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Sad for this to happen to anyone.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/michelle-dugga ... 38891.html

Michelle Duggar Miscarries: 'I Feel Like My Heart Broke Telling My Children'

The Duggars were given heartbreaking news on Thursday.

According to People, during a routine check-up where Jim Bob and Michelle were supposed to find out the sex of their 20th child, their doctor was unable to find the baby's heartbeat. Michelle was told that she had miscarried in her second trimester.

"After the appointment, we came back home and told the children," the 45-year-old mother of 19 told the mag. "We had just been talking about baby names last night and they were getting excited about naming a boy or a girl. It has been a real sad disappointment."

Jim Bob also released a statment confirming the tragic news to Access Hollywood , saying, "Earlier today at a routine doctor's appointment, Michelle and I received the sad news that we lost the baby. Michelle is resting comfortably at home with the support of the entire family. We are grateful for all the thoughts and prayers, but ask for privacy during this difficult time."

The Duggar matriarch said they will still name the baby after they find out of it was a boy or a girl and they plan to hold a funeral service.

"I feel like my heart broke telling my children," she continued. "They have all been so excited about this baby and looking forward to April coming around and having a new little one in our arms. That was the most difficult. The Lord is the giver of life and he can choose when that life is ready to go on and be with Him."

This is Michelle's second miscarriage. She previously lost a baby during her second pregnancy, when she was reportedly taking oral birth control. According to the mag, this incident caused the couple to let the number of children they have be "up to God."

Who?

The sad mother of 19? Are you friggin kidding me? No doubt a miscarrage is a sad event, but she should've stopped at 2!!

brandonx76 wrote:The sad mother of 19? Are you friggin kidding me? No doubt a miscarrage is a sad event, but she should've stopped at 2!!

Bullcrap...As long as they can take care of them, it's no one's business to tell them otherwise. By all accounts, their children are all pretty well adjusted, well-behaved, and educated and they are not taking government assistance to accomplish it. They're a good example of what an American family should be doing to raise their own children.

conversationpc wrote:

brandonx76 wrote:The sad mother of 19? Are you friggin kidding me? No doubt a miscarrage is a sad event, but she should've stopped at 2!!

Bullcrap...As long as they can take care of them, it's no one's business to tell them otherwise. By all accounts, their children are all pretty well adjusted, well-behaved, and educated and they are not taking government assistance to accomplish it. They're a good example of what an American family should be doing to raise their own children.

Sorry to hear their loss. And I am glad they are such a great family. They will have each other to hold through it.

I guess they finally wore that thing out.

My ex and I lost a baby to a miscarriage. It's just a terrible feeling. Sorry to hear that.

I am sorry that happened. The only thing that disturbs me is the girls are not encouraged to go out on their own. The older girls are well of age to hold a job, go to college, etc, but instead they are being used as baby sitters.The only way they'll ever get to leave the house is if they marry and i don't even them being encouraged to even do that. Not that you should have to get married to leave the house.

Probably religous nutjobs.

Duncan wrote:Probably religous nutjobs.

Seconds away............

Ding Ding!!!!

Round 2.

I'm really trying to behave myself in this thread, but it's not easy... ScaryGirl makes great points, and I've seen a special on TV describing how young ladies in their movement find mates. They don't really date - they do something called "courting", where they are basically chaperoned and can't even hold hands or kiss until the wedding day.

Also, there is also that whole issue about letting God decide how many kids they'll have. Is a miscarriage his rough way of telling people to stop, and will they even accept that as a sign?

The Duggars don't have shit on this family.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... ndchildren

Rick wrote:The Duggars don't have shit on this family.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... ndchildren

Dang... and all that came from one sperm sac... Imagine if every family bred like this. The global population would be unsustainable by the second generation.

conversationpc wrote:

brandonx76 wrote:The sad mother of 19? Are you friggin kidding me? No doubt a miscarrage is a sad event, but she should've stopped at 2!!

and they are not taking government assistance to accomplish it. They're a good example of what an American family should be doing to raise their own children.

