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Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:04 am
by finalfight
Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:05 am
by Rick
finalfight wrote:Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327


Rush ripped off Journey. Listen to Nickel and Dime.

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:08 am
by finalfight
Rick wrote:
finalfight wrote:Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327


Rush ripped off Journey. Listen to Nickel and Dime.


I would but I can't listen to Geddy Lee's voice - doctor's orders. Besides it would cause unrest with neighbourhood cats! :wink:

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:10 am
by Rick
finalfight wrote:
Rick wrote:
finalfight wrote:Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327


Rush ripped off Journey. Listen to Nickel and Dime.


I would but I can't listen to Geddy Lee's voice - doctor's orders. Besides it would cause unrest with neighbourhood cats! :wink:


Bwaaahaaahaaa! Well then give Nickel and Dime a listen for old times sake. :lol:

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:10 am
by mistiejourney
finalfight wrote:Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327


That's a cool video! : D At least Dokken has good taste!

I still say that the guitar riff at the end of "Strung Out" by Steve Perry sounds very much like "Hammer to Fall" by Queen, but these were amazing.

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:15 am
by finalfight
mistiejourney wrote:
finalfight wrote:Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327


That's a cool video! : D At least Dokken has good taste!

I still say that the guitar riff at the end of "Strung Out" by Steve Perry sounds very much like "Hammer to Fall" by Queen, but these were amazing.


Here's a few more -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaYlODiF57o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNfvvXlUO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Lgi1YVKNk

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:17 am
by Aaron
Have a look at 1:12 on this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327

Neal, you stealing bastard!


finalfight wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:
finalfight wrote:Sorry Rip couldn't resist! :D If it's any consolation it appears that Judas Priest also ripped them off - skip to 2 minutes & 12 seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327


That's a cool video! : D At least Dokken has good taste!

I still say that the guitar riff at the end of "Strung Out" by Steve Perry sounds very much like "Hammer to Fall" by Queen, but these were amazing.


Here's a few more -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaYlODiF57o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNfvvXlUO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Lgi1YVKNk

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:44 pm
by Perrydise
Where is Rip on this one :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:00 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
this was great!! 8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:25 pm
by Rip Rokken
Perrydise wrote:Where is Rip on this one :lol:


Here's I am! :P That was funny... and as SOON as they started playing "Round And Round" by RATT, I KNEW "All She Wrote" by Firehouse must be the follow-up. I haven't heard many people make that comparison, but when I first heard that Firehouse tune I thought immediately of "Round and Round".

As Larry mentioned, though, Dokken didn't rip off Journey... They ripped off Priest, who themselves had ripped off Journey. :P

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:27 pm
by conversationpc
Most of those are tunes that just happen to sound similar. It's bound to happen as much music as there is out there.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:29 pm
by mistiejourney
conversationpc wrote:Most of those are tunes that just happen to sound similar. It's bound to happen as much music as there is out there.


I'm no music theorist, but there are certain chord progressions that we "expect" when we listen to music. Almost like we "know" what should come next and if it doesn't the music sounds dissonant to us.

I've read a few books on the subject, but I'll stop before I start sounding like a pseudo-professor! :D

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:33 pm
by Rip Rokken
conversationpc wrote:Most of those are tunes that just happen to sound similar. It's bound to happen as much music as there is out there.


I agree, though I'm sure there are plenty of true rip-offs out there. Probably none of those, though. I tell ya what happens to me, sometimes, is that I'll start writing a song I really like, only to figure out later that I subconsciously snagged the riff from hearing another song, and I end up having to modify it.

I have discovered a very cool way to come up with new ideas for songs, though, and it works like a charm to kick in the imagination...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:35 pm
by mistiejourney
Rip Rokken wrote:
conversationpc wrote:Most of those are tunes that just happen to sound similar. It's bound to happen as much music as there is out there.


I agree, though I'm sure there are plenty of true rip-offs out there. Probably none of those, though. I tell ya what happens to me, sometimes, is that I'll start writing a song I really like, only to figure out later that I subconsciously snagged the riff from hearing another song, and I end up having to modify it.

I have discovered a very cool way to come up with new ideas for songs, though, and it works like a charm to kick in the imagination...


Careful - John Fogerty got sued for ripping himself off! Man, would I have killed to be a juror at that trial.......

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:43 pm
by Rip Rokken
mistiejourney wrote:Careful - John Fogerty got sued for ripping himself off! Man, would I have killed to be a juror at that trial.......


Oh, yeah... I remember that! Speaking of artists ripping themselves off, I have a new one I discovered the other day. Was finally listening to Soul Sirkus for the first time, and noticed in one of the slower songs (maybe around track 5-6), Neal's lead was virtually identical to one from the Journey song "Trial By Fire". Any hardcore Soul Sirkus fans here should know immediately what I'm talking about.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:55 pm
by Ms_M
Didn't the book with Time3 mention something about a Kansas song, too? It's late, I've had my Ambien, so I'm not 100% about it... Hope someone can help a sleepy one out. ;)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:40 am
by Rockindeano
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:41 am
by Rockindeano
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:47 am
by Liam
Ms_M wrote:Didn't the book with Time3 mention something about a Kansas song, too? It's late, I've had my Ambien, so I'm not 100% about it... Hope someone can help a sleepy one out. ;)


I'm Gonna Leave You was ripped off by Kansas for Carry On Wayward Son. :-)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:48 am
by journeyrock
Now, that pic is priceless! Marketing, it's all in the marketing. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:49 am
by Rip Rokken
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:P :P :P

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:08 pm
by Lula
:lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:11 pm
by Saint John
Dean's gonna blow a gasket when he sees that. :lol: Good one, Rip!!! 8) :shock: :twisted:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:12 pm
by T-Bone
Here's a RipOff for ya...

Go listen to the Black N Blue song called Nasty Nasty, and then go listen to the Kiss song Domino. Keep in mind that Nasty Nasty came out in 86-87 and Domino came out in 1992, AND that Gene Simmons also produced Black N Blue back in the day :wink:

Prince

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:18 pm
by CatEyes
Ok my memory is avoiding details right now ..... however, Prince stole one of Neal's solos - almost note for note.

It was one of those awesome outro solo's.

Anyway, Prince played it in one of his songs that would go on to be a hit.

At the last minute, he realized what had happened.

He called friga and fro and management and apologized and admitted to being a fan and accidentally stealing the piece.

Journey told him that it was cool - no lawsuits - just a good story for everyone involved.

Cat

Re: Dokken ripped off Journey!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:14 pm
by FishinMagician
[quote="Aaron"]Have a look at 1:12 on this ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GewZcwRQ ... emID=88327

Neal, you stealing bastard!




what is at 1 12?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:01 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
im telling ya straight out!! this kid was born to ROCK!!! :wink: ..or fight!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:07 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
T-Bone wrote:Here's a RipOff for ya...

Go listen to the Black N Blue song called Nasty Nasty, and then go listen to the Kiss song Domino. Keep in mind that Nasty Nasty came out in 86-87 and Domino came out in 1992, AND that Gene Simmons also produced Black N Blue back in the day :wink:


wow.. i never made that connection ,, its right there!!! :shock: