They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[S2M]

Welcome to the Kakistocracy

[S2M]

Welcome to the Kakistocracy

For fucks sake..

http://www.newstatesman.com/world/2017/01/donald-trump-ushers-new-era-kakistocracy-government-worst-people

It's ALL right here, for intellectual consumption.

[Boomchild]

Was it true that under this junk agreement India could double their coal production while we were required to shut ours down? That's what some dude on CNBC said earlier.

One of the things that was pointed out to me was that even though China has been deemed as one of the biggest negative contributors to climate change, they are not in the top portion of the list of fund commitments to the Paris accord. This video discusses the accord and goes over things that Trump most likely took into consideration when dropping out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVOOMyYde0c&t=186s

[Boomchild]

Judicial Watch: New Clinton Emails Show Classified Information Sent to Clinton Foundation Employees

June 1, 2017



Emails also show Abedin providing government plane and hotel reservations to Chelsea Clinton for trip to Germany while employed at Clinton Foundation

Abedin tells Band that she has ‘hooked up’ people from the Russian American Foundation with ‘the right people’ at the State Department

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released 2,078 pages of documents revealing more instances of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sending and receiving classified information via an unsecured email server. They also show Clinton’s daughter Chelsea and others involved with the Clinton Foundation receiving special favors from Huma Abedin, the former secretary’s deputy chief of staff.

The records were obtained in response to a court order from a May 5, 2015, lawsuit filed against the State Department ( Judicial Watch, Inc. v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:15-cv-00684)) after it failed to respond to a March 18, 2015, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking: “All emails of official State Department business received or sent by former Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin from January 1, 2009 through February 1, 2013 using a non-‘ state.gov’ email address.”

The new documents included 115 Clinton email exchanges not previously turned over to the State Department, bringing the known total to date to at least 432 emails that were not part of the 55,000 pages of emails that Clinton turned over to the State Department. These records further appear to contradict statements by Clinton that, “ as far as she knew ,” all of her government emails were turned over to the State Department.

On December 6, 2010, Secretary Clinton shared classified information with non-U.S. government employees Justin Cooper , then-aide to President Clinton who helped manage Hillary Clinton’s unsecure email system, and Clinton Foundation director Doug Band (neither of whom held security clearances). The email instructs her aide Oscar Flores to “print for Bill” (presumably Bill Clinton). The email exchange, which involved allegations of the theft of foreign aid by Bangladeshi banker and major Clinton Foundation donor Muhammad Yunus, started with an email from an unidentified person to State Department official Melanne Verveer, who forwarded her exchange on to Hillary Clinton, who then sent it on to Flores, Cooper and Band.

Yunus was accused of embezzling $100 million from the Grameen Bank he founded and was removed from it, although the charges were never proven, and Yunus reportedly returned the money. Subsequently, Clinton’s State Department was accused of threatening IRS action against the Bangladesh prime minister’s son in an attempt to stop a Bangladesh government investigation of Yunus.

In a similar instance on March 14, 2011, State Department official Maria Otero emailed Clinton information about the Grameen Bank/Foundation that was again deemed classified as Confidential by the State Department and redacted under FOIA exemption B1.4(D) – “Information specifically authorized by an executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy … Foreign relations or foreign activities of the United States, including confidential sources.” Clinton then responds to Otero using her HDR22@clintonemailcom account and copies Abedin on Abedin’s unsecure email account, huma@clintonemail.com.

In May 2010, Ben Ringel, whose donations to the Clinton Foundation Judicial Watch previously documented , asked Abedin to intervene in an employment dispute on behalf of a USAID employee. Abedin agreed, telling Ringel to forward the woman’s documents to her official State Department email account.

In a May 21, 2011, email exchange sent to Abedin’s unsecure account, then- Ambassador Princeton Lyman sent information relating to his conversation with South Sudan President Salva Kiir Mayardit that is also redacted and classified as “Confidential.”

On July 17, 2012, Abedin forwarded to her private email account for printing a call briefing sheet for Clinton’s upcoming call with Joint Special Envoy Kofi Annan, which was classified Confidential and redacted under FOIA exemption B1.4(D).