Way to attempt to turn this into a political discussion...if you are even being remotely serious...I'll just say that there's no need to have that many children...I would question the sanity of a couple that had any more than 5 kids in this day in age..You know the saying don't be greedy? I think that applies here.

It is written, He who dips his wick must pay for the oil.

I'm wondering though, when is the individual soul/spirit created as by the seventh day God had completed all his work.

Rip Rokken wrote:I'm really trying to behave myself in this thread, but it's not easy... ScaryGirl makes great points, and I've seen a special on TV describing how young ladies in their movement find mates. They don't really date - they do something called "courting", where they are basically chaperoned and can't even hold hands or kiss until the wedding day.

Also, there is also that whole issue about letting God decide how many kids they'll have. Is a miscarriage his rough way of telling people to stop, and will they even accept that as a sign?

Have you never heard that expression... courting... before this situation? My mom used it often as a synonym for dating. I think it's an older term for the same thing, it's just that the rules were a little (or a lot, depending on the couple) different back in the 40's when she was doing it.

I'm just imagining how stretched out her pussy is.

These conversations are hysterical. Without knowing all the facts this poor family who has just lost a child has been accused of all kinds of things. If they want a large family and can afford it who are you to judge? Now if she is unable to have more that is for them and their doctor to decide. I personally cannot afford to have more than two, so two is all I had. I really don't want to care for more. But some moms love to raise lots of kids. Religious or not. By the way, that faith might just help them through the loss, regardless of what YOU think.

Seriously who died and made us the family size police?

Now I can see if it is Octomom who is expecting the world to pay for her children, but a happy family who can afford it? No, we have to make fun and run them down.

donnaplease wrote:Have you never heard that expression... courting... before this situation? My mom used it often as a synonym for dating. I think it's an older term for the same thing, it's just that the rules were a little (or a lot, depending on the couple) different back in the 40's when she was doing it.

Of course, but like you mention, things were different back in the 40's. I think people who force such an out of date lifestyle only set their children up for failure in the real world. They won't be able to relate to anyone outside their tight-knit little sect. And not holding hands or kissing is sexual repression to the extreme. There is NO WAY those boys aren't jacking off somewhere... I don't think the body can handle the build up of reproductive fluids without some kind of regular release. If they actually could, I'm suspicious that there would be long term negative health repercussions.

artist4perry wrote:If they want a large family and can afford it who are you to judge? Now if she is unable to have more that is for them and their doctor to decide.

I thought they said it was for God to decide. Now they've lost two, and my prediction is within a few months they'll be eagerly announcing to the press that she's pregnant again. They are obviously addicted to this...

artist4perry wrote:Seriously who died and made us the family size police?

Now I can see if it is Octomom who is expecting the world to pay for her children, but a happy family who can afford it? No, we have to make fun and run them down.

First, it's out of concern that they are raising Stepford kids - and that seems to be the case. If this was mainstream practice, especially in Christian circles, that might be different. But their Quiver Full movement is just another odd offshoot of the faith, and it isolates them. The 'celebrity' aspect gives them some social viability, which goes for Octomom, too. Both families pay for their huge families by exploiting the spectacle of them with reality shows, etc. Is that a healthy environment for kids to be raised in, with cameras in front of their faces all the time? If anything, it just helps them become better actors.

Rip Rokken wrote:

artist4perry wrote:If they want a large family and can afford it who are you to judge? Now if she is unable to have more that is for them and their doctor to decide.

I thought they said it was for God to decide. Now they've lost two, and my prediction is within a few months they'll be eagerly announcing to the press that she's pregnant again. They are obviously addicted to this...

artist4perry wrote:Seriously who died and made us the family size police?

Now I can see if it is Octomom who is expecting the world to pay for her children, but a happy family who can afford it? No, we have to make fun and run them down.

