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why do a lot of people knock "Generations?" I feel like I've discovered another freakin' Journey gem in "Knowing That You Love Me." I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Neal's guitar is stunning on this tune (except Neal darling could you please dial back the doodle-doodle-doodle's of notes near the end, lol?). I love SA's voice on this song. I even let myself imagine SP singing this tune something I usually don't do--I know I'm nobody but to me this is like an SP-quality knockout song even though I love SA's emotion on it... I've always liked "Gone Crazy" and "Faith In The Heartland" is on here, too. This song just popped up today on my IPod while I was doing some chores and it kind of took my breath away...

It's embarrassing to admit that I've only given a really thorough listen to only 3 songs on this album. I am going to give an earnest listen to all of it all day tomorrow.

DAMN, you are fast. I just posted this, went to take a look at the top forum, saw the "worst album" thread and thought oh no Generations is going to be on this list. Bingo, 2 posts down, lol. Sorry Dan it does not blow rhino cock.

fredinator wrote:why do a lot of people knock "Generations?

Because it sucks rhino cock.

I really liked the cd. Showed the band was willing to try to be different from what they had done in the past. Production was better than RED 13, but not has good as Arrival. SOngs were good too. Seems a lot of people were upset by all the different singers, and not enough songs in the typical Journey mode.

I think there are a couple gems on that album, but with all the guys doing vocals, it wasn't a typical Journey album. And, some a couple of the song titles... I mean, Butterfly (She Flies Alone). After listening to it a lot of times, and knowing it is an Augeri penned song, it isn't as horrible as I used to think it was. I think when everyone sees Butterfly they are like, "Wow, what a gay sounding title." Like Arnel, and it may just be the pussified production on Revelation, but I will take Augeri's FITH anyday over the other version. I like the rawer production than the more polished Revelation production.

Not a ballad guy at all, but as impartial observer KTYLM is pure class. What a song, with a tinge of a tiny bit of blues.

One of the top 3 lead vocals Augeri ever laid down as well (along w/ FITH and TPIYH).

When I went to the first of the three Generations shows I attended, I heard FITH, Out of Harm's Way, and maybe Place In Your Heart and I couldn't wait to listen to the album. Then I got home and popped it in the next morning and I couldn't believe it. It sounded like it had been produced in a toilet! I had friends in high school doing home recording who were making far better sounding songs all by themselves in their basement. I could never quite get past that on Generations.

With that said, there are certainly a few great songs on there: Faith In the Heartland, Place in Your Heart, Out of Harm's Way, Beyond the Clouds, and Never Too Late are all strong additions to the Journey catalogue. A Better Life gets an honorable mention, as well.

Matt did you ever fork out for the retail release on Sanctuary? It's at Best Buy, Walmart and FYE and is, I feel a decent sonic pickup over the concert version (which I also have).

Red13JoePa wrote:Matt did you ever fork out for the retail release on Sanctuary? It's at Best Buy, Walmart and FYE and is, I feel a decent sonic pickup over the concert version (which I also have).

I definitely did in that very hope. I have never A/B'd them, but I think it is indeed a bit better, but still no great shakes. I'm 99% sure that's the version I have ripped on my iTunes.

fredinator wrote: I feel like I've discovered another freakin' Journey gem in "Knowing That You Love Me." I think it's absolutely gorgeous.

Best Augeri-era ballad, hands down. That song is absolutely great and should be revived by the band. Seriously great tune.


I also like Generations and don't mind Butterfly or the other one that people gripe about (which reminds me of The Beatles "I've Got a Feeling" a bit".

The only song on it I didn't 'get' was Ross's tune and I think there was a Jon Cain bonus track that I also didn't dig. The rest was fine. Not the best Journey album, but certainly not crap.
Neal's "In Self Defense" is also a favorite. Love that guitar riff.

Saint John wrote:

fredinator wrote:why do a lot of people knock "Generations?

Because it sucks rhino cock.

Two words: "Gone Crazy"

Dear Journey,

Re: "Gone Crazy": What the HELL?

Thanks, xoxo

Bjg

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Saint John wrote:

fredinator wrote:why do a lot of people knock "Generations?

Because it sucks rhino cock.

Two words: "Gone Crazy"

Dear Journey,

Re: "Gone Crazy": What the HELL?

Thanks, xoxo

Bjg

It's ONE song folks. ONE song does not an album make. If that were the case... well, I'd take Gone Crazy over Baby I'm a Leavin' You any day of the week.

brywool wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Saint John wrote:

fredinator wrote:why do a lot of people knock "Generations?

Because it sucks rhino cock.

Two words: "Gone Crazy"

Dear Journey,

Re: "Gone Crazy": What the HELL?

Thanks, xoxo

Bjg

It's ONE song folks. ONE song does not an album make. If that were the case... well, I'd take Gone Crazy over Baby I'm a Leavin' You any day of the week.

Yep, Perry does Reggae. Worst Journey song ever!

Since 78 wrote:

brywool wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Saint John wrote:

fredinator wrote:why do a lot of people knock "Generations?

Because it sucks rhino cock.

Two words: "Gone Crazy"

Dear Journey,

Re: "Gone Crazy": What the HELL?

Thanks, xoxo

Bjg

It's ONE song folks. ONE song does not an album make. If that were the case... well, I'd take Gone Crazy over Baby I'm a Leavin' You any day of the week.

Yep, Perry does Reggae. Worst Journey song ever!

