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Mr Big CD review......

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:44 am
by Deb
I know you're going to get flack, Andrew, but just wanted to let you know I couldn't agree more with your review! :D Although I would have given it a 99% as I can't totally get into Still Ain't Enough For Me. Little too heavy for me and not quite sure I like what KS did with EM's vocals on that. Sounds like he put him through a funnel or something. So I'm docking 1%. :lol:

Especially.........

This album is a masterclass in how to kick ass, how to stay relevant and how to push boundaries without ever selling out what made the band great in the fist place.
Kevin Shirley's live-to-tape production is a revelation, but there might be some that don't take to his bottom-heavy, earthy style. Some have called it muddy, but it really is just "loose". What I hear here is a band on fire and thanks to this production work, I feel as if I'm listening to the guys in concert – just all new tracks. Not everyone is going to agree with me here, but this is perfect to my ears. Welcome back Mr. Big. Now top this!


http://www.melodicrock.com/reviews/reviews.html

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:59 am
by Michigan Girl
Awesome, Deb ...can't wait to hear the whole thing myself!! :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:25 am
by Rockindeano
Let me start by saying I love Andrew more than anyone here, however, I also am willing to tell him how full of shit he is when the time is right. Right now, he is full of shit. What in the Hell possessed you to write this crap?----

This album is a masterclass in how to kick ass, how to stay relevant and how to push boundaries without ever selling out what made the band great in the fist place.

Not to Tito-ize this thread, but let me ask you, doesn't a band have to be relevant in order to stay relevant? Are you smoking crack Andrew? Are your pain meds masking your thinking?

Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months. That being said, if I were to walk the streets of Southern California and ask 100 people if they knew who Mr Big was, I would get about 92 "Get the fuck outta here's," ....4 "who?' and maybe 4 "yes."

Are the boys talented? Surely. Did Kevin Shirley produce the disc? Yep. So what? He has definitely laid eggs in the past(just counting the ones in Journey). Doesn't mean you have Shirley it is an automatic slam dunk.

I have heard the links and cannot seriously it is "special." What the fuck am I missing?

Go ahead, flame away.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:40 am
by Andrew
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:45 am
by Rockindeano
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


Fair enough, however, are you going to elaborate on your "relevancy" smack you just blindly threw out there like Stevie Wonder?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:53 am
by timstar78
I've been a big Mr. Big fan (yes, pun intended) since the S/T album. I've warmed up to "What If," and think it's solid. As expected, the musicianship is off the charts. I wouldn't give it a 100 percent ranking, as I don't think the songs are all there. There are some really good ones, however, and "Undertow" is excellent.

If going by the MR scale, I'd give it a high 80s/low 90s score at this point.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:52 am
by Behshad
Surprise ! Surprise ! :lol:

http://forums.melodicrock.com:/phpBB/vi ... 9&start=90

I predicted this a while back. I've listened to this album enough to know it's a solid 85% at best . The other 15% they gained from wombat is due to friendship/worship between Drewsky & Martin ;)

Deb , I'm not bashing your precious Big ;). I do expect a 100% from any project that invloves Sheehan & Gilbert , but this simply isn't it. Still one of the best albums of the year!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:17 pm
by Deb
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


I surely hope not! :wink: :lol: But they can knock me on my ass! And probably will. :D

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:21 pm
by StevePerryHair
Deb wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


I surely hope not! :wink: :lol: But they can knock me on my ass! And probably will. :D


I can just imagine a floor full of tits :shock: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:23 pm
by Behshad
StevePerryHair wrote:
Deb wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


I surely hope not! :wink: :lol: But they can knock me on my ass! And probably will. :D


I can just imagine a floor full of tits :shock: :lol:



Now that would get 100% from me !!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:33 pm
by StevePerryHair
Behshad wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Deb wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


I surely hope not! :wink: :lol: But they can knock me on my ass! And probably will. :D


I can just imagine a floor full of tits :shock: :lol:



Now that would get 100% from me !!


:lol:

You'd be laying on the floor waiting for them to land on your face no doubt :P :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:37 pm
by Deb
Behshad wrote:Surprise ! Surprise ! :lol:

http://forums.melodicrock.com:/phpBB/vi ... 9&start=90

I predicted this a while back. I've listened to this album enough to know it's a solid 85% at best . The other 15% they gained from wombat is due to friendship/worship between Drewsky & Martin ;)

Deb , I'm not bashing your precious Big ;). I do expect a 100% from any project that invloves Sheehan & Gilbert , but this simply isn't it. Still one of the best albums of the year!