First, it's out of concern that they are raising Stepford kids - and that seems to be the case. If this was mainstream practice, especially in Christian circles, that might be different. But their Quiver Full movement is just another odd offshoot of the faith, and it isolates them. The 'celebrity' aspect gives them some social viability, which goes for Octomom, too. Both families pay for their huge families by exploiting the spectacle of them with reality shows, etc. Is that a healthy environment for kids to be raised in, with cameras in front of their faces all the time? If anything, it just helps them become better actors.

I was not aware at the time it was a family that had a show. I first think that is bad for any family, I have not seen one who has not been affected by the constant scrutiny of the public. People are cruel and say mean things all the time because it has become the pass time of our nation.

I thought you were just talking about a large family. So you can see what I was saying about it not really mattering to us how large a family is.

I don't watch crap like that because it is crap and it does harm the families involved. But we do these kids no kindness by tearing their family apart like we were speculating on a sports team.

Turn off the show, and let the ratings drop so the family can go back to real reality.

Ginger, your new signature is a travesty.

And quite pathetic. Most places aren't saying no one can't say 'Chrsitmas'...they just aren't sanctioning it. Like the government not financing(sanctioning) abortions. You can STILL get one, but you must pay for your own.

Christmas has been corporate/commercial for 40 years....according to the constellations that were referenced in The Greatest Fairy Tale never Told, 'Jesus' wasn't born anywhere near December.

In a related story, I can't make fart noises with my hand/armpit anymore - I guess 'god' thought it was time that skill was taken from me....

S2M wrote:Ginger, your new signature is a travesty.

And quite pathetic. Most places aren't saying no one can't say 'Chrsitmas'...they just aren't sanctioning it. Like the government not financing(sanctioning) abortions. You can STILL get one, but you must pay for your own.

Christmas has been corporate/commercial for 40 years....according to the constellations that were referenced in The Greatest Fairy Tale never Told, 'Jesus' wasn't born anywhere near December.

In a related story, I can't make fart noises with my hand/armpit anymore - I guess 'god' thought it was time that skill was taken from me....

It was cute, I liked it, and you can stick it. I don't celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday you putz.

It is funny. Take you PC stupidity elsewhere.

S2M wrote:
In a related story, I can't make fart noises with my hand/armpit anymore - I guess 'god' thought it was time that skill was taken from me....

Na, he reckons your mouth made up for the shortfall

artist4perry wrote:

Rip Rokken wrote:

artist4perry wrote:If they want a large family and can afford it who are you to judge? Now if she is unable to have more that is for them and their doctor to decide.

I thought they said it was for God to decide. Now they've lost two, and my prediction is within a few months they'll be eagerly announcing to the press that she's pregnant again. They are obviously addicted to this...

artist4perry wrote:Seriously who died and made us the family size police?

Now I can see if it is Octomom who is expecting the world to pay for her children, but a happy family who can afford it? No, we have to make fun and run them down.

First, it's out of concern that they are raising Stepford kids - and that seems to be the case. If this was mainstream practice, especially in Christian circles, that might be different. But their Quiver Full movement is just another odd offshoot of the faith, and it isolates them. The 'celebrity' aspect gives them some social viability, which goes for Octomom, too. Both families pay for their huge families by exploiting the spectacle of them with reality shows, etc. Is that a healthy environment for kids to be raised in, with cameras in front of their faces all the time? If anything, it just helps them become better actors.

I was not aware at the time it was a family that had a show. I first think that is bad for any family, I have not seen one who has not been affected by the constant scrutiny of the public. People are cruel and say mean things all the time because it has become the pass time of our nation.

I thought you were just talking about a large family. So you can see what I was saying about it not really mattering to us how large a family is.

I don't watch crap like that because it is crap and it does harm the families involved. But we do these kids no kindness by tearing their family apart like we were speculating on a sports team.

