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...is that he is doing the CORRECT thing by embracing the legacy of Steve Perry and giving him his props whenever and wherever appropriate.

A personal note to JSS (if you ever happen to read this)...I really appreciate your humble attitude and attention to your fans. But, I have to be honest...I am too hooked on the "classic" Journey lineup with SP to really follow the band like I used to. Something doesn't yet work for me about the latest lineup...

I do think you are a hard-working, talented, and gracious professional and I wish you success.

BTW, your voice would be PERFECT for Van Halen. Something about the tonality of your voice would fit those songs...perhaps better than Journey. Were you ever approached by them?

No offense intended in any of the above comments.

Rock On!

i like the drunk monkey thread better..

Tomulator wrote:...is that he is doing the CORRECT thing by embracing the legacy of Steve Perry and giving him his props whenever and wherever appropriate.

A personal note to JSS (if you ever happen to read this)...I really appreciate your humble attitude and attention to your fans. But, I have to be honest...I am too hooked on the "classic" Journey lineup with SP to really follow the band like I used to. Something doesn't yet work for me about the latest lineup...

I do think you are a hard-working, talented, and gracious professional and I wish you success.

BTW, your voice would be PERFECT for Van Halen. Something about the tonality of your voice would fit those songs...perhaps better than Journey. Were you ever approached by them?

No offense intended in any of the above comments.

Rock On!

Good, honest post. Van Halen is doomed as long as Eddie has ANY control and that seems certain to continue. Personally, I can't stand Eddie and love the implosion. They've always just been a mediocre band anyway. Probably at their best with Sammy. Stability is a beautiful thing.

Tomulator wrote:...is that he is doing the CORRECT thing by embracing the legacy of Steve Perry and giving him his props whenever and wherever appropriate.

A personal note to JSS (if you ever happen to read this)...I really appreciate your humble attitude and attention to your fans. But, I have to be honest...I am too hooked on the "classic" Journey lineup with SP to really follow the band like I used to. Something doesn't yet work for me about the latest lineup...

I do think you are a hard-working, talented, and gracious professional and I wish you success.

BTW, your voice would be PERFECT for Van Halen. Something about the tonality of your voice would fit those songs...perhaps better than Journey. Were you ever approached by them?

No offense intended in any of the above comments.

Rock On!

JSS voice WILL be perfect fit on the new music... and its a perfect fit for the classics... the shows from last year with the first notes to Stone In Love won me over...... You have your opinion and thats okay. Classic line here ***is I dont follow the band like I used to**but he has to throw in 1 cent worth of opinon... QUESTION... if you have not seen the band live---hold your views until you see a show...and dont go by you tube it doesnt do him justice.. I know JSS can defend himself... I am just a little pissed off at these types of coments--from know it alls..


Rick

Tomulator wrote:...is that he is doing the CORRECT thing by embracing the legacy of Steve Perry and giving him his props whenever and wherever appropriate.

A personal note to JSS (if you ever happen to read this)...I really appreciate your humble attitude and attention to your fans. But, I have to be honest...I am too hooked on the "classic" Journey lineup with SP to really follow the band like I used to. Something doesn't yet work for me about the latest lineup...

I do think you are a hard-working, talented, and gracious professional and I wish you success.

BTW, your voice would be PERFECT for Van Halen. Something about the tonality of your voice would fit those songs...perhaps better than Journey. Were you ever approached by them?

No offense intended in any of the above comments.

Rock On!

Ahh, a traditionalist. I don't have any problem with that. The only thing I have a problem with is the thought of JSS not singing for Journey. He's a great fit in Journey in my opinion. He does the catalog justice dude. You need to see him or hear him with Journey this year. He's hit his stride and the band is sounding better than they have since Frontiers.
I have no beef with what you said, you are entitled to your opinion, but JSS going to Van Halen would not only be bad for Journey, but for JSS as well. He will have his brightest future with Journey. I feel very confident about that.

