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I'll give my review later but I just gotta say I totally dig the show. But whoever did the sound for Journey must be fired pronto. He almost ruined it for me. There were portions during the show that I couldn't even hear AP. BTW, Deen's solo drumming was wicked!!! I love it.

Oops, sorry about the typo! I missed that.

How did the Knight Rangers sound?

Knight Rangers? Say good night....

BeautifulJbaby wrote:I'll give my review later but I just gotta say I totally dig the show. But whoever did the sound for Journey must be fired pronto. He almost ruined it for me. There were portions during the show that I couldn't even hear AP. BTW, Deen's solo drumming was wicked!!! I love it.

There were two spots where Arnel was singing (improv'ing) and his mic was off. The sound guy definitely missed those. From where I was seated (about 12 rows back) the sound was pretty good actually. Arnel sounded great. But concert sound can be like that- good in one area, not so good in another.

Knight Rangers- sorry, but that right there is funny.

Maybe this'll help:


By the way, Droid's take crap photos!

Regarding Deen's solo, it was cool the way he used parts of Steve Smith's "Captured" solo. Nice tip of the hat... I wonder if he'll get the "Oh, he's just trying to sound like Steve" comments...

Maui Tom wrote:Knight Rangers? Say good night....

That's Hassellhoff's new band right?

Andrew wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Knight Rangers? Say good night....

That's Hassellhoff's new band right?

Damn time flies,my last post here was over 8 years ago!

I thought the concert was excellent and that all 3 bands were awesome!My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints.In fact Arnel sounded awesome and Neal Schon was on fire!I loved all the extra guitar playing and the setlist was good too and was suprised they played "Resonate" which made my night!

All in all the wife and I had a great night and it was so cool to see after the concert over a hundred fans singing "don't stop believing" under the streetlights!

Cheers

Akman wrote:Damn time flies,my last post here was over 8 years ago!

I thought the concert was excellent and that all 3 bands were awesome!My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints.In fact Arnel sounded awesome and Neal Schon was on fire!I loved all the extra guitar playing and the setlist was good too and was suprised they played "Resonate" which made my night!

All in all the wife and I had a great night and it was so cool to see after the concert over a hundred fans singing "don't stop believing" under the streetlights!

Cheers

Wow, welcome back. Glad you had a good time. Just to let you know, since your last visit, I run this joint now.

Andrew wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Knight Rangers? Say good night....

That's Hassellhoff's new band right?

Switched on the BBC last night and there was the Hoff ... in a sequined jacket with an acoustic guitar warbling something terrible ... couldn't find the remote fast enough.

Forget Journey, The Beatles, Led Zep, AC/DC...

EVERYONE knows that the true king of Rock
Is the HOFF.

I mean... DUH.

Akman wrote:Damn time flies,my last post here was over 8 years ago!

I thought the concert was excellent and that all 3 bands were awesome!My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints.In fact Arnel sounded awesome and Neal Schon was on fire!I loved all the extra guitar playing and the setlist was good too and was suprised they played "Resonate" which made my night!

All in all the wife and I had a great night and it was so cool to see after the concert over a hundred fans singing "don't stop believing" under the streetlights!

Cheers

The only time I had trouble hearing Arnel was in the verses of Resonate. Those verses are really low vocally. He sang it fine, but he could've been brought up in the mix on the verses. Everything else sounded fine to me, but it does depend on where you're sitting. Neal had one long solo, then did one before Wheel In The Sky that wasn't as long- and yeah, the harmonica deal was there. I think that harmonica deal was okay, but they should've added a bit of dirt to the harmonica mic to give it more of a growl.

Maui Tom wrote:Knight Rangers? Say good night....

BeautifulJbaby wrote:Oops, sorry about the typo! I missed that.

Haha... Strike 2!!! Try again?

The new sound guy is awful. State-of-the-art my ass. Elson had his off-nights, but nothing like this. To Arnel's credit, his powerful voice manages to soar over the muddy compressed mix. Neal is making a fool of himself, playing sweeping solos that nobody can even hear.

Did someone say 'Resonate'?

BeautifulJbaby wrote:I'll give my review later but I just gotta say I totally dig the show. But whoever did the sound for Journey must be fired pronto. He almost ruined it for me. There were portions during the show that I couldn't even hear AP. BTW, Deen's solo drumming was wicked!!! I love it.

Oops, sorry about the typo! I missed that.

You might not know your TV shows or baseball, but you're spot on with
the sound ...AP was drowned out most of the show I attended~ MOST!!
And everything I did hear was a horrible mess of mixed~up sound!!
'sup with that?!? I am very sorry to hear that they did not correct
this for their final big show ...sad ...mad ...
totally pissed off !!

In re: to the sound guy, the band was not oblivious to
the sound and even if they were deaf, they've read
somewhere that fans were complaining about
the sound.

Wasn't "Resonate" a title of an REM song...rather recent one too I think.

Hmmm...

