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Who's gonna win this thing?

USA
12
40%
CANADA
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50%
RUSSIA
1
3%
SWEDEN
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No votes
FINLAND
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No votes
CZECH REP
1
3%
SLOVAKIA
1
3%
SWITZERLAND
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 30

Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:44 pm

This games getting ugly now!! :lol: I love hockey :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:52 pm

Great game ! Sweden should win against Slovakia and then get their ass kicked Friday.

GO CANADA !!!!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:10 pm

N I E D E R M A Y E R ! !

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Postby Behshad » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:37 am

What a shocker! Slovakia knocks Sweden out and goes head to head vs Canada tomorrow! That should be an exciting game!
But with Finland winning over Czech Republic, we get an even more exciting semifinal FIN-USA !!!!

As much as Id like to see USA-Canada in the Gold medal game, I think Finland may play their best game ever tomorrow,,,,Looks like it will be another Goalie vs Goalie game! Milelr vs Kipper !
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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:53 am

So I turn on the farce known as "women's hockey" and to my fucking shock I see that Larry Bird is coaching the Canadian women's team! WTF? :?
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:05 pm

Saint John wrote:So I turn on the farce known as "women's hockey" and to my fucking shock I see that Larry Bird is coaching the Canadian women's team! WTF? :?


Nice smack Daniel Son. I knew that was coming and I knew it was going to come from your keyboard. :lol: You have gotta admit though dude, women's hockey is so much better than those horse faced bitches air balling layups in the WNBA. The only thing missing with those ugly assed women are tails., so they can swat he flies off their elongated grills. Jesus Christ already. Ever see Lisa Leslie? Put a saddlecloth on her and you'll get 5-2 in the Derby.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:19 pm

It'd hard to tell which ones worse. WNBA or Women Hockey.
One thing is for sure, womens hockey should NOT be a part of Olympics. When there's only TWO good teams and the rest SUCK , there is no excitement in following the damn thing.
Add to that the fact that they don't allow tackles in the game and you have a recipe for a snoozefest.
Hopefully by 2014 it won't be a part of olympics.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:26 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
Saint John wrote:So I turn on the farce known as "women's hockey" and to my fucking shock I see that Larry Bird is coaching the Canadian women's team! WTF? :?


Nice smack Daniel Son. I knew that was coming and I knew it was going to come from your keyboard. :lol: You have gotta admit though dude, women's hockey is so much better than those horse faced bitches air balling layups in the WNBA. The only thing missing with those ugly assed women are tails., so they can swat he flies off their elongated grills. Jesus Christ already. Ever see Lisa Leslie? Put a saddlecloth on her and you'll get 5-2 in the Derby.


I think both sports are full of vile looking women that spend hours in the gym/on ice because they'd have a hard time copping a feel from Richard Speck. The WNBA looks like a fucking playground full of kids conceived by the union of Condi Rice and Patrick Ewing, and women's hockey looks like the fucking Ice Capades featuring the union of Jocelyn Wildenstein and Iggy Pop.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:31 pm

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Rockindeano wrote:
Saint John wrote:So I turn on the farce known as "women's hockey" and to my fucking shock I see that Larry Bird is coaching the Canadian women's team! WTF? :?


Nice smack Daniel Son. I knew that was coming and I knew it was going to come from your keyboard. :lol: You have gotta admit though dude, women's hockey is so much better than those horse faced bitches air balling layups in the WNBA. The only thing missing with those ugly assed women are tails., so they can swat he flies off their elongated grills. Jesus Christ already. Ever see Lisa Leslie? Put a saddlecloth on her and you'll get 5-2 in the Derby.


I think both sports are full of vile looking women that spend hours in the gym/on ice because they'd have a hard time copping a feel from Richard Speck. The WNBA looks like a fucking playground full of kids conceived by the union of Condi Rice and Patrick Ewing, and women's hockey looks like the fucking Ice Capades featuring the union of Jocelyn Wildenstein and Iggy Pop.


lol, spot on both of you.

