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In a few ways, I think so...
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 28,00.html

TRAGChick wrote:Gen-X: Are we "forgotten"?

Who are you?

TRAGChick wrote:In a few ways, I think so...
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 28,00.html

This is BRILLIANT Trag! I've been waiting for someone to write this book for years...We in Gen X have ALWAYS had the boomers shoved down our throats (no offense, those of you in that crowd- it was the media's fault!) and right when it was "our time" suddenly everything became "youth oriented" and we just got skipped right over! (AND- for all you melodic rockers,wonder why the bands of OUR youth -say...hmmm ...JOURNEY maybe? - keep getting marginalized and skipped over for accolades like the R and R hall of shame? Here's why!!!

God- It's about freaking time someone wrote this! I'm buying this book tomorrow! Thanks, Trag!

Thanks for sharing that, Nora. I absolutely agree with this. We definitely got sandwiched out. And the whole thing about coming out of college to a recession - so true. When I graduated from high school, we were told, "Go to college. Get a degree in ANYTHING. You'll be able to get a job." Ok, I did just that and then couldn't get a job in my field. So many of my friends could tell the same story.

Ms_M wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Nora. I absolutely agree with this. We definitely got sandwiched out. And the whole thing about coming out of college to a recession - so true. When I graduated from high school, we were told, "Go to college. Get a degree in ANYTHING. You'll be able to get a job." Ok, I did just that and then couldn't get a job in my field. So many of my friends could tell the same story.

yep, the people that got trade training actually got the better deal

Is anyone else thinking the same thing I am, which is...WHO CARES??? Do your own thing, do it well, and don't bitch and complain about getting "skipped over" or not getting publicity. This pisses me off more than hearing about stupid baby boomers (and what a dumb-sounding term that is, but I'll save that for another rant...).

conversationpc wrote:Is anyone else thinking the same thing I am, which is...WHO CARES??? Do your own thing, do it well, and don't bitch and complain about getting "skipped over" or not getting publicity. This pisses me off more than hearing about stupid baby boomers (and what a dumb-sounding term that is, but I'll save that for another rant...).

I'm a boomer, she's a boomer, wouldn't you like to be a boomer, too?

I'm smack in the middle of boomer territory - born into a "Leave It To Beaver" world where Walter Cronkite's opinion meant everything and now living in a "Seinfeld" world where it's Simon Cowell's opinion that matters! Whadda ride!!!!!!!!!

There's relevance to this article. And I agree with the narcissitic comment of the myspace "look at me"
fame for nothing phenomenon. Kids are discovering rock music by playing Guitar Hero now -- not from the radio or TV. And "Music Television" is nothing of the sort anymore. It is kinda sad. Something indeed has decidedly been lost.

Badcotune wrote:There's relevance to this article. And I agree with the narcissitic comment of the myspace "look at me"
fame for nothing phenomenon. Kids are discovering rock music by playing Guitar Hero now -- not from the radio or TV. And "Music Television" is nothing of the sort anymore. It is kinda sad. Something indeed has decidedly been lost.

Well, if something has been lost perhaps we are on the verge of the next big thing musically, something that we don't even envision right now.

If "nature abhors a vacuum", then something is going to fill that void. Perhaps the art of rock music (or all music, for that matter) is just in-between phases right now.

You can tell I didn't have that Bud Light or I wouldn't be so philosophical!

SteveForever wrote:

Ms_M wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Nora. I absolutely agree with this. We definitely got sandwiched out. And the whole thing about coming out of college to a recession - so true. When I graduated from high school, we were told, "Go to college. Get a degree in ANYTHING. You'll be able to get a job." Ok, I did just that and then couldn't get a job in my field. So many of my friends could tell the same story.

yep, the people that got trade training actually got the better deal

I never finished my degree -- I was lucky to accumulate about two years of college. What I was learning wasn't helping me at all, and I stopped when my career took off thanks to my hands-on experience. I later got certifications to add to the package, but everything that put me where I needed to be was from my own experience. Much of the schooling and certifications were for the most part worthless, though targeted bookwork helped out a great deal.