Michigan Girl wrote:

BeautifulJbaby wrote:I'll give my review later but I just gotta say I totally dig the show. But whoever did the sound for Journey must be fired pronto. He almost ruined it for me. There were portions during the show that I couldn't even hear AP. BTW, Deen's solo drumming was wicked!!! I love it.

Oops, sorry about the typo! I missed that.

You might not know your TV shows or baseball, but you're spot on with
the sound ...AP was drowned out most of the show I attended~ MOST!!
And everything I did hear was a horrible mess of mixed~up sound!!
'sup with that?!? I am very sorry to hear that they did not correct
this for their final big show ...sad ...mad ...
totally pissed off !!

MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena. Hey, BeautifulJbaby, where were you sitting? Check the photo above of Knight Rangers (sorry, that's funny to me). That's where I was at. AP was down in the mix ONLY on "Resonate" but those verses are super quiet, so I understand how it could happen. I was actually waiting for the "terrible" sound that I'd heard people lamenting. I've heard bands that sounded way worse for sure. From my seat, it was actually pretty good. I thought Foreigner might've been louder, but louder doesn't equal better to me, but all three bands sounded good. I also didn't see "people bailing for the exits" as I had read previously. I took a photo of the arena during the last song and I didn't see any empty seats (it was a sellout I believe).

brywool wrote:MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena.

I thought that too, that's why we moved three times from the time Journey
took the stage until we finally walked out ...Foreigner and NR were fabulous on the floor.
We moved to the next section further back center, still bad ... moved to the section
right of the stage even further back ...worse!! Then I wondered why Journey was the
only band, of three, with constant sound complaints from fans at every venue?!?!
Doesn't add up to me ...not my ears!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena.

I thought that too, that's why we moved three times from the time Journey
took the stage until we finally walked out ...Foreigner and NR were fabulous on the floor.
We moved to the next section further back center, still bad ... moved to the section
right of the stage even further back ...worse!! Then I wondered why Journey was the
only band, of three, with constant sound complaints from fans at every venue?!?!
Doesn't add up to me ...not my ears!!

I can only relate my experience from the other night and my experience was the sound was decent. If you look above, someone else shared that sentiment as well. I DO know the difference between good and bad sound, I've worked with live sound for about 32 years now. I'm sure there were shows where the sound sucked- the evidence on that is overwhelmingly obvious from this tour. I'm just saying at the Seattle show, where I was sitting, it was good.

brywool wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena.

I thought that too, that's why we moved three times from the time Journey
took the stage until we finally walked out ...Foreigner and NR were fabulous on the floor.
We moved to the next section further back center, still bad ... moved to the section
right of the stage even further back ...worse!! Then I wondered why Journey was the
only band, of three, with constant sound complaints from fans at every venue?!?!
Doesn't add up to me ...not my ears!!

I can only relate my experience from the other night and my experience was the sound was decent. If you look above, someone else shared that sentiment as well. I DO know the difference between good and bad sound, I've worked with live sound for about 32 years now. I'm sure there were shows where the sound sucked- the evidence on that is overwhelmingly obvious from this tour. I'm just saying at the Seattle show, where I was sitting, it was good.

akman wrote: My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints

I saw that
two peeps from the same family heard it differently and I'm willing to bet
they sat next to one another ...I'm sure your hearing is very in tune w/the music, as is mine.
I'm very happy that you had a good show experience!!

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena.

I thought that too, that's why we moved three times from the time Journey
took the stage until we finally walked out ...Foreigner and NR were fabulous on the floor.
We moved to the next section further back center, still bad ... moved to the section
right of the stage even further back ...worse!! Then I wondered why Journey was the
only band, of three, with constant sound complaints from fans at every venue?!?!
Doesn't add up to me ...not my ears!!

I can only relate my experience from the other night and my experience was the sound was decent. If you look above, someone else shared that sentiment as well. I DO know the difference between good and bad sound, I've worked with live sound for about 32 years now. I'm sure there were shows where the sound sucked- the evidence on that is overwhelmingly obvious from this tour. I'm just saying at the Seattle show, where I was sitting, it was good.

akman wrote: My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints

I saw that
two peeps from the same family heard it differently and I'm willing to bet
they sat next to one another ...I'm sure your hearing is very in tune w/the music, as is mine.
I'm very happy that you had a good show experience!!

Yeah, I wasn't at the show you saw, so...
Down on the floor the other night, I saw one couple leave. They were Night Ranger Fans and they left during Foreinger I think. Everybody else seemed to have a good show experience. I was glad as this couple were the only people in the arena that were 8 feet tall and they were right in front of us. Seriously, the guy and girl had to be 6'5".

brywool wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena.

I thought that too, that's why we moved three times from the time Journey
took the stage until we finally walked out ...Foreigner and NR were fabulous on the floor.
We moved to the next section further back center, still bad ... moved to the section
right of the stage even further back ...worse!! Then I wondered why Journey was the
only band, of three, with constant sound complaints from fans at every venue?!?!
Doesn't add up to me ...not my ears!!