Was just watching the intro in my sig, those 2 are amazing, love when they play off each other like that. :) And yes, EM is just as good, you gotta remember his instrument is an actual body part, and I think his vocals are just as powerful as ever, especially at 50! You think Arnel's got a hard job, try singing over such powerhouses as Sheehan and Gilbert! :lol:

And do I have truly thoughtful music friends or what........got this in an email from a friend that was at NAMM this weekend........and Paul's too. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:55 pm
by Andrew
Behshad wrote:
I predicted this a while back. I've listened to this album enough to know it's a solid 85% at best . The other 15% they gained from wombat is due to friendship/worship between Drewsky & Martin ;)


Hardly. You should note some other Mr. Big/EM scores before presuming this. I've never given either a 100 before now.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:02 pm
by Behshad
Andrew wrote:
Behshad wrote:
I predicted this a while back. I've listened to this album enough to know it's a solid 85% at best . The other 15% they gained from wombat is due to friendship/worship between Drewsky & Martin ;)


Hardly. You should note some other Mr. Big/EM scores before presuming this. I've never given either a 100 before now.



That's cause you & Martin weren't friends back then ;)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:06 pm
by Rick
Rockindeano wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


Fair enough, however, are you going to elaborate on your "relevancy" smack you just blindly threw out there like Stevie Wonder?


Did you read some of the reviews on down the page? He cut some of those records to shreds. It was great reading. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:08 pm
by Deb
Andrew wrote:
Behshad wrote:
I predicted this a while back. I've listened to this album enough to know it's a solid 85% at best . The other 15% they gained from wombat is due to friendship/worship between Drewsky & Martin ;)


Hardly. You should note some other Mr. Big/EM scores before presuming this. I've never given either a 100 before now.


LOL can attest to that. It's rare, but I have disagreed with you once or twice. :lol: I thought EM's Soul Sessions compilation should have gotten much more than a 75%. :wink: :P Martin's at his absolute best vocally on this soulful/pop/R&B stuff. Hellloooooo?........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trI1WOHFMWo

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:10 pm
by kgdjpubs
I still say a "100" album should be one where EVERY song is a classic. I have never heard that before in an album, and find it highly unlikely that I ever will. Closest I think I've ever heard was about 3-4 songs that would rate "10/10" for me.

For this album, good? yes. Very good? maybe. Every song a classic? I don't think so. I don't think I hear any 10/10, although maybe some 9/10 songs.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:23 pm
by Rockindeano
Hate me all you want assholes, But Born to Run is a 100. 8 out of fucking 8 is perfect,


Oh, and there are more out there besides BTR.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:42 am
by Deb
:)

From Billy Sheehan's wall:

"Once in a while I get a not so bad review, but this one left me speechless: Review of new Mr Big record: http://www.melodicrock.com/reviews/reviews.html "

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:00 am
by Behshad
Deb wrote::)

From Billy Sheehan's wall:

"Once in a while I get a not so bad review, but this one left me speechless: Review of new Mr Big record: http://www.melodicrock.com/reviews/reviews.html "



See?! Even Sheehan is as surprised as I am :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:04 am
by Ehwmatt
The John Waite review:

Andrew wrote:But the real brilliance comes in the shape of Shadows Of Love – classic John Waite that could easily have been lifted from No Brakes, Ignition or even Mask Of Smiles. That vocal where John almost speaks, yet oozes melody is hard to top. Funny though, that one of the album's best tracks comes as an unreleased tracks from the past.


Damn man, I haven't read all the reviews or heard the CD yet, but that song BLOWS. If that's the best, there's no way it's an 87% :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:10 pm
by Deb
Andrew wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Now I am not a Mr Big hater and am actually looking forward to their show here in LA in 2 months.


Get back to me after that show. They will knock your tits off.


:lol: Better invest in a bra Andrew, you just might be going to one too. :wink: :) Billy talks about pencilling in Australia and stuff, around the 00:55 mark.
Considering these 4 haven't played together in the US in well over 15 years and individually or collectively have worked/played with just about everybody, I'll bet the LA show is going to be attended by some of the peers from LA. They start their Japan tour 5 days later, so I'm hoping for a real mix of jamming MB tunes as a one-off warm up for their Japan leg. :D

Billy at NAMM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTOi8alt ... re=related

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:45 pm
by kgdjpubs
what I'm interested in seeing is his review for the new Magnum album. He's a self-professed huge fan of the band, but has been less than thrilled with the reunion albums--not that I totally disagree with him. The diehards seem to love it, which is an amazing feet since I've never seen a fanbase with more differing opinions on how to rate the back catalog than Magnum fans. Never seen a band that deviated style so much from album to album either. Be interested to see the wombat's thoughts on this one.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:24 pm
by Andrew
kgdjpubs wrote:what I'm interested in seeing is his review for the new Magnum album. He's a self-professed huge fan of the band, but has been less than thrilled with the reunion albums--not that I totally disagree with him. The diehards seem to love it, which is an amazing feet since I've never seen a fanbase with more differing opinions on how to rate the back catalog than Magnum fans. Never seen a band that deviated style so much from album to album either. Be interested to see the wombat's thoughts on this one.


Coming right up....

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:24 pm
by kgdjpubs
Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:what I'm interested in seeing is his review for the new Magnum album. He's a self-professed huge fan of the band, but has been less than thrilled with the reunion albums--not that I totally disagree with him. The diehards seem to love it, which is an amazing feet since I've never seen a fanbase with more differing opinions on how to rate the back catalog than Magnum fans. Never seen a band that deviated style so much from album to album either. Be interested to see the wombat's thoughts on this one.


