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Agree or disagree: People who keep harping on getting the "classic" line-ups of their favorite bands back together are inherently unhappy with their own present day lives. In their minds, continuously discussing such a reunion keeps them from facing the fact that life is always changing and nothing lasts forever.

Discuss.

Good question NIG. There's definitely some truth to that....and there's no doubt that nostalgia is much more attractive when you're dissastisfied or unhappy.

But equally there's no doubt that Journey were a better band between 1981-1986 than they have been since. Anyone with a modicum of musical taste would surely agree with that.

I guess - for me anyway - I feel much more tolerant of modern Journey when I'm happy. And when life is crap the very idea of Augeri...and Arrival...and all the rest of it...badly gets on my nerves.


As for the reunion thing...well, it could be argued that Jouney are little more than a nostalgia act now...no matter who is singing.

NIG.

I know why you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know wht you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

Now there is something we can agree on. If I had known the ROR show I saw in 86 was the last time I'd ever see Perry & Schon on the same stage together, I would have savored every second.

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know wht you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

Yes, I saw the ROR tour. Wish I had seen any other.

NealIsGod wrote:Agree or disagree: People who keep harping on getting the "classic" line-ups of their favorite bands back together are inherently unhappy with their own present day lives. In their minds, continuously discussing such a reunion keeps them from facing the fact that life is always changing and nothing lasts forever.

Discuss.

I kinda disagree.
There is nothing wrong on missing (or wanting back) the best days of your life.It's human nature to long for something you loved and lost,and that's definitely not a sign of present unhappyness.
Don't you ever miss being a kid again and taste those yummy caramels that are nowhere to find today?
But that doesn't mean that your present life is not good - adulthood comes with great changes and satisfactions.

I think the same goes with music.
Personally,I miss the 80's music wise,because I truly believe that there will never ever be such a creative,inspiring and brilliant era in music again.
I wish I could see the original line-ups of my fave bands up on stage,from Journey to Halen to INXS,you name it...If that will never happen,it's ok,I'm not going to be bitter and cry over something that it can't be done.
And I'm certainly not unhappy with what happens today in music because I have the choice to choose what to love and what not.
Another sign of being an adult.

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know wht you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........

Dean, don't think you are the type of person this thread is referring to.

I think a big part of it certainly is nostalgia. I think another part of wanting an old band to be reunited is just the natural feeling of wanting the "original". Before all you Journey "historians" jump in here...Yes, I am fully cognizant that Journey existed, before Perry was brought into the band. That said, they really existed, in name only. Because of that, the "original" for most of us would be the Perry era Journey, with Jonathan Cain! I agree with Dean's comment that "Perry was that good". Watch any old clips you can find of Journey, and know that you were watching pure magic, that none of us will ever see again. And yes...the magic was more than JUST Perry's voice. It was the perfect marriage between Perry's soaring vocals, harmonizing with Neal's licks, and the once in a lifetime chemistry, that he and Cain shared, as songwriters! I know there will ALWAYS be people who think Perry gets too much credit. As I've said in the past, I can't think of any other band that was more identified by their soaring vocals, than Journey was. I think that's why for many, it simply won't ever be the same, and you'll always have people pining for Perry to re-join the band. That said, we all know that this will NEVER, EVER, EVER happen again!


John from Boston

NealIsGod wrote:Dean, don't think you are the type of person this thread is referring to.

Not really.

I have been able to convince myself that Perry isnt returning, and of course, I love JSS...I mean, I get to shake his hand when I see him at a show....maybe

RockinDeano wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know wht you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........

Stop being so childish. You sound like fucking Kim over at the other site. She is incapable of speaking for herself, but you Joepa, you have the ability.

Just speak your mind for shits sake!

Ballz.
You don't want to hear me out, you phone picker-upper/slammer-downer.

Red13JoePa wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know wht you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........

Stop being so childish. You sound like fucking Kim over at the other site. She is incapable of speaking for herself, but you Joepa, you have the ability.

Just speak your mind for shits sake!

Ballz.
You don't want to hear me out, you phone picker-upper/slammer-downer.

Sorry Slap, try me again. I was multi tasking.

Ouch.
When you multi-task things get......

