2011-2012 NFL Season Thread

[AR]

What a fucking putrid display of NFL games. Holy hell. If someone isn't a fan of the NFL and this is their first exposure, they'll never watch again. This is one of the worse weekend of games I can remember in forever. Between Tim TeBLOW looking fucking clueless against a winless Miami team (who is probably the worse team in the NFL), and Carolina vs. Washington, who can't get out of their own way, and then Cleveland vs. Seattle with Pete the Poodle leading his clueless bunch against a bad Girl Scout team. Lucky me, I get to watch the hapless Colts against the Saints tonight. Oye. Bring on Thanksgiving and Detroit against Green Bay!

Agreed on all counts.

[AlteredDNA]

Jets / San Diego is entertaining

[YoungJRNY]

If the playoffs started today (10.23.11)



Game of the week next week, New England @ Pittsburgh. The next two weeks will pretty much define the 2011 Steelers and probably their hopes and where they stand in the Conference and a potential post-season run. The Steelers next two games is New England/Baltimore at home.

I don't think they can handle New England's high powered offense toe to toe. The Steelers have always struggled with stud, big Tight Ends and Brady will scorch the Steelers defense with them next week IMHO. The Steelers have officially become an air it out attack offense so if they want to beat the Pats, they would have to put up 30, atleast. If we were to lose one of these two games, I'd rather it be New England because Baltimore is an absolute MUST- WIN.

My top 10 power rankings:

1. Green Bay Packers
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2. New England Patriots
3. Baltimore Ravens
4. New Orleans Saints
5. Houston Texans
6. Atlanta Falcons
7. Detroit Lions
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
9. N.Y Giants
10. San Francisco 49'ers

[Enigma869]

If the playoffs started today (10.23.11)



Game of the week next week, New England @ Pittsburgh. The next two weeks will pretty much define the 2011 Steelers and probably their hopes and where they stand in the Conference and a potential post-season run. The Steelers next two games is New England/Baltimore at home.

I don't think they can handle New England's high powered offense toe to toe. The Steelers have always struggled with stud, big Tight Ends and Brady will scorch the Steelers defense with them next week IMHO. The Steelers have officially become an air it out attack offense so if they want to beat the Pats, they would have to put up 30, atleast. If we were to lose one of these two games, I'd rather it be New England because Baltimore is an absolute MUST- WIN.

My top 10 power rankings:

1. Green Bay Packers
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2. New England Patriots
3. Baltimore Ravens
4. New Orleans Saints
5. Houston Texans
6. Atlanta Falcons
7. Detroit Lions
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
9. N.Y Giants
10. San Francisco 49'ers

Interesting rankings. I'll have to ponder this. As for next week, you and I are on the same page. I personally don't believe the Steelers 5-2 record at all. The reality is that out of all 5 teams that they beat this season, not a single one of them has a winning record. They've played two teams with a winning record, and lost both games. The other thing that makes me really question what kind of team they have is I believe they're the only team who actually struggled to beat the woeful Colts this season. I watched that game, and the Steelers shouldn't have won that game. I still think it's a close game, because they usually are. That said, for the first time in quite some time, the Steelers defense doesn't scare me...even a little. Patriots by 7.

[YoungJRNY]

If the playoffs started today (10.23.11)



Game of the week next week, New England @ Pittsburgh. The next two weeks will pretty much define the 2011 Steelers and probably their hopes and where they stand in the Conference and a potential post-season run. The Steelers next two games is New England/Baltimore at home.

I don't think they can handle New England's high powered offense toe to toe. The Steelers have always struggled with stud, big Tight Ends and Brady will scorch the Steelers defense with them next week IMHO. The Steelers have officially become an air it out attack offense so if they want to beat the Pats, they would have to put up 30, atleast. If we were to lose one of these two games, I'd rather it be New England because Baltimore is an absolute MUST- WIN.

My top 10 power rankings:

1. Green Bay Packers
------------------------------

2. New England Patriots
3. Baltimore Ravens
4. New Orleans Saints
5. Houston Texans
6. Atlanta Falcons
7. Detroit Lions
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
9. N.Y Giants
10. San Francisco 49'ers

Interesting rankings. I'll have to ponder this. As for next week, you and I are on the same page. I personally don't believe the Steelers 5-2 record at all. The reality is that out of all 5 teams that they beat this season, not a single one of them has a winning record. They've played two teams with a winning record, and lost both games. The other thing that makes me really question what kind of team they have is I believe they're the only team who actually struggled to beat the woeful Colts this season. I watched that game, and the Steelers shouldn't have won that game. I still think it's a close game, because they usually are. That said, for the first time in quite some time, the Steelers defense doesn't scare me...even a little. Patriots by 7.

