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This naming bullshit pisses me off! I grew up with Fenway Park and The Boston Garden, and that's just how things were. This corporate branding of sporting venues is becoming nauseating! It's one thing to call some cookie cutter building in Los Angeles "The Staples Center", but to fuck with the name of Wrigley Field simply crosses the line!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3266721


John from Boston

Enigma869 wrote:This naming bullshit pisses me off! I grew up with Fenway Park and The Boston Garden, and that's just how things were. This corporate branding of sporting venues is becoming nauseating! It's one thing to call some cookie cutter building in Los Angeles "The Staples Center", but to fuck with the name of Wrigley Field simply crosses the line!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3266721


John from Boston

That's sinful to mess with Wrigley.
I'll never call that place anything else. Kinda like the Summit in Houston that was renamed to Compaq Center and then a few years later it turned into a Church. YES...the place where Journey recorded the '81 DVD is now a fucking CHURCH. But, I'll always call it the Summit.
I AM actually suprised that Texas Stadium never got a corporate name attached to it like Qwest field in Seattle. With all the years the Cowboys have played there....I think it's kinda cool that it never has been renamed.

Liam wrote:I AM actually suprised that Texas Stadium never got a corporate name attached to it like Qwest field in Seattle. With all the years the Cowboys have played there....I think it's kinda cool that it never has been renamed.

I'm sure that will all change with Jerry Jones' new billion dollar stadium that's being built in Texas. I'm sure it won't be long before it's called "Dell's Texas Stadium". I'm with you on Wrigley...That's simply blasphemous. You can't fuck with shrines like Wrigley, Fenway, and Yankee Stadium (although I think this is the last year for Yankee Stadium)!


John from Boston

Enigma869 wrote:

Liam wrote:I AM actually suprised that Texas Stadium never got a corporate name attached to it like Qwest field in Seattle. With all the years the Cowboys have played there....I think it's kinda cool that it never has been renamed.

I'm sure that will all change with Jerry Jones' new billion dollar stadium that's being built in Texas. I'm sure it won't be long before it's called "Dell's Texas Stadium". I'm with you on Wrigley...That's simply blasphemous. You can't fuck with shrines like Wrigley, Fenway, and Yankee Stadium (although I think this is the last year for Yankee Stadium)!


John from Boston

You're probably right about Tx Stadium. After Cowboys Stadium is built...I'm sure some corporate office will take it over eventually.
Yankee stadium is going down too? Demolished or just a new name? I know Shea is going down (demolished) soon...just curious.

The Rose Bowl wouldn't allow it.

They settled on the "Rose Bowl Game brought to you by, AT+T."


So what John? Let these adverts get their names on stadiums...the real sports fan is not going to say, "Hey John, would you like to go to the Bruins game at Fleet Center?" They will most likely say, "dude, let's get a case of Sams and hit the B's tonight."

Liam wrote:

Enigma869 wrote:This naming bullshit pisses me off! I grew up with Fenway Park and The Boston Garden, and that's just how things were. This corporate branding of sporting venues is becoming nauseating! It's one thing to call some cookie cutter building in Los Angeles "The Staples Center", but to fuck with the name of Wrigley Field simply crosses the line!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3266721


John from Boston

That's sinful to mess with Wrigley.
I'll never call that place anything else. Kinda like the Summit in Houston that was renamed to Compaq Center and then a few years later it turned into a Church. YES...the place where Journey recorded the '81 DVD is now a fucking CHURCH. But, I'll always call it the Summit.
I AM actually suprised that Texas Stadium never got a corporate name attached to it like Qwest field in Seattle. With all the years the Cowboys have played there....I think it's kinda cool that it never has been renamed.

I have been to a service there (at the former Summit). Very weird - the first thing I thought about was where I sat for the ROR show in '86. The second, was where I was sitting at a Whitesnake show in '87 when a guy used my lighter to light up a HUGE joint. LOL!

Enigma869 wrote:This naming pisses me off!

John from Boston

i dont know if it actually helps the "namers" either,, its a good way for the teams to make some fast bucks though!!

remember when Candelstick was named 3.Com???? i STILL dont know what 3.com is ,, i bet they spent a million bucks

to get their name in big lights too...and now that stadium is named Monster.. MONSTER????

The person selling the naming rights to Wrigley Field AND the person buying them should both be painfully and slowly castrated.

conversationpc wrote:The person selling the naming rights to Wrigley Field AND the person buying them should both be painfully and slowly castrated.

I couldn't agree with you more! Not to mention, does The Tribune Company really need more money?


John from Boston

Jerry Jones is a financial 'god'. (Maybe he's not Trump. Don't even know if they've ever met. Can't imagine what it'd be like if they ever collaborated. Don't think they would. Egos?) I remember being a guest of a friend of a friend at a duck hunting camp in Stuttgart, AR. The phone rings and the host yells, "Jerry, it's Emmit." That was all it took to tell me that I was in DEEP company. We went on to raise thousands for the local economy...BFE Arkansas at its best.

Now then, I can't hardly imagine that the Cowboys' stadium will ever have a corporate name attached. I don't condemn all the parks that do, I just think that the "home of the Dallas Cowboys" will be just that, no matter who really is the $$$ behind it all. And I also think for sure that JJ would never have it any other way. Yes, he can be a very self-righteous man, however, he does maintain that the Cowboys are America's tean, not his.


later~

Arkansas wrote: Jerry Jones is a financial 'god'.

Maybe. He's also the biggest jackass on the planet and one of the worst owners in the NFL, in spite of his early success with GREAT teams!