The new Abedin emails also reveal additional instances in which Clinton’s then- scheduler Lona Valmoro forwarded the former secretary of state’s detailed daily schedule to top Clinton Foundation officials.

The new emails also reveal a number of favors that were requested and carried out.

In May 2010, Abedin tells Band that she has “ hooked up ” people from the Russian American Foundation with “the right people” at the State Department after Abedin received a request from Russian American Foundation Vice President Rina Kirshner, forwarded by Clinton Foundation donor Eddie Trump (no relation to President Trump).

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Huma Abedin < Huma@clintonemail.com> wrote:

Hi Rina – wanted to connect on meeting at state department. Eddie trump passed on your email. Will be in touch soon

From: Rina Kirshner

Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:29 AM

To: Huma Abedin

Subject: Re: Eddie Trump/Doug Band

Ms. Abedin,

Just wanted to follow up and express our gratitude. I was contacted today by Ms. Christina Miner who invited us to be part of the US-Russia Cultural Sub-Working Group meeting next week. Thank you very much for all your assistance – if there is any way we can be of assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Rina Kirshner

From: Huma Abedin [ Huma@clintonemail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:19:12

To: Doug Band

Subject: FW: Eddie Trump/Doug Band

fyi – we hooked her up with the right people here

The Russia-American Foundation was staffed by Clinton political supporters and operatives, received over $260,000 in grants for “public diplomacy” from the Clinton State Department, and its leadership was supportive of Obama’s Russia policies.

In July 2011, when Chelsea Clinton, using the alias Diane Reynolds and the email address dreynolds@clintonemail.com, was planning to fly to Germany to see the U.S. women’s soccer team play, her travel agent asked Abedin to confirm that Chelsea’s travel costs could be placed on her parents’ credit card. In response, Abedin tells the agent that she can “stand down” from making arrangements to get Chelsea to Germany, as Chelsea and Bari Luri, Chelsea’s Clinton Foundation chief of staff, would be made part of the “ official delegation ” going to the match and she would “fly on official govt plane both ways and they will take care of hotels and all transportation.” Chelsea was a fully employed Clinton Foundation executive at this time.

In July 2011, Clinton tells Abedin that she doesn’t wish to fly on the same airplane with Michelle Obama on their way to Betty Ford’s funeral: “I’d be honored to speak. Is it ok that we and Mrs. O take two separate planes?”

A December 15, 2012, email chain shows that a committee of Clinton staffers, including Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines, was required to draft a “doctors statement” as to why Hillary supposedly fainted due to “dehydration,” causing her supposedly to hit her head and suffer a “concussion” in December 2012. The same committee then prepared a “ discharge statement ” when Hillary was released from the hospital.

“These shocking new Clinton emails show why the Justice Department should reevaluate, reopen, or reinvigorate Clinton, Inc. investigations,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The casual violation of laws concerning classified material and noxious influence peddling show the Clinton State Department was ‘corruption central’ in the Obama administration. No wonder Clinton’s allies in the State and Justice Departments had been slow-walking and hiding these emails.”

This information coming to light is all well good. But I say so what. She is still walking around free and it seems that no one including the current administration is concerned about it. This stuff only matters if something is done about it and I for one am not expecting that to happen. As far as this subject goes it's "business as usual" in Washington.

[Monker]

Or propaganda for sheep.

You guys go on and on with "pizza gate" in this forum...accusing the Clinton's and Obama's of child sex trafficing. All lies...lies that resulted in a murder at the pizza place that was sposed to be some sort of meeting place. THAT is propaganda and "fake news" for naive sheep like you.

A few weeks ago you all were going on and on about Seth Rich, accusing the Clinton's of assassinating him. You go on and on about it...until the family tells Hannity to shut the fuck up and stop lying. Again, a fake news story that you all bought into and were posting about it as fact.

IMO, this is not much different then holding up a severed and bloody head. The only difference is - it's fake news that people actually believe and it is NOT intended to be a joke.

BTW, on that topic. I remember a few years ago that Ted Nugent publicly called for Obama's murder. He wasn't forced off the tour. Sponsors did not drop out. He wasn't affected much at all.