I will say that women's tennis is probably the most watchable of any of the women's sports in terms of skill level. They are still nowhere near their male counterparts, but they are much more skilled at their sport than things like WNBA, women's hockey, and what not. Now, with that said, I still hate watching it :lol: :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:43 pm

Women who are athletic and like to play sports have every right to be included in the olympics as men :P I'm sure they have their followers and people who enjoy it. Men will always dominate sports but it doesn't mean women shouldn't have a big goal like this to aspire to.
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Postby Behshad » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:55 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:Women who are athletic and like to play sports have every right to be included in the olympics as men :P I'm sure they have their followers and people who enjoy it. Men will always dominate sports but it doesn't mean women shouldn't have a big goal like this to aspire to.


Even women who played Hockey in the Olympics complained about the hockey. By 2014 they won't have Womens Hockey in the olympics.
It's not just about the very slow boring games. But also the facts that only Two teams (US and Canada) would win Big. (12-1. 18-0. 10-0 ). That takes away from the fun.And no tackles allowed ?! It's like telling Picasso " no brush allowed".
It's got nothing to do with men being better than women. It's simply a sport were women don't fit in as well when it comes to Olympics.
How many womens hockey game did you watch and follow ?!?!
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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:58 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:Women who are athletic and like to play sports


Men play sports. Women mimic them. :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:59 pm

Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:Women who are athletic and like to play sports have every right to be included in the olympics as men :P I'm sure they have their followers and people who enjoy it. Men will always dominate sports but it doesn't mean women shouldn't have a big goal like this to aspire to.


Even women who played Hockey in the Olympics complained about the hockey. By 2014 they won't have Womens Hockey in the olympics.
It's not just about the very slow boring games. But also the facts that only Two teams (US and Canada) would win Big. (12-1. 18-0. 10-0 ). That takes away from the fun.And no tackles allowed ?! It's like telling Picasso " no brush allowed".
It's got nothing to do with men being better than women. It's simply a sport were women don't fit in as well when it comes to Olympics.
How many womens hockey game did you watch and follow ?!?!


I never said I followed it. But I'm sure someone does. That's sad that other countries can't encourage their women better, to be better. It's sad for the women who love to play the sport. I am not athletic so I'm not drawn to it, but some women are. Without olympics, what other reason will they have to play? Is there a women's NHL?
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:59 pm

Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:Women who are athletic and like to play sports have every right to be included in the olympics as men :P I'm sure they have their followers and people who enjoy it. Men will always dominate sports but it doesn't mean women shouldn't have a big goal like this to aspire to.


Even women who played Hockey in the Olympics complained about the hockey. By 2014 they won't have Womens Hockey in the olympics.
It's not just about the very slow boring games. But also the facts that only Two teams (US and Canada) would win Big. (12-1. 18-0. 10-0 ). That takes away from the fun.And no tackles allowed ?! It's like telling Picasso " no brush allowed".
It's got nothing to do with men being better than women. It's simply a sport were women don't fit in as well when it comes to Olympics.
How many womens hockey game did you watch and follow ?!?!


That's the biggest issue with all women's sports - there's just no depth at all. Look at the UCONN women's basketball team, they've won an absurd number of consecutive games and no one's even come close... it's been like 3 seasons. Same with women's tennis, the opening rounds of a major tournament are always just outright slaughters by the seeded players. In all the men's sports, anything can happen on any given day. That the athleticism is better is a biological given, but the depth is the biggest thing that keeps me from enjoying even a skilled women's sport like tennis.

I don't know much about women's golf - is it the same way?
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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:00 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:I don't know much about women's golf - is it the same way?


Who gives a fuck! :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:02 pm

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StevePerryHair wrote:Women who are athletic and like to play sports


Men play sports. Women mimic them. :lol:


ok, I'll be sure to tell my daughter who loves to play sports she'll only ever be a mime at best :P :lol: some of the womens soccer players are awesome, and that was historically a male sport. It took the USA womens soccer team TOO long to be taken seriously. It's sad.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:06 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
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StevePerryHair wrote:Women who are athletic and like to play sports


Men play sports. Women mimic them. :lol:


ok, I'll be sure to tell my daughter who loves to play sports she'll only ever be a mime at best :P :lol:


The earlier they learn, the better :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:07 pm

They could easily replace womens Hockey in olympics with Mudd Wrestling and it'd have a bigger audience than any events in olympics.

