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For those of you curious about Jason Kelty and Escape of old

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:23 am
by Liquid_Drummer
The old bootlegs are on the way. I was told that the quality is bad considering mid 90's vhs recorders but it should give some of you folks that were curious the idea.... I will post em as I manage to sort through and find the best of the best...

Re: For those of you curious about Jason Kelty and Escape of

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:59 am
by Saint John
Liquid_Drummer wrote:The old bootlegs are on the way. I was told that the quality is bad considering mid 90's vhs recorders but it should give some of you folks that were curious the idea.... I will post em as I manage to sort through and find the best of the best...



YES!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:04 am
by Jeremey
Would love to see them. The clip of Lovin You Is Easy was incredible, but I always figured it was a studio clip and would have loved to heard something performed live. Jason and most of the guys from Escape came to see us in Cleveland early this year. One of the guys kept in touch via email since then, but the vibe I got from most of them wasn't that they were all that close once things shook down... :?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:05 am
by Journey69
Nice,and why isn't Jason the lead singer again.. Religious problems? Would love to hear him tribute Journey if he won't be in it.. :)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:15 am
by Aaron
I seen him in the 95/96 time frame and he was dead nuts on sounding very much like a 78-80 Steve Perry. The guy was definitely good.

Jeremey wrote:Would love to see them. The clip of Lovin You Is Easy was incredible, but I always figured it was a studio clip and would have loved to heard something performed live. Jason and most of the guys from Escape came to see us in Cleveland early this year. One of the guys kept in touch via email since then, but the vibe I got from most of them wasn't that they were all that close once things shook down... :?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:16 pm
by RedWingFan
Cool. These are going up on youtube or what? Hurry, can't wait! :D

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:55 pm
by Liquid_Drummer
Well I dont know how i will post them. Probably on a private ftp just for you guys and then you can youtube them or whatever. I have to rip the vid from the dvd's and hope that the person encodes them correctly so they are no blotchy. I also have a guy that ran sound for my Pink FLoyd tribute that has some soundboards but he is having trouble locating them.... I was warned that the quality is bad but I will do what I can to clean up the audio at least.

This guy was "dead nuts" on for infinity era perry to the point that it was freaky. Thing was that it never appeared to take much effort for him to do it. It was a sight to behold for sure and he should have been the guy in 98 but again I guess as it has been said before. He was too close. Hugo ??? Hugo isnt 50% of what Jason could do. I think it kind of pigeon holed him though. I mean, try singing original music and it keeps sounding like Steve Perry singing. In a way a blessing can be a curse I suppose.. Since about 10 years has passed since he did it I wonder if his voice has changed. Wouldnt it be freaky if he sounded like Frontiers era perry now. I wish the guy would sing anything for real but it seems he is truly finished.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:23 am
by journeyrock
I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:46 am
by texafana
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:19 am
by LAKERSFAN
texafana wrote:
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3


I was looking forward to this alot after hearing the other clip a while back. This one disappoints me. It's good singing but not as Perryish as before. Is it just me?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:38 am
by journeyrock
texafana wrote:
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3
Thanks Texafana, that was excellent. Good stuff! I could support that version of Journey.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:50 am
by mistiejourney
texafana wrote:
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3


:shock: :shock: :shock:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:51 am
by frfksakes
Pretty damn close! (but, to those in the know: could he do that live? )

Jason Kelty - LovinYou
http://download.yousendit.com/CD2017EC177E6BFC

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:59 am
by ScarabGator
His voice just blows me away. Thats all I can say.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:05 am
by journeyrock
frfksakes wrote:Pretty damn close! (but, to those in the know: could he do that live? Which is when Perry was unbelievably at his best.)

Jason Kelty - LovinYou
http://download.yousendit.com/CD2017EC177E6BFC
Either way.....THAT was killer!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:47 am
by finalfight
texafana wrote:
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3


That clip comes up as 'Lovin' You is Easy' for me... :? Was it supposed to be something else as it's named Escape or is that because of Escape the band...? Whatever the case i've heard this one before and it sounds very, very nice indeed.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:48 am
by finalfight
LAKERSFAN wrote:
texafana wrote:
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3


I was looking forward to this alot after hearing the other clip a while back. This one disappoints me. It's good singing but not as Perryish as before. Is it just me?


Ummm, what other clip - did I miss something?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:06 am
by RedWingFan
finalfight wrote:
LAKERSFAN wrote:
texafana wrote:
journeyrock wrote:I can't wait to see them. I have been very curious about Jason Kelty ever since his name was mentioned as a good replacement. Thanks a mil, LD.


Here's a peek: Prepare to be fairly impressed...

http://www.madmikeproductions.com/media ... Escape.mp3


I was looking forward to this alot after hearing the other clip a while back. This one disappoints me. It's good singing but not as Perryish as before. Is it just me?


Ummm, what other clip - did I miss something?