YOU all are sheep...believe in shit designed for your naive minds to consume and repeat. Naive, hypocritical, sheep.

[Boomchild]

[Monker]

Talking to yourself Monker? "Russia,Russia, Russia."

No. I am talking directly to you, and others on this forum, who take the lead from opinionators like Hannity and spread his fake news by posting it here. They are outlandish stories which common sense should tell YOU that they are not true...but, you get all excited anyway.

The Russian thing is real. The US House and Senate are both investigating it, plus the independent investigator at the FBI. No matter how dismissive you and Trump are - it is REAL and not going away any time soon. My God, Putin all but admitted it recently.

[Monker]

And, yesterday he said that it was patriotic Russian hackers who were hacking the US election system.

He lies almost as bad as Trump does.

Talking to yourself Monker? "Russia,Russia, Russia."

My God, Putin all but admitted it recently.

Say what, talk about believing outlandish nonsense!

Vladimir Putin fights election-tampering accusations with his own shots at US

Fox news
June 2, 2017


Russian President Vladimir Putin turned the tables on claims the Kremlin meddled in the U.S. presidential election, with a feisty Putin on Friday accusing American spies of “crude and systematic” widespread interference in Russian affairs.

Putin, speaking at an economic forum in St. Petersburg moderated by NBC’s Megyn Kelly, said the probe into Russia’s alleged attempts to influence the election via collusion with President Trump’s campaign team was merely “hysteria,” Reuters reported. He even tried to calm an inquisitive Kelly by asking: “Isn’t there a pill they can give you?”

He also compared the anti-Russian sentiment in the U.S. to anti-Semitism.

“It’s like saying everything is the Jews’ fault,” said Putin, who placed the blame for Hillary Clinton’s November loss squarely at the feet of the Democratic presidential candidate and members of her party.

Putin deftly brushed off questions about meetings that members of the Trump campaign – including then-Sen. Jeff Sessions – had with Russian diplomat Sergey Kislyak.

So our ambassador met someone. That's his job. That's why we pay him,” Putin said, according to a translation. “So what? What's he supposed to do, hit up the bars?”

He described the focus on Kislyak's contacts as “catastrophic nonsense.”

What day is it?

[slucero]

LMAO.....

"I take responsibility for every decision I made, but that's not why I lost."

~Hillary Clinton

[Boomchild]

Things seem to be all good in Germany! Another example of the new "normal" in the E.U..

CONCERT 'TERROR' EVACUATION German music festival Rock am Ring evacuated after cops warn of ‘terror threat’

Organisers asked all attendees to leave the Rock am Ring festival in Nuerburg, Germany, following what they say was a security warning by police.

Koblenz police said they had received information of a “concrete threat” against the event.

In a statement, cops said they were in possession of “concrete elements, in the light of which a possible terrorist threat cannot be ruled out”.

It added: “As safety is the key priority and any danger to festivalgoers has to be avoided as much as possible, a decision has been taken to suspend the festival for today.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3711222/g ... or-threat/

[Boomchild]

http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/02/kathy-griffin-concert-canceled-trump/

Is this a GREAT COUNTRY or what?

Ain't Karma a bitch.

[Boomchild]

Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager are doing a tour and film of college campuses called "No Safe Spaces". Since Hollywood would never make such a film they are using Indiegogo to fund the project. Check out the video presentation on it, the first part is hilarious.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/no-s ... iversity#/

[The_Noble_Cause]

You guys go on and on with "pizza gate" in this forum...accusing the Clinton's and Obama's of child sex trafficing. All lies...lies that resulted in a murder at the pizza place that was sposed to be some sort of meeting place. THAT is propaganda and "fake news" for naive sheep like you.

As far as I am aware nobody was murdered. Shots were fired by a gunman. Obviously, nobody should grab a AR-15 and take justice into their own hands based off an Alex Jones report. However, those who are intellectually honest must admit that the images on the Comet Pizza social media pages were inappropriate, disturbing, and child-exploitative in nature. On the internet, stuff like that is fuel for the fire of a paranoid mind.

A few weeks ago you all were going on and on about Seth Rich, accusing the Clinton's of assassinating him. You go on and on about it...until the family tells Hannity to shut the fuck up and stop lying. Again, a fake news story that you all bought into and were posting about it as fact.

It is apparent that Rich had some sort of communication with Wikileaks. His murder also remains unsolved. What is fake about that?

IMO, this is not much different then holding up a severed and bloody head. The only difference is - it's fake news that people actually believe and it is NOT intended to be a joke.

Kathy Griffin's photo-shoot reminds me of the "Wanted for Treason" flyers that were distributed in Dallas shortly before JFK was murdered. The Left has normalized violent language against the President. Every day Keith Olberman signs off his videos telling Trump to "resign or be removed." Madonna was talking about blowing up the White House . Even Colbert's homophobic "cock-holster" joke was also a new low in network broadcasting. As proven by Griffin's whimpering press conference today, you are all a bunch of pussies. When actually taken to account for your behavior, you play the victim card.

BTW, on that topic. I remember a few years ago that Ted Nugent publicly called for Obama's murder. He wasn't forced off the tour. Sponsors did not drop out. He wasn't affected much at all.

So a couple of things....Nungent WAS roundly condemned for those comments. He is also not a CNN host. Petitions were drafted by the Left to boycott Nugent and the Secret Service looked into his comments. What more do you want? Nobody expects the "Motor City Madman" to be a profile in subtlety. Griffin's action, however, was not just rhetorical. I think many people, across the political spectrum, reacted viscerally to such a gruesome image. She is a sick bitch.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Vladimir Putin fights election-tampering accusations with his own shots at US

Fox news
June 2, 2017


Russian President Vladimir Putin turned the tables on claims the Kremlin meddled in the U.S. presidential election, with a feisty Putin on Friday accusing American spies of “crude and systematic” widespread interference in Russian affairs.

Putin, speaking at an economic forum in St. Petersburg moderated by NBC’s Megyn Kelly, said the probe into Russia’s alleged attempts to influence the election via collusion with President Trump’s campaign team was merely “hysteria,” Reuters reported. He even tried to calm an inquisitive Kelly by asking: “Isn’t there a pill they can give you?”

He also compared the anti-Russian sentiment in the U.S. to anti-Semitism.

“It’s like saying everything is the Jews’ fault,” said Putin, who placed the blame for Hillary Clinton’s November loss squarely at the feet of the Democratic presidential candidate and members of her party.

Putin deftly brushed off questions about meetings that members of the Trump campaign – including then-Sen. Jeff Sessions – had with Russian diplomat Sergey Kislyak.

So our ambassador met someone. That's his job. That's why we pay him,” Putin said, according to a translation. “So what? What's he supposed to do, hit up the bars?”

He described the focus on Kislyak's contacts as “catastrophic nonsense.”

Putin's right. The Russian xenophobia could just as easily be replaced with antisemitism or racism. The "tolerant" left have been whipped up into Russiaphobic McCarthyite dolts by the very same institutions (like the CIA) that they have sought to tear down. Since November 8, 2016, I have heard more about Russia from liberals than I ever did about Osama or radical jihad.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Her speech was obviously an expression of her belief that America can no longer be trusted to be an ally.

Oh please. America helped rebuild their country after World War 2. Other than Beethoven, the beer stein and the autobahn, they have given us virtually nothing,

It's not exploiting anything....but warning that a time may come when Europe,or a NATO member, may expect the help of the US but the US will not respond as a good ally should be expected to.

Again, as always, your analysis is the same drivel that was repeated endlessly on the media. All you do is regurgitate inch-deep analysis by paid hacks. Anyone who read or watched the whole speech could tell that she was clearly trying to sound like a Le Pen or Trump-style nationalist.

"And that is why I can only say that we Europeans must really take our fate into our own hands—of course in friendship with the United States of America, in friendship with Great Britain and as good neighbors wherever that is possible also with other countries, even with Russia.But we need to know that we have to fight for our own future and destiny as Europeans."

Yeah, it takes a lot of leadership to drop bombs or airstrikes in a WAR ZONE. What a stupid thing for you to say.

If it's so easy, why didn't Obama enforce the red line against Syria? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Monker]

Her speech was obviously an expression of her belief that America can no longer be trusted to be an ally.

