history of music

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:44 am
by Free
Journey will never have a hit song again.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:58 am
by Red13JoePa
Probly right. Any bands of this ilk you know of exempt from this curse? And don't give us Bon Jovi, U2, Aerosmith.

They may get one again if Perry's allowed back in, though. But whatever hit comes out of that possible collaboration will be without my help and money.

PS, I'll qualify that. I would get the album if it happened, but it would be to support Neal, JC and the band not because I'd be happy to have Perry back and More Trial By More Fire in my collection. And I'd never spin it as much as I do Generations.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:10 am
by yak
Red13JoePa wrote:Probly right. Any bands of this ilk you know of exempt from this curse? And don't give us Bon Jovi, U2, Aerosmith.

They may get one again if Perry's allowed back in, though. But whatever hit comes out of that possible collaboration will be without my help and money.

PS, I'll qualify that. I would get the album if it happened, but it would be to support Neal, JC and the band not because I'd be happy to have Perry back and More Trial By More Fire in my collection. And I'd never spin it as much as I do Generations.


Wow red, my thoughts exactly...with one exception...I wouldn't buy it if Perry were on it...and you know it would be a one time deal anyway...IF that.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:08 am
by Abitaman
I would get the cd if Perry rejoined. I don't know if I would buy it or trade for a copy. Journey is better off withou Perry. That said I would buy a Perry solo cd.-ERIC

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:18 am
by Rockindeano
Abitaman wrote:I would get the cd if Perry rejoined. I don't know if I would buy it or trade for a copy. Journey is better off withou Perry. That said I would buy a Perry solo cd.-ERIC


Just curious..Why do you say that? Are you saying they wouldn't sound better with Perry? Because if that's what you're saying, you need to put down the crackpipe. Maybe that's what's causing your spelling atrocities:wink:

If you are saying with Perry's shitty work record, then I would understand.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:57 am
by Abitaman
Most of it is Perry's work record, and tour record. Perry even by his voice today is better than most out there. He just needs practice to get it back in shape. I wish he would hurry up and put out a solo cd.

But with Journey, it would mean shorter shows, less touring, and one or two cds ever 10 years.

Even with the problems Augeri is having, I would rather see him front Journey on cd and on stage.

I have several Perry fronted Journey boots and solo boots, and he was sounding bad. The Long Beach show I JUST GOT, he needed help. BUT, it was still good to hear him in this shape, and would go to hear him nowadays, same I would with Augeri, more so with Augeri, because he is out there "trying" and playing for the FANS. And this what one fan wants 8) -ERIC

Thanks for the cd :)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:10 am
by Angiekay
Red13JoePa wrote:Probly right. Any bands of this ilk you know of exempt from this curse? And don't give us Bon Jovi, U2, Aerosmith.



Actually, Bad Company did very well a couple years ago with the song "Joe Fabulous" from the Merchants of Cool cd. I don't have numbers as to how high it got, but it was a huge radio hit for a while.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:15 am
by jrnyman28
I always say I would listen before deciding. I am sure I would buy the CD and support my favorite band. But I definately would feel that a return to Perry is nothing but a money grab...and probably a farewell to Journey. I cannot see the band continuing 'long term' with Perry back. Plus, I do not see Journey recording the type of music I want to listen to with Perry at the helm. I imagine it would be done very well, and I am sure I will enjoy it. But I don't think it would be my preference. I would also have to see how they handled Steve and his "exit" from Journey. If not done the right way, I would really lose respect for the guys...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:09 pm
by heardonthestreet
It's a band, assholes, and that is what bands do. :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:53 pm
by Rockindeano
heardonthestreet wrote:It's a band, assholes, and that is what bands do. :wink:


If I ever ever meet you, I am going to fart right in your face.

I fucking hate you.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:17 pm
by Angiekay
Rock'ndeano wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:It's a band, assholes, and that is what bands do. :wink:


If I ever ever meet you, I am going to fart right in your face.



ROTFLMFAO....that's the funniest f**king thing I've read all day!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:13 pm
by usedtobadnews61
Red13JoePa wrote: And I'd never spin it as much as I do Generations.



Beyond the first three songs Generations is practically unlistenable...no hooks, weak choruses....Arrival had more "good" songs on it.



Jim

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:18 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
usedtobadnews61 wrote:Beyond the first three songs Generations is practically unlistenable...no hooks, weak choruses....Arrival had more "good" songs on it.


There is a seeming lack of A-material past the first 3 tracks, but to call it unlistenable is a real stretch. The track listing just isn't very good. The second half of the cd almost seems like a bunch of B-sides stuck together, however there is still some premium stuff in there if u look for it.
"Out of Harm's Way" is good stuff, "Beyond the Clouds" is good, "Knowing that You Love Me" is also a stand out.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:59 pm
by Red13JoePa
Angiekay wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:It's a band, assholes, and that is what bands do. :wink:


If I ever ever meet you, I am going to fart right in your face.



