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I put up "Edge Of The Blade" from Manchester June

its on yousend it

link;

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 570794B146

Its a great version..and AUGERI IS DEFO SINGING LIVE!!! it shows in the sound dynamics ...this supposedly when he was having throat probs... its a great version, Schon is burning, and Augeri throwing in some ball-breakingly high ad libs at the end Its a top quality audience recording "A"

sorry... I buried it in a thread, where it wasnt gonna be picked up

neilmaclookalike wrote:Guys and Gals

I put up "Edge Of The Blade" from Manchester June

its on yousend it

link;

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 570794B146

Its a great version..and AUGERI IS DEFO SINGING LIVE!!! it shows in the sound dynamics ...this supposedly when he was having throat probs... its a great version, Schon is burning, and Augeri throwing in some ball-breakingly high ad libs at the end

sorry... I buried it in a thread, where it wasnt gonna be picked up

Thanks. I like it a lot, and Augeri sounds great here. Now some dick wad say how its 2001 DVD.

how could he sound so great in EOTB, and be croaking in Faithfully?

Barb wrote:how could he sound so great in EOTB, and be croaking in Faithfully?

He probably lipped it. However, it is possible to lose it. I know I've had it happen where maybe I swallowed wrong and it made me gag. Then your voice is kinda rough for awhile afterwards. That's a possibility but I'm not saying that's what happened.

rap_still_sucks wrote:Thanks. I like it a lot, and Augeri sounds great here. Now some dick wad say how its 2001 DVD.

Well, they didn't do EOTB on the 2001 DVD, so that couldn't be it. Perhaps Deano has a conspiracy theory on this one as well.

Barb wrote:how could he sound so great in EOTB, and be croaking in Faithfully?

Great question Barb.... and I havent got the answer..... to be honest, Ive listened to Faithfully a couple times, and Im at a loss....... I mean, anyone who knows anything about music and live sound, realises that this song is being sung totally live.... and sung well. I will post up "Faithfully" next... I dont hear it being sung badly, its just that Augeri suddenly decides to let the audience sing the song, after the minute mark, it actually sounds like maybe his monitors "blow" or vocals thru the pa, as his voice goes real quiet

Posting in a few mins

Neil

neilmaclookalike wrote:

Barb wrote:how could he sound so great in EOTB, and be croaking in Faithfully?

Great question Barb.... and I havent got the answer..... to be honest, Ive listened to Faithfully a couple times, and Im at a loss....... I mean, anyone who knows anything about music and live sound, realises that this song is being sung totally live.... and sung well. I will post up "Faithfully" next... I dont hear it being sung badly, its just that Augeri suddenly decides to let the audience sing the song, after the minute mark, it actually sounds like maybe his monitors "blow" or vocals thru the pa, as his voice goes real quiet

Posting in a few mins

Neil

Don't bother. Barb believes he was lipping, too.

conversationpc wrote:

neilmaclookalike wrote:

Barb wrote:how could he sound so great in EOTB, and be croaking in Faithfully?

Great question Barb.... and I havent got the answer..... to be honest, Ive listened to Faithfully a couple times, and Im at a loss....... I mean, anyone who knows anything about music and live sound, realises that this song is being sung totally live.... and sung well. I will post up "Faithfully" next... I dont hear it being sung badly, its just that Augeri suddenly decides to let the audience sing the song, after the minute mark, it actually sounds like maybe his monitors "blow" or vocals thru the pa, as his voice goes real quiet

Posting in a few mins

Neil

Don't bother. Barb believes he was lipping, too.

if you believed Augeri was lipping in "Edge Of The Blade", well your auditory system is well fucked up buddy. and please dont speak for someone else, they can type for themselves, Im sure

erm...maybe I got this wrong.... your not in the "Augeri lipped" camp?

It's oky... Dave knows me and knows what I think on this. I do believe he was lipping. My first impression when I heard this show was that it was live, but I now think they've just got recordings of other shows where his singing was okay.

