OT: Concert Attendance Figures -- Might be of Interest

[bugsymalone]

This was posted on another board. I thought it was interesting.

Bugsy

The following are a few select recent heavy metal/hard rock concert attendance figures, as reported by Billboard magazine:

Artist/Event: BLACK LABEL SOCIETY, BRAND NEW SIN
Venue: Electric Factory
City/State: Philadelphia, Pa.
Date: Oct. 22, 2005
Attendance: 1,758
Capacity: 2,250

Artist/Event: BLACK LABEL SOCIETY
Venue: Hampton Beach Casino
City/State: Hampton, N.H.
Date: Oct. 29, 2005
Attendance: 2,200
Capacity: 2,200

Artist/Event: BLACK LABEL SOCIETY, BRAND NEW SIN
Venue: Avalon Ballroom
City/State: Boston, Mass.
Date: Oct. 25, 2005
Attendance: 1,540
Capacity: 1,951

Artist/Event: JUDAS PRIEST, ANTHRAX
Venue: E Center
City/State: West Valley City, Utah
Date: Oct. 26, 2005
Attendance: 3,456
Capacity: 4,600

Artist/Event: JUDAS PRIEST
Venue: ipayOne Center at the Sports Arena
City/State: San Diego, Calif.
Date: Oct. 29, 2005
Attendance: 3,809
Capacity: 5,249

Artist/Event: KROKUS
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Sept. 21, 2005
Attendance: 96
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: KREATOR
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: April 11, 2005
Attendance: 143
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: STRATOVARIUS, INTO ETERNITY
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Sept. 27, 2005
Attendance: 233
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: OBITUARY, NAPALM DEATH
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Sept. 10, 2005
Attendance: 288
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: SOULFLY, THROWDOWN, BLOODSIMPLE
Venue: Axis
City/State: Boston, Mass.
Date: Oct. 26, 2005
Attendance: 350
Capacity: 650

Artist/Event: STRYPER, HOUSE OF HEROES
Venue: Paradise
City/State: Boston, Mass.
Date: Oct. 27, 2005
Attendance: 524
Capacity: 653

Artist/Event: HAMMERFALL, EDGUY, INTO ETERNITY
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Aug. 19, 2005
Attendance: 302
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: W.A.S.P., L.A. GUNS
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: July 10, 2005
Attendance: 395
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: YNGWIE MALMSTEEN
Venue: Meridian
City/State: Houston, Texas
Date: Nov. 2, 2005
Attendance: 481
Capacity: 985

Artist/Event: STRYPER, COMPLEX MOLD
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Sept. 29, 2005
Attendance: 435
Capacity: 600

Artist/Event: FEAR FACTORY, IT DIES TODAY, STRAPPING YOUNG LAD, DARKANE
Venue: The Quest
City/State: Minneapolis, Minn.
Date: Oct. 31, 2005
Attendance: 830
Capacity: 1,650

Artist/Event: DANZIG, CHIMAIRA, BEHEMOTH, HIMSA, MORTIIS
Venue: Verizon Wireless Theater
City/State: Houston, Texas
Date: Oct. 25, 2005
Attendance: 813
Capacity: 1,510

Artist/Event: WHITESNAKE, SUPAGROUP
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: July 31, 2005
Attendance: 567
Capacity: 1,200

Artist/Event: MANOWAR, RHAPSODY
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: June 2, 2005
Attendance: 608
Capacity: 1,200

Artist/Event: GWAR, DEVILDRIVER, A DOZEN FURIES, MENSREA
Venue: The Quest
City/State: Minneapolis, Minn.
Date: Nov. 4, 2005
Attendance: 1,228
Capacity: 1,650

Artist/Event: GWAR, DEVILDRIVER, A DOZEN FURIES, MENSREA
Venue: Electric Factory
City/State: Philadelphia, Pa.
Date: Oct. 23, 2005
Attendance: 1,672
Capacity: 2,250

Artist/Event: QUEENSRŸCHE
Venue: Stranahan Theatre
City/State: Toledo, Ohio
Date: Oct. 2, 2005
Attendance: 840
Capacity: 2,000