ROTFLMFAO....that's the funniest f**king thing I've read all day!! :lol: :lol: :lol:



Vintage Rock, is what it is... :lol:

"assholes?" A mite harsh coming from a charter member of a camp who gnashes teeth and wails to Andrew about being saluted with derogatory names, eh? Fire w/ fire, I guess. Speaking of which, let's find out if the age old adage about the flammabilty of flatulance holds, in this very case. :P

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:13 am
by usedtobadnews61
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
usedtobadnews61 wrote:Beyond the first three songs Generations is practically unlistenable...no hooks, weak choruses....Arrival had more "good" songs on it.


There is a seeming lack of A-material past the first 3 tracks, but to call it unlistenable is a real stretch. The track listing just isn't very good. The second half of the cd almost seems like a bunch of B-sides stuck together, however there is still some premium stuff in there if u look for it.
"Out of Harm's Way" is good stuff, "Beyond the Clouds" is good, "Knowing that You Love Me" is also a stand out.



To each their own TNC, but I gave Generations a couple months on my IPOD and I ended up dumping all but the first 3 songs...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:41 am
by DreamAfterDream
I think that Generations could have benefitted from better sequencing. But hey, it's not my album.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:36 am
by heardonthestreet
Generations would have been better with just one vocalist who knew how to sing, and then it would have been at least half as good as Arrival, which was half as good as Red 13, which bombed. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:14 am
by The_Noble_Cause
usedtobadnews61 wrote:To each their own TNC, but I gave Generations a couple months on my IPOD and I ended up dumping all but the first 3 songs...


Do you own any album besides Arrival and the Greatest Hits?
Not every Journey song has to be an immediate toe-tapper top 40 friendly pop tune. With that said, I think "Knowing that You Love Me", "Out of Harms Way" and "Beyond the Clouds" are plenty catchy.
I swear, if "Departure" was released tommorow, fans like yourself would complain that the whole album is disposable with the exception for "Any Way You Want It".

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:15 am
by The_Noble_Cause
heardonthestreet wrote:Generations would have been better with just one vocalist who knew how to sing, and then it would have been at least half as good as Arrival, which was half as good as Red 13, which bombed. :lol:


That's not a prediction, you malevolent old crone.
Now scram!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:17 am
by DreamAfterDream
heardonthestreet wrote:
Generations would have been better with just one vocalist who knew how to sing, and then it would have been at least half as good as Arrival, which was half as good as Red 13, which bombed.


I've been trying to stay out of the whole feud thing, but damn it that's just annoying as hell!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:26 am
by Rockindeano
DreamAfterDream wrote:
I've been trying to stay out of the whole feud thing, but damn it that's just annoying as hell!




Hey turdonthesheets, go do something useful..Go work on your old man's hose or something.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:13 pm
by NealIsGod
heardonthestreet wrote:Generations would have been better with just one vocalist who knew how to sing, and then it would have been at least half as good as Arrival, which was half as good as Red 13, which bombed. :lol:


She's like a female Troll. Nothing going on in her or Perry's life, so she tries to cause trouble where there is some action. Pathetic.

Maybe we should return the favor on the Perry board?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:10 am
by sexxymofo
heardonthestreet wrote:Generations would have been better with just one vocalist who knew how to sing, and then it would have been at least half as good as Arrival, which was half as good as Red 13, which bombed. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:17 am
by Moon Beam
Almost had me spitting out my coffee
on some of these cracks folks.
:lol:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:23 am
by Red13JoePa
UglyMofo, why are you using an old TheNobleCause picture in your avatar space :?:

And regarding that signature: Did TheGloriousVOICE :roll: really speak in all caps (like yell when saying "NO ONE!!!!," etc) when he recited those words? That would sound weird.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:57 am
by heardonthestreet
Not so weird, Joe. My take on that statement was that after Neal got his hands on Journey, he might run the band into the ground but NO ONE could take away what CLASSIC JOURNEY accomplished. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:05 am
by NealIsGod
heardonthestreet wrote:Not so weird, Joe. My take on that statement was that after Neal got his hands on Journey, he might run the band into the ground but NO ONE could take away what CLASSIC JOURNEY accomplished. :wink:


"after he got his hands on Journey"? Do you realize that NEAL IS A FOUNDING MEMBER? He has "had his hands on Journey" from the beginning, and all through the glory years. Perry is the one who "ran Journey into the ground" when he tried to control everything during ROR. I know that you know this and you are just trying to take the piss, but it is just fun exposing your fake ignorance.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:18 am
by heardonthestreet
He didn't have his hands on Journey during the glory years, Perry did. Neal had the band, before and after, and enough said there!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:20 am
by NealIsGod
heardonthestreet wrote:He didn't have his hands on Journey during the glory years, Perry did. Neal had the band, before and after, and enough said there!


Thanks for proving my point. You are truly "LOONY". :P

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:55 am
by DreamAfterDream
I'll take my popcorn buttered, thanks. :lol: