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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:55 pm

From the other thread:

jthansen1 wrote:
the sparky holds the secret backward message in heavy metal poisoning?



This is what I found out about "Heavy Metal Poisoning"

Also a song from the Styx album/performance piece/rock opera Kilroy Was Here. The piece entails the fanatical moralist Dr. Righteous (played by James Young) singing about how the culture of rock music has poisoned the young people and he intends to bring them back from their path of "sex, drugs and rock & roll". As satire goes, it is a bit sloppy.

This song also contains a humorous attempt at backwards masking. At the time this was recorded, a number of parents' groups were very concerned about Satanic messages in rock albums being recorded bacwards into the track. Styx added the tongue-in-cheek message Annuit Coeptis. Novus ordo seclorum at the beginning of the song. These are, of course, from the dollar bill and roughly translates to "He has favoured our undertakings. A new order of the ages." I don't think the parents' groups got the joke.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:57 pm

OOOOh, this is pretty cool too!!

OMG, they were in their 30's during this time, way younger then me now!! And Tommy was just a baby in his 20's!!! LOL

http://www.reversespeech.com/backmask.htm


Backward Masking

SERIOUS ISSUES UNDERLIE A NEW ALBUM FROM STYX
By STEPHEN HOLDEN (New York Times)
Published: March 27, 1983
''By order of the Majority for Musical Morality, this album contains secret backward messages,'' reads the sticker on the cover of the new Styx album, ''Kilroy Was Here'' (A&M SP-3734). Photos on the back and the inner sleeve of the album are taken from a 10-minute movie featuring members of the group. The film is an integral part of the Chicago-based rock quintet's new show, which comes to City Center for four nights, starting March 31.

In the film, James Young, Styx's 33-year-old lead guitarist, plays Dr. Everett Righteous, a demagogue who turns his own cable network into a potent political base. Blaming society's ills on rock music, Dr. Righteous and his organization, the Majority for Musical Morality (MMM) gain enough power to have rock music banned in America. Any similarities between the MMM and the Moral Majority are not purely coincidental.

''Kilroy Was Here'' is the brainchild of Dennis DeYoung, Styx's 36-year-old senior member, keyboardist, lead singer, and writer of most of the group's hits. Mr. DeYoung plays Robert Kilroy, a famous rock star who is falsely accused of murdering a protester at an MMM rally and sent to prison. Tommy Shaw, Styx's other guitarist, plays Jonathan Chance, the underground leader who contacts Kilroy and helps him escape. Chuck and John Panozzo, the twin brothers who make up Styx's rhythm section, play characters named Lieut. Vanish and Col. Hyde.

Although the comic book scenario for ''Kilroy Was Here'' seems farfetched and simplistic, it contains a kernel of seriousness. In the last two years, Styx has been targeted by fundamentalist religious groups for the ''backward masking'' of satanic messages on its albums. Backward masking means the recording of subliminally perceived messages that can only be deciphered when a record is played backward. At the height of the Beatles' psychedelic period, the rumor of Paul McCartney's death was fueled by the message, supposedly backwardly coded on the sound collage, ''Revolution No. 9,'' ''Turn me on, dead man.'' Since then, many other groups have played with the notion of coding cryptic backward messages that the devoted listener could then detect by rotating a disk backward by hand.

The idea that such messages might be sinister has gained currency only in recent years, with the rise of fundamentalist Christian fringe groups. Far-fetched as their crusade against rock seems, it has nevertheless gained enough credence to inspire local legislation. On Feb. 3, 1983, the Arkansas State Senate passed a bill, by 86 to 0, requiring that all records containing backward masking be labeled as such by the manufacturer. Cited in the legislation were albums by the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, Queen, and Styx.

The Majority for Musical Morality sticker on the cover of ''Kilroy Was Here'' is Styx's response to the charges of satanism. And on one cut, the James Young song ''Heavy Metal Poisoning,'' Styx has indeed backward masked a cryptic-sounding Latin message, ''annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum,'' which happens to be the inscription on the Great Seal of the United States.

The attack on Styx is rife with ironies, since the group is wellknown for its socially benign stance. The group is politically centrist and has contributed money and support for the development of solar energy. Their songs unabashedly uphold the traditional Protestant virtues of hard work, social responsibility and monogamy. Audiences at Styx concerts are more wholesome looking than the audiences for any other big-name arena rock group. The song that earned Styx its place on the fundamentalist blacklist was James Young's anti-cocaine song, ''Snowblind,'' in which the words, ''Oh satan, move in our voices,'' were supposedly backward masked. Mr. Young denies that any message was coded into the song.

The fact that the issue of backward masking could engender any legislation at all suggests that rock music, which so many people are pronouncing dead these days, still has the power to inspire fear, loathing, and ecstasy. Indeed the power of good arena rock groups like Styx, Foreigner, and AC/DC, whose audiences are 95 percent teen-age, has been consistently underestimated by the rock press. Styx's records, in particular, have been routinely dismissed by rock critics for their simplistic upbeat lyrics and diluted blend of pop, hard-rock and art-rock. But while the records do indeed sound like timid pastiches of Three Dog Night, Yes, and the Who, the same music that comes off sounding stiff on record expands to anthemic proportions in the concert hall. It's a matter of dynamics, and few groups wield them with more skill than Styx.