Turn off the show, and let the ratings drop so the family can go back to real reality.

Real reality, really

S2M wrote:In a related story, I can't make fart noises with my hand/armpit anymore - I guess 'god' thought it was time that skill was taken from me....

I noticed the same thing a few years back. Was really disappointed!

artist4perry wrote:I was not aware at the time it was a family that had a show. I first think that is bad for any family, I have not seen one who has not been affected by the constant scrutiny of the public. People are cruel and say mean things all the time because it has become the pass time of our nation.

The name of the show is "19 Kids (and Counting)", and just the name seems to be a set-up for popping out more kids. Her last live one was in Children's Hospital for a long time, and they made the cover of a major mag over her statement that they'd consider trying again. It's a sickness.

Rip Rokken wrote:Of course, but like you mention, things were different back in the 40's. I think people who force such an out of date lifestyle only set their children up for failure in the real world. They won't be able to relate to anyone outside their tight-knit little sect. And not holding hands or kissing is sexual repression to the extreme. There is NO WAY those boys aren't jacking off somewhere... I don't think the body can handle the build up of reproductive fluids without some kind of regular release.

They could go blind!

Rip Rokken wrote: If they actually could, I'm suspicious that there would be long term negative health repercussions.

Rip Rokken wrote:The name of the show is "19 Kids (and Counting)", and just the name seems to be a set-up for popping out more kids. Her last live one was in Children's Hospital for a long time, and they made the cover of a major mag over her statement that they'd consider trying again. It's a sickness.

D-D-D-Down with the sickness!!!!

brandonx76 wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

brandonx76 wrote:The sad mother of 19? Are you friggin kidding me? No doubt a miscarrage is a sad event, but she should've stopped at 2!!

and they are not taking government assistance to accomplish it. They're a good example of what an American family should be doing to raise their own children.

Way to attempt to turn this into a political discussion...if you are even being remotely serious...I'll just say that there's no need to have that many children...I would question the sanity of a couple that had any more than 5 kids in this day in age..You know the saying don't be greedy? I think that applies here.

Umm...You're the one that turned this into what you think they should or shouldn't do. No one gives a flying crap what you think they need to have. My point is if they can through their own efforts take care of however many children they have, it doesn't really matter how many they have.

majik wrote:

artist4perry wrote:

Rip Rokken wrote:

artist4perry wrote:If they want a large family and can afford it who are you to judge? Now if she is unable to have more that is for them and their doctor to decide.

I thought they said it was for God to decide. Now they've lost two, and my prediction is within a few months they'll be eagerly announcing to the press that she's pregnant again. They are obviously addicted to this...

artist4perry wrote:Seriously who died and made us the family size police?

Now I can see if it is Octomom who is expecting the world to pay for her children, but a happy family who can afford it? No, we have to make fun and run them down.

First, it's out of concern that they are raising Stepford kids - and that seems to be the case. If this was mainstream practice, especially in Christian circles, that might be different. But their Quiver Full movement is just another odd offshoot of the faith, and it isolates them. The 'celebrity' aspect gives them some social viability, which goes for Octomom, too. Both families pay for their huge families by exploiting the spectacle of them with reality shows, etc. Is that a healthy environment for kids to be raised in, with cameras in front of their faces all the time? If anything, it just helps them become better actors.

I was not aware at the time it was a family that had a show. I first think that is bad for any family, I have not seen one who has not been affected by the constant scrutiny of the public. People are cruel and say mean things all the time because it has become the pass time of our nation.

I thought you were just talking about a large family. So you can see what I was saying about it not really mattering to us how large a family is.

I don't watch crap like that because it is crap and it does harm the families involved. But we do these kids no kindness by tearing their family apart like we were speculating on a sports team.

Turn off the show, and let the ratings drop so the family can go back to real reality.

Real reality, really

As opposed to the so called fake reality that they refer to as reality. Not to be confused with realty.