I'm not sold on this Steelers team whatsoever. They need to atleast beat a team with a winning record before I believe we are a playoff team. The first couple weeks of the season, the Steelers couldn't keep together a football team to save their life and continue to play without key starters but the pass protection has improved over the past few weeks so that's something to build on if we want to go into a more versatile offense through the air.

Pittsburgh's wideouts are amazing and speed burners, truly great young talent but I too believe there are wrinkles in this Steelers 2011 defense and Brady will exploit them as usual. Plus, it looks as if the Patriots want to get their run-game going as of late and the Steelers, thus far this season, have struggled with balanced teams (Baltimore, Houston.) I'll say New England by 13 at this point.

[squirt1]

Enigma 869- Good point .What a laugh !

[Ehwmatt]

LOL @ Carson Palmer's debut for the Raiders. The pick machine began in earnest

[YoungJRNY]

LOL @ Carson Palmer's debut for the Raiders. The pick machine began in earnest

For a player of his caliber not playing since God knows when and only having FIVE whole days to get ready to play immediately in the NFL, in a new system, let alone the mental and physical aspect of getting banged around and seeing a defense move around for the first time and throwing to people you don't even know, I think Palmer came in and showed his arm strength on a couple throws. He fit some balls in tight windows and a couple of those picks weren't his fault but that pick 6 was a terribly thrown ball. I think when he gets warmed up, which will probably take 5-6 weeks, then he will CERTAINLY be an upgrade over Campbell. I mean, giving what Oakland gave up to get him, he's going to have to get the nod and learn VERY quickly and get back into playing shape.

[Ehwmatt]

What a fucking putrid display of NFL games. Holy hell. If someone isn't a fan of the NFL and this is their first exposure, they'll never watch again. This is one of the worse weekend of games I can remember in forever. Between Tim TeBLOW looking fucking clueless against a winless Miami team (who is probably the worse team in the NFL), and Carolina vs. Washington, who can't get out of their own way, and then Cleveland vs. Seattle with Pete the Poodle leading his clueless bunch against a bad Girl Scout team. Lucky me, I get to watch the hapless Colts against the Saints tonight. Oye. Bring on Thanksgiving and Detroit against Green Bay!

As this season plods on, the lockout hangover seems to be becoming more, and not less apparent as you'd expect it.

There are a LOT of putrid teams out there. Every year, we seem to have a couple horrible teams threatening to go 0-16. This year, there's tons of AWFUL teams. And records don't tell the whole story. There's a lot more to the story than the horrendous 1 or 0 win teams. The Browns, at 3-3, have to be one of the worst 3-3 teams ever. Kansas City at 3-3 isn't much better. Denver's horrible. Seattle at 2-4 is awful. Washington at 3-3 is "flawed," to put it nicely. And we all know how terrible Miami, St Louis, Indy, Arizona, and Jacksonville are.

In fact, the only team I can think of that's "better" than its record is probably Carolina. A lot of talent there - not unlike the Lions teams of the last couple years.

Anyway, the moral of the story is that it's been a boring season to watch. We've barely had any watchable Sunday or Monday night matchups. Sucks.

[Enigma869]

He fit some balls in tight windows

Sounds fucking painful

[YoungJRNY]

Already sick and mother fucking tired of this Tebow BULLSHIT. Never in my life have I seen such coverage on such a pitiful performance for a quarterback between two pitiful teams. Somebody actually said that Tebow was "unreal" and that this was a signature win for the Broncos organization I'm starting to think Tebow has that love potion from "Love Potion #9" because I just don't see a damn good thing about him other than the shotgun, quarterback draw and option. The dude had like, 40 yards the whole game until Miami literally stopped playing with 2:00 left. Two horrible teams and now Tebow is the God again for beating a winless Miami team (poss the worst team in the entire league) that hasn't won a home game in like, 3 years.

[YoungJRNY]

He fit some balls in tight windows

Sounds fucking painful

After reading that over again, I actually winced in pain

[YoungJRNY]

What a fucking putrid display of NFL games. Holy hell. If someone isn't a fan of the NFL and this is their first exposure, they'll never watch again. This is one of the worse weekend of games I can remember in forever. Between Tim TeBLOW looking fucking clueless against a winless Miami team (who is probably the worse team in the NFL), and Carolina vs. Washington, who can't get out of their own way, and then Cleveland vs. Seattle with Pete the Poodle leading his clueless bunch against a bad Girl Scout team. Lucky me, I get to watch the hapless Colts against the Saints tonight. Oye. Bring on Thanksgiving and Detroit against Green Bay!

As this season plods on, the lockout hangover seems to be becoming more, and not less apparent as you'd expect it.