NealIsGod wrote:Agree or disagree: People who keep harping on getting the "classic" line-ups of their favorite bands back together are inherently unhappy with their own present day lives. In their minds, continuously discussing such a reunion keeps them from facing the fact that life is always changing and nothing lasts forever.

Discuss.

Wow dude, I mean, that's like so deep, ya know?

Seriously though, that's an interesting question.

Maybe they're longing for a time in their lives when they were happier and they connect that original band with that time.

Maybe they just honestly don't like the sound of the new incarnation of the band.

Maybe they're the kind of person who doesn't adjust well to any kind of change in something that's become part of their lives.

Maybe they've got an unhealthy fantasy crush on a certain member to that original band.

Maybe they're just bitchy and want to argue about it.

Maybe all of the above and they're really screwed up.

I don't mean people who simply prefer their favorite lineup over the current day's. I am talking about people who doggedly repeat the same mantra over and over, no matter how fruitless, while totally writing off anything new.

NealIsGod wrote:I don't mean people who simply prefer their favorite lineup over the current day's. I am talking about people who doggedly repeat the same mantra over and over, no matter how fruitless, while totally writing off anything new.

I think they'd either be the ones that connect the music to a happier time in their lives, or have an unhealthy crush on a particular member, or both, which means they should probably seek councelling.

I don't know that wishing the classic lineup of a band would reunite means that you're not happy with your life today. I think for many of us, that music takes us back to a simpler time in our lives. Many people go to Journey concerts now to have a night of reliving their youth, when their lives weren't as complicated. Having the classic/original lineup of a band back together and seeing them on stage gives people an escape from reality. Personally, I look back now at the shows I attended, and I have wonderful memories. My experiences with Journey since 1998 have given me wonderful new memories.

ohsherrie wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:I don't mean people who simply prefer their favorite lineup over the current day's. I am talking about people who doggedly repeat the same mantra over and over, no matter how fruitless, while totally writing off anything new.

I think they'd either be the ones that connect the music to a happier time in their lives, or have an unhealthy crush on a particular member, or both, which means they should probably seek councelling.

Best answer yet.

do you remember a star trek where spock was going back to his home planet to hook up with a hot vulkcan chick,, the entire show was about him anticipating it,, so when he gets back kirk asks him how it go... spock stated that the want and desire was much better than actually recieving the real thing.. he built it up to be bigger than it was... i think we are all better off dreaming about the classic lineup...

I never had the chance to see Perry live so that would be something I would love to see and hear.....There is no other like him!!!!

RockinDeano wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:Dean, don't think you are the type of person this thread is referring to.

Not really.

I have been able to convince myself that Perry isnt returning, and of course, I love JSS...I mean, I get to shake his hand when I see him at a show....maybe

your back to ," hello mr. soto, may have have an autograph?"....

I DOUBT IT

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:do you remember a star trek where spock was going back to his home planet to hook up with a hot vulkcan chick,, the entire show was about him anticipating it,, so when he gets back kirk asks him how it go... spock stated that the want and desire was much better than actually recieving the real thing.. he built it up to be bigger than it was... i think we are all better off dreaming about the classic lineup...

Yep, I remember that one Lar and I know just what you mean. As much as I would love to see Perry in concert, with or without Journey(I never had the chance), I realize it might not measure up in my mind to what I've seen on video and bootlegs. I'd just like to see the man in person, period.

I also can't wait to see Jeff though, so I guess that's where I shed my 'loonism.

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know why you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

those days were great!!! and I would pay to see it again.. can you imagine what Journey could charge for a show if Perry was around.. ticket prices would easily be 150.00-300.00 a show..

Rick

bufordt9 wrote:I never had the chance to see Perry live so that would be something I would love to see and hear.....There is no other like him!!!!

Well I saw Perry live back during the Escape tour and I gotta tell you, there wasn't a singer I heard back then who could touch him. I saw lots of shows back then and I clearly remember being in the 13th row center listening in disbelief at his vocal prowess. He had total control of his voice and sounded every bit as good as the Houston concert.

That being said, I can understand how those who saw him or other fantastic bands want to re-live that experience just once more. People do go overboard though and just get obsessed about it. These people, I think, tend to be a bit nutty as if nothing else in life matters and their hopeless life will be saved if only XYZ would get back together again.