Oh please. America helped rebuild their country after World War 2. Other than Beethoven, the beer stein and the autobahn, they have given us virtually nothing,

Well, if you are going to include people like Beethoven...
Albert Einstein

Wernher von Braun - along with unexploded V2 rockets, designed and built the rockets in Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo mission, including the Satern V...the largest and most powerful rocket ever built.

In fact, many of the scientists that worked in the Manhattan Project were refugees of Germany,

The first practical jet engine aircraft were German built

The autobahn predates the US Highway system.

The old Grimm faery tales are German. Hansel and Grettle, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Little Red Riding Hood. The German Black Forest was the inspiration for many of them.

German chocolate cake, bratwurst, Black Forest Ham,

Oh, Lexx. Germany is responsible for giving us Lexx.

It's not exploiting anything....but warning that a time may come when Europe,or a NATO member, may expect the help of the US but the US will not respond as a good ally should be expected to.

Again, as always, your analysis is the same drivel that was repeated endlessly on the media. All you do is regurgitate inch-deep analysis by paid hacks. Anyone who read or watched the whole speech could tell that she was clearly trying to sound like a Le Pen or Trump-style nationalist.

Actually, I wrote that BEFORE it was over-analyzed by the media. THAT is what usually happens.

"And that is why I can only say that we Europeans must really take our fate into our own hands—of course in friendship with the United States of America, in friendship with Great Britain and as good neighbors wherever that is possible also with other countries, even with Russia.But we need to know that we have to fight for our own future and destiny as Europeans."

And, all of that is BECAUSE THEY CAN NO LONGER RELY ON THE US AS A GOOD ALLY.

Yeah, it takes a lot of leadership to drop bombs or airstrikes in a WAR ZONE. What a stupid thing for you to say.

If it's so easy, why didn't Obama enforce the red line against Syria? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[/quote]

I did not say it was "easy". Quit posting that I say things that I don't. I said it didn't take much leadership to drop bombs and launch an airstrike in a war zone.

But, since YOU think it was "easy"...YOUR WORD - not mine:

it takes more skill to know when to not strike back then it does to be provoked by a Tweet. There is a scene in the Odyssey mini-series where Telemachus is challenged to a fight by a man he hates. Odysseus tells him to fight but to remember that to be angry is the easy way. That to be angry at the right time, in the right place, at the right person - THAT is hard. Telemachus gets his butt kicked and is extremely frustrated - and angry. Someone hands him a knife and tells him to not take this shamefull abuse any longer. Odysseus , disguised as an old beggar, turns his back to the fight and yells, "NO! To be angry is easy!" Telemachus drops the knife and walks away. They meet and clean the blood off of Telemachus face. Odysseus says, "You did well. There is no shame in this."

Hillary was right that Trump can be triggered by a simple Tweet that makes him angry. Seeing babies die may be hard but to base your entire policy on Syria on that one event is WRONG. It's foolish. Dropping bombs from that anger is EASY. Being restrained, as Obama was, and waiting for the right time, THAT is hard.

It is easy for Trump supporters to point to these events with a ''rah, rah' attitude. But, it changed nothing in the region. The MOAB may have been more strategic because the generals wanted to use it....but the airstrike didn't have much lasting affect at all.

The mistake Obama made wasn't not Trumping out and bombing Syria...the mistake was talking about lines in the sand. Just like Bush's mistake wasn't raising taxes, but making the blanket statement, "No new taxes." When such things are said it invites people like Hannity to look at it through a microscope to find a way to make it a lie and a bad decision. Bush had to raise taxes (just as Reagan did) to keep the deficit "somewhat" under control. Obama starting a new war in Syria would have been a horribly bad decision...do it right or don't do it at all.

[Monker]

You guys go on and on with "pizza gate" in this forum...accusing the Clinton's and Obama's of child sex trafficing. All lies...lies that resulted in a murder at the pizza place that was sposed to be some sort of meeting place. THAT is propaganda and "fake news" for naive sheep like you.

