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What do you think..?

Journey69 wrote:What do you think..?

Okay, total honesty (which makes me a total hypocrite)....

In a heartbeat.

I'm just sayin'

Unfair question. If JSS rerecorded the GH and it was part of a package with new material I would buy it. I will not buy the GH rerecorded by anyone (other than Perry) by itself.

Wasn't sure if "Not Happening" and "Still Wouldn't" were the same answer. I voted Not Happening thinking it was the same as Still Wouldn't as I was against this when it was discussed as a possibility with JSS and I'm still against it now.

Since we like discussing "what if" scenarios to somehow catch us diehards in a hypocritical thought process, let's try this one on for size:

Neal loses his fingers in a horrible motorcycle accident (God forbid, Neal, just saying).
Cain, Deen, Ross and Arnel need to continue for financial reasons and replace Neal with Josh Ramos, then decide they want to re-record the GH's note for note, again for financial reasons.

Think he'd give them a thumbs up (assuming he still had them of course )?


Would you want to purchase that album?


People can of course do what they want, but for me, the only legitimate reason to re-record the GH's is to use as mp3 samplers on their website to entice fans to come see a show with a singer who isn't Perry. The rest is exploitation of the fan base.

tough question. hmmm. I don't see the point of re-recording really so probably no.

in addition, I'll go with this--if it meant that Jeff stops what HE is doing, no way. but then again, i'd buy Jeff singing the obituaries so then I gotta say yes.

i dunno. I'm stumped

don't they get tired/bored playing the same songs all the time? as an artist you would think they would be burnt already. i was thinking the other day about neal. i think he is an amazing guitarist... but is that just because he has played the same notes for so long... he can prolly play the dirty dozen in his sleep... and still nail it. so how good is he really? he just plays the same notes over & over & over again... for years! creatively speaking... you think he would be bored with it or want to write new music... and play new music. just a thought! }:C)


btw... i would/will buy anything jss did/does... in a heartbeat! i sewtoe! }:C))

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:tough question. hmmm. I don't see the point of re-recording really so probably no.

in addition, I'll go with this--if it meant that Jeff stops what HE is doing, no way. but then again, i'd buy Jeff singing the obituaries so then I gotta say yes.

i dunno. I'm stumped

Just trying to picture JSS doing the obits.

STORY_TELLER wrote:Wasn't sure if "Not Happening" and "Still Wouldn't" were the same answer. I voted Not Happening thinking it was the same as Still Wouldn't as I was against this when it was discussed as a possibility with JSS and I'm still against it now.

Since we like discussing "what if" scenarios to somehow catch us diehards in a hypocritical thought process, let's try this one on for size:

Neal loses his fingers in a horrible motorcycle accident (God forbid, Neal, just saying).
Cain, Deen, Ross and Arnel need to continue for financial reasons and replace Neal with Josh Ramos, then decide they want to re-record the GH's note for note, again for financial reasons.

Think he'd give them a thumbs up (assuming he still had them of course )?


Would you want to purchase that album?


People can of course do what they want, but for me, the only legitimate reason to re-record the GH's is to use as mp3 samplers on their website to entice fans to come see a show with a singer who isn't Perry. The rest is exploitation of the fan base.

Definitely caught me in a hypocritical thought process - I didn't have to think twice!

i was strongly against jss re-recording the hits... thought it to be a great waste of his talent... and time. i could see a dvd of the 2006 tour... maybe a new cd with a few gh songs added but a whole cd??? if it had happened i wouldn't be too pleased but i would buy it. hey... it's jss! }:C)

I'll pick buy it - simply because I have heard JSS on a few studio takes done on the Journey classics. Blew me away...

On the fence -

On one hand like with Pineda re-recording the best cant be improved on-

But on the other , with Jeff sounding so different than Perry, the re-recording could be seen not as simply trying to out do or mask over Perry, but instead an effort to pay tribute to the orignal work by interpreting in a slightly different , but not better light. The Pineda effort certainly is NOT this which is why I aint interested.

the motivations for a potential JSS re recording and the upcoming Pineda recording would be as different as the overall motivations for the two lead singers .

Andrew wrote:I'll pick buy it - simply because I have heard JSS on a few studio takes done on the Journey classics. Blew me away...

Perhaps Jeff should consider releasing his own Journey covers album including songs that came out of the bottom drawer when he was tour with them - Dead or Alive etc? This would certainly be popular and I would speculate maybe his best selling album?

There is the downside that Journey would receive some royalty payments though.

As much as I love JSS I still wouldn't buy any re-recording of the GH. Those are Perry's. I wouldn't be as disgusted with the band for doing it as I am now though because it wouldn't be a direct knock-off like this one is.

