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Was SP's last song with Journey also the worst?

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:51 am
by texafana
"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:52 am
by Michigan Girl
texafana wrote:"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!!


Posted:
Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:57 am
by bluejeangirl76
That song is so bad that it belongs on Generations.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:01 am
by Peartree12249
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:01 am
by G.I.Jim
Michigan Girl wrote:texafana wrote:"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!!

I liked it too. The best two songs on that album (to me anyway), are...
"If He Should Break Your Heart"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIaBODKu ... re=related
And "Message Of Love" (otherwise known as Separate Ways part 2!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT-xNlzsJ9U&feature=fvw
Re: Was SP's last song with Journey also the worst?

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:02 am
by Ehwmatt
IHSBYH is awesome - one of my faves of all time.
Re: Was SP's last song with Journey also the worst?

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:03 am
by annpea
texafana wrote:"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
Who, knows it could have been... It all went to hell in a handbasket after that didn't it?
Re: Was SP's last song with Journey also the worst?

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:07 am
by portland
Michigan Girl wrote:texafana wrote:"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!!

LOON Moment...I like it too


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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:16 am
by Enigma869
bluejeangirl76 wrote:That song is so bad that it belongs on Generations.
Spot on, baby


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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:40 am
by PowerChords
bluejeangirl76 wrote:That song is so bad that it belongs on Generations.
Good one!

Re: Was SP's last song with Journey also the worst?

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:41 am
by Since 78
portland wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:texafana wrote:"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!!

LOON Moment...I like it too

Exactly, I love SP, but that song is awful. Let's hope it wasn't a preview of things to come.

Posted:
Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:35 am
by journey062393
Should have been called, "Baby I'm a Leavin' You.........Off This Album!". Seriously I hate this song so much. And there are a few Journey songs that I don't like, but I would still listen to if I had to. This is one that I cannot stand. This is one hidden track that I wish they would have done a better job hiding!!!

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:48 am
by Duncan
Of course it was a message. It's common knowledge that Perry's pet name for Neal was Baby. Neal's name for Steve was Petal.
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Now playing:
Van Der Graaf Generator - Darkness (11/11)

Posted:
Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:57 am
by youkeepmewaiting
People bitch about this song but it was just a secret track at the end of the album. A track that I have come to enjoy.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:49 am
by artist4perry
i like the song they added later, I can see it in your eyes...........rocky, fun, and energetic. I also loved Message of love and If he should break your heart..........beautiful. Songs will always appeal to some, and not so much to others. Journey always gave a variety of songs, that touched a broad spectrum of tastes. That is why to me, they were so unique.


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Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:24 pm
by ChildInTime
I think Baby I'm-a Leavin' You was supposed to be a joke song. Kind of like how... well, I'm going to use a crappy example from my pre-teen years, but Green Day has a song called F.O.D., and once the song is finished... if you wait for a few more minutes, the drummer sings an intentionally crappy joke song called "All By Myself". I have no idea how I remember that.
I Can See it in Your Eyes, however, is ROCKIN'! I wish I could get it... damn Japan and their cool bonus tracks!! (The only way I can get it is if I buy the whole album on iTunes/Amazon... hate it when they do that.) Message Of Love and If He Should Break Your Heart are other great songs. Trial By Fire suffered from Too Many Ballads Syndrome (T.M.B.S. for short) overall, though.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:00 pm
by steveo777
Hey, that's good song. I like it.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:20 pm
by kgdjpubs
ChildInTime wrote:I think Baby I'm-a Leavin' You was supposed to be a joke song.
I think it was also--it's more common than you think. Also, why it was a hidden track...
As far as worst? Homemade Love or Back Talk, with Can Do right behind (repetitive to the point of making me want to reach for an angle grinder...)

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:28 pm
by Jubilee
kgdjpubs wrote:ChildInTime wrote:I think Baby I'm-a Leavin' You was supposed to be a joke song.
I think it was also--it's more common than you think. Also, why it was a hidden track...
As far as worst?
Homemade Love or Back Talk, with Can Do right behind (repetitive to the point of making me want to reach for an angle grinder...)
Love, love, LOVE that song. I can understand Back Talk & Can Do, but c'mon, Homemade Love?


