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Open Letter to Mr. Azoff

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:49 pm
by Rockindeano
St John mistakingly wrote in another blown up thread, that "nobody in the business does it better" referring to Mr. Azoff. With that, I would like to write the old fucker an open letter, for all to see.

Dear Mr. Azoff,

I know you wield a wealth of power in the music industry, and do realize you are quite the thinker. Which ironically got me thinking. I find it absolutely appalling that you would concoct up the idea, to have the lead singer of a rock/pop band go on stage in front of 5-10 thousand people and mime/lip sync his way through a show. I also find it amazing, utterly amazing, that you were able to get all five band members to go along with the idea, as well as the sound technician, and the boys in the truck. It astounds me, how such a ballsy, yet risky move by a veteran manager could be undertaken. See, I know this was your idea. I also know that you thought if Madonna and Britney could pull off such a feat, why can't American rock act Journey? Well sir, you pulled it off....sort of. There were a couple of fans, a couple of loudmouths and some real good ears that exposed your gimmick. You got your hand caught in the cookie jar. However, not to worry, you would never take the fall. You are hidden behind a big desk and a rich automobile. It was a genius plan. If it worked which it almost did, you could defraud thousands and thousands of fans of their hard earned dollars, by putting on a lipped show. The signs outside the venues were supposed to say, "Tonight, Live--Journey." Haha, Hell, the fans won't know what is really happening. Hahaha. Well guess what old man? Some fans did find out and a few of them really got down to business and discovered the intricate details of this master plan gone awry. Still, your savvy business dealings and smooth glossing over the fact bullshit practices managed to make the singer out to be the scapegoat. This mechanism was in place when the plan was conceived. So let's recap. You knowingly planned out a lipped tour, and then built in an escape hatch, where by the "guilty" singer and no one else, would fall. Even though the bassist, drummer, keyboard player and yes, lead guitarist all knew, they were never in danger of suffering a fall. One fan, some say an obsessed fan, fel for it hook line and sinker. He was loud and boisterous and hung the lead singer in public; in front of thousands and potentially millions of fans via the world wide web. You must of loved that, eh? Here you had a fan, a passionate loving fan, doing your dirty work for you, and taking the heat off the crime. Brilliant.

Mr. Azoff, I know that fan in particular, and I wonder if he will let bygones be bygones and revert to a passive stance, or become fueled up again, and spread the evil story? . I would love to know what your comrades in the business think about your business practices and your mangled way of thinking. I would love to hear what Jon Landau (Bruce Springsteen) thinks of this? I wonder aloud if he would be disgusted or possibly, yet highly unlikely, if he would be somewhat understanding, given your singers ailing voice. I also would like to see what Bruce Allen thinks about all this bullshit? Can you see Mr. Allen asking his biggest client, Bryan Adams to lip sync ? I think his client would probably fire him on the spot if asked such a outlandish request. Now I do know it was your idea, but it also takes some shady people to go along with this. I am guessing the four other band members, the one's who were safe from any fallout, are not stand up guys. See, after countless hours of thinking about this crime, I have come to the conclusion that the other four members are just as bad as you Mr Azoff, as well as the sound engineer.

So my lone real question to you sir is this. What would you think, if that overzealous fan with "no life" were to pose this question to others in the industry? Would you deny the unequivocal truth? Deflect it as anonymous web chatter? Would you answer it truthfully? That is a possibility you know. You could come in here and answer with truth; truth with an explanation. Perhaps you were caught in a bad situation and needed an escape? Naw, that wouldn't fly because even when the story broke on a public music message board, you continued to do it, and entered the next tour and the next year doing the exact same thing. To think a few fans were on to you, and you and your people didn't even change the tracked cd! Huh? I mean come on? You had hounds hot on your ass and yet you still went with the same tracked cd? Not to mention, the copied CD was one that was sold as a DVD! Jesus Christ, I thought you were smart..wait, powerful does not necessarily equate to smart does it? You used the DVD to have your lead singer lip sync to. That sir is pretty fucking stupid. And what's even more stupid, is the fact you kept using it the next tour! You know, I have to wonder, will this story ever truly go away? Or will it somehow miraculously make it's way into some significant periodicals and newspapers? The evidence is overwhelming to say the least. I believe the fan who accused you of this crime is confident of his findings.