Coming right up....


this should be interesting. btw, did you ever pick up the Jimmy Barnes Rage & Ruin cd?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:10 pm
by Deb
kgdjpubs wrote:
Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:what I'm interested in seeing is his review for the new Magnum album. He's a self-professed huge fan of the band, but has been less than thrilled with the reunion albums--not that I totally disagree with him. The diehards seem to love it, which is an amazing feet since I've never seen a fanbase with more differing opinions on how to rate the back catalog than Magnum fans. Never seen a band that deviated style so much from album to album either. Be interested to see the wombat's thoughts on this one.


Coming right up....


this should be interesting. btw, did you ever pick up the Jimmy Barnes Rage & Ruin cd?


I was wondering if that INXS tribute album was any good? :lol:

10%

Inxs – Original Sin – Sony – Utterly horrendous. It's pretty obvious who ran this band, as since Michael Hutchence's untimely death, this band has made more shitty decisions than Gene Simmons has made marketing moves. To name the highlights, they screw up working with Jon Stevens, blew all the momentum they had with JD Fortune and now this regurgitated 'remixed' hits collection. This is horrible and is of zero credibility for those that loved the band's studio albums. All these songs have been programmed to the hilt with sequencing, dance beats and effects filled vocals. Utter utter shite! Great songs ruined beyond recognition and average songs brought back to life with crap guest vocals. Even the Rob Thomas version of Original Sin has been slaughtered. How is that possible? Only 1 song here of any redeeming value and that is JD Fortune's version of The Stairs. The rest is complete manure.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:35 pm
by Andrew
kgdjpubs wrote:
Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:what I'm interested in seeing is his review for the new Magnum album. He's a self-professed huge fan of the band, but has been less than thrilled with the reunion albums--not that I totally disagree with him. The diehards seem to love it, which is an amazing feet since I've never seen a fanbase with more differing opinions on how to rate the back catalog than Magnum fans. Never seen a band that deviated style so much from album to album either. Be interested to see the wombat's thoughts on this one.


Coming right up....


this should be interesting. btw, did you ever pick up the Jimmy Barnes Rage & Ruin cd?


Sorry, I can't even stand to listen to that guy anymore. I will try....but seriously. Him and his bloody offspring and fricking everywhere down here and they'd turn up to the opening of an envelope. Just so utterly sick of them all - and Jimmy screams too much these days.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:04 pm
by kgdjpubs
Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
this should be interesting. btw, did you ever pick up the Jimmy Barnes Rage & Ruin cd?


Sorry, I can't even stand to listen to that guy anymore. I will try....but seriously. Him and his bloody offspring and fricking everywhere down here and they'd turn up to the opening of an envelope. Just so utterly sick of them all - and Jimmy screams too much these days.



there probably ARE benefits in living somewhere where you don't get someone shoved at you all the time. As far as family, I'd get sick of them pretty quickly. One fairly good drummer and one good backing singer, and that's it for musical talent.

Not a lot of screaming on the last 2 albums, and some very good melodic rock songwriting especially on the new one. Not really hard rock, but melodic rock and he's bringing in some good outside writing talent to collaborate with. It's worth a listen.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:14 pm
by kgdjpubs
Deb wrote:
I was wondering if that INXS tribute album was any good? :lol:

10%

Inxs – Original Sin – Sony – Utterly horrendous. It's pretty obvious who ran this band, as since Michael Hutchence's untimely death, this band has made more shitty decisions than Gene Simmons has made marketing moves. To name the highlights, they screw up working with Jon Stevens, blew all the momentum they had with JD Fortune and now this regurgitated 'remixed' hits collection. This is horrible and is of zero credibility for those that loved the band's studio albums. All these songs have been programmed to the hilt with sequencing, dance beats and effects filled vocals. Utter utter shite! Great songs ruined beyond recognition and average songs brought back to life with crap guest vocals. Even the Rob Thomas version of Original Sin has been slaughtered. How is that possible? Only 1 song here of any redeeming value and that is JD Fortune's version of The Stairs. The rest is complete manure.



sounds like I would be better off waiting for the Matchbox 20 album to hear Rob Thomas if even he can't save this album. Not his fault, but that one was pretty much ruined by the changes they did.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:53 pm
by Deb
kgdjpubs wrote:what I'm interested in seeing is his review for the new Magnum album. He's a self-professed huge fan of the band, but has been less than thrilled with the reunion albums--not that I totally disagree with him. The diehards seem to love it, which is an amazing feet since I've never seen a fanbase with more differing opinions on how to rate the back catalog than Magnum fans. Never seen a band that deviated style so much from album to album either. Be interested to see the wombat's thoughts on this one.


http://www.melodicrock.com/reviews/reviews.html


And, there's a new Matchbox 20 album coming? Great news. Love this dvd Show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AucmxNQ6o8
Rob's another one that I like his delivery. Whether it's a rocker or ballad, he always throws the song down with passion or emotion.