There are a LOT of putrid teams out there. Every year, we seem to have a couple horrible teams threatening to go 0-16. This year, there's tons of AWFUL teams. And records don't tell the whole story. There's a lot more to the story than the horrendous 1 or 0 win teams. The Browns, at 3-3, have to be one of the worst 3-3 teams ever. Kansas City at 3-3 isn't much better. Denver's horrible. Seattle at 2-4 is awful. Washington at 3-3 is "flawed," to put it nicely. And we all know how terrible Miami, St Louis, Indy, Arizona, and Jacksonville are.

In fact, the only team I can think of that's "better" than its record is probably Carolina. A lot of talent there - not unlike the Lions teams of the last couple years.

Anyway, the moral of the story is that it's been a boring season to watch. We've barely had any watchable Sunday or Monday night matchups. Sucks.

I agree. I kind of expected this season to be as sloppy as ever and the injuries were as predicted as well. These players literally got their lazy ass's off the couch and went straight into camp so this year is taking way longer for teams to hit stride when it takes teams a little while to begin with when they actually have OTA's, minicamps, conditioning, etc. Even the elite in this league, and the best teams in the league (Green Bay, New England) is giving up a HUGE chunk of slop and yardage on the defensive side of the ball so IMHO, it's an open league. The WC spots will probably be between 8-9 teams and will come down to week 17. Will be interesting.

[Yoda]

It has been a painful last 20 years as a Washington Redskins fan! Thank God for You Tube though...lol! I can just go on there and type in "Redskins 1984" and find some old games to watch from the "real" teams! You guys who are fans of winning franchises right now, better appreciate every single second of it! Live it up! I just hope my team becomes good again before I'm too old to enjoy it!

[Enigma869]

You guys who are fans of winning franchises right now, better appreciate every single second of it! Live it up!

No need to tell me dude. I get it. I grew up a fan of the NFL (and the Patriots), so I know better. I remember those seasons when winning 3 whole games was an accomplishment. It won't last, and it never does. Most teams don't suck forever (the Bengals notwithstanding). Hell, even the Lions look respectable this season.

As for the bad teams, I don't think the layoff has much to do with it. The Dolphins and Rams were going to suck this season even if they had an extra month of training camp. The larger issue for me is the NFL schedule maker needs to do a MUCH better job putting together Sunday and Monday night games. They should go to the "flex" scheduling for Sunday nights the second it becomes apparent that a team scheduled for a Sunday night is really going to suck (like the Colts). Nobody should be forced to watch that bad of a team on a national level. It's simply no way to showcase the league. Hell, I love football, and had to turn that game off in the first quarter, because it was just that bad!

[YoungJRNY]

You guys who are fans of winning franchises right now, better appreciate every single second of it! Live it up!

No need to tell me dude. I get it. I grew up a fan of the NFL (and the Patriots), so I know better. I remember those seasons when winning 3 whole games was an accomplishment. It won't last, and it never does. Most teams don't suck forever (the Bengals notwithstanding). Hell, even the Lions look respectable this season.

As for the bad teams, I don't think the layoff has much to do with it. The Dolphins and Rams were going to suck this season even if they had an extra month of training camp. The larger issue for me is the NFL schedule maker needs to do a MUCH better job putting together Sunday and Monday night games. They should go to the "flex" scheduling for Sunday nights the second it becomes apparent that a team scheduled for a Sunday night is really going to suck (like the Colts). Nobody should be forced to watch that bad of a team on a national level. It's simply no way to showcase the league. Hell, I love football, and had to turn that game off in the first quarter, because it was just that bad!

Agreed. If you're going to have a "flex schedule" then use it for the entire football season! These last couple weeks have been terrible, just terrible as show-case's for the NFL. It won't get better tonight when the vaunted Jaguars get their National Television exposure . As for last night, I turned it off the second New Orleans scored their second touchdown. No need to watch a game played like it's the first pre-season game of the year.

[Yoda]

You guys who are fans of winning franchises right now, better appreciate every single second of it! Live it up!

No need to tell me dude. I get it. I grew up a fan of the NFL (and the Patriots), so I know better. I remember those seasons when winning 3 whole games was an accomplishment. It won't last, and it never does. Most teams don't suck forever (the Bengals notwithstanding). Hell, even the Lions look respectable this season.

As for the bad teams, I don't think the layoff has much to do with it. The Dolphins and Rams were going to suck this season even if they had an extra month of training camp. The larger issue for me is the NFL schedule maker needs to do a MUCH better job putting together Sunday and Monday night games. They should go to the "flex" scheduling for Sunday nights the second it becomes apparent that a team scheduled for a Sunday night is really going to suck (like the Colts). Nobody should be forced to watch that bad of a team on a national level. It's simply no way to showcase the league. Hell, I love football, and had to turn that game off in the first quarter, because it was just that bad!

I remember those days when I used to see New England on the schedule and automatically considered that a win! Now, I know exactly how it feels to root for the team that goes 0-7 for playing against rookie QBs!

I agree with you on the flex scheduling. Seems like they only do it during the latter part of the year. Heck, Having the Colts already had at least three prime time games?