As far as I am aware nobody was murdered. Shots were fired by a gunman. Obviously, nobody should grab a AR-15 and take justice into their own hands based off an Alex Jones report. However, those who are intellectually honest must admit that the images on the Comet Pizza social media pages were inappropriate, disturbing, and child-exploitative in nature. On the internet, stuff like that is fuel for the fire of a paranoid mind.

You're right that nobody was killed. I was thinking there was.

Quit making excuses for this. The ENTIRE SITUATION WAS WRONG. It was a made up bullshit story that ran amuck for MONTHS. it was spread about on Twitter by people like FF and KC...which made it even worse. The owners of Comet Pizza are NOT to blame for anything. It is these assholes who refuse to believe reality that took things too far. They turned vigilante.

A few weeks ago you all were going on and on about Seth Rich, accusing the Clinton's of assassinating him. You go on and on about it...until the family tells Hannity to shut the fuck up and stop lying. Again, a fake news story that you all bought into and were posting about it as fact.

It is apparent that Rich had some sort of communication with Wikileaks. His murder also remains unsolved. What is fake about that?

Nothing is apparent. You are dealing with a bunch of fucking liars. To say ANYTHING is apparent in this type of fake news and conspiracy theory is to contribute to the problem. The guy who wants to release his evidence? Mr. Fibbles, or whatever that hacker's name is, he is a fugitive of the United States and wants to trade his testimony for safe passage in and out of the US. He is obviously a selfish liar who is playing games.

The FAMILY says it is bullshit. I'll believe them rather than any of these lying assholes, and that includes Hannity.

IMO, this is not much different then holding up a severed and bloody head. The only difference is - it's fake news that people actually believe and it is NOT intended to be a joke.

Kathy Griffin's photo-shoot reminds me of the "Wanted for Treason" flyers that were distributed in Dallas shortly before JFK was murdered. The Left has normalized violent language against the President. Every day Keith Olberman signs off his videos telling Trump to "resign or be removed." Madonna was talking about blowing up the White House . Even Colbert's homophobic "cock-holster" joke was also a new low in network broadcasting. As proven by Griffin's whimpering press conference today, you are all a bunch of pussies. When actually taken to account for your behavior, you play the victim card.

The Left "normalized violent language against the President?" We went through 8yrs of crap from the right attacking Obama. Then Trump himself goes about name calling and being an ass during his campaign. Saying the left "normalized" it is just fantasy.

In one of these instances there is A KNOWN COMEDIAN holding a severed head of Trump. Oooh, BAD JOKE. And, I really don't give a damn past that.

In the other, you get Democrats sex trafficing . Which WAS NOT TRUE but, hey, naive and ignorant Republicans BELIEVE any negative bullshit about the Clinton's and Obama. And, it festered by people like FF and KC to the point where someone goes to the pizza place shooting people.

One shocks people. One has a murderer going on a shooting spree.

BTW, on that topic. I remember a few years ago that Ted Nugent publicly called for Obama's murder. He wasn't forced off the tour. Sponsors did not drop out. He wasn't affected much at all.

So a couple of things....Nungent WAS roundly condemned for those comments.

And, Griffin was fired.

He is also not a CNN host.

He is a frequent guest on FOX shows. He even sang "Cat Scratch Fever" on Huckabee's show, with Huckabee on playing bass. He is politically active. He has been a board member of the NRA for years.

But, whatever. They are both entertainers...Griffin a comedian, Nugent a musician.

Petitions were drafted by the Left to boycott Nugent

And, I'm sure the right have been boycotting Griffin by default.

and the Secret Service looked into his comments.

And, the SS is REQUIRED to investigate any threat made to the President.

What more do you want?

I want sponsors to drop off of the tour, his record label to drop him...to be as close to being 'fired' as can be.

Nobody expects the "Motor City Madman" to be a profile in subtlety.

NOBODY should be able to publicly call for the President's murder. I don't care who they are.

[quote[Griffin's action, however, was not just rhetorical. I think many people, across the political spectrum, reacted viscerally to such a gruesome image. She is a sick bitch.[/quote]

Oh, and this is sooooo "rhetorical"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EgALtNmJJQ

[Boomchild]

[S2M]

I applaud Kathy Griffin for her photo. About time someone spoke out on this sad excuse for a president. Political Correctiveness has ruined this nation. Either that, or I'm just some House Nigger.

