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45 Million in the US

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:33 am
by Rockindeano
Well two years ago, Journey was at a paltry 40 million in album sales in the US, then 41 last year, and now they are up to 45.

Seriously, I wonder if the Generations hand outs counted toward this number? I recall hearing that CD's with a ticket are counted as a sale....

http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp

By the way,

KISS checks in at a staggering 22 million :roll: :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:35 am
by Rick
They're getting outsold by some pretty embarrassing bands/singers.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:48 am
by AR
RockinDeano wrote:Well two years ago, Journey was at a paltry 40 million in album sales in the US, then 41 last year, and now they are up to 45.

Seriously, I wonder if the Generations hand outs counted toward this number? I recall hearing that CD's with a ticket are counted as a sale....

http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp

By the way,

KISS checks in at a staggering 22 million :roll: :wink:


VERY impressive considering Kiss doesn't usually have hit singles to have driven album sales.

I won't get into how the labels used to under report sales of certain bands to avoid royalty payments in the pre-soundscan era. That list has always been questioned.

International sales are also NOT included in that list.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:51 am
by Deb
AR wrote:International sales are also NOT included in that list.


True, that list shows Bon Jovi with only 33 million, and as we all know "100 million Bon Jovi fans can't be wrong." :lol:

Wonder what Journey's world sales are?

Re: 45 Million in the US

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:59 am
by *Laura
strungout wrote:
Wonder what Journey's world sales are?

I think it's somewhere around 75 million.Japan sales were huge.

Re: 45 Million in the US

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:09 am
by lights1961
RockinDeano wrote:Well two years ago, Journey was at a paltry 40 million in album sales in the US, then 41 last year, and now they are up to 45.

Seriously, I wonder if the Generations hand outs counted toward this number? I recall hearing that CD's with a ticket are counted as a sale....

http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp

By the way,

KISS checks in at a staggering 22 million :roll: :wink:


**Over 40 million units is not too shabby!! Hate to be the cheerleader.....just saying---- I also thought worldwide Journey is aprox 75-77 million. Its a good balance of fans trhought out the world I think...

Rick

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:18 am
by Big J
Funny that Santana's right under them.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:24 am
by Deb
Shania wrote:
strungout wrote:
Wonder what Journey's world sales are?

I think it's somewhere around 75 million.Japan sales were huge.


Thanks L. :)

Re: 45 Million in the US

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:31 am
by belar
AR wrote:VERY impressive considering Kiss doesn't usually have hit singles to have driven album sales.


Unfortunately, Journey has only had 1 single which could be considered a hit in the past 20 years or so, since ROR :cry: .

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:12 am
by RedWingFan
NealIsGod wrote:
And Mrs. NIGGY is half Mexican... :wink:

Congratulations, all my sisters are half mexican. Okay so am I :D Although I swore off the mexican part when the U.S soccer team played a game down in Mexico City and the crowd was chanting OSAMA!! :evil:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:23 am
by Rick
RedWingFan wrote:Although I swore off the mexican part when the U.S soccer team played a game down in Mexico City and the crowd was chanting OSAMA!! :evil:


You gotta be shitting me! Man they can't build that wall fast enough or high enough for my taste. Buncha ungrateful fuckers!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:26 am
by RedWingFan
Shoot 'em up wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Although I swore off the mexican part when the U.S soccer team played a game down in Mexico City and the crowd was chanting OSAMA!! :evil:


You gotta be shitting me! Man they can't build that wall fast enough or high enough for my taste. Buncha ungrateful fuckers!

Dude, I can't remeber if it was '02 or '03. I was furious, I'm passionate about sports, but that's unacceptable to me.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:48 am
by jrnyman28
You say last year Journey was at 41 million and now they are at 45 million? Given the sorry state of CD sales these days that is fucking impressive!!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:55 am
by Rockindeano
Dave, I am thinking they might have been close to closing off another million on a couple records..I know they were close to topping 4 mill on Infinity, Evolution and close to topping 3 mill on ROR...Maybe all the back sales were thrown in the counting hopper and they hit another couple platinum milestones.....I wouldn't be surprised if GH had some huge impact either.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:14 am
by Red13JoePa
No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:15 am
by Abitaman
They will get another big hit in sales when Perry does the 2010 re-re-remasters :D

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:21 am
by RedWingFan
Red13JoePa wrote:No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.