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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:33 pm
by kgdjpubs
Jubilee wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:ChildInTime wrote:I think Baby I'm-a Leavin' You was supposed to be a joke song.
I think it was also--it's more common than you think. Also, why it was a hidden track...
As far as worst?
Homemade Love or Back Talk, with Can Do right behind (repetitive to the point of making me want to reach for an angle grinder...)
Love, love, LOVE that song. I can understand Back Talk & Can Do, but c'mon, Homemade Love?

Lyrically, one of the worst songwriting attempts I have ever heard. Musically, I guess it's fine, but you have to search far and wide to get poorer lyrics. Sorry...

Posted:
Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:38 pm
by annie89509
As I have mentioned before, I'm a latecomer to the SP/Journey fan-wagon .... bought Infinity to TBF all at once in 2005. Loved TBF the moment I heard it ... all of it, but understand why some consider it a snoozefest because of the predominance of ballads. However, if anyone hasn't bought the re-mastered version which included the previously Japan-only released I Can See it in Your Eyes, you have to run and get this 2006 re-mastered TBF. What a difference ... sonically. I guarantee nobody will think snoozefest again.
A criticism of the original version has been that SP sounded haggard ... croaky. Well, I dunno ... studio magic or what ... his singing has been cleaned up here ... to my ears, anyway. The whole album ... from the instrumentals to the vocals ... is "in your face" crystal clear. And, yes, ICSIIYE really rocks on this album ... whereas before, I only had a crappy bootleg version of this song.
I can't get enough of listening to this album now -- my fav by a mile.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:38 pm
by Jubilee
kgdjpubs wrote:Jubilee wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:ChildInTime wrote:I think Baby I'm-a Leavin' You was supposed to be a joke song.
I think it was also--it's more common than you think. Also, why it was a hidden track...
As far as worst?
Homemade Love or Back Talk, with Can Do right behind (repetitive to the point of making me want to reach for an angle grinder...)
Love, love, LOVE that song. I can understand Back Talk & Can Do, but c'mon, Homemade Love?

Lyrically, one of the worst songwriting attempts I have ever heard. Musically, I guess it's fine, but you have to search far and wide to get poorer lyrics. Sorry...
I really can't argue with you there (and I'm a stickler for lyrics), it's just a fun(ny) little ditty that just cracks me up.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:46 pm
by annie89509
kgdjpubs wrote:Jubilee wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:ChildInTime wrote:I think Baby I'm-a Leavin' You was supposed to be a joke song.
I think it was also--it's more common than you think. Also, why it was a hidden track...
As far as worst?
Homemade Love or Back Talk, with Can Do right behind (repetitive to the point of making me want to reach for an angle grinder...)
Love, love, LOVE that song. I can understand Back Talk & Can Do, but c'mon, Homemade Love?

Lyrically, one of the worst songwriting attempts I have ever heard. Musically, I guess it's fine, but you have to search far and wide to get poorer lyrics. Sorry...
Haha, k-pubs and I think alike. I'm not a prude ... but those lyrics in HL made me cringe. Same with Can Do ... repetitive to death is right. There really isn't a SP-sung I don't like, but those 2 caused me to contemplate ... what could he be thinking of coming up with songs like that?

Re: Was SP's last song with Journey also the worst?

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:02 pm
by Vladan
texafana wrote:"Baby I'm a Leavin' You"
Seriously, was it a message to Neal? This song is horrid in every way.
Honestly, I do not believe Steve Perry as we know him, was ever capable of having a bad song. Seriously, whatever this man touched it turned to gold IMO.

Posted:
Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:02 am
by texafana
Does anyone know if this was actually the last song SP and company wrote together? Just curious.
About this song:

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Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:28 am
by 4ever4Steve
"Baby I'm a leavin' you". I don't understand how the "so-called" perfectionist SP could have ever let that be released! He sounds like a 75 year old croaky frog here, joke or no joke. The vocal ranks with the DSB at the White Sox game. It is truly horrid and even in '96 it should have been deep sixed!
Anne
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Posted:
Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:30 am
by Eric
Its their worst song...its a piece of shit.....its worse than All the Way

Posted:
Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:41 am
by JasonD
Isn't that an old Sam Cooke song? Lora? Cyndy? What's the story here?
I personally like the song but it's definitely not your traditional Journey music.

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Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:43 am
by Ehwmatt
It's nowhere near as bad as turds like Can Do, Opened the Door, Gone Crazy, Lovin Touchin Squeezin, Back Talk, Dead or Alive, Lay It Down, or Keep On Runnin, for starters..

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Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:58 am
by Rick