What's still on many minds is the choices left to the singer. He was stuck in a perilous situation. The fan who exposed this fraud was pretty tough on him, but now, may be softening a bit. What was the lead singers choice? Could he take a moral stand and leave mid tour, thus costing the band millions of lost revenue, of which you sir would be reaping as well. Was he strong armed into going along with the plan, knowing full well, he was the fall guy and would suffer a career ending night sometime soon? This is the question many want to know. The blame on this lead singer may very well be alleviated altogether, and rightfully placed on someone else's shoulders.

Have a nice night, Sir.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:58 pm
by donnaplease
Enquiring minds want to know...

Great post, all except that last line. That was a little uncalled for, I must say. :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:59 pm
by ProgRocker53
Preach it brother.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:01 pm
by Saint John
"Both are far and away the best at what they do."

By that I meant make tons and tons of money. Those clowns you mentioned pale in comparison to the bank Azoff will make with The Eagles, Van Halen, Leppard, Journey and on and on and on.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:05 pm
by nolippin
:roll: Oh, for the love of God...Azoff is laughing his ass off at you. "Will it ever go away?" Hell, no because you are a one trick pony in need of constant attention. STFU!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:07 pm
by Rockindeano
Saint John wrote:"Both are far and away the best at what they do."

By that I meant make tons and tons of money. Those clowns you mentioned pale in comparison to the bank Azoff will make with The Eagles, Van Halen, Leppard, Journey and on and on and on.


Genius, I mentioned Landau, Allen and McGuiness. Bruce Springsteen, BA and U2. Those three would swallow up your sentence of clients in a single gulp. By the way, Def Lippard arent Azoff clients. Journey doesn't make or won't make dick, REO is back to garage rock. Van Halen is managed by Ray Daniels, not Irving Azoff.

The Eagles are the only money maker in that sentence.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:08 pm
by Rockindeano
nolippin wrote::roll: Oh, for the love of God...Azoff is laughing his ass off at you. "Will it ever go away?" Hell, no because you are a one trick pony in need of constant attention. STFU!!


No.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:10 pm
by Soto All The Way
nolippin wrote::roll: Oh, for the love of God...Azoff is laughing his ass off at you. "Will it ever go away?" Hell, no because you are a one trick pony in need of constant attention. STFU!!

you stupid fucking idotic moronic posting fucker......You're the type that never let's shit go away. You should be banned for this post. Totally uncalled for..........No one should be called a one trick pony.....Asshole!!!!!!

e-

Last line?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm
by journeywoman
donnaplease wrote:Enquiring minds want to know...

Great post, all except that last line. That was a little uncalled for, I must say. :wink:
It was a magnificent post Donna,but the last line, you mean have a nice night,Sir?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm
by yogi
It is Mr Schon's band with Jonathan playing second fiddle.

The blame is 100% theirs!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:13 pm
by nolippin
Sure, Einstein. I never let things go. :roll: This moron drags up this crap from two years ago because he needs the attention.



Soto All The Way wrote:
nolippin wrote::roll: Oh, for the love of God...Azoff is laughing his ass off at you. "Will it ever go away?" Hell, no because you are a one trick pony in need of constant attention. STFU!!

you stupid fucking idotic moronic posting fucker......You're the type that never let's shit go away. You should be banned for this post. Totally uncalled for..........No one should be called a one trick pony.....Asshole!!!!!!

e-

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:17 pm
by Saint John
Rockindeano wrote:
Saint John wrote:"Both are far and away the best at what they do."

By that I meant make tons and tons of money. Those clowns you mentioned pale in comparison to the bank Azoff will make with The Eagles, Van Halen, Leppard, Journey and on and on and on.


Genius, I mentioned Landau, Allen and McGuiness. Bruce Springsteen, BA and U2. Those three would swallow up your sentence of clients in a single gulp. By the way, Def Lippard arent Azoff clients. Journey doesn't make or won't make dick, REO is back to garage rock. Van Halen is managed by Ray Daniels, not Irving Azoff.

The Eagles are the only money maker in that sentence.



News leaked overnight of the band's intention to sign a new management deal with Irving Azoff Management. Azoff's office has made the official "no comment" on the matter, but expect this high profile management company to confirm their equally high profile signing soon.
Irving Azoff is a well known and powerful manager, who currently has The Eagles, Christina Aguilera, Seal, Jewel and of course Journey on his roster.
Azoff has also been Sammy Hagar's solo manager for the last couple of years.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:24 pm
by Andrew
It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:26 pm
by Saint John
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?



I'm getting shit-faced this weekend and blasting Perry, Augeri and Castronovo. :x :evil: :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:26 pm
by Natalie
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?


Yes Andrew, euthanize this horse already!!!

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:27 pm
by Saint John
Nat~At Your Cervix wrote:
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?


Yes Andrew, euthanize this horse already!!!



You've just been added to the list...and I have your phone number. :lol: :shock: :x :evil: :wink: :P

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:28 pm
by Natalie
Saint John wrote:
Nat~At Your Cervix wrote:
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?


Yes Andrew, euthanize this horse already!!!



You've just been added to the list...and I have your phone number. :lol: :shock: :x :evil: :wink: :P

BRING IT ON BITCH!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:29 pm
by Saint John
Nat~At Your Cervix wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Nat~At Your Cervix wrote:
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?


Yes Andrew, euthanize this horse already!!!



You've just been added to the list...and I have your phone number. :lol: :shock: :x :evil: :wink: :P

BRING IT ON BITCH!!! :wink:



Oh...it's on now!!! :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:30 pm
by Rockindeano
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?


What, you cannot have an honest question posed to the Journey Manager because you are in bed with the band? Don't go soft on us now Andrew. I hate that motherfucker Azoff.

Re: Last line?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:31 pm
by donnaplease
journeywoman wrote:
donnaplease wrote:Enquiring minds want to know...

Great post, all except that last line. That was a little uncalled for, I must say. :wink:
It was a magnificent post Donna,but the last line, you mean have a nice night,Sir?


Yeah, Sandy. That's what I was talking about. It was a little joke. Sorry... I'm all outta funny I guess. :cry:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:32 pm
by ScarabGator
HMMMMMMM......... :?: enquiring minds wanna know....

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:34 pm
by Andrew
If I have to step in and delete one more post from within this thread - it is getting closed.

This shit has been done to death. Time to move on. It's not like we have to look into the past to stir up something to talk/bitch/fight about.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:36 pm
by Natalie
Saint John wrote:
Nat~At Your Cervix wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Nat~At Your Cervix wrote:
Andrew wrote:It's going to be a long weekend isn't it?

Shall I just clsoe this thread at the end of business tonight and save myself the headache?


Yes Andrew, euthanize this horse already!!!



You've just been added to the list...and I have your phone number. :lol: :shock: :x :evil: :wink: :P

BRING IT ON BITCH!!! :wink:



Oh...it's on now!!! :lol:

I look forward to it! :lol: :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:38 pm
by Rockindeano
Andrew wrote:If I have to step in and delete one more post from within this thread - it is getting closed.

This shit has been done to death. Time to move on. It's not like we have to look into the past to stir up something to talk/bitch/fight about.


Total bullshit. It is a genuine post and a genuine question.

I was so hard on SA...Maybe, just fucking maybe, we can all think aloud and figure it out, that he wasn't to blame at all. Come on Andrew, I am not trashing to trash. It is an open question. Of course he wont answer but we here can talk about it.

Nolippin, you dumbdick. You really think I expected the old man to answer. My God, I am not trying to rehash for the sake of rehashing.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:40 pm
by Andrew
Rockindeano wrote:
Nolippin, you dumbdick.


