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Yes I am biased however as a musician I think that I can take in everything I have heard and be objective. After watching the Escape Dvd on my NEW Harmon Kardon/Bose setup in 5.1 I have to say that Mother Father from the Escape DVD is the the most fucking soulfull, fucking ungodly powerfull, fucking pitch perfect live vocal performance out of everything I have ever heard before. You can say a lot of things about Journey when they are compared to thier contemporaries however above all else as a vocal band with the empashis on harmonies between the singing members there isnt one better. The Eagles may equal them on the harmonies however Perry's ungodly fucking true crystaline tenor adds the perfect filet migon to an already satisfying musical meal.

I think I am becoming a loon. Funny thing is that I have known about Journey since Escape was big and even though I though they were cool tunes its just recently that Journey's music has revealed that it is timeless. In my mind that puts them in the same league as the Beatles, Pink Floyd etc because 20+ years after the release of their best material is it revealed that it has only grown better with age. Cant say that about any of their peers from the same time period can you ?

Despite what happens with the whole singer thing remember that these guys have written some of the most endearing, timeless tunes in rock n roll. Hate Fro and Geeky Anal fairy piano dude all you want for the recent bullshit but the fact cannot be denied that they were directly responsible for this acheivment.

I am stoned at the moment and should stop myself at this point because I could go on for hours.

Ha ha is that why there's 2 of these? I love this line:

"Perry's ungodly fucking true crystaline tenor adds the perfect filet migon to an already satisfying musical meal"

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Yes I am biased however as a musician I think that I can take in everything I have heard and be objective. After watching the Escape Dvd on my NEW Harmon Kardon/Bose setup in 5.1 I have to say that Mother Father from the Escape DVD is the the most fucking soulfull, fucking ungodly powerfull, fucking pitch perfect live vocal performance out of everything I have ever heard before. You can say a lot of things about Journey when they are compared to thier contemporaries however above all else as a vocal band with the empashis on harmonies between the singing members there isnt one better. The Eagles may equal them on the harmonies however Perry's ungodly fucking true crystaline tenor adds the perfect filet migon to an already satisfying musical meal.

I think I am becoming a loon. Funny thing is that I have known about Journey since Escape was big and even though I though they were cool tunes its just recently that Journey's music has revealed that it is timeless. In my mind that puts them in the same league as the Beatles, Pink Floyd etc because 20+ years after the release of their best material is it revealed that it has only grown better with age. Cant say that about any of their peers from the same time period can you ?

Despite what happens with the whole singer thing remember that these guys have written some of the most endearing, timeless tunes in rock n roll. Hate Fro and Geeky Anal fairy piano dude all you want for the recent bullshit but the fact cannot be denied that they were directly responsible for this acheivment.

I am stoned at the moment and should stop myself at this point because I could go on for hours.

Hm....
tough to argue even though he's not my favorite singer he has ripped off some beautes as far as 1-off vocal performances.

I'll take the studio MF over the Houston DVD one (though it does sound great in the surround remaster mix) but for a 1-time-only I gotta have Liberty. That is a monster voc.

Don't think ya can put them with the Beatles.... thats a stretch....

The Beatles re-defined rock and roll and roll.... and influenced the way people think about social issues around the world.... Journeys music has been successful and band members do have a record of philanthropy .... but nowhere NEAR the scale of the John, Paul, George and Ringo....

Red13JoePa wrote:I'll take the studio MF over the Houston DVD one (though it does sound great in the surround remaster mix) but for a 1-time-only I gotta have Liberty. That is a monster voc.

Hell yeah!

Do you have the re-mastered version yet? It sounds even better.

Steve Perry

Aaron wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBqKk_Bv5U

this is raw,, no fun stuff on the vocals,, folks have no idea what it takes to pull this off.. hearing yourself through a monitor .. and keeping pitch,, its confusing to play an instrument , hear yourself , know its you, and still do everything right.. but vocals????? a live show can be terrifying.. this performance is top form.. ..... this is not singing in the shower.. real pro's..

Lar,

I'm with you. The feed is clearly without any reverb or echoing effects on the vocals. It shows just how good Perry was live. He was fuckin awesome.

L8r,

Aaron

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Aaron wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBqKk_Bv5U

this is raw,, no fun stuff on the vocals,, folks have no idea what it takes to pull this off.. hearing yourself through a monitor .. and keeping pitch,, its confusing to play an instrument , hear yourself , know its you, and still do everything right.. but vocals????? a live show can be terrifying.. this performance is top form.. ..... this is not singing in the shower.. real pro's..

Aaron wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBqKk_Bv5U

This performance makes me think the band had just a cocktail or two before the show. They were loose and having fun. Sounds great.

Aaron wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftBqKk_Bv5U

The rawness of this sounds simplistic but it really showcases the musicianship of the band and the extraordinary vocal ability of Perry. The real deal.

I'm moving my post from your 1st thread over to this one!


Re: Best rock vocal performance of all time.
Liquid_Drummer wrote:
Yes I am biased however as a musician I think that I can take in everything I have heard and be objective. After watching the Escape Dvd on my NEW Harmon Kardon/Bose setup in 5.1 I have to say that Mother Father from the Escape DVD is the the most fucking soulfull, fucking ungodly powerfull, fucking pitch perfect live vocal performance out of everything I have ever heard before. You can say a lot of things about Journey when they are compared to thier contemporaries however above all else as a vocal band with the empashis on harmonies between the singing members there isnt one better. The Eagles may equal them on the harmonies however Perry's ungodly fucking true crystaline tenor adds the perfect filet migon to an already satisfying musical meal.

I think I am becoming a loon. Funny thing is that I have known about Journey since Escape was big and even though I though they were cool tunes its just recently that Journey's music has revealed that it is timeless. In my mind that puts them in the same league as the Beatles, Pink Floyd etc because 20+ years after the release of their best material is it revealed that it has only grown better with age. Cant say that about any of their peers from the same time period can you ?

Despite what happens with the whole singer thing remember that these guys have written some of the most endearing, timeless tunes in rock n roll. Hate Fro and Geeky Anal fairy piano dude all you want for the recent bullshit but the fact cannot be denied that they were directly responsible for this acheivment.

I am stoned at the moment and should stop myself at this point because I could go on for hours.


I like your last line! LOL!!! I agree with you on how great they are. It amazes me that they haven't been inducted in to the Rock and roll hall of fame. I've read that it's all political, but how the hell can they justify some of the bands they've inducted, yet neglect Journey who's put out so many millions of albums??? Pisses me off!!!

They ARE timeless as well! I'll go weeks or months sometimes without listening to Journey (Don't shoot me down!!!), but everytime I bust out a track, it's like it's fresh and new. I have to admit though, that while I was playing with Frontiers, some of the songs started sounding repetitive! I had to listen to them a lot while I was rehearsing for the gigs, and I honestly thought I might get burned out on Journey at one point! I have to add though, that every time I played the stuff live, that feeling went away and it was just an amazing experience!!! Those songs are a keyboardist's dream to play!

Sorry, I started rambling there...just had a flashback! And NO, I'm not stoned! Won't be able to do that 'till I retire at 43 years old. Got a few more years to go!


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I cannot argue how great Mother Father from the Houston DVD is, or that version of Party's Over from Japan for that matter.
My vote however, goes to "Patiently" live in Houston, 1980 on the Departure tour. This is a fairly well recognized bootleg, (sometimes called "Texas Departure")and though the entire concert is stellar, "Patiently" is just insane vocally. The acrobatics that Perry demonstrates at the end of the tune are mind blowing.

Johnny Mohawk wrote:My vote however, goes to "Patiently" live in Houston, 1980 on the Departure tour. This is a fairly well recognized bootleg, (sometimes called "Texas Departure")and though the entire concert is stellar, "Patiently" is just insane vocally. The acrobatics that Perry demonstrates at the end of the tune are mind blowing.

I agree,that's a breath taking vocal performance.Is the one followed by Opened The Door,right?That one's equally stunning.
I remember playing the Patiently track to a friend who's an opera singer and she was amazed about how smoothly he goes from one note to another without any noticeable effort.