What's the difference between Journey's platinum vs. non-platinum records?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:22 am
by Rockindeano
Red13JoePa wrote:No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.


I think you just unintentionally gave huge kudos to Steve Perry; and it is all deserved as well.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:23 am
by Rockindeano
RedWingFan wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.

What's the difference between Journey's platinum vs. non-platinum records?


I know I know!

Steve Fucking Perry?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:24 am
by RedWingFan
RockinDeano wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.

What's the difference between Journey's platinum vs. non-platinum records?


I know I know!

Steve Fucking Perry?

We have a winner! (patting deano's dome, letting him look at my nude Shania Twain photo)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:58 am
by Red13JoePa
RockinDeano wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.


I think you just unintentionally gave huge kudos to Steve Perry; and it is all deserved as well.


No problem at all giving tossing Kudos Stevie ILoveThickGravy's way.
The guy was an immortal frontman and a hell of a singer. I will buy the next record if there is one, long's as it's not a motown or standards cover album. What I fucking DETEST are the "Journey fans" who begrudge the band for carrying on with Augeri and JSS (And just so we're clear I'm not talking about either of our good pals Matthew or Enigma. Where the hell IS JohnEnigma, anyway?).

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:38 pm
by Saint John
I posted this a few months ago:


Found a list of all-time WORLDWIDE album sales by artist. Here are the Top 20:

4129 The Beatles
2625 Led Zeppelin
2328 Hollywood Movie Soundtracks
2262 Elvis Presley
1759 Various (collections/label promo)
1508 Eagles
1453 Pink Floyd
1381 Billy Joel
1311 Elton John
1154 Barbra Streisand
1134 The Rolling Stones
1123 AC/DC
0956 Bruce Springsteen
0930 Kenny Rogers
0928 Journey
0897 Aerosmith
0876 Michael Jackson
0860 Simon & Garfunkel
0849 Van Halen
0839 Fleetwood Mac


This site has Journey at 92.8 million worldwide. What's even MORE perplexing is the breakdown. It's as follows:
Frontiers: 32.4 million
Escape: 19.8 million
Greatest Hits: 13.0 million
Infinity: 7.2 million
Evolution: 6.6 million
Departure: 6.3 miilion
Raised On Radio: 3.0 million
Trial By Fire: 500,000

I would have NEVER guessed that Frontiers is far and away their best selling album. However, the list appears to be very legit. Any thoughts?

PS Street talk was at 3.4 million

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:00 pm
by knox
Wow, and Departure is my favorite.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:02 pm
by Red13JoePa
That list has to be off, San Juan.
Stictly speaking US terms GH, naturally is the biggest seller (at least outside ESC4P3) and while we dispute if TBF SOLD or SHIPPED platinum, it WELL exceeded 500 K.
Wether is "sold" or "shipped" that record is credited with at LEAST 500K more sales than that chart gives it.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:50 pm
by Rick
saint John wrote:
I would have NEVER guessed that Frontiers is far and away their best selling album. However, the list appears to be very legit. Any thoughts?


Me either, I would have thought Escape or Greatest Hits would have sold the most.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:57 am
by belar
I'm surprised that Journey has outsold Michael Jackson worldwide.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:44 am
by Saint John
Red13JoePa wrote:That list has to be off, San Juan.
Stictly speaking US terms GH, naturally is the biggest seller (at least outside ESC4P3) and while we dispute if TBF SOLD or SHIPPED platinum, it WELL exceeded 500 K.
Wether is "sold" or "shipped" that record is credited with at LEAST 500K more sales than that chart gives it.



I too thought of that, 13. I'm wondering if it a) either wasn't updated or that b) it may have be hovering around 900,000 and and has not yet hit platinum status. My guess is that it hasn't been updated since the album did so poorly....relative to what it COULD have done. TBF and Frontiers really had me shaking my head when I saw the list. Frontiers was HUGE in Japan....that I know for sure.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:10 am
by jrnyman28
TBF shipped platinum in the US, but did finally reach 2 million recently according to RIAA.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:46 am
by Saint John
jrnyman28 wrote:TBF shipped platinum in the US, but did finally reach 2 million recently according to RIAA.



Cool...thanks for that information.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:01 am
by frfksakes
RockinDeano wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:No matter WHAT the era, to have every record from Infinity to TBF inclusive go platinum is absolutely incredible.

What's the difference between Journey's platinum vs. non-platinum records?


I know I know!

Steve Fucking Perry?


LOL!!

Amen