I'll gladly take JSS today vs no more Perry since that is the reality. Also keep in mind that many of those great bands had long careers and people were attached to them most of their life while growing up. Bands nowadays have no longevity and just fade away after a few years so the allure and nostalgia of those old bands is great.

Barb wrote:

RockinDeano wrote:NIG.

I know wht you ask this.

You have never seen Journey with Steve Perry have you? Had you, you would want to see it too. Hell, even Soto would want to see that. NIGGY, yes, Perry was that good.

I know for me, I would want to see that more than anything.

Now there is something we can agree on. If I had known the ROR show I saw in 86 was the last time I'd ever see Perry & Schon on the same stage together, I would have savored every second.

me, too. or gone to more than one. seems normal now! 3 shows in Florida--only 3???

I am so looking forward to seeing what Journey can come up with now!!!!! I am hoping beyond hope, most likely, that we will hear a little somethin somethin in Florida. that's the main reason I am going. but if not, no worries.

I enjoy everything from the past but don't really want to do it again for no other reason than that I just like new stuff. I love my kids but I am not wanting them to be little again. I loved college but I'm done with it. do something else now. I guess I'm just a rolling stone. (have you seen the vid with Neal, Deen, Todd Jensen and Paul Rodgers doing that Muddy Waters tune? wow) On that note, however, JSS band reunited and Soul SirkUS at Loffler's was like a dream-I still can't believe it. But I haven't spent time pining away for the reincarnation, either. well, maybe just a little.

Hi Trekkies! Live long and prosper.

Journey on, move forward, don't look back, no regrets. (AGirlIsADHDToday. focus, Daniel-san)

GirlLikeYou wrote:
me, too. or gone to more than one. seems normal now! 3 shows in Florida--only 3???

I ams o looking forward to seeing what Journey can come up with now!!!!!

You are going to Florida?

Wait til you hear what they are going to play. You might feel like you are in '78-'82 window again

RockinDeano wrote:

GirlLikeYou wrote:
me, too. or gone to more than one. seems normal now! 3 shows in Florida--only 3???

I ams o looking forward to seeing what Journey can come up with now!!!!!

You are going to Florida?

Wait til you hear what they are going to play. You might feel like you are in '78-'82 window again

SWEET!!!!! I love that Journey era. (AND this era-everyone relax-it's ok to love them ALL!!!)

I WILL hug you again so don't try to get away!!!! (poor Journey-they are llike-oh good grief-here she is again. Brace yourself, Florida!)

Frontiers Steve Perry, before he killed his voice? Yes.

ROR to TBF Steve Perry? No.

I would be really scared to be a VH fan right now. I can't see ANY way DLR sounds good, but I don't have proof of that either... so who knows.

NealIsGod wrote:Agree or disagree: People who keep harping on getting the "classic" line-ups of their favorite bands back together are inherently unhappy with their own present day lives. In their minds, continuously discussing such a reunion keeps them from facing the fact that life is always changing and nothing lasts forever.

Discuss.

Yes. That's why I find it sad that JSS is talking about "reuniting" with their Infinity/Evolution music.

JOURNEY was successful for one thing and one thing only: they sought after new frontiers.

If there is a formula for JOURNEY's success THAT is it.

Since 1998 they've been content to be a shadow of themselves. They have an opportunity to seek after new frontiers again - to rise above their shadow - instead their vision continues to be clouded by it.

NealIsGod wrote:Agree or disagree: People who keep harping on getting the "classic" line-ups of their favorite bands back together are inherently unhappy with their own present day lives. In their minds, continuously discussing such a reunion keeps them from facing the fact that life is always changing and nothing lasts forever.

Discuss.

Yes. That's why I find it sad that JSS is talking about "reuniting" with their Infinity/Evolution music.

JOURNEY was successful for one thing and one thing only: they sought after new frontiers.

If there is a formula for JOURNEY's success THAT is it.

Since 1998 they've been content to be a shadow of themselves. They have an opportunity to seek after new frontiers again - to rise above their shadow - instead their vision continues to be clouded by it.