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Hi,
I was on YouTube listening to Hugo sing some original stuff and evolution. The guy is a great singer. Why so many haters?!

I like his music, but many just think he is an SP wannabe. The fact he looks similar and that he was the lead singer in a Journey tribute band probably didn't help his cause either

Not gonna comment on his original material (tho I did almost buy The Dream cd he did with Ramos), but the Journey covers I've seen are very weak. He may have the nasality of Perry, but not the range and certainly not the power.

He does have lighter timbre, less power if you will, but the Journey covers I heard weren't lacking range. Maybe I need to go back and listen again. I listened to more of the original stuff than the covers. The original stuff isn't fabulous songwriting, but I do like his voice. You -should- comment on the originals.

Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

Aaron wrote:Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

Had you read my post from the beginning, you would've read that I like Hugo's music. In fact, I own three of the albums you listed and enjoyed them all. I only referred to the cliche comments on Hugo, as an explanation to the gent's question about hatred aimed towards the man. That's all. Calm down.

Navarro wrote:Hi,
I was on YouTube listening to Hugo sing some original stuff and evolution. The guy is a great singer. Why so many haters?!

I'd have to go out and by Bose Speakers, nevertheless a surround sound system and crank that son of a bitch up to its max to even hear Hugo belt it out. He's good, but not my cup of tea.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Not gonna comment on his original material (tho I did almost buy The Dream cd he did with Ramos), but the Journey covers I've seen are very weak. He may have the nasality of Perry, but not the range and certainly not the power.

The best cd for me was the original Hugo album (or basically the 3rd Valentine cd). The others had their moments, but that one cd was better than some of the cds Journey released for me. Wasn't impressed at all with the Ramos/Hugo cd. Really weak songwriting on that one.

His voice works on the original material, but it fails when you compare him to the depth of Perry's voice at the same range on the Journey material. He's got the range though. His stage presence is a bit freaky also. Probably too many years of consciously trying to copy Perry, and the physical resemblance makes for a strange combination.

Yes I read your entire 36 word post. However, I was not responding to it dumbass. I was responding to the original post by Navarro. Thanks for your input.

KingdomOfMan wrote:

Aaron wrote:Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

Had you read my post from the beginning, you would've read that I like Hugo's music. In fact, I own three of the albums you listed and enjoyed them all. I only referred to the cliche comments on Hugo, as an explanation to the gent's question about hatred aimed towards the man. That's all. Calm down.

Aaron wrote:Yes I read your entire 36 word post. However, I was not responding to it dumbass. I was responding to the original post by Navarro. Thanks for your input.

KingdomOfMan wrote:

Aaron wrote:Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

Had you read my post from the beginning, you would've read that I like Hugo's music. In fact, I own three of the albums you listed and enjoyed them all. I only referred to the cliche comments on Hugo, as an explanation to the gent's question about hatred aimed towards the man. That's all. Calm down.

Aaron, quit being a dick.....infact, go to your room! LOL

Aaron wrote:Yes I read your entire 36 word post. However, I was not responding to it dumbass. I was responding to the original post by Navarro. Thanks for your input.

KingdomOfMan wrote:

Aaron wrote:Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

Had you read my post from the beginning, you would've read that I like Hugo's music. In fact, I own three of the albums you listed and enjoyed them all. I only referred to the cliche comments on Hugo, as an explanation to the gent's question about hatred aimed towards the man. That's all. Calm down.

If you make references to two comments that I made (the lookalike and tribute band factors), I have every right to believe that you are referring to my statement. Don't condescend me, prick.

Navarro wrote:Hi,
I was on YouTube listening to Hugo sing some original stuff and evolution. The guy is a great singer. Why so many haters?!

Because most of the people here are in there 40's or older and when that happens you have to bitch and complain about everything

Just calm down ....

KingdomOfMan wrote:

Aaron wrote:Yes I read your entire 36 word post. However, I was not responding to it dumbass. I was responding to the original post by Navarro. Thanks for your input.