Even knitting would be more fun to watch than womens hockey.

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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:07 pm

Is there a sport that women are actually better at than men? Perhaps vacuuming should be a sport. Sort of even things out. :lol: :twisted: :shock:
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:09 pm

Lynn-

I sincerely hope Dan, Behshad and Spongebob are being sarcastic. Women absolutely have a place in he Games and sports in general. I followed the women's hockey and while Behshad's correct in that the US and Canada are the two powers and everyone else tails way off- it's sill good hockey when those two play. IMO, they're so good, that until the world catches up, the gold medal should be a best of 3 between Canada and he USA.

You fellas going to now say Lindsey Vonn shouldn't be able to participate because she is well, a she? How about skier Jenn Heil of Canada? Bonnie Blair sucked too, right? She only won 5 gold medals. Jenn Maricuso sucks too. :roll: And before you knuckleheads bash women's hockey again, tell me Haley Wickenheiser of Canada sucks. Come on now you fuckin' chauvinists. All the women I just mentioned are 5 star athletes. Why the women bashing? I is plain stupid and sounds ridiculous.

Aside from figure skating, which isn't really a sport(it can' be a sport where judges determine the outcome), every women's event is as good as the men's except for hockey, where the power and speed are a huge glaring difference. And oh by the way Behshad, since when in the Hell is the term "tackling" used in a hockey reference? That's soccer you dipshit.

Also, I love tennis, but can anyone here honestly say a men's mach is more exciting than a women's?
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:36 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Lynn-

I sincerely hope Dan, Behshad and Spongebob are being sarcastic. Women absolutely have a place in he Games and sports in general. I followed the women's hockey and while Behshad's correct in that the US and Canada are the two powers and everyone else tails way off- it's sill good hockey when those two play. IMO, they're so good, that until the world catches up, the gold medal should be a best of 3 between Canada and he USA.

You fellas going to now say Lindsey Vonn shouldn't be able to participate because she is well, a she? How about skier Jenn Heil of Canada? Bonnie Blair sucked too, right? She only won 5 gold medals. Jenn Maricuso sucks too. :roll: And before you knuckleheads bash women's hockey again, tell me Haley Wickenheiser of Canada sucks. Come on now you fuckin' chauvinists. All the women I just mentioned are 5 star athletes. Why the women bashing? I is plain stupid and sounds ridiculous.

Aside from figure skating, which isn't really a sport(it can' be a sport where judges determine the outcome), every women's event is as good as the men's except for hockey, where the power and speed are a huge glaring difference. And oh by the way Behshad, since when in the Hell is the term "tackling" used in a hockey reference? That's soccer you dipshit.

Also, I love tennis, but can anyone here honestly say a men's mach is more exciting than a women's?


It's funny because just a few minutes ago I was watching the Olympics and they showed a little review of the women's hockey games! :lol: And I do get what Behshad means, about it being no competition and kind of boring as far as the OTHER countries, but it looked to me that the US and Canada was a very different thing. They said the game for the Gold was a packed stadium and it looked exciting to me from what they showed.

But what's sad to ME, is that those other countries don't back those women and encourage them and help them to be strong and better and make them feel that people care. I mean for the US and Canada to have 40 something to 2 scores against those other countries is just sad :( It's too bad other countries can't follow North America's example. They are doing something right! And i think it would be equally sad for them to lose the sport for the Olympics. Im sure they had to fight hard to have it put there, and if it leaves, it would be really hard to get it back again.

I am DEFINITELY no athlete :lol: But I really admire women who can do it! How long has women's hockey been part of the olympics?
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:45 pm

Behshad wrote:They could easily replace womens Hockey in olympics with Mudd Wrestling and it'd have a bigger audience than any events in olympics.