Horrible. I agree. There's no Journey in that song.

Jana wrote:

Since 78 wrote:

brywool wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Saint John wrote:

fredinator wrote:why do a lot of people knock "Generations?

Because it sucks rhino cock.

Two words: "Gone Crazy"

Dear Journey,

Re: "Gone Crazy": What the HELL?

Thanks, xoxo

Bjg

It's ONE song folks. ONE song does not an album make. If that were the case... well, I'd take Gone Crazy over Baby I'm a Leavin' You any day of the week.

Yep, Perry does Reggae. Worst Journey song ever!

Horrible. I agree. There's no Journey in that song.

It's still a good song to play for a potential ex.

fredinator wrote: "Knowing That You Love Me." I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Neal's guitar is stunning on this tune

I think so too. I really like that song.

Baby I'm Leavin' You...great song!!
Didn't belong on this disc, but I love it!!

I guess I'll repeat this sentiment as many times as you guys want to
repeat ^^^^^yours

Michigan Girl wrote:Baby I'm Leavin' You...great song!!
Didn't belong on this disc, but I love it!!

I guess I'll repeat this sentiment as many times as you guys want to
repeat ^^^^^yours

It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!

Since 78 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:Baby I'm Leavin' You...great song!!
Didn't belong on this disc, but I love it!!

I guess I'll repeat this sentiment as many times as you guys want to
repeat ^^^^^yours

It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!

no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!

Chubby321 wrote:

fredinator wrote: "Knowing That You Love Me." I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Neal's guitar is stunning on this tune

I think so too. I really like that song.

The song bores me. It doesn't really ever take off for me.

portland wrote:

Since 78 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:Baby I'm Leavin' You...great song!!
Didn't belong on this disc, but I love it!!

I guess I'll repeat this sentiment as many times as you guys want to
repeat ^^^^^yours

It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!

no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!

You're right. It doesn't just suck. It sucks big time.

Jana wrote:

Chubby321 wrote:

fredinator wrote: "Knowing That You Love Me." I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Neal's guitar is stunning on this tune

I think so too. I really like that song.

The song bores me. It doesn't really ever take off for me.

And yet somehow "somebody" saw fit to put it on "The Essential Journey."

I like the CD a lot. I like most of the songs on there. its very different from their standard stuff, more rock and different chord progressions and even different chord voicings. very guitar oriented. and i think its cool how everyone got to sing, especially gone crazy, which is one of my favorites

so to the OP, I dont get it either. the only things i have heard against it are
1. the recording quality is bad ( even though its better than the over-compressed Revelation, i prefer the raw sound),
2.people don't like the other guys singing, which one would think " ok, skip over those 3 songs", or listen to them so you can actually hear what the members of journey sound like, cuz you certainly cant tell from backing vocals!
3. people making empty claims like " it sucks" or "i dont like it", but no reasons why.

Red13JoePa wrote:

Jana wrote:

Chubby321 wrote:

fredinator wrote: "Knowing That You Love Me." I think it's absolutely gorgeous. Neal's guitar is stunning on this tune

I think so too. I really like that song.

The song bores me. It doesn't really ever take off for me.

And yet somehow "somebody" saw fit to put it on "The Essential Journey."

Are we talking abut the same song? I was talking about KTYLM. Do you mean Baby I'm a-leaving you? If so, What in the world was he thinking? WCTNGOF should have been there instead.

And I was probably a little harsh on KTYLM. It's a nice song to play in the background and beautiful vocals and Neal is really great. But the chorus You lift me up, seems unoriginal, like other songs I've heard. But I have to say Augeri is brilliant on the whole ending of the song, which makes it for me.

LMAO no, I though we were talking about BILY.
As you saw from the dog beating post I am off my game today!

Red13JoePa wrote:LMAO no, I though we were talking about BILY.
As you saw from the dog beating post I am off my game today!

Do you really like that song? I think whoever put it on Essential Journey should be beaten!

Since 78 wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:LMAO no, I though we were talking about BILY.
As you saw from the dog beating post I am off my game today!

Do you really like that song? I think whoever put it on Essential Journey should be beaten!

Hmmmm... now who would be behind that track seletion??

Jana wrote:

portland wrote:

Since 78 wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:Baby I'm Leavin' You...great song!!
Didn't belong on this disc, but I love it!!

I guess I'll repeat this sentiment as many times as you guys want to
repeat ^^^^^yours

It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!
It Sucks!

no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!
no it does not!

You're right. It doesn't just suck. It sucks big time.

Good Afternoon Jana

Since 78 wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:LMAO no, I though we were talking about BILY.
As you saw from the dog beating post I am off my game today!

Do you really like that song? I think whoever put it on Essential Journey should be beaten!

I do agree that WCTNGOF should have been there instead. BILY is a fun song..but it is not Essential Journey.

See I can be agreeable

Since 78 wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:LMAO no, I though we were talking about BILY.
As you saw from the dog beating post I am off my game today!

Do you really like that song? I think whoever put it on Essential Journey should be beaten!

He does, too. Nobody understands what anybody is saying today.

Jana wrote:

Since 78 wrote:

Red13JoePa wrote:LMAO no, I though we were talking about BILY.
As you saw from the dog beating post I am off my game today!

Do you really like that song? I think whoever put it on Essential Journey should be beaten!

He does, too. Nobody understands what anybody is saying today.

I am smart, though.
And I can read...trust me. Well, you'll have to based on today's output