Look, if you can't do tis without throwing insults and abuse, then I'm closing it down and if you don't respect that - I'll close you down.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:41 pm
by nolippin
Of course, he isn't going to answer you. You aren't even a boil on his butt. Yes. You are rehashing this shit for nothing but attention.



Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:If I have to step in and delete one more post from within this thread - it is getting closed.

This shit has been done to death. Time to move on. It's not like we have to look into the past to stir up something to talk/bitch/fight about.


Total bullshit. It is a genuine post and a genuine question.

I was soi hard on SA...Maybe, just fucking maybe, we can all think aloud and figure it out, that he wasn't to blame at all. Come on Andrew, I am not trashing to trash. It is an open question. Of course he wont answer but we here can talk about it.

Nolippin, you dumbdick. You really think I expected the old man to answer. My God, I am not trying to rehash for the sake of rehashing.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:42 pm
by Rick
Bait much?

nolippin wrote:Of course, he isn't going to answer you. You aren't even a boil on his butt. Yes. You are rehashing this shit for nothing but attention.


Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:If I have to step in and delete one more post from within this thread - it is getting closed.

This shit has been done to death. Time to move on. It's not like we have to look into the past to stir up something to talk/bitch/fight about.


Total bullshit. It is a genuine post and a genuine question.

I was soi hard on SA...Maybe, just fucking maybe, we can all think aloud and figure it out, that he wasn't to blame at all. Come on Andrew, I am not trashing to trash. It is an open question. Of course he wont answer but we here can talk about it.

Nolippin, you dumbdick. You really think I expected the old man to answer. My God, I am not trying to rehash for the sake of rehashing.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:43 pm
by nolippin
Oh, please, Rick. Someone disagrees with your hero and you pull out the bait card. You're smarter than that.


Rick wrote:Bait much?

nolippin wrote:Of course, he isn't going to answer you. You aren't even a boil on his butt. Yes. You are rehashing this shit for nothing but attention.


Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:If I have to step in and delete one more post from within this thread - it is getting closed.

This shit has been done to death. Time to move on. It's not like we have to look into the past to stir up something to talk/bitch/fight about.


Total bullshit. It is a genuine post and a genuine question.

I was soi hard on SA...Maybe, just fucking maybe, we can all think aloud and figure it out, that he wasn't to blame at all. Come on Andrew, I am not trashing to trash. It is an open question. Of course he wont answer but we here can talk about it.

Nolippin, you dumbdick. You really think I expected the old man to answer. My God, I am not trying to rehash for the sake of rehashing.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:45 pm
by Rick
Andrew has asked all parties to stop, but you just keep throwing out the bait. Don't talk to me like I'm stupid. I've seen this shit too many times. I call them as I see them. And thanks for calling my character into question.

nolippin wrote:Oh, please, Rick. Someone disagrees with your hero and you pull out the bait card. You're smarter than that.


Rick wrote:Bait much?

nolippin wrote:Of course, he isn't going to answer you. You aren't even a boil on his butt. Yes. You are rehashing this shit for nothing but attention.


Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:If I have to step in and delete one more post from within this thread - it is getting closed.

This shit has been done to death. Time to move on. It's not like we have to look into the past to stir up something to talk/bitch/fight about.


Total bullshit. It is a genuine post and a genuine question.

I was soi hard on SA...Maybe, just fucking maybe, we can all think aloud and figure it out, that he wasn't to blame at all. Come on Andrew, I am not trashing to trash. It is an open question. Of course he wont answer but we here can talk about it.

Nolippin, you dumbdick. You really think I expected the old man to answer. My God, I am not trying to rehash for the sake of rehashing.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:46 pm
by Rockindeano
Yeah close it. It was only a 30 minute long write up. Lets get back to talking about how great Generations is and our favourite songs :roll: yippee.

You suck nolippin. You are the male version of Properry. Wouldnt be surprised if you were CJ. Check this IP Andrew. 20 dollars it is a northern Calif IP.