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i think the song walks like a lady off of captured is a good one that comes to mind....

mikemarrs wrote:i think the song walks like a lady off of captured is a good one that comes to mind....

Dude, are you paid by the band to keep posting ridiculous mundane topics to keep the fires low, but still lit? Gay.

To your question, I heard the best Valory bass playing last night. Message of Love. He actually plays on that song. Let's face it, he is an average bass player, at best, and I'll leave it at that.

Rockindeano wrote:

mikemarrs wrote:i think the song walks like a lady off of captured is a good one that comes to mind....

Dude, are you paid by the band to keep posting ridiculous mundane topics to keep the fires low, but still lit? Gay.

To your question, I heard the best Valory bass playing last night. Message of Love. He actually plays on that song. Let's face it, he is an average bass player, at best, and I'll leave it at that.

Agreed. Great fella im sure, but nothing special on the bass, he has made a very good life out of being average.

Kinda like Gene Simmons, poor bass player, average song writer, average singer . . .god i hate Gene Simmons, but he is one clever guy

mikemarrs wrote:i think the song walks like a lady off of captured is a good one that comes to mind....

Uh, Dude....that's Perry's bass line. He wrote that song backstage in Detroit...ON a bass guitar...possibly one belonging to Ross. Perry started on the song and Neal came back and joined in. Perry/Schon magic. Didn't have anything to do with Ross.

Ross Valory has ALWAYS been the most irrelevant member of Journey! They could replace the fucking guy with a robot, and nobody would notice!


John from Boston

Enigma869 wrote:Ross Valory has ALWAYS been the most irrelevant member of Journey! They could replace the fucking guy with a robot, and nobody would notice!


John from Boston

i thought it was a robot

Randy Jackson kicked he ass. Jaskon did a real cool Synth solo on the ROR tour. Ross is average, good ,but average.The bass player in my band is better,and dosent do it for a living. His earlier stuff was better

Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

what happend? if you dont mind my inquiring

I remember that, he is just like the rest of them fuckers,he is just less talented,and has bad breath,and dosent get the chicks like Neal

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

what happend? if you dont mind my inquiring

Loooong story. I exposed the band using vocal tapes. They brought me closer in, in fact we were all partying together on the road. Fast forward 3 months, and Ross decides to go on radio and say that "the fan in question is delirious and needs to get a life." That still grinds my gears.

Ross has actually seemed to lose talent as his career has gone on. The pre-Perry basslines were VERY tasty. He had a few flashes of brilliance, like "One More," and "After the Fall"... oh wait... that one was Randy.

The main redeeming factor ROR has in my eyes, is Randy Jackson's bass. The bass is far and away better, and more prevalent, on ROR than any other Journey album (other than probably Escape).

I'm relatively new to the bass but I'm acing Journey lines left and right. Most of them are really mundane and boring, actually.

Rockindeano wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

what happend? if you dont mind my inquiring

Loooong story. I exposed the band using vocal tapes. They brought me closer in, in fact we were all partying together on the road. Fast forward 3 months, and Ross decides to go on radio and say that "the fan in question is delirious and needs to get a life." That still grinds my gears.

as im stil new to the forum but have been reading for a while i did think that you had some involvement with the band but i wasnt exactly sure what had gone on. I also didnt know that Journey denied the tapegate incident, i just thought that they didnt admit to it, thanks for the info

"Homemade Love" has some interesting bass fills during the breakdown.

Hey Mike, is Andrew paying you to keep us busy and out of trouble with valid threads like this?

Thread jack!!!

I'll answer the original question. Even though it's not the most difficult bass line, I've always loved the bass on "Who's Cryin now". Love that tune!

Now back to our regularly jacked-up thread!

Rick wrote:Hey Mike, is Andrew paying you to keep us busy and out of trouble with valid threads like this?

mikemarrs wrote:

Rick wrote:Hey Mike, is Andrew paying you to keep us busy and out of trouble with valid threads like this?

Ross looks like a Clampett in that pic.