Wrong.

It could be a good post, but I smell piss.

Look, if you don't like the way he sounds, fine, let him know it. Beat his head in. I am all for hearing dissenting opinion. However, you are beating Soto up becuse he is carrying on with a band that your "classic saviour" no longer wants any part of. Jesus Christ, this gets fucking old.

I bashed the shit out of Steve Augeri because he deserved it. I didn't bash him because compared to Steve fucking Perry he sucked? No, I bashed him but good, because he committed a rocknroll crime. I was sickened by it and took out the trash. Soto isn't doing anything scandulous like Lipping? He is doing a job that was offered to him. This has NOTHIMG to do with Soto "sounding good in Journey." This has everything to do with you are pissed because "clasic Journey has left the station on a one way trip." Get over it, for fucks sake. I bet you are a dude who weeps for weeks, over his girlfriend leaving him. Dude, do you know, it has been 11 years since the portugese god has hung up the mic? Get over it.

lights1961 wrote:JSS voice WILL be perfect fit on the new music... and its a perfect fit for the classics... the shows from last year with the first notes to Stone In Love won me over...... You have your opinion and thats okay. Classic line here ***is I dont follow the band like I used to**but he has to throw in 1 cent worth of opinon... QUESTION... if you have not seen the band live---hold your views until you see a show...and dont go by you tube it doesnt do him justice.. I know JSS can defend himself... I am just a little pissed off at these types of coments--from know it alls..


Rick

Come on, that's a bit harsh.
This dude/dudette's post was actually a pretty positive one.
We all know, even Jeff, that not every Journey fan is gonna
be into this new era. This post was actually pretty cool when
you take into account the hundreds of others from the jilted
Augeri fans that we've had to endure

But Tomulator, listen to Lights.
Check a show in person before you give final judgement.
You may be pleasantly surprised!
Just ask Matty! If he can be won over by Jeff and excited again
then just about anyone can

Van Halen? Mediocre? Wow. That's just plain ignorance. Even if you don't like their music...holy crap. DD is the greatest showman of all time, and was very underrated as a vocalist. Eddie is simply unparalleled as an axeman, and was a helluva songwriter as well. Alexander? An a**hole, like his brother, but he's right up there with Portnoy and Palmer. Mikey? A talented bassist, a great performer, and a tremendous backup singer. Sammy? SImply one of the greatest rock singers, ever. I'm offended.

Dude I think your in the wrong forum if you want to blow the Van Halens'. There is a separate forum for VH. Eddie is a washed up egomaniac. He is a mediocore axeman at best. And to compare Alex to Carl Palmer, Not even in the same league! I will agree with the Sammy part.

7 Wishes wrote:Van Halen? Mediocre? Wow. That's just plain ignorance. Even if you don't like their music...holy crap. DD is the greatest showman of all time,

You seriously need to check yourself into rehab.

Better than
Perry
Springsteen
Jaeger
Mercury

Gotcha.

7 Wishes wrote: Alexander? An a**hole, like his brother, but he's right up there with Portnoy and Palmer.

Okay, that's it..I can't read anymore.

I would take a retarded, blind, dwarf T-rex as my drummer instead of this hack. I saw VH in 2004. I was a huge fan. I walked out of that garbage show.

Umm...okay, chf34jmac. Interesting moniker. Whatever. Are you a musician? You see, I am, and I've been playing one instrument or another for 32 of my 37 years. What Eddie did was unparalleled, induplicatable, and historic. Mind you, I do think he's a world class a**hole. There are a lot of "washed up" musicians out there who have contributed far less, and they're still around.

Deano, "showman" does not mean "singer", "vocalist", or "performer". I saw VH with DD six times in the 80's, and nothing will ever touch Dave as far as his mastery of the audience, showmanship, and exhuberance.