If it was part of a package with new music like this one is supposed to be, I would wait and find a way to get the new stuff without the GH.

ohsherrie wrote:As much as I love JSS I still wouldn't buy any re-recording of the GH. Those are Perry's. I wouldn't be as disgusted with the band for doing it as I am now though because it wouldn't be a direct knock-off like this one is.

If it was part of a package with new music like this one is supposed to be, I would wait and find a way to get the new stuff without the GH.

There are two things that you can always rely on in the music business. There will always be cover artsits/albums and songs will often be re-recorded following a lead singer replacement. This happens all the time sometimes for the better but often for the worse. The only reason that there has been such a delay with Journey is because of the legal agreement that Perry had with the band to preserve the 'legacy'.

Now I love Perry's work but he is no longer a physical member of the band. I would guess that a move such as this not only makes financial sense to the current members on many levels but also allows them to attempt to find new markets without having people always look to the past and then engage in some new singer vs old singer negativity. Although I am sure they would want the royalties from the sales of past work Journey's money predominantly comes from touring so all things considered this is a positive move.

We will always have the original recordings - they aren't going anywhere. Steve Perry has his legacy and will always be remembered as being the voice of Journey. It's just more Journey music to enjoy, a refreshed take if you will. It will certainly be interesting to hear if the music has been adapted in anyway and the cobwebs blown off and I honestly think it will sell. At least I hope it does.

"Still wouldn't" and "Not happening" are the same choice, aren't they?

finalfight wrote:
There are two things that you can always rely on in the music business. There will always be cover artsits/albums and songs will often be re-recorded following a lead singer replacement. This happens all the time sometimes for the better but often for the worse. The only reason that there has been such a delay with Journey is because of the legal agreement that Perry had with the band to preserve the 'legacy'.

Now I love Perry's work but he is no longer a physical member of the band. I would guess that a move such as this not only makes financial sense to the current members on many levels but also allows them to attempt to find new markets without having people always look to the past and then engage in some new singer vs old singer negativity. Although I am sure they would want the royalties from the sales of past work Journey's money predominantly comes from touring so all things considered this is a positive move.

We will always have the original recordings - they aren't going anywhere. Steve Perry has his legacy and will always be remembered as being the voice of Journey. It's just more Journey music to enjoy, a refreshed take if you will. It will certainly be interesting to hear if the music has been adapted in anyway and the cobwebs blown off and I honestly think it will sell. At least I hope it does.

No, Neal, Jon, and Ross with another singer do not necessarily mean Journey to everyone just because they have the name and re-record the GH.

If it is to you, that's fine, but the poll also gave options to those of us who don't feel that way.

I was looking very forward to a new Journey direction with JSS, but the GH isn't a new direction. It's just ripping off the legacy from the man who gave them that legacy, IMO.

What's a "JSS" ???

I went with "still wouldn't". As I stated in the other thread about this (well, one of them anyway), I don't care what singer it is, they shouldn't be rerecording jack shit and I think it's a ridiculous idea. God knows there are going to be dvds, maybe a live album down the line somewhere, which would naturally include these performances and that should be enough. Fans will hear them done on stage. Going into a studio and replacing tracks that have already sold millions, stood the test of time and made their mark as "Journey's music" is just fucking goofy. Its ART. Leave it alone. It's like trying to repaint Starry Night.

For other stars to cover a band's or artists music is one thing.
For the band itself to get a new singer and replace all their HITS is just batshit crazy.

ohsherrie wrote:

finalfight wrote:
There are two things that you can always rely on in the music business. There will always be cover artsits/albums and songs will often be re-recorded following a lead singer replacement. This happens all the time sometimes for the better but often for the worse. The only reason that there has been such a delay with Journey is because of the legal agreement that Perry had with the band to preserve the 'legacy'.

Now I love Perry's work but he is no longer a physical member of the band. I would guess that a move such as this not only makes financial sense to the current members on many levels but also allows them to attempt to find new markets without having people always look to the past and then engage in some new singer vs old singer negativity. Although I am sure they would want the royalties from the sales of past work Journey's money predominantly comes from touring so all things considered this is a positive move.

We will always have the original recordings - they aren't going anywhere. Steve Perry has his legacy and will always be remembered as being the voice of Journey. It's just more Journey music to enjoy, a refreshed take if you will. It will certainly be interesting to hear if the music has been adapted in anyway and the cobwebs blown off and I honestly think it will sell. At least I hope it does.

No, Neal, Jon, and Ross with another singer do not necessarily mean Journey to everyone just because they have the name and re-record the GH.

