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Some of you have written some fantastic reviews on this forum. It would be great if you copied your review and pasted them into Amazon and Walmart.

No need, the plokkers will load them up with a ton of perfect score reviews before you know it. They did it with Revelation before the album even came out.
By the way, here in the States Wal-Mart is the ONLY distributor.

Don wrote:No need, the plokkers will load them up with a ton of perfect score reviews before you know it. They did it with Revelation before the album even came out
By the way, here in the States Wal-Mart is the ONLY distributor.

Yeah, but the reviews here are actually very good! By the way, Amazon is selling it in the US too for a very high price. Not sure if its released though. You can still put a review at Amazon UK which is selling it as well.

Majestic wrote:

Don wrote:No need, the plokkers will load them up with a ton of perfect score reviews before you know it. They did it with Revelation before the album even came out
By the way, here in the States Wal-Mart is the ONLY distributor.

Yeah, but the reviews here are actually very good! By the way, Amazon is selling it in the US too for a very high price. Not sure if its released though. You can still put a review at Amazon UK which is selling it as well.

That would be because they are selling the import version as a grey product. Target did the same thing when Revelation came out.

Listening to Eclipse for the first time. HUGE Journey fan.

The only thing I can say so far is damn, I miss Mike Stone. The guy knew how to take Journey songs to the next level. Kevin Shirley doesn't have a clue. The guy has no idea how to produce/structure a song to take advantage of emotion or build momentum. I've read on here folks complaining about the thin drum sound and they're exactly right. And where the hell is the bass? IMO, Journey will always be mediocre as long as Shirley is at the helm. I thought the production was much, much better on Revelation (unfortunately, that one was a Revelation, now it's back to the same schlock).

One of the things that separates Journey from other bands are the great choruses with layers of vocals. Totally void on this album. somewhat understandable with the direction of this album, but hell, even the pre-Perry stuff had great choruses.

For years, I've wanted Schon to take control of the band back. I'm a big fan of the pre-Perry era, as well as Abraxas Pool and all of the Perry stuff through Raised On Radio. Unfortunately, this one falls way short for me. So far, I find the songs horribly generic. Thank God though, this one is absent the usual Cain cheese (I take that back, just got to "To Whom It May Concern" and "Someone")!! Revelation was a bizarre mix of a couple incredible tracks, some horribly cheesy tracks, and some that were enjoyable but somewhat forgettable. For me, there isn't anything on Eclipse that I would say is over the top great for me. On first listen, only "She's A Mystery" really stands out.

IMHO, while the rocking is a welcome change, I'm not much more impressed with this album than I was with any of the Augeri releases. That's not to say it's bad, but to compare this album to anything Journey put out in the Perry era (and I'm not a Perry fan at all) is a serious, serious stretch.

That said, as a Journey fan, I'll be at Wal-Mart on Tuesday to get it.

At best, I'd give Eclipse a 5/10. To put it in perspective, Revelation would've been a 7/10.

KISSNTIME wrote:Listening to Eclipse for the first time. HUGE Journey fan.

The only thing I can say so far is damn, I miss Mike Stone. The guy knew how to take Journey songs to the next level. Kevin Shirley doesn't have a clue. The guy has no idea how to produce/structure a song to take advantage of emotion or build momentum. I've read on here folks complaining about the thin drum sound and they're exactly right. And where the hell is the bass? IMO, Journey will always be mediocre as long as Shirley is at the helm. I thought the production was much, much better on Revelation (unfortunately, that one was a Revelation, now it's back to the same schlock).

One of the things that separates Journey from other bands are the great choruses with layers of vocals. Totally void on this album. somewhat understandable with the direction of this album, but hell, even the pre-Perry stuff had great choruses.

For years, I've wanted Schon to take control of the band back. I'm a big fan of the pre-Perry era, as well as Abraxas Pool and all of the Perry stuff through Raised On Radio. Unfortunately, this one falls way short for me. So far, I find the songs horribly generic. Thank God though, this one is absent the usual Cain cheese (I take that back, just got to "To Whom It May Concern" and "Someone")!! Revelation was a bizarre mix of a couple incredible tracks, some horribly cheesy tracks, and some that were enjoyable but somewhat forgettable. For me, there isn't anything on Eclipse that I would say is over the top great for me. On first listen, only "She's A Mystery" really stands out.

IMHO, while the rocking is a welcome change, I'm not much more impressed with this album than I was with any of the Augeri releases. That's not to say it's bad, but to compare this album to anything Journey put out in the Perry era (and I'm not a Perry fan at all) is a serious, serious stretch.

That said, as a Journey fan, I'll be at Wal-Mart on Tuesday to get it.

At best, I'd give Eclipse a 5/10. To put it in perspective, Revelation would've been a 7/10.

5/10, errrr that sounds just about right.
At the moment, for me it ranks slightly better than the (almost) abomination that was 'Generations'.

Agreed but at least Generations had some life to it! While way low on the scale of Journey records, there was some freshness to it and a few really decent songs. It seemed like an album where the guys weren't taking themselves too seriously and were having a good time. Also cool that they all took turns on vox.

Both of you have lost your fucking minds. That's just an opinion.

Seriously though, I respect your opinions, but I don't know how you can not love this record. Basically, it's Journey being led by Schon, taking a chance, and I think it was a chance very well taken.

I'm tipping my hat to Neal for this one. It's going to procure a spot way high on my list of favorites they have released.

I'm loving all of the reviews, both positive and negative. Thanks to all that have weighed in. I will have mine up by tomorrow night ... I hope.

Lights go down...crowd roaring...spotlight on the drums...Deen starts pounding the intro to Human Feel...they rock out that tune then go right into Sep Ways......place will be in the palms of their hands after that....

Maui Tom wrote:Lights go down...crowd roaring...spotlight on the drums...Deen starts pounding the intro to Human Feel...they rock out that tune then go right into Sep Ways......place will be in the palms of their hands after that....

Manchester ... A little over 2 weeks ... front row in a big-ass arena ... I'll let you know ...

Maui Tom wrote:Lights go down...crowd roaring...spotlight on the drums...Deen starts pounding the intro to Human Feel...they rock out that tune then go right into Sep Ways......place will be in the palms of their hands after that....

Tron Legacy, I'm telling you. Human Feel would have been perfect in that film.

DrFU wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Lights go down...crowd roaring...spotlight on the drums...Deen starts pounding the intro to Human Feel...they rock out that tune then go right into Sep Ways......place will be in the palms of their hands after that....

Manchester ... A little over 2 weeks ... front row in a big-ass arena ... I'll let you know ...

Are there still tickets left?

Rip Rokken wrote:

DrFU wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Lights go down...crowd roaring...spotlight on the drums...Deen starts pounding the intro to Human Feel...they rock out that tune then go right into Sep Ways......place will be in the palms of their hands after that....

Manchester ... A little over 2 weeks ... front row in a big-ass arena ... I'll let you know ...

Are there still tickets left?

Nosebleed or Scalpers ... and Barb may still have a couple.

And Download starts 2 days later ...