7 Wishes wrote:Umm...okay. Whatever. Are you a musician? You see, I am, and I've been playing one instrument or another for 32 of my 37 years. What Eddie did was unparalleled, induplicatable, and historic. Mind you, I do think he's a world class a**hole. There are a lot of "washed up" musicians out there who have contributed far less, and they're still around.

I wasn't bashing Eddie. He is a pioneer. Will always be one of the best ever. I was bashing that hack Alex.

7 Wishes wrote:Van Halen? Mediocre? Wow. That's just plain ignorance. Even if you don't like their music...holy crap. DD is the greatest showman of all time, and was very underrated as a vocalist. Eddie is simply unparalleled as an axeman, and was a helluva songwriter as well. Alexander? An a**hole, like his brother, but he's right up there with Portnoy and Palmer. Mikey? A talented bassist, a great performer, and a tremendous backup singer. Sammy? SImply one of the greatest rock singers, ever. I'm offended.

Dude, what the fuck are you smokin',
aside from Eddie's dick???

Face it, Eddie's about as washed up and useless as Mike Tyson.
Alex has NEVER been in the same league with the likes of Portnoy,
Palmer, Peart... Hell, he isn't even in the same league as Big Arena Rock
drummers like Tommy Lee or Nicko McBrain.

I'll give you the DD comment; Ultimate Rock&Roll Frontman.
Sammy and Mike... Both TOTAL class acts.

Deano, I'm kind of slow. My response was to chf34jmac. I guess chf33jmac was already taken.

Incidentally, I've done so much Edward-bashing in the past ten years, that he's going to probably have Wolfie track me down and crush my skull with his Barney bass.

7 Wishes wrote:Are you a musician? You see, I am, and I've been playing one instrument or another for 32 of my 37 years. What Eddie did was unparalleled, induplicatable, and historic.

You are right...
what Eddie 'did' was unparalleled. But that's all he's
got now. He hasn't done anything fresh or "innovative" in
at least 20 years. You look at a guy like Schonny...
Fucker gets better and better and better every year, any style, any melody.

BTW, who gives a fuck if you're a musician?
You don't have to be a musician to see/hear true musical genius.

Dude if you want to engage me bring something better the chf33jmac ok dickhead. I am a retired fire chief and that screen name includes my station number. Just so you know. I risked my life day after day for assholes like you that I don't even know and this is how I get treated. I am used to it, people always treat firefighters like shit and just expect us to die to save your fucking dog.

Now back to the topic at hand. Eddie, while a pioneer 25 years ago, hasn't done shit but drink away a large portion of his liver in recent years. At this point I would bet speed wise, he's no where near 25 years ago. Alex, always a shithead, wouldn't even get hired in most local bars if his last name wasn't VH. Michael, decent guy, great backup singer. DD Good singer, excellent showman. Sammy, better singer, better showman in my opinion.

anything else?

Carlitto, I was referring to the fact that it's damned hard to play his music.

I would never compare VH to Neal. Neal played for Santana AND turned down Clapton - at age 15! It really pisses me off that he gets included in that whole "corporate rock" dismissal that 40-year-old virgin REM fans still spew. I mean, even more than SP, Neal deserves massive credit. I was just listening to "Savage Blue" by Bad English - is that not one of the great intros of all time? I still get chills when I hear that.

You stupid fuck! I was referring to your moniker! What the hell is wrong with you? You need serious therapy! I guess you've been down that road before. Well, my uncle was a fireman, too. What he did every day was amazing.

Dude, I'm sorry, but you're just way out of line with that response. This is a MUSIC BOARD, not psychotherapy.com, or a blog for retired firefighters.

By the way, I could kick your ass up one side and down the other.

Don't mess with people you don't know, dude. That's just completely uncalled for. Besides, you were the one who made it personal.