KingdomOfMan wrote:

Aaron wrote:Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

Had you read my post from the beginning, you would've read that I like Hugo's music. In fact, I own three of the albums you listed and enjoyed them all. I only referred to the cliche comments on Hugo, as an explanation to the gent's question about hatred aimed towards the man. That's all. Calm down.

If you make references to two comments that I made (the lookalike and tribute band factors), I have every right to believe that you are referring to my statement. Don't condescend me, prick.

I stuck by Journey through the Augeri years and learned to accept and enjoy an Augeri fronted Journey, even though Augeri, who I thought was a really great guy and a good perfomer with a decent voice, was never really up to the task of singing Journey music. If Hugo sang for Journey, that would be too much for me and I couldn't support the band anymore, Schon or not. It's weird for me when Hugo keeps popping up by fans of Steve Perry because they are as different vocally as Fiat and Ferrari.

http://www.voyageband.com/hugo.html

http://www.myspace.com/valentineofficialband

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKyDX0GZk-o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpVd3v8pZgA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBaIENJ92QU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKyDX0GZ ... 08D5DB7596

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JbSDhDR ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd3oVQ19 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNSXBAivLgY

Thanks, Aaron. I watched a few of them and they pretty much prove my point. But it really is uncanny how much he LOOKS like Perry.

Thanks for the replies. After listening to a lot of these links, although I wouldn't describe Hugo as a "dead ringer" for Perry's voice, he does resemble Perry's sound. His upper register is more in his falsetto than his head voice which gives it the lightness of timbre. I don't hear the r and b "Sam Cook" melismas in the solo stuff and they are weak in the Journey covers. All this said, the guy is still a great rock singer and has a great melodic rock sound. I like his stuff. Of course, NO ONE comes close to "the voice"!

Dude, I agree with you. You have to take Hugo for what he can do. He sounds similar to Perry but he's not a clone. He rocks a lot harder and his song writing is as good as anyone's IMO.

I don't think Hugo is in falsetto on any of his singing. He is a taller person (like me). With bigger parts, your natural range is lower than smaller people (ie SP). I think Hugo is zipping his chords up to hit the notes, not going to falsetto. Falsetto is an airy tone when the edges of the chords vibrate to hit the notes. Zipping up the chords is where you bring together the lower part of the chords together and only vibrating the upper part of the chords to hit to hit the notes. So you have only a portion of the chords working plus larger cavities that reasonate at lower frequencies. I think Hugo is zipping up the chords running in almost all head voice to hit the notes. I think this is what gives his tone a lighter timbre. In any event, the dude can do some good rock. I'd argue better than Journey lately.

Navarro wrote:Thanks for the replies. After listening to a lot of these links, although I wouldn't describe Hugo as a "dead ringer" for Perry's voice, he does resemble Perry's sound. His upper register is more in his falsetto than his head voice which gives it the lightness of timbre. I don't hear the r and b "Sam Cook" melismas in the solo stuff and they are weak in the Journey covers. All this said, the guy is still a great rock singer and has a great melodic rock sound. I like his stuff. Of course, NO ONE comes close to "the voice"!

Aaron wrote:Dude, I agree with you. You have to take Hugo for what he can do. He sounds similar to Perry but he's not a clone. He rocks a lot harder and his song writing is as good as anyone's IMO.

I don't think Hugo is in falsetto on any of his singing. He is a taller person (like me). With bigger parts, your natural range is lower than smaller people (ie SP). I think Hugo is zipping his chords up to hit the notes, not going to falsetto. Falsetto is an airy tone when the edges of the chords vibrate to hit the notes. Zipping up the chords is where you bring together the lower part of the chords together and only vibrating the upper part of the chords to hit to hit the notes. So you have only a portion of the chords working plus larger cavities that reasonate at lower frequencies. I think Hugo is zipping up the chords running in almost all head voice to hit the notes. I think this is what gives his tone a lighter timbre. In any event, the dude can do some good rock. I'd argue better than Journey lately.