This other clip!
http://members.core.com/~e5c4p3/LovinYou.mp3

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:15 am
by Saint John
I think the one clip is a snippet of the other. They are the same...one merely being longer than the other. Give us some live shit, LD. 8)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:19 am
by finalfight
Saint John wrote:I think the one clip is a snippet of the other. They are the same...one merely being longer than the other. Give us some live shit, LD. 8)


Ah, that makes sense then, thought I was hearing double!!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:34 am
by Liquid_Drummer
I checked the mail last night but no dice.. Soon as I get them I will hurry to get something up. As I said before I will put them on an ftp and let you guys either youtube them or whatever as my time is limited.... May just be audio at 1st. Depends on the quality of the material. I may just post the whole dvd as one big file. Dunno yet....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:14 am
by conversationpc
That clip of "Lovin' You Is Easy" is the best Journey cover I've heard yet, bar none. That guy was/is a great imitation.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:15 am
by Deb
Liquid_Drummer wrote:I checked the mail last night but no dice.. Soon as I get them I will hurry to get something up. As I said before I will put them on an ftp and let you guys either youtube them or whatever as my time is limited.... May just be audio at 1st. Depends on the quality of the material. I may just post the whole dvd as one big file. Dunno yet....


That would be great. Thanks LD. :)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:27 am
by Liquid_Drummer
OK got em today. Quality is bad as expected but enough to hear the guy and its like I remember. He fucking sounds too much like Perry at times and his range !!! Geesh !!! Now the bad news... They are on VHS !! I was expecting them on DVD which makes working with them easy. There are tracking issues with the video because they are 10 year old tapes and when I adjust the tracking to clear the video it screws the audio... COuld be my vcr as I have not touched it in a couple of years so now what do I do ? I am thinking about taking them to a video service to have them dumped on to dvd or I may just run the audio from my vcr in to my pc and record them with cakewalk. If I do this I may be able to greatly improve the audio so I will keep you guys updated. I think hearing it is more important than seeing it and that keeps files sizes down but we will see. I have gigs this weekend but I am off all next week so I will try to get a few clips up. Stay tuned.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:34 am
by Saint John
Liquid_Drummer wrote:OK got em today. Quality is bad as expected but enough to hear the guy and its like I remember. He fucking sounds too much like Perry at times and his range !!! Geesh !!! Now the bad news... They are on VHS !! I was expecting them on DVD which makes working with them easy. There are tracking issues with the video because they are 10 year old tapes and when I adjust the tracking to clear the video it screws the audio... COuld be my vcr as I have not touched it in a couple of years so now what do I do ? I am thinking about taking them to a video service to have them dumped on to dvd or I may just run the audio from my vcr in to my pc and record them with cakewalk. If I do this I may be able to greatly improve the audio so I will keep you guys updated. I think hearing it is more important than seeing it and that keeps files sizes down but we will see. I have gigs this weekend but I am off all next week so I will try to get a few clips up. Stay tuned.



Fuck hitting the tracking button...keep the vox as close to original as possible.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:41 am
by texafana
Def take it to a pro and have it dumped to DVD format. They'll probably have tools to get the best conversion possible. Also, if possible ask them to rip an audio version while they're at it. Some places can do this to. Then you can bring the audio into your DAW and master some compression, etc. Based on the demo I've heard, I'm looking forward to this. Thank you for taking the time to do this!! :)

Hell, you could charge a few bucks for the DVD!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:13 pm
by STORY_TELLER
Liquid_Drummer wrote:OK got em today. Quality is bad as expected but enough to hear the guy and its like I remember. He fucking sounds too much like Perry at times and his range !!! Geesh !!! Now the bad news... They are on VHS !! I was expecting them on DVD which makes working with them easy. There are tracking issues with the video because they are 10 year old tapes and when I adjust the tracking to clear the video it screws the audio... COuld be my vcr as I have not touched it in a couple of years so now what do I do ? I am thinking about taking them to a video service to have them dumped on to dvd or I may just run the audio from my vcr in to my pc and record them with cakewalk. If I do this I may be able to greatly improve the audio so I will keep you guys updated. I think hearing it is more important than seeing it and that keeps files sizes down but we will see. I have gigs this weekend but I am off all next week so I will try to get a few clips up. Stay tuned.


Here's your solution (assuming you have some kind of video editing software that is):

Don't know about a PC's but Macs have programs like iMovie or the more professional Final Cut Pro. Once you have the footage digitized, you can edit it, clean it up and convert it into any video or audio file from there. For our purposes, you just need to export it out of your video editing program as an MP3 or Quicktime or WMV file. Most programs have simple export options such as these.

Here's how you get it into your computer from a VHS tape:
Standard consumer grade digital camcorders can be used as VCR's to record off your TV set, or in this case from your VHS player using standard RCA cables (you know, the Red, White and Yellow cables that run from your VCR to your TV?).

From the VCR, connect the red, white and yellow 'out to TV' cables into your camcorder. You might need a hybrid cable to funnels all three colored cables into one input though (check your camcorder's connectivity for that).

Your camcorder, in playback mode, not camera mode, should be able to record a signal off a TV like a VCR (check the manual for how to do it). Play your VHS tape in your normal VCR and use your digital camcorder to record the VHS playback onto your mini-DV tape.

Once it's on a digital camcorder tape, you should be able to import the footage in your computer via firewire through any video editing software that recognizes a firewire device.

Let me know if it works. Dying to see Kelty do his thing.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:42 am
by Liquid_Drummer
I have another thread with some audio now. The video stuff will have to wait as I just dont have the time. I will be posting a few songs here and there as time allows....