Arkansas wrote: Now then, I can't hardly imagine that the Cowboys' stadium will ever have a corporate name attached.

I couldn't disagree more. Jerry Jones has already been on record as saying he wants to see the salary cap in the NFL abolished. I don't care how much money the guy has. These guys can NEVER have enough money. If he is offered the right sum of money, you'll see a corporate name on that new stadium. From what I understand, he's already swindled a boatload of money out of taxpayers for the new stadium, so he's obviously not opposed to taking money from any place he can find it! Wrigley Field has FAR more history than Texas Stadium, and if Wrigley Field can be re-named, then ANY facility can fall victim to the loathsome corporate name!

Arkansas wrote: Yes, he can be a very self-righteous man, however, he does maintain that the Cowboys are America's tean, not his.

later~

Jones doesn't "maintain" the Cowboys as "America's Team"! Cowboys fans really need to stop with this nonsense! Everyone who is a sports fan in this country knows that the "America's Team" monniker was dreamt up and given to the Cowboys by the fucking Cowboys! It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of! I can assure you that the people outside of Dallas and the Cowboys fan club have NEVER considered the Cowboys "America's Team". There is no "America's Team", and if there were, I'd give it to Green Bay (a team that is actually owned by the community they play in)!


John from Boston

Enigma869 wrote:

Arkansas wrote: Jerry Jones is a financial 'god'.

Maybe. He's also the biggest jackass on the planet and one of the worst owners in the NFL, in spite of his early success with GREAT teams!

Arkansas wrote: Now then, I can't hardly imagine that the Cowboys' stadium will ever have a corporate name attached.

I couldn't disagree more. Jerry Jones has already been on record as saying he wants to see the salary cap in the NFL abolished. I don't care how much money the guy has. These guys can NEVER have enough money. If he is offered the right sum of money, you'll see a corporate name on that new stadium. From what I understand, he's already swindled a boatload of money out of taxpayers for the new stadium, so he's obviously not opposed to taking money from any place he can find it! Wrigley Field has FAR more history than Texas Stadium, and if Wrigley Field can be re-named, then ANY facility can fall victim to the loathsome corporate name!

Arkansas wrote: Yes, he can be a very self-righteous man, however, he does maintain that the Cowboys are America's tean, not his.

later~

Jones doesn't "maintain" the Cowboys as "America's Team"! Cowboys fans really need to stop with this nonsense! Everyone who is a sports fan in this country knows that the "America's Team" monniker was dreamt up and given to the Cowboys by the fucking Cowboys! It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of! I can assure you that the people outside of Dallas and the Cowboys fan club have NEVER considered the Cowboys "America's Team". There is no "America's Team", and if there were, I'd give it to Green Bay (a team that is actually owned by the community they play in)!


John from Boston

John, I agree with you on Jones as being a jackass, and I agree that he'll have that stadium named after whatever sponsor pays the most. It'll be the Campbells Soup stadium in Arlington before it's all over. But most Cowboys fans don't propogate the America's Team moniker. And if we do, it's just to get someone's goat. That moniker is as embarassing as Jones himself.

Rick wrote:John, I agree with you on Jones as being a jackass, and I agree that he'll have that stadium named after whatever sponsor pays the most. It'll be the Campbells Soup stadium in Arlington before it's all over. But most Cowboys fans don't propogate the America's Team moniker. And if we do, it's just to get someone's goat. That moniker is as embarassing as Jones himself.

I have to tell you Rick...I've met A LOT of Cowboys fans over the years, and have never met a single one of them I could stand being in a room with for 10 minutes! I could go to the stadium with you and watch the Patriots record...errrr, I mean whoop up on your Cowboys You're a level headed dude, who simply "gets it"! The Cowboys fans who understand just how truly embarrassing "America's Team" is have my respect. I heard a guy (a Boston guy) tell me the Patriots were the new "America's Team", on the heels of winning their first Super Bowl on the heels of 9/11, and I wanted to smack him. I would NEVER want any team I rooted for to be called such a ridiculous name, and for them to actually give themselves the idiotic name is beyond embarrassing!

I know some on this website have complained about "Red Sox Nation". While I am admittedly biased, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad. In fact, I've always taken it as the Red Sox are a team who have fans across the nation and sell out every visiting ballpark they visit. While I have no problem with anyone who hates the name, it still isn't a name that suggests, even remotely, that we think our team is the greatest team ever! In fact, "Red Sox Nation" has absolutely NOTHING to do with the team...It's about the fans!


John from Boston

The whole America's Team thing was just a marketing gimmick used in the '70's by Tex Schramm. It worked and worked well. The Cowboys were the most commercialized team in the '70's and early 80's. After all...they won more games in the 70's than any other team so it worked back then. But I agree that it's a rather goofy name to give yourself. If ever there WERE an "America's Team"...I would agree that it would be Green Bay. Community owned and aren't they the oldest team in the league?
But back to the original topic...I hope Cowboys Stadium doesn't turn into something like "Google Stadium" or something off the wall like that. In OTHER words...DON'T FUCK WITH THE NAME, JONES.

Perhaps the Wrigley chewing gum company should be the sponsor ??? just thinkin.

actually the Dallas Cowboys do have a major sponsor for their remodel.

It will be called "Cowboy Tampon Arena"

while in Cleveland there will be "Summers Eve Browns Douche Stadium"

WIX wrote:
while in Cleveland there will be "Summers Eve Browns Douche Stadium"

Sounds quite appropriate for The Mistake By The Lake


John from Boston