Rockindeano wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

what happend? if you dont mind my inquiring

Loooong story. I exposed the band using vocal tapes. They brought me closer in, in fact we were all partying together on the road. Fast forward 3 months, and Ross decides to go on radio and say that "the fan in question is delirious and needs to get a life." That still grinds my gears.

Your a funny guy mate, what do you expect though!, you said those things. Dude you crack me up! you are one in a million, that's a good thing, but who cares what Ross thinks?... this band has become irrelevant since 1996, since Steve "the voice" Perry left.

Vladan wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

what happend? if you dont mind my inquiring

Loooong story. I exposed the band using vocal tapes. They brought me closer in, in fact we were all partying together on the road. Fast forward 3 months, and Ross decides to go on radio and say that "the fan in question is delirious and needs to get a life." That still grinds my gears.

Your a funny guy mate, what do you expect though!, you said those things. Dude you crack me up! you are one in a million, that's a good thing, but who cares what Ross thinks?... this band has become irrelevant since 1996, since Steve "the voice" Perry left.

The fact is, they (Journey) knew what they had done. Then they treated Dean like a friend and then lambaste him in a news article like that? I wouldn't care for it either. It doesn't mean much to a casual fan, but for the folks that know Deano and the band, that comment was wrong.

shit i feel like cranking some frumious bandersnatch.....

Rick wrote:

Vladan wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Ross burned his bridge with me. After hanging with him in Beantown, he later called me out in the Press. I won't forget that. He sucks.

what happend? if you dont mind my inquiring

Loooong story. I exposed the band using vocal tapes. They brought me closer in, in fact we were all partying together on the road. Fast forward 3 months, and Ross decides to go on radio and say that "the fan in question is delirious and needs to get a life." That still grinds my gears.

Your a funny guy mate, what do you expect though!, you said those things. Dude you crack me up! you are one in a million, that's a good thing, but who cares what Ross thinks?... this band has become irrelevant since 1996, since Steve "the voice" Perry left.

The fact is, they (Journey) knew what they had done. Then they treated Dean like a friend and then lambaste him in a news article like that? I wouldn't care for it either. It doesn't mean much to a casual fan, but for the folks that know Deano and the band, that comment was wrong.

Well fair enough, I don't know the full story. But from where I am from friends don't talk ill things about each other, so from who's ever perspective this is from - if people were friends from the start, why did that all happen. Either way, you don't act like your somebodies friend, then treat them like dirt - so if that's the case, then it's a show of bad character.

So, from what I'm reading here, it clearly shows both parties are guilty in some way. I can side with Dean because! he is a fan, and the Journey boys should be honest and more mature about it, after all we are all fans, and fans don't like being cheated!, so perhaps if they didn't cheat the fans in the first place, non of this would of happened. But again! I have no proof on anything.

Dean, please don't take this post to heart.

Man...WTF...Ross is a GREAT bass player and THE bass player for Journey. He was extremely 'tight' with Steve Smith. La Do Da from captures is my personal favorite. Randy plays too 'white'...'nuff said

mikemarrs wrote:i think the song walks like a lady off of captured is a good one that comes to mind....

SP once said that he wrote 'Walks Like a Lady' on the bass. He may not have recorded the bass line, but he said he wrote it. I imagine not all of it though. Of course, the solos off Captured are a totally different story.


later~

Valory does a solo on that live in Japan 1980 video that's much longer than the one on "Captured". It actually has some cool stuff, and definitely shows a higher degree of difficulty than the shorter version on Captured. I wish this longer version made it on the album.

Also, I've always liked the bass line on "Stone in Love" as well. However, on the live versions, Valory completely omits the fills during the chorus (right after "those summer nights are callin'"). Not sure why he doesn't recreate the studio version closer on this one. They are not extremely difficult fills, just cool ones.

As someone else posted here a while back, Ross' bass is "alive" on the E5C4P3 album. By far his best recorded work, and that's saying something. But for me, La Raza Del Sol has the best bass lines.

The Escape songs best showcase his style, I think. Stone in Love, Who's Crying Now, etc.

NealIsGod wrote;
But for me, La Raza Del Sol has the best bass lines.

That is a good one. I like the bass line and the drum pattern on that one.