If it is to you, that's fine, but the poll also gave options to those of us who don't feel that way.

I was looking very forward to a new Journey direction with JSS, but the GH isn't a new direction. It's just ripping off the legacy from the man who gave them that legacy, IMO.

So the band was heading in a new Journey direction with JSS singing but not with Arnel...? Regardless of the legacy and like it or not the band IS still Journey without Steve Perry and has been for the past 10 years out on the road bringing the music to the fans. I dare say the band may have had success with any number of singers it just happened to be Perry (and Cain) that became the catalyst of a new direction. Perhaps Arnel could be the catalyst for similar success this time around?

Who knows, remain positive and enjoy the ride as bumpy as it may be.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:I went with "still wouldn't". As I stated in the other thread about this (well, one of them anyway), I don't care what singer it is, they shouldn't be rerecording jack shit and I think it's a ridiculous idea. God knows there are going to be dvds, maybe a live album down the line somewhere, which would naturally include these performances and that should be enough. Fans will hear them done on stage. Going into a studio and replacing tracks that have already sold millions, stood the test of time and made their mark as "Journey's music" is just fucking goofy. Its ART. Leave it alone. It's like trying to repaint Starry Night.

For other stars to cover a band's or artists music is one thing.
For the band itself to get a new singer and replace all their HITS is just batshit crazy.

gotta agree with you there

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
For other stars to cover a band's or artists music is one thing.
For the band itself to get a new singer and replace all their HITS is just batshit crazy.

Yet it is happening more and more frequently. I reckon the advent of computers and home studios has made this kind of thing an affordable option for many bands that would have been unable to tamper in the past due to cost implications. Don't like a singer change them. Don't like certain instruments change them (ala Ozzy Osbourne). Its become very, very easy.

treetopovskaya wrote:i was strongly against jss re-recording the hits... thought it to be a great waste of his talent... and time. i could see a dvd of the 2006 tour... maybe a new cd with a few gh songs added but a whole cd??? if it had happened i wouldn't be too pleased but i would buy it. hey... it's jss! }:C)

Same thoughts. I think his talents would be better put to use on something new than re-recording the GHs. I would buy it also. I think it would be a little more unique, because unlike Arnel, JSS has a different vocal tone than Perry.

Saint John wrote:Unfair question. If JSS rerecorded the GH and it was part of a package with new material I would buy it. I will not buy the GH rerecorded by anyone (other than Perry) by itself.

Ditto for me or maybe tritto at this point....

I voted for NOT HAPPENING!

Deb wrote:

treetopovskaya wrote:i was strongly against jss re-recording the hits... thought it to be a great waste of his talent... and time. i could see a dvd of the 2006 tour... maybe a new cd with a few gh songs added but a whole cd??? if it had happened i wouldn't be too pleased but i would buy it. hey... it's jss! }:C)

Same thoughts. I think his talents would be better put to use on something new than re-recording the GHs. I would buy it also. I think it would be a little more unique, because unlike Arnel, JSS has a different vocal tone than Perry.

Definately looking forward to anything Jeff does in the future.

Absolutely, and mainly to support Jeff. He deserves his big break in America, which should have come a long time ago.

I love Jeff and would have supported him in Journey...but I would not have been happy about a rerecorded record. Leave the past in the past.

I dont mind seeing a live release of these songs, but to redo them? pointless!


Jeff would have brought to Journey what Sammy Hagar brought to VH.....a new direction. Would any of you have welcomed Sammy redoing all of dave's songs?

strangegrey wrote:I love Jeff and would have supported him in Journey...but I would not have been happy about a rerecorded record. Leave the past in the past.

I dont mind seeing a live release of these songs, but to redo them? pointless!


Jeff would have brought to Journey what Sammy Hagar brought to VH.....a new direction. Would any of you have welcomed Sammy redoing all of dave's songs?

LOL, I just posted pretty much the same thing in another thread.

This is a stupid question mainly because Jeff dit NOT want to re-do the classics. That is one of the main reasons that he isnt with Journey today. He said more than once that he does not want to do a remake of the old hits, but rather new songs and take Journey to a new direction.
Considering his wishes and the band thinking differently, this of course resulted in the road that brought us here.
Now I think it wouldve been a totally different situation, had Jeff stayed with Journey,,, released 2-3 albums with NEW material over the next 4-5 years, THEN do a greatest hits album with the best from past to present.

dont have to think twice, i would only purchase live recordings plus new music.
In all three cases Augeri, JSS or Arnel. I would not purchase a GH package only from either of these three guys.


Rick

Still, NO!!!