Even knitting would be more fun to watch than womens hockey.

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I wish I had watched it now. But you know that I just got back into hockey the last couple of years, so I never followed the men's hockey in the olympics for years until now. Its been SO fun to watch! And my girls are into it, not the guys in my house. So if the women's hockey is back next year, I WILL watch :) And I wish I had my daughter watch the women's US/Canada game. I really think she would have enjoyed that.

And name ANY sport, male sports included, that men would pick to watch over women mud wrestling :P :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:00 pm

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Rockindeano wrote:Lynn-

I sincerely hope Dan, Behshad and Spongebob are being sarcastic. Women absolutely have a place in he Games and sports in general. I followed the women's hockey and while Behshad's correct in that the US and Canada are the two powers and everyone else tails way off- it's sill good hockey when those two play. IMO, they're so good, that until the world catches up, the gold medal should be a best of 3 between Canada and he USA.

You fellas going to now say Lindsey Vonn shouldn't be able to participate because she is well, a she? How about skier Jenn Heil of Canada? Bonnie Blair sucked too, right? She only won 5 gold medals. Jenn Maricuso sucks too. :roll: And before you knuckleheads bash women's hockey again, tell me Haley Wickenheiser of Canada sucks. Come on now you fuckin' chauvinists. All the women I just mentioned are 5 star athletes. Why the women bashing? I is plain stupid and sounds ridiculous.

Aside from figure skating, which isn't really a sport(it can' be a sport where judges determine the outcome), every women's event is as good as the men's except for hockey, where the power and speed are a huge glaring difference. And oh by the way Behshad, since when in the Hell is the term "tackling" used in a hockey reference? That's soccer you dipshit.

Also, I love tennis, but can anyone here honestly say a men's mach is more exciting than a women's?


It's funny because just a few minutes ago I was watching the Olympics and they showed a little review of the women's hockey games! :lol: And I do get what Behshad means, about it being no competition and kind of boring as far as the OTHER countries, but it looked to me that the US and Canada was a very different thing. They said the game for the Gold was a packed stadium and it looked exciting to me from what they showed.

But what's sad to ME, is that those other countries don't back those women and encourage them and help them to be strong and better and make them feel that people care. I mean for the US and Canada to have 40 something to 2 scores against those other countries is just sad :( It's too bad other countries can't follow North America's example. They are doing something right! And i think it would be equally sad for them to lose the sport for the Olympics. Im sure they had to fight hard to have it put there, and if it leaves, it would be really hard to get it back again.

I am DEFINITELY no athlete :lol: But I really admire women who can do it! How long has women's hockey been part of the olympics?


I think you may be wrong on "other countries" not trying. Sweden and Finland are hockey countries through and through. You have to understand though, that Canada is a special different animal. Hockey is ALL that matters here. If the men don't win the gold, it's over for that nation. Seriously, it means that much to them. It's like what the NFL is to America. The USA women's team is kind of different because they are so good. I would say he country, he people of the USA don' really care if they win gold or no...same as for he men. Oh but since the men are in line for a possible medal, now all of a sudden, here's interest. :roll: Americans are front runners, pure and simple.

I believe women's hockey debuted in 1998 with the US winning the gold over Canada. The last two Olympics, now three, have been won by Canada, however, in Torino in 2006, Canada defeated Sweden, not the US, for the gold. So Sweden is definitely a threat, although a dark horse threat to the US and Canada.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:35 pm

Rockindeano wrote:I think you may be wrong on "other countries" not trying. Sweden and Finland are hockey countries through and through. You have to understand though, that Canada is a special different animal. Hockey is ALL that matters here. If the men don't win the gold, it's over for that nation. Seriously, it means that much to them. It's like what the NFL is to America. The USA women's team is kind of different because they are so good. I would say he country, he people of the USA don' really care if they win gold or no...same as for he men. Oh but since the men are in line for a possible medal, now all of a sudden, here's interest. :roll: Americans are front runners, pure and simple.