Believe me, it's the last thing I ever wanted to believe, but I do.

neilmaclookalike wrote:if you believed Augeri was lipping in "Edge Of The Blade", well your auditory system is well fucked up buddy. and please dont speak for someone else, they can type for themselves, Im sure

erm...maybe I got this wrong.... your not in the "Augeri lipped" camp?

No, I didn't say he was lipping "Edge of the Blade". I haven't listened to it that closely and don't really care to know if he did or didn't.

As for Barb, we are friends and know each other from "The Cooler" and have discussed the lipping issue. She believes he did it. I do as well but not to the extent that Deano says it occurred. For instance, he says the Indianapolis show last year was lipped. It wasn't. I was there and Steve sounded flat-out bad in the first set. He sounded bad still to start off the 2nd set and only sounded mediocre to decent by the end of the night. No lipping there.

does the cooler still exist?

yulog wrote:does the cooler still exist?

Of course, I'm talking about The Cooler that formed after BT shut down "The Water Cooler" section over there. It's on aimoo.com... http://www.aimoo.com/forum/login/login.cfm?id=443096

Yep...It's pretty tame compared to here but I enjoy it. I also moderate the "DISCUSSION/DEBATE" forum over there. There's not as much traffic as here, though, so it can be a bit slow at times.

He is singing a lot differently......and I do hear some croaks. BUT, it sounds pretty good.

Thanks for posting that. I love that song (that whole "B" side rocks!)

Well, though he does sound strained and like he is trying too hard, he sounds pretty good!

I prefer his natural, lower voice where he sounds more relaxed and natural.

neil,, this is just amazing,, SA brought new life to this tune,,, wow,,

liam!!! dl this! ................u drunk fool!!

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:Thanks. I like it a lot, and Augeri sounds great here. Now some dick wad say how its 2001 DVD.

Well, they didn't do EOTB on the 2001 DVD, so that couldn't be it. Perhaps Deano has a conspiracy theory on this one as well.

Pretty simple, dude..EOTB, CR, and others were recorded 2001.....

Again, a conspiracy theory?

Probably not.

Rockn'deano wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:Thanks. I like it a lot, and Augeri sounds great here. Now some dick wad say how its 2001 DVD.

Well, they didn't do EOTB on the 2001 DVD, so that couldn't be it. Perhaps Deano has a conspiracy theory on this one as well.

Pretty simple, dude..EOTB, CR, and others were recorded 2001.....

Again, a conspiracy theory?

Probably not.

deano , for a while "escape to tape" went to an insurance agency with some crazy cat pictured with a cigar, fred somebody? what was that ? did u sell the blog?

neilmaclookalike wrote:

Barb wrote:how could he sound so great in EOTB, and be croaking in Faithfully?

Great question Barb.... and I havent got the answer..... to be honest, Ive listened to Faithfully a couple times, and Im at a loss....... I mean, anyone who knows anything about music and live sound, realises that this song is being sung totally live.... and sung well. I will post up "Faithfully" next... I dont hear it being sung badly, its just that Augeri suddenly decides to let the audience sing the song, after the minute mark, it actually sounds like maybe his monitors "blow" or vocals thru the pa, as his voice goes real quiet

Posting in a few mins

Neil

I do belive tapes were used i was told for between 50-70% depending on his voice,this sounds live and great (pro tools studio? early live soundboard recording?) it is puzzling.'Anytime' he traded vocals with John and 'Escape' he did the same with Dean? this must have been live, He evan told me that Escape is the hardest song for him to sing live!
There has to be something to the tape story,maybe not as much as we thought though?
I heard a boot from this show of 'Out of Harms Way' from Manchester and this sounds like it was the vocal taken fron Generations,its way to clean for to be live i think.
The mystery goes on and on

Is it possible for a singer to fuck up on the same note on 3 separate occasions? The reason I am asking this is because I have two boots from last year where he sings Ask the Lonely, and he goes just a bit too high on the same part of the song as he did on the 2001 DVD.

Sounds all LIVE to me, but then again my opinion means jack shit around here...

JrnyFan4Life wrote:Is it possible for a singer to fuck up on the same note on 3 separate occasions? The reason I am asking this is because I have two boots from last year where he sings Ask the Lonely, and he goes just a bit too high on the same part of the song as he did on the 2001 DVD.