[conversationpc]

Heck, Having the Colts already had at least three prime time games?

Yep...Two Sunday night games and one Monday nighter, if I recall correctly.

[Enigma869]

Yep...Two Sunday night games and one Monday nighter, if I recall correctly.

They also still have another prime time game against the Patriots later in the season. Not sure how they justify this many prime time games. I get that nobody (including me) thought the Colts would be this awful. That said, they weren't exactly in the Super Bowl last season, so I really don't need to see them quite this much. At this point, only close friends and family should be forced to watch this train wreck!

[Ehwmatt]

I really wish I had a reason to watch this game tonight. Too tired to work, too tired to work out, and girlfriend is helping her parents all night. Normally, that'd translate to watching a game in peace. but I just don't care.

[YoungJRNY]

I really wish I had a reason to watch this game tonight. Too tired to work, too tired to work out, and girlfriend is helping her parents all night. Normally, that'd translate to watching a game in peace. but I just don't care.

Baltimore is VERY LUCKY to be only down by 3. MJD fumbled on the one yard line and Baltimore's offense is probably the worst offense I've ever seen this year thus far. They have like, -10 total yards in the second QRT and have been faced with a 4th and 43! If Jacksonville had any survivable QB, they'd be murdering. Terrible display of football by Flacco and that horrendous offense.

[Enigma869]

Baltimore is VERY LUCKY to be only down by 3. MJD fumbled on the one yard line and Baltimore's offense is probably the worst offense I've ever seen this year thus far. They have like, -10 total yards in the second QRT and have been faced with a 4th and 43! If Jacksonville had any survivable QB, they'd be murdering. Terrible display of football by Flacco and that horrendous offense.

It's a week to week deal in the NFL. Didn't this same pathetic offense you're talking about score 35 points against the vaunted Steelers defense?

[YoungJRNY]

That Scobee is something. One of the best kickers from 50 yards +. Hit a 52 and 54 so far tonight. Impressive.

[YoungJRNY]

Baltimore is VERY LUCKY to be only down by 3. MJD fumbled on the one yard line and Baltimore's offense is probably the worst offense I've ever seen this year thus far. They have like, -10 total yards in the second QRT and have been faced with a 4th and 43! If Jacksonville had any survivable QB, they'd be murdering. Terrible display of football by Flacco and that horrendous offense.

It's a week to week deal in the NFL. Didn't this same pathetic offense you're talking about score 35 points against the vaunted Steelers defense?

How the Ravens played the Steelers in week 1 should never neglect how they are playing against the Jags tonight.

The answer to that is in the beginning of your post. Week to week. Week 1 is so long ago, kind of a blur. I expected the Ravens Super Bowl to be week 1, we all did. Steelers hung 38 points on Tennessee and Baltimore only hung up 13 against Tennessee. Ravens offense, esp Flacco, doesn't impress me one ounce. If it wasn't for the Ravens D scoring 28 or so points against the Jets, the reflection would of been Flacco completing only like, 9 balls all night. Baltimore hasn't yet to covert one first down in the first half against the Jags.

[AR]

My apologies from Baltimore for this stinker of a Monday night game.

[YoungJRNY]

Thanks Jacksonville The AFC NORTH is now wide open. The Steelers have some breathing room now. Even with a loss to New England, all the Steelers need to do is beat Baltimore, in Pittsburgh, take care of their weak second half schedule and the Steelers would win the division via common opponents (Baltimore lost to Tennessee, Pittsburgh beat Tennessee. Baltimore lost to Jacksonville, Pittsburgh beat Jacksonville.) The Steelers just need to beat Balty and go take the North. Huge victory for Pittsburgh tonight.

Time to re-do my power rankings:

1. Green Bay Packers
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2. New England Patriots
3. New Orleans Saints
4. Houston Texans
5. Atlanta Falcons
6. Detroit Lions
7. Pittsburgh Steelers
8. Baltimore Ravens
9. N.Y Giants
10. San Francisco 49'ers

[AR]

You can never tell. After the way the Jags played the Steelers I thought this could be a trap for the Ravens. Packers are winning the Super bowl again though if I have to put my money on it.

[Enigma869]

Packers are winning the Super bowl again though if I have to put my money on it.

If you had to pin me down on October 25th, I'd agree 100%. I'd also give Rodgers the MVP right now. That said, Green Bay's defense is VERY suspect so they could roll out a stinker as well. On this day, I feel like they are going 16-0 this season, because I'm not sure who is going to beat them.

[Enigma869]

TeBLOW kissing a dude. Yuck.









http://www.towleroad.com/2011/10/tim-te ... -kiss.html

[Rick]

TeBLOW kissing a dude. Yuck.









http://www.towleroad.com/2011/10/tim-te ... -kiss.html

WTF??