[S2M]

Monker, please stop lying about me being one who spread pizza gate propaganda. I made one post here when that story broke. I don't have twitter so don't accuse me of being one who spread this on twitter. I don't really remember KC joining that discussion either but could be wrong, he can go back thru his own post like I did to disprove your lies. Hard to take you serious when you make outlandish claims, which you do daily.

It's hard to take anything seriously from a group of people who put Party before country. Just saying...

And for those STILL confused...I'm talking about the Republicans.

[Memorex]

Monker, please stop lying about me being one who spread pizza gate propaganda. I made one post here when that story broke. I don't have twitter so don't accuse me of being one who spread this on twitter. I don't really remember KC joining that discussion either but could be wrong, he can go back thru his own post like I did to disprove your lies. Hard to take you serious when you make outlandish claims, which you do daily.

It's hard to take anything seriously from a group of people who put Party before country. Just saying...

And for those STILL confused...I'm talking about the Republicans.

I'm not clear how hard I am supposed to laugh at this. As if either party puts country first. I will say Trump seems to put country first (for what he feels that is), but I would not accuse either party of the same. At least much of the Republican party voters have begun to question their own party pretty hard. Seems the Dems just keep doubling down. And I'm here in the middle laughing at your comment.

[Boomchild]

More terror in London tonight. Maybe someday the rest of the steeple will wake up to the reality of how to stop this. It won't be pretty but neither is this shit.

Gee let me guess the city's government response, "We have to accept this as part of our daily lives".

[Boomchild]

Teddy Bears, Flowers and Candles and Song. That will work.

And don't forget the most important thing all, changing your Facebook avatar to show you care.

[Boomchild]

I applaud Kathy Griffin for her photo. About time someone spoke out on this sad excuse for a president. Political Correctiveness has ruined this nation. Either that, or I'm just some House Nigger.

Applaud her for what? For posting an image that doesn't present an argument. An image that promotes violence. Glad to know that this is what people that claim to be progressive and advocates for peace and non violent solutions are really about. Seems to me some are getting so desperate that their true nature is getting exposed.

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

From Wikileaks:

Most recent edition of ISIS magazine magazine Rumiyah shows new tactic: fake housing rental advertisement http://archive.is/KdgUM#selection-20351.0-20351.14

[Monker]

KC, how much did you post about pizzagate? Or anyone else here. I just don't remember a lot of discussion here about that.

YOU were posting articles of fake news which claimed Democrats were involved in sex trafficking, including the Wikileaks bit that sparked the shootings. You may not have used a hashtag, or posted it from Twitter, but that IS Pizzagate. YOU and KC are part of the problem of why this shit goes on.

[Monker]

Monker, please stop lying about me being one who spread pizza gate propaganda. I made one post here when that story broke. I don't have twitter so don't accuse me of being one who spread this on twitter. I don't really remember KC joining that discussion either but could be wrong, he can go back thru his own post like I did to disprove your lies. Hard to take you serious when you make outlandish claims, which you do daily.

It's hard to take anything seriously from a group of people who put Party before country. Just saying...

And for those STILL confused...I'm talking about the Republicans.

Then you need to look at Democrats and how they are acting and what they are doing, or "confused" isn't the word for you.

I don't care if it is only one post. You two do it constantly. moving from subject to subject You post outlandish BULLSHIT accusing the Clintons or Obama of everything to hiring assassins to fucking children. You do it nonchalantly and without any apology when it comes out as a bunch of lies. And, yes, it is YOU putting party above country when you post any detrimental article you can find about the Clintons or Obama without doing any common sense checking to see if it is true. YOU are spreading lies for the Republican party and probably Russia as well.

[Monker]

"Wernher von Braun - along with unexploded V2 rockets, designed and built the rockets in Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo mission, including the Satern V...the largest and most powerful rocket ever built."

Right, they had the choice of helping us for a good living or being executed for Nazi war crimes.

"In fact, many of the scientists that worked in the Manhattan Project were refugees of Germany,"

See above, Nazi scientists escaping execution.

"The first practical jet engine aircraft were German built "

To kill more Americans for the Nazi's, like the V2 rockets you mentioned.