7 Wishes wrote:Carlitto, I was referring to the fact that it's damned hard to play his music.

I would never compare VH to Neal. Neal played for Santana AND turned down Clapton - at age 15! It really pisses me off that he gets included in that whole "corporate rock" dismissal that 40-year-old virgin REM fans still spew. I mean, even more than SP, Neal deserves massive credit. I was just listening to "Savage Blue" by Bad English - is that not one of the great intros of all time? I still get chills when I hear that.

I never thought you were comparing Neal to Eddie.
I was just using Neal as an example of someone that is still
moving forward with thier abilities instead of being stuck in limbo.

And now, 10, 20, 30 years later Eddie's licks are getting
easier to play by guitarists that are getting younger and younger
because of all the info/tabs out there.
Honestly, the hardest aspect of Ed's playing is truly mimicing
is classic, instantly recognizable 'tone' or Brown Sound as i've always heard it refered to.

7 Wishes wrote:You stupid fuck! I was referring to your moniker! What the hell is wrong with you? You need serious therapy! I guess you've been down that road before. Well, my uncle was a fireman, too. What he did every day was amazing.

Dude, I'm sorry, but you're just way out of line with that response. This is a MUSIC BOARD, not psychotherapy.com, or a blog for retired firefighters.

By the way, I could kick your ass up one side and down the other.

Don't mess with people you don't know, dude. That's just completely uncalled for. Besides, you were the one who made it personal.

Dude, ease up....cut the personal attacks. NOW. I won't put up with that.

Dude if you want to engage me bring something better the chf33jmac ok dickhead. I am a retired fire chief and that screen name includes my station number. Just so you know. I risked my life day after day for assholes like you that I don't even know and this is how I get treated. I am used to it, people always treat firefighters like shit and just expect us to die to save your fucking dog.

Dude I think your in the wrong forum if you want to blow the Van Halens'.

Andrew, that's what drew my ire. That was in response to me calling him "chf33jmac" instead of "chf34jmac". I think he's the one who got this train rolling. That being said, I respectfully withdraw from this forum and offer my apologies.

I like this personally. A good scrap. Always a fan of a Poster skirmish.

7 Wishes wrote:Andrew, that's what drew my ire. That was in response to me calling him "chf33jmac" instead of "chf34jmac". I think he's the one who got this train rolling. That being said, I respectfully withdraw from this forum and offer my apologies.

Being asked to cease a personal attack on someone does not men you have to retire from the forum or quit posting your opinions, which up until this point, have been appreciated.

That's taking it several steps further than what is needed.

AR wrote:

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Alex has NEVER been in the same league with the likes of Portnoy,
Palmer, Peart... Hell, he isn't even in the same league as Big Arena Rock
drummers like Tommy Lee or Nicko McBrain.

The first part of your statement is correct: AVH is nowhere near Peart, Palmer, Portnoy, Paice, Kirkpatrick, Zonder, etc., in terms of competence and skill. When Alex was in his prime, he and Nicko were probably about even, but that's open to debate. But Tommy Lee? Tommy can keep time, but that's about it. He's a four-on-the-floor guy, and has never wowed anybody with his drumming (that's why he resorted to the "flying drumkit" and other tricks). Heck, even Dokken's Mick Brown is a much more interesting drummer than Tommy Lee! Check out Dokken's new live CD From Conception–Live 1981 for proof.

chf34jmac wrote:Dude if you want to engage me bring something better the chf33jmac ok dickhead. I am a retired fire chief and that screen name includes my station number. Just so you know. I risked my life day after day for assholes like you that I don't even know and this is how I get treated. I am used to it, people always treat firefighters like shit and just expect us to die to save your fucking dog.


anything else?

Kudos to you my friend! My step father is a firefighter and your right, we all take you guys for granted. You have my highest respect!

Carry on with the Eddie Van Halen bashing!

I'm still laughing at the part about "Alexander" being in the same league with Mike Portnoy. Not even fucking close. Anyone, NO, EVERYONE that has ever been a part of Van Halen combined, can't compare to Portnoy. Least of all a cokehead like Alex.

Too much crack being smoked in this world.