Rip Rokken wrote:

SteveForever wrote:

Ms_M wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Nora. I absolutely agree with this. We definitely got sandwiched out. And the whole thing about coming out of college to a recession - so true. When I graduated from high school, we were told, "Go to college. Get a degree in ANYTHING. You'll be able to get a job." Ok, I did just that and then couldn't get a job in my field. So many of my friends could tell the same story.

yep, the people that got trade training actually got the better deal

I never finished my degree -- I was lucky to accumulate about two years of college. What I was learning wasn't helping me at all, and I stopped when my career took off thanks to my hands-on experience. I later got certifications to add to the package, but everything that put me where I needed to be was from my own experience. Much of the schooling and certifications were for the most part worthless, though targeted bookwork helped out a great deal.

Exactly my point friend, college is not ALL that~

SteveForever wrote:

Rip Rokken wrote:

SteveForever wrote:

Ms_M wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Nora. I absolutely agree with this. We definitely got sandwiched out. And the whole thing about coming out of college to a recession - so true. When I graduated from high school, we were told, "Go to college. Get a degree in ANYTHING. You'll be able to get a job." Ok, I did just that and then couldn't get a job in my field. So many of my friends could tell the same story.

yep, the people that got trade training actually got the better deal

I never finished my degree -- I was lucky to accumulate about two years of college. What I was learning wasn't helping me at all, and I stopped when my career took off thanks to my hands-on experience. I later got certifications to add to the package, but everything that put me where I needed to be was from my own experience. Much of the schooling and certifications were for the most part worthless, though targeted bookwork helped out a great deal.

Exactly my point friend, college is not ALL that~

Obviously, this depends on your field. I wouldn't want to go see, oh, lets say...a DOCTOR that hadn't had a few years of that silly old "Book learnin'!" A good college education is not just career training. It's LIFE training, and I think to many (not all, but many) it IS essential... especially in today's world.

X factor wrote:

SteveForever wrote:

Rip Rokken wrote:

SteveForever wrote:

Ms_M wrote:Thanks for sharing that, Nora. I absolutely agree with this. We definitely got sandwiched out. And the whole thing about coming out of college to a recession - so true. When I graduated from high school, we were told, "Go to college. Get a degree in ANYTHING. You'll be able to get a job." Ok, I did just that and then couldn't get a job in my field. So many of my friends could tell the same story.

yep, the people that got trade training actually got the better deal

I never finished my degree -- I was lucky to accumulate about two years of college. What I was learning wasn't helping me at all, and I stopped when my career took off thanks to my hands-on experience. I later got certifications to add to the package, but everything that put me where I needed to be was from my own experience. Much of the schooling and certifications were for the most part worthless, though targeted bookwork helped out a great deal.

Exactly my point friend, college is not ALL that~

Obviously, this depends on your field. I wouldn't want to go see, oh, lets say...a DOCTOR that hadn't had a few years of that silly old "Book learnin'!" A good college education is not just career training. It's LIFE training, and I think to many (not all, but many) it IS essential... especially in today's world.

duh, no shit.....

To quote Mr. Gordiner, from his YouTube clip:

"...if the Gen-Xers were like "no, y'know, I'm not into money; I'm just doing it for the Art" - well, the Millennials are the rebellion against THAT. They're completely greedy...so [laughs] they're in it for the money, and they're shameless about it...I suppose each Generation reacts to the one that preceeded it, and the reaction of Gen-Xers was...if you talk to Gen-Xers about the 60s: I mean, I love the Beatles, they're fine; I love the Rolling Stones...but I'm sick of HEARING about them - I'm sick of the "mythology", right? of the Beatles.

'Why is Paul McCartney barefoot on the cover of "Abbey Road?" '

I don't GIVE a FUCK! Just stop TALKing about it, OK?!"

THANK YOU!!!!!