Liquid_Drummer wrote:I think I am becoming a loon.

It's understandable.

*Laura wrote
I agree,that's a breath taking vocal performance.Is the one followed by Opened The Door,right?

That's the one.
I believe that the very short clip of "Patiently" that they show on Behind the Music is from this same show (they only show a couple seconds). I guess that means that somewhere there is video footage of this whole show floating around. I've only seen footage of 3 or 4 tunes, but hopefully the whole concert will surface on DVD one day.

There are many vocalists that ahve such fantastic voices....so I couldn't say..although I will say Klaus Meine of Scorpions has one heck of a voice for a rather dimunitive fella, got a CD they did with the Berlin philharmonca, and he has such a powerful voice..just brilliant to listen to.
Having said that there are so many others...ooooh i hate having to make choices like this....

slucero wrote:Don't think ya can put them with the Beatles.... thats a stretch....

The Beatles re-defined rock and roll and roll.... and influenced the way people think about social issues around the world.... Journeys music has been successful and band members do have a record of philanthropy .... but nowhere NEAR the scale of the John, Paul, George and Ringo....

I agree with everything you have said BUT this performance of “Mother, Father” and a few others from the Houston '81 show are better than anything a lot of bands have put out including The Beatles, performance-wise anyway. This is truly one of the best rock vocal performances of all time as LD stated but he went overboard when he tried to put them in the same league overall as The Beatles or Pink Floyd. I forgive him though his mind was slightly altered.

slucero wrote:Don't think ya can put them with the Beatles.... thats a stretch....

The Beatles re-defined rock and roll and roll.... and influenced the way people think about social issues around the world....

Bah.

The Beatles were the 3rd best British Invasion band.

Journey's better.

Red13JoePa wrote:

slucero wrote:Don't think ya can put them with the Beatles.... thats a stretch....

The Beatles re-defined rock and roll and roll.... and influenced the way people think about social issues around the world....

Bah.

The Beatles were the 3rd best British Invasion band.

Journey's better.

So who are you placing above them Red? I'm guessing Stones followed by Def Lep...am I close? Beatles have to be no1 and although your heart says Journey are better, no way dude. Incidently I've never really been a fan of the fab four but give them their dues, they had the world in the palm of their hands.....has Journey ever reached those heights?

Memo: The Beatles were recipients(sp) of good timing, that's it. And girls went Cuckoo for cocopuffs over them. Thats it.

I don't know why people continue to fawn over these four mop-tops. Ringo played a Walmart drumkit. They weren't that great as far as instruments. Their music was simple. Lennon was canonized for being wacky. Paul was the genius in that band. They did get better as time went on. And they broke up when they were just getting good.

Socratic Methodist wrote:Memo: The Beatles were recipients(sp) of good timing, that's it. And girls went Cuckoo for cocopuffs over them. Thats it.

I don't know why people continue to fawn over these four mop-tops. Ringo played a Walmart drumkit. They weren't that great as far as instruments. Their music was simple. Lennon was canonized for being wacky. Paul was the genius in that band. They did get better as time went on. And they broke up when they were just getting good.

....and didn't he make a walmart drumkit sound good. Four honest hard working lads did good, don't trash them

Stones
The Who
The Bealtes


And if they could be considered I'd put Zep ahead of the who and below the stones.

Red13JoePa wrote:Stones
The Who
The Bealtes


And if they could be considered I'd put Zep ahead of the who and below the stones.

Oh fuck I nearly put the Who second, damn! Got to admit though Lep took the states didn't they?

Socratic Methodist wrote:Memo: The Beatles were recipients(sp) of good timing, that's it. And girls went Cuckoo for cocopuffs over them. Thats it.

I don't know why people continue to fawn over these four mop-tops. Ringo played a Walmart drumkit. They weren't that great as far as instruments. Their music was simple. Lennon was canonized for being wacky. Paul was the genius in that band. They did get better as time went on. And they broke up when they were just getting good.