I believe women's hockey debuted in 1998 with the US winning the gold over Canada. The last two Olympics, now three, have been won by Canada, however, in Torino in 2006, Canada defeated Sweden, not the US, for the gold. So Sweden is definitely a threat, although a dark horse threat to the US and Canada.


Oh, ok, well I didn't watch, so I was just going by the scores they gave, and it just sounded SO uneven, its seemed like there is something wrong with that.

And I know a lot of American men who follow hockey and love it. But I know you are talking more about the "general american" public when you say no one cared right now until the olympic medal possiblity. The thing that's good about that though, is that helps to attract new fans, and I see that as a good thing. I mean look at the women's soccer team from several years ago now when they got noticed and FINALLY taken seriously after winning the world cup (yes, I know you hate soccer :P :lol: ) But no one cared or even knew we had a women's team or cared and now Mia Hamm is like a household name to a lot of young girls! Sometimes the olympic or the "world's" attention is the exact thing that introduces the sport to people who haven't had that opportunity to realize what a great sport it is. So I'm glad that american's care right now!!!

But I realize that hockey is bigger with men who live up north. I've had more conversations with male friends here now about hockey and it's funny because they are suprised I've been watching the NHL games :lol: I'd say down here in Florida there is little or no interest, unless you are a northern transplant. It's too much of a "winter" sport I guess. I mean the Lightning is here, but I am a Pens fan, being from NW PA. And them doing so well the last couple of seasons is what sucked me in, yes, because I hadn't watch any hockey since I was much younger, before moving here. So I'm really loving the game now. I love watching it. It's just fun! And I've gotten my girls totally into it, to the point where my youngest is begging me to get her hockey lessons :shock: :lol: And I will be following the Pens from here forward even if they become the bottom team in the league. I'm hoping I can catch them at a game in Tampa maybe next season.
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Postby Eric » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:42 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Ever see Lisa Leslie? Put a saddlecloth on her and you'll get 5-2 in the Derby.


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Postby Eric » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:45 pm

I'm dissappointed that women's hockey hasn't really seemed to improve much the last 12 years or so. But after watching the Gold Medal game you have to LOVE how much these girls want to win. They don't have championships to play for in other leagues starting Monday...THIS is IT for them.

Gotta hope some more countries improve though....just not that compelling unless USA/CANADA play.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:17 am

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Also, I love tennis, but can anyone here honestly say a men's mach is more exciting than a women's?


To someone who has played the game all his life, absolutely, unequivocally, yes. Much more skill, variety, athleticism, and tension.

If you ever see the difference in person (presuming you haven't), it's STRIKING how different the two games are. On TV, it looks similar, but it's not at all. But, for both sexes, TV doesn't do their skill justice. You can't tell how big they hit the ball and how athletic they are til you see it in person
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:38 am

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Also, I love tennis, but can anyone here honestly say a men's mach is more exciting than a women's?


To someone who has played the game all his life, absolutely, unequivocally, yes. Much more skill, variety, athleticism, and tension.

If you ever see the difference in person (presuming you haven't), it's STRIKING how different the two games are. On TV, it looks similar, but it's not at all. But, for both sexes, TV doesn't do their skill justice. You can't tell how big they hit the ball and how athletic they are til you see it in person


Oh I agree 100% S-bob. Just saying the men are so good, that i's damned near impossible to return a 135 mph serve and get a volley going. I was speaking for the general audience to watch. I would bet hat you get more back and forth in women's tennis than men's. And who doesn't like or love, looking at Sharipova's ass crack though hose skimpy little outfits? Remember that cutie Martina Hingis? Lile Swiss girl had me bonered up all day long watching her, but her problem was she had o face Predator(Venus Williams) and if she won, she had the good fortune of facing Predator 2 the Sequel(Serena Williams). those two He-Bitches ended little Martina's career! :wink: :)

By the way, my "t" doesn't work all the time, hence the fucked up spelling. So back off BJG. :wink:

PS- Yes Matty, I have seen tennis live. It's like hockey in the fact that it is much better live than on V.
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