"The autobahn predates the US Highway system."

Built for Nazi Germany to get around quicker to the Countries they planned to invade, and supply prison camps. In other words, it's a good thing they got their ass kicked, although I'm sure you'll disagree.

You are such an idiot. Do you even realize that you just said the German scientists were fleeing Germany during WW2 because they were being accused of war crimes? Do you even know how fucking STUPID that statement is? Don't you think it may have something to do with gas chambers and concentration camps?

http://www.atomicheritage.org/article/s ... an-project

Beginning in the 1930s, Adolf Hitler and the Nazis actively persecuted Jews, those of part-Jewish descent, and political opponents, including those in prominent academic positions. As a result, many leading scientists, philosphers, and thinkers fled to the West. Many refugees later joined the Manhattan Project in England and America. Among the scientists who fled Europe were Albert Einstein, Hans Bethe, John von Neumann, Leo Szilard, James Franck, Edward Teller, Rudolf Peierls, and Klaus Fuchs. Enrico Fermi's wife Laura was Jewish; after the 1938 Nobel Prize ceremony, he and his family left for the United States. Joseph Rotblat returned home to Poland and left days before the outbreak of World War II. Tragically, his wife was unable to accompany him and later died during the Holocaust in a concentration camp.

Then you mention in your ignorance about jet engines. The first jet engine built in Germany was designed and prototyped BEFORE THE WAR. It was meant to start for commercial flights, not war.

If you go back and read WHY the US highway system was built, you may be surprised to find that much of it was for military use....again, inspired by the Germans.

You simply post out of angst and complete ignorance. Much like the President.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Well, if you are going to include people like Beethoven...
Albert Einstein
Wernher von Braun - along with unexploded V2 rockets, designed and built the rockets in Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo mission, including the Satern V...the largest and most powerful rocket ever built.

In fact, many of the scientists that worked in the Manhattan Project were refugees of Germany,

The first practical jet engine aircraft were German built

The autobahn predates the US Highway system.

The old Grimm faery tales are German. Hansel and Grettle, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, Little Red Riding Hood. The German Black Forest was the inspiration for many of them.

German chocolate cake, bratwurst, Black Forest Ham,

Oh, Lexx. Germany is responsible for giving us Lexx.

You conveniently left out your favorite export – German shizer porn

Actually, I wrote that BEFORE it was over-analyzed by the media. THAT is what usually happens.

Yea, sure. Next you'll tell us that it was YOU who came up with “Hillary had permission to use a secret server” before the DNC /liberal media. If message forums existed in earlier times, you would be posting bland watery statements like “Truman should quit. I think Dewey has this in the bag” or “Pretty obvious Lee Harvey is the shooter.” You add nothing to the conversation except to amplify bullshit based on the opinions of overpaid corporate bimbos.

And, all of that is BECAUSE THEY CAN NO LONGER RELY ON THE US AS A GOOD ALLY. .

Based on what? Because the US will no longer subsidize Germany’s defense in NATO? Ever think that Germany has grown complacent and expects this military industrial welfare? We can still have Germany’s back without taking it in the ass.

But, since YOU think it was "easy"...YOUR WORD - not mine:

it takes more skill to know when to not strike back then it does to be provoked by a Tweet. There is a scene in the Odyssey mini-series where Telemachus is challenged to a fight by a man he hates. Odysseus tells him to fight but to remember that to be angry is the easy way. That to be angry at the right time, in the right place, at the right person - THAT is hard. Telemachus gets his butt kicked and is extremely frustrated - and angry. Someone hands him a knife and tells him to not take this shamefull abuse any longer. Odysseus , disguised as an old beggar, turns his back to the fight and yells, "NO! To be angry is easy!" Telemachus drops the knife and walks away. They meet and clean the blood off of Telemachus face. Odysseus says, "You did well. There is no shame in this."

Uh-oh. Seems like Ol’ Monker is getting lost in daydream fantasies of oiled-up Greek adonises in togas again. He’ll probably only snap out of it when his sex toy factory foreman stops the line because rubbery phalluses are spilling over like chocolates in that I Love Lucy episode.