If you're talking about the vocal "posession" it's like this. It's not a fucking fuck up. Augeri has forever (at LEAST since '99) been turning that word into a 3-sylable thing with the last part being falsetto. It's on the dvd and most of the other times you you hear it live. Not a crack, flub, or otherwise foulup. That's why it can sound the same in most shows.

Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri has forever (at LEAST since '99) been turning that word into a 3-sylable thing with the last part being falsetto.

Name some recordings then.
I defy you.
On the 2001 dvd what you hear is his voice breaking, a sour note.
No singer can duplicate that once, let alone for an entire tour.

JrnyFan4Life wrote:Is it possible for a singer to fuck up on the same note on 3 separate occasions? The reason I am asking this is because I have two boots from last year where he sings Ask the Lonely, and he goes just a bit too high on the same part of the song as he did on the 2001 DVD.

It's scientifically impossible.
Ask any professional singer on this very forum.
Merge any bootleg of "Ask the Lonely" from pre-2005 and play it alongside "Ask the Lonely" from 2005 onwards.
I guarantee you the vocal delivery will NOT synch up even close.
Now, play any two 2005 ASL boots together (as Jeremy already did, among others) and u will find the vocals lineup identically.
I don't care how good of a singer you are, nobody sings a song identically nite after nite.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:Augeri has forever (at LEAST since '99) been turning that word into a 3-sylable thing with the last part being falsetto.

Name some recordings then.
I defy you.
On the 2001 dvd what you hear is his voice breaking, a sour note.
No singer can duplicate that once, let alone for an entire tour.

It is a gd falsetto...fairly common vocal device unless I'm wrong. On the dvd you can see him throw his head back and conjure it up. No signer can duplicate a puny sing falsetto note all the time? Wrong.

Defy that.

Red13JoePa wrote:It is a gd falsetto...fairly common vocal device unless I'm wrong.

You are wrong.
It's a sour note.
You see his mouth cringe even after he does it.
When I watch the dvd with friends we commonly laugh at this part.

On the dvd you can see him throw his head back and conjure it up. No signer can duplicate a puny sing falsetto note all the time? Wrong.

No singer can duplicate a high note 100% identically nite after nite. Or any note, really.
It simply DOESN'T happen. Unless he's a machine.....or a recording?
Someone on a different forum even overlapped recordings of the king of tenors, Steve Perry, singing same songs on different nites and guess what?
They diverged instantaneously.

You, "The Vacationer" and his sycophantic and creepy little cheerleaders say it's an identical note. I and others do not. If you say it's a sour note, why keep playing that all the time? Why not one where he does not hit a sour note?

Red13JoePa wrote:You, "The Vacationer"

Thank you! I take that as a compliment.
My itinerant nature serves to prove that I have other priorities in my life besides lounging here for months on end.

If you say it's a sour note, why keep playing that all the time? Why not one where he does not hit a sour note?

Any bootleg pre-2005 features Augeri singing "Ask The Lonely" in different ways nightly - like any singer.
I'll leave it at that.

Rockn'deano wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:Thanks. I like it a lot, and Augeri sounds great here. Now some dick wad say how its 2001 DVD.

Well, they didn't do EOTB on the 2001 DVD, so that couldn't be it. Perhaps Deano has a conspiracy theory on this one as well.

Pretty simple, dude..EOTB, CR, and others were recorded 2001.....

Again, a conspiracy theory?

Probably not.

Welcome Back Deano, hope you are fine.

steveforever wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

rap_still_sucks wrote:Thanks. I like it a lot, and Augeri sounds great here. Now some dick wad say how its 2001 DVD.

Well, they didn't do EOTB on the 2001 DVD, so that couldn't be it. Perhaps Deano has a conspiracy theory on this one as well.

Pretty simple, dude..EOTB, CR, and others were recorded 2001.....

Again, a conspiracy theory?

Probably not.

Welcome Back Deano, hope you are fine.

erm...did I miss something, is he posting up under another name?