I can only relate my experience from the other night and my experience was the sound was decent. If you look above, someone else shared that sentiment as well. I DO know the difference between good and bad sound, I've worked with live sound for about 32 years now. I'm sure there were shows where the sound sucked- the evidence on that is overwhelmingly obvious from this tour. I'm just saying at the Seattle show, where I was sitting, it was good.

akman wrote: My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints

I saw that
two peeps from the same family heard it differently and I'm willing to bet
they sat next to one another ...I'm sure your hearing is very in tune w/the music, as is mine.
I'm very happy that you had a good show experience!!

Yeah, I wasn't at the show you saw, so...
Down on the floor the other night, I saw one couple leave. They were Night Ranger Fans and they left during Foreinger I think. Everybody else seemed to have a good show experience. I was glad as this couple were the only people in the arena that were 8 feet tall and they were right in front of us. Seriously, the guy and girl had to be 6'5".

I was out and up at the Hollywood bowl. The sound, while not as stellar as 2008 wasn't that bad from where I was seated. I didn't see anyone leave and for the most part, everyone stayed on their feet.

brywool wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:

brywool wrote:MG, the sound wasn't bad where I was sitting. I think it does depend on where you were sitting in the arena.

I thought that too, that's why we moved three times from the time Journey
took the stage until we finally walked out ...Foreigner and NR were fabulous on the floor.
We moved to the next section further back center, still bad ... moved to the section
right of the stage even further back ...worse!! Then I wondered why Journey was the
only band, of three, with constant sound complaints from fans at every venue?!?!
Doesn't add up to me ...not my ears!!

I can only relate my experience from the other night and my experience was the sound was decent. If you look above, someone else shared that sentiment as well. I DO know the difference between good and bad sound, I've worked with live sound for about 32 years now. I'm sure there were shows where the sound sucked- the evidence on that is overwhelmingly obvious from this tour. I'm just saying at the Seattle show, where I was sitting, it was good.

Sitting? You were sitting? What the hells wrong with you people?!

Deb wrote:

Sitting? You were sitting? What the hells wrong with you people?!

Actually Deb, the only time I sat was during Jon's keyboard solo. This includes Night Ranger, and what part of Foreigner I saw- I was busy during the first part of their set.

Tomulator wrote:

Maui Tom wrote:Knight Rangers? Say good night....

Sorry I was born in the mid-80's so am not familiar.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The new sound guy is awful. State-of-the-art my ass. Elson had his off-nights, but nothing like this. To Arnel's credit, his powerful voice manages to soar over the muddy compressed mix. Neal is making a fool of himself, playing sweeping solos that nobody can even hear.

Totally agree. Arnel did a super awesome job that night and with that I gave him the props. BTW, the woman I seated beside with commented that she and her husband wouldn't mind paying extra dough to see them infront had it been Steve Perry singing even though she'll be so disgusted looking at Neal's wide nostrils. I would have said something to Arnel's defense but didn't mind because of her comment about Neal's nostrils, which I think is true. From my viewpoint you can see China from there.

I was seated in 201 aisle 26 and it's up right up there in the nose bleed section.

Rick wrote:

Akman wrote:Damn time flies,my last post here was over 8 years ago!

I thought the concert was excellent and that all 3 bands were awesome!My wife also had problems hearing Arnel and complained that the guitars were drowning him out but I thought everything was fine and had no complaints.In fact Arnel sounded awesome and Neal Schon was on fire!I loved all the extra guitar playing and the setlist was good too and was suprised they played "Resonate" which made my night!

All in all the wife and I had a great night and it was so cool to see after the concert over a hundred fans singing "don't stop believing" under the streetlights!

Cheers

Wow, welcome back. Glad you had a good time. Just to let you know, since your last visit, I run this joint now.

LOL that was funny

BeautifulJbaby wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The new sound guy is awful. State-of-the-art my ass. Elson had his off-nights, but nothing like this. To Arnel's credit, his powerful voice manages to soar over the muddy compressed mix. Neal is making a fool of himself, playing sweeping solos that nobody can even hear.

Totally agree. Arnel did a super awesome job that night and with that I gave him the props. BTW, the woman I seated beside with commented that she and her husband wouldn't mind paying extra dough to see them infront had it been Steve Perry singing even though she'll be so disgusted looking at Neal's wide nostrils. I would have said something to Arnel's defense but didn't mind because of her comment about Neal's nostrils, which I think is true. From my viewpoint you can see China from there.

I was seated in 201 aisle 26 and it's up right up there in the nose bleed section.

The woman I was seated next to was SO HOT! My wife...
but on the other side of me, this lady kept going on and on and on about Arnel. I don't think she'd ever been to a show before.

The nostrils comment was funny.

Rip Rokken wrote:How did the Knight Rangers sound?

Prolly just as good as "Dorkken".....

slucero wrote:

Rip Rokken wrote:How did the Knight Rangers sound?

Prolly just as good as "Dorkken".....