Yea....it's not falsetto--at least for the most part. He has done a little bit of falsetto here and there, but no more than early Perry. The other thing to remember is that the voice gets thinner the higher you go. Hugo wasn't exactly blessed with a lot of depth in his voice to begin with, and he's lost a little bit of that depth just due to the natural age process (compare the first Valentine cd to anything recent to see what I mean). Combine all that and you get Hugo's voice that is about the same depth as what would be falsetto for another singer.

Dude I agree mostly with your analysis. However, when you go into falsetto, you vibrate the edges of the chords which leads to lots of air moved through the lungs for very little sound output (low effeciency). Zipping the chords requires much less air volume for the sound output. Hugo can rock several bars with one one breath. Running in falsetto, you couldn't run very many notes without running out of breath. Hugo is not doing that. When you go higher zipping the chords the voice gets naturally lower in volume as less area reasonates to generate the sound. We can argue how strong Hugo's voice is but in any event, the dude can sing. As a taller person, I need to talk to him to see how he hits the high notes on a regular basis over the long hall.

When you're 5' tall you can hit all of the notes in chest voice and have a "powerful voice". I'm good with a lighter timbre that has emotion and rocks. Rock on Hugo.

kgdjpubs wrote:

Aaron wrote:Dude, I agree with you. You have to take Hugo for what he can do. He sounds similar to Perry but he's not a clone. He rocks a lot harder and his song writing is as good as anyone's IMO.

I don't think Hugo is in falsetto on any of his singing. He is a taller person (like me). With bigger parts, your natural range is lower than smaller people (ie SP). I think Hugo is zipping his chords up to hit the notes, not going to falsetto. Falsetto is an airy tone when the edges of the chords vibrate to hit the notes. Zipping up the chords is where you bring together the lower part of the chords together and only vibrating the upper part of the chords to hit to hit the notes. So you have only a portion of the chords working plus larger cavities that reasonate at lower frequencies. I think Hugo is zipping up the chords running in almost all head voice to hit the notes. I think this is what gives his tone a lighter timbre. In any event, the dude can do some good rock. I'd argue better than Journey lately.

Yea....it's not falsetto--at least for the most part. He has done a little bit of falsetto here and there, but no more than early Perry. The other thing to remember is that the voice gets thinner the higher you go. Hugo wasn't exactly blessed with a lot of depth in his voice to begin with, and he's lost a little bit of that depth just due to the natural age process (compare the first Valentine cd to anything recent to see what I mean). Combine all that and you get Hugo's voice that is about the same depth as what would be falsetto for another singer.

All this talk about vibrators an not a woman to be found in this thread .....what a waste

I like Hugo's original material.

His voice is a bit thin, but he is good.

kgdjpubs wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Not gonna comment on his original material (tho I did almost buy The Dream cd he did with Ramos), but the Journey covers I've seen are very weak. He may have the nasality of Perry, but not the range and certainly not the power.

The best cd for me was the original Hugo album (or basically the 3rd Valentine cd). The others had their moments, but that one cd was better than some of the cds Journey released for me. Wasn't impressed at all with the Ramos/Hugo cd. Really weak songwriting on that one.

His voice works on the original material, but it fails when you compare him to the depth of Perry's voice at the same range on the Journey material. He's got the range though. His stage presence is a bit freaky also. Probably too many years of consciously trying to copy Perry, and the physical resemblance makes for a strange combination.

the 'third Valentine' CD is actually Open Skyz. A bit lighter but still good.

IMO, everything after that is way over rated.

Aaron wrote:Hugo has made the mistake of looking too much like SP while fronting a Journey Tribute Band.

Do youself a favor and buy:
- Hugo
- Hugo - Time on Earth
- Hugo - Fire in the Night
- Valentine
- Valentine - Soul Salvation
- Ramo/Hugo - The Dream

They are all really good cd's. Hugo's writing capabilities are as good as anyones. Journey would be lucky to have his talents fronting the band. Mac even stated on the main site that Hugo's CD was what Trial By Fire should have been. The dude is good and can hit the notes whether he looks like SP or not.

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