Artist/Event: ROB ZOMBIE, MASTODON
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: July 22, 2005
Attendance: 1,200
Capacity: 1,200

Artist/Event: WHITESNAKE, GREG BILLINGS BAND
Venue: Ruth Eckerd Hall
City/State: Clearwater, Fla.
Date: Aug. 10, 2005
Attendance: 996
Capacity: 1,913

Artist/Event: DEEP PURPLE, MOUNTAIN
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: June 14, 2005
Attendance: 1,200
Capacity: 1,200

Artist/Event: ALICE COOPER
Venue: The Grove of Anaheim
City/State: Anaheim, Calif.
Date: Oct. 31, 2005
Attendance: 1,470
Capacity: 1,700

Artist/Event: SLIPKNOT, UNEARTH, THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Oct. 16, 2005
Attendance: 1,200
Capacity: 1,200

Artist/Event: SLIPKNOT, AS I LAY DYING, UNEARTH
Venue: State Theatre
City/State: Detroit, Mich.
Date: Oct. 24, 2005
Attendance: 2,264
Capacity: 2,900

Artist/Event: VELVET REVOLVER, HOOBASTANK
Venue: E Center
City/State: West Valley City, Utah
Date: April 25, 2005
Attendance: 3,373
Capacity: 6,200

Artist/Event: ALICE COOPER, SUPAGROUP
Venue: Ruth Eckerd Hall
City/State: Clearwater, Fla.
Date: Sept. 29, 2005
Attendance: 1,611
Capacity: 1,982

Artist/Event: SAMMY HAGAR, MONTROSE
Venue: DTE Energy Music Center
City/State: Clarkston, Mich.
Date: Aug. 6, 2005
Attendance: 15,401
Capacity: 15,401

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: Louisville Gardens, Mary Helen Byck Arena
City/State: Louisville, Ky.
Date: Oct. 26, 2005
Attendance: 3,380
Capacity: 5,236

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD
Venue: Smirnoff Music Centre
City/State: Dallas, Texas
Date: Oct. 29, 2005
Attendance: 2,959
Capacity: 6,893

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
City/State: Selma, Texas
Date: Oct. 30, 2005
Attendance: 6,824
Capacity: 8,132

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: Tingley Coliseum
City/State: Albuquerque, N.M.
Date: Nov. 2, 2005
Attendance: 4,779
Capacity: 8,294

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: Nationwide Arena
City/State: Columbus, Ohio
Date: Oct. 27, 2005
Attendance: 5,284
Capacity: 9,230

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: Van Andel Arena
City/State: Grand Rapids, Mich.
Date: Oct. 24, 2005
Attendance: 7,278
Capacity: 10,588

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: ipayOne Center at the Sports Arena
City/State: San Diego, Calif.
Date: Nov. 4, 2005
Attendance: 7,095
Capacity: 9,890

Artist/Event: DEF LEPPARD, CHEAP TRICK
Venue: Magness Arena
City/State: Denver, Colo.
Date: Nov. 1, 2005
Attendance: 5,221
Capacity: 5,523

Artist/Event: AEROSMITH, LENNY KRAVITZ
Venue: MCI Center
City/State: Washington, D.C.
Date: Nov. 3, 2005
Attendance: 12,501
Capacity: 12,501

Artist/Event: AEROSMITH, LENNY KRAVITZ
Venue: Mohegan Sun Arena
City/State: Uncasville, Conn.
Date: Oct. 30, Nov. 1, 2005
Attendance: 16,243
Capacity: 16,998

[styxfanNH]

looks like a lot of classic groups play the same size venue as Styx does. Seems like an overall genre issue.

[jrnyman28]

Did ya notice Sammy?!!? Not too shabby!

[bugsymalone]

Coupla things surprised me. Def Leppard/Cheap Trick. I would think these might sell out and they didn't -- though they got nice numbers on a few occasions.

Velvet Revolver/Hoobastank. Well, at least for that one listed, surpisingly small numbers.

And poor Krokus!! OY!