Couldn't agree more...fuck the Beatles and their Bo-Rics haircuts. Lennon wandered around in a comatose-like drug induced stupor for the better part of 15 years. Makes you wonder why anyone gave a shit when he got a few bullets in the chest. The guy was obviously afraid of reality and pretty much hated everything about the world. He was done a favor and shown the door. People should have been happy for him. Personally, I like it here. In fact, I'm having a hell of a time...no complaints and if at all possible, would love to stick around for another 30 or 40 years.

Say it, SinJin:

"Lennon was a solitary weirdo."

Saint John wrote:

Socratic Methodist wrote:Memo: The Beatles were recipients(sp) of good timing, that's it. And girls went Cuckoo for cocopuffs over them. Thats it.

I don't know why people continue to fawn over these four mop-tops. Ringo played a Walmart drumkit. They weren't that great as far as instruments. Their music was simple. Lennon was canonized for being wacky. Paul was the genius in that band. They did get better as time went on. And they broke up when they were just getting good.

Couldn't agree more...fuck the Beatles and their Bo-Rics haircuts. Lennon wandered around in a comatose-like drug induced stupor for the better part of 15 years. Makes you wonder why anyone gave a shit when he got a few bullets in the chest. The guy was obviously afraid of reality and pretty much hated everything about the world. He was done a favor and shown the door. People should have been happy for him. Personally, I like it here. In fact, I'm having a hell of a time...no complaints and if at all possible, would love to stick around for another 30 or 40 years.

John lennon was a very good song writer as is Sir Paul McCartney, as for drug induced I think many people of that era did, as well as some of our greatest Rock legends that we rave about, so I don't think one can really use that as a reason for not liking someone from that era, it was prevelent at the time...
He did not hate everything in the world he looked at the world through the eyes of a typical lancashire lad, who was bought up in a single parent family, and had to work hard to get where he got,and I think he did well for himself...if you don't mind me saying so. Liverpool can be a tough place to live ,

However, I have to say he was maybe not one of the best vocalists in the world, but creative he was And for a Yorkie Rose to admit faultlessness in a lancashire lad is damm good!!

Saint John wrote:

Socratic Methodist wrote:Memo: The Beatles were recipients(sp) of good timing, that's it. And girls went Cuckoo for cocopuffs over them. Thats it.

I don't know why people continue to fawn over these four mop-tops. Ringo played a Walmart drumkit. They weren't that great as far as instruments. Their music was simple. Lennon was canonized for being wacky. Paul was the genius in that band. They did get better as time went on. And they broke up when they were just getting good.

Couldn't agree more...fuck the Beatles and their Bo-Rics haircuts. Lennon wandered around in a comatose-like drug induced stupor for the better part of 15 years. Makes you wonder why anyone gave a shit when he got a few bullets in the chest. The guy was obviously afraid of reality and pretty much hated everything about the world. He was done a favor and shown the door. People should have been happy for him. Personally, I like it here. In fact, I'm having a hell of a time...no complaints and if at all possible, would love to stick around for another 30 or 40 years.

You sure fuckin' love it when people are shown the backdoor Saint, I'll give you that. Lennon's mind was fucked up by that ugly oriental bitch, you'd have to be stoned to sleep with that

styxman wrote:You sure fuckin' love it when people are shown the backdoor Saint, I'll give you that. Lennon's mind was fucked up by that ugly oriental bitch, you'd have to be stoned to sleep with that

Nah, he SHOULD have been stoned for having associated with that talentless twit.

conversationpc wrote:

styxman wrote:You sure fuckin' love it when people are shown the backdoor Saint, I'll give you that. Lennon's mind was fucked up by that ugly oriental bitch, you'd have to be stoned to sleep with that

Nah, he SHOULD have been stoned for having associated with that talentless twit.

That's no way to talk about Elvis dude

conversationpc wrote:

styxman wrote:You sure fuckin' love it when people are shown the backdoor Saint, I'll give you that. Lennon's mind was fucked up by that ugly oriental bitch, you'd have to be stoned to sleep with that

Nah, he SHOULD have been stoned for having associated with that talentless twit.

Yoko is a fugly Paris Hilton