Bugsy

[gr8dane]

Did ya notice Sammy?!!? Not too shabby!

Well done indeed.
I would have loved to see this one, with him back with Ronnie Montrose.
The 2 first Montrose albums were amazing (still are) when they came out.

[Rockindeano]

Coupla things surprised me. Def Leppard/Cheap Trick. I would think these might sell out and they didn't -- though they got nice numbers on a few occasions.

But if you look at the Bryan Adams/Def leppard, they do sellout...Guess Adams is the key..

[DarwinNebraska]

That Sammy was a Montrose reunion thing that only did a few shows together.

[Zan]

And poor Krokus!! OY!

Even funnier still - I was told on Friday night that I sounded just like the lead singer of Krokus on my version of "Ballroom Blitz." ha!

[ek88]

Where did the 10+ million people go that bought Pyromania and Hysteria????

[PsychoSy]

Artist/Event: HAMMERFALL, EDGUY, INTO ETERNITY
Venue: House of Blues
City/State: Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Aug. 19, 2005
Attendance: 302
Capacity: 600

That's a damned shame. Hammerfall and Edguy could sell out a 2,000-3,000 cap venue (or come pretty damn close) if they'd get as much airplay as Slipknot.

[Jeremey]

Regarding HOB Cleveland, I wonder why they have 2 different capacity figures...The 600 figure must be lower level only, as balcony is reserved seating. We did around four hundred seventy something last weekend there, which, in looking at some of the figures above, makes me feel pretty damned good!

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Jeremey says:

Regarding HOB Cleveland, I wonder why they have 2 different capacity figures...The 600 figure must be lower level only, as balcony is reserved seating. We did around four hundred seventy something last weekend there, which, in looking at some of the figures above, makes me feel pretty damned good!

I bet you're right with the capacity figures and what level/s are open.

When Styx played at the HOB in Cleveland (1/26/05), the capacity was 1,200, they sold 660 tickets @ $40.00 each.

No offense, but compared with a national band you did DAMN good!!!!

They did a little better at the HOB in New Orleans (10/28/04), the capacity was 1,000 and 732 tickets sold @$30.00 each.

Styx sold out one show in 2005 (that I have figures/facts for), in Columbus, OHIO (3/15/05) Capacity 1,045, sold out (100%) tickets @$25.00-65.00 each

[Jeremey]

Wow, I can't believe Styx didn't sell out in Cleveland. That place is awesome. Of course, our tickets only cost $10-15 bucks each...HOB management wants us to get to 900 eventually up there...Mighty big numbers, especially considering the figures above.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Weather might have been a factor, January in Cleveland, I'm not sure.

These bands are interesting too, with the amount they're touring, similar venues, line-up changes, tickets sold, etc. These are the bands that I grew up with in the 1980's.

Journey, Kansas, .38 Special, REO Speedwagon, Foreigner etc.

Journey I found out gets paid more than the above bands mentioned (hard tickets & soft tickets), selling more tickets than all of the bands (above mentioned). Overall they're doing great AND they're playing some of the same venues or even larger venues.

Journey has had this current line-up for 8 years.

I'm working on the Foreigner information, especially with a brand new line-up and how those ticket sales have been compared to the past few years.

Even when Styx was touring with Frampton/Nelson ticket sales were not the greatest:

6/17/04 Charlotte, NC (Amphitheatre) Capacity 18,812, tickets sold 4,758 @ $7.50-32.00 per ticket.

Styx and REO, ticket sales weren't the greatest either.

I know, yada, yada, yada, if they took a break from touring the same cities or changed their set list things would be different.

Would a new cd change things for the next Styx tour to get these tickets sold?

Would a new set list and promoting a new set list change things?

Would a break even matter?

Is it better to just play the soft ticket venues, festivals, fairs, etc. and not worry about the amount of tickets to be sold. Just go to the venue, play the music.

Just thinking out loud - LOL

[Jeremey]

Journey is able to command a pretty penny for their shows, even after touring into the ground for the past 6-7 years....I know they are still at least getting $75-100K. 2 years ago it was $150K minimum.