Styx's ongoing critique of American culture began in the mid-70's with Dennis DeYoung's song, ''Sweet Madam Blue,'' in which he used the image of a woman who had lost her beauty but wouldn't admit it as a metaphor for America's inflated view of its power. Styx's biggestselling album, ''The Grand Illusion,'' inveighed against media images of limitless hedonism as the reward of success. ''Pieces of Eight'' criticized the American obsession with fame and money. And ''Paradise Theater'' found another metaphor for the decline of America in a Chicago theater that was built in the 1930's and torn down in 1958. These albums all share the same earnest blue-collar introspection that characterizes Bruce Springsteen's recent records.

But Styx, for all its good impulses and fine sentiments, has never been able to make music that holds up outside the concert hall. And ''Kilroy Was Here'' is no exception. ''Mr. Roboto'' offers glib paradoxes about technology in a hackneyed techno-pop style that borrows science fiction sound effects from the Alan Parsons Project. ''Heavy Metal Poisoning,'' Dr. Righteous's sermon against the sins of the rock culture imitates the sarcastic modal art-rock style of Frank Zappa, but the lyrics are witless cliches that lack the excoriating humor and comic detail that animate Mr. Zappa's observations. Both ''High Time'' and ''Don't Let It End,'' which celebrate the spirit of 50's rock & roll, are hampered by leaden rhythms and stiff vocal performances. While one wants to applaud Styx for their good-heartedness, again and again one is brought up short by the shallow derivativeness of their music and the awkwardness of their lyrics.

''Kilroy Was Here'' should have been a half-amusing, half-menacing parable of technology, the rock culture, and modern demagoguery. Instead, it's an us-against-them thriller cartoon for children that only touches on the issues that inspired it.
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Postby Zan » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:53 pm

While one wants to applaud Styx for their good-heartedness, again and again one is brought up short by the shallow derivativeness of their music and the awkwardness of their lyrics.


Ouch. lol
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Postby Zan » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:00 am

By the way!!!

I can't believe I never told anyone this...

My EX husband, actually remembers the big backward dabiacle of the early eighties, and distinctly recalls the name STYX being the epicenter of it all. At the time, he knew virtually nothing about the band or their music, and being the good Catholic boy that he was (who also never smoked pot in his life, Ash), avoided anything made by Styx as a result. After we met, he told me this story, and we had a good laugh over it.

My current husband, whom I've known for four years, had never really heard of Styx when he met me. I played him GH-I, and he didn't recognize any of the songs, not even CSA or Babe. Finally, much to my horror, the one he did recognize was Mr. Roboto - a song he remembered from college.
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:14 am

Zan wrote:
By the way!!!
I can't believe I never told anyone this...
My EX husband, actually remembers the big backward dabiacle of the early eighties, and distinctly recalls the name STYX being the epicenter of it all. At the time, he knew virtually nothing about the band or their music, and being the good Catholic boy that he was (who also never smoked pot in his life, Ash), avoided anything made by Styx as a result. After we met, he told me this story, and we had a good laugh over it.


I guess he wouldn't have cared for the song "Light Up" - LOL I had no clue what that was about for years and years.

I'm looking over the old Styx articles and this one from Billboard, July 10, 1982 is titled: 'Demonic Message' Bill is Introduced In Congress and of course Styx is mentioned, LOL I guess I didn't realize how "serious" this was back then as I'm reading more and more about it.

My current husband, whom I've known for four years, had never really heard of Styx when he met me. I played him GH-I, and he didn't recognize any of the songs, not even CSA or Babe. Finally, much to my horror, the one he did recognize was Mr. Roboto - a song he remembered from college.


OMG, what in the world did/does he listen to? He never heard CSA or Babe?? OMG!! That's funny about "Mr. Roboto" - LOL

I would only date guys that could name at least 3 Styx songs - LOL :shock:
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Postby Zan » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:42 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I guess he wouldn't have cared for the song "Light Up" - LOL



You'd guess correctly. He was pretty uptight about a lot of things. I never thought that was their greatest song, tho.


I'm looking over the old Styx articles and this one from Billboard, July 10, 1982 is titled: 'Demonic Message' Bill is Introduced In Congress and of course Styx is mentioned, LOL I guess I didn't realize how "serious" this was back then as I'm reading more and more about it.



That's just crazy. This world is one messed up cookie.


My current husband, whom I've known for four years, had never really heard of Styx when he met me. I played him GH-I, and he didn't recognize any of the songs, not even CSA or Babe. Finally, much to my horror, the one he did recognize was Mr. Roboto - a song he remembered from college.


OMG, what in the world did/does he listen to? He never heard CSA or Babe?? OMG!! That's funny about "Mr. Roboto" - LOL

I would only date guys that could name at least 3 Styx songs - LOL :shock:



He listened/listens to classic rock and roll music - what we'd call American oldies. Dion, Beatles, Elvis, Duprees, Tokens, Platters, etc. He also listens to Glam rock like Gary Glitter, Slade, Sweet, Status Quo, T-Rex. He does like Johnny Cash and that stuff. Ray Charles, BB King...

He really enjoyed Glen's Retrospectacle album, but he wasn't mad keen on Welcome to Hollywood or Palookaville. He thinks Styx is OK, but not great.

I only go out with guys who appear stable, and not knowing Styx songs is my first sign. ;-) :lol:
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Postby bugsymalone » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:49 am

I remember in that little VH1 series "True Spin" Dennis talked about the anti-Styx sentiment and the two midwestern preachers who organized the record burning, etc. It was part of the impetus for coming up with the whole Kilory concept. "Awkward/derivative" notwithstanding. :roll:

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Postby sadie65 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:36 am

I only go out with guys who appear stable, and not knowing Styx songs is my first sign. ;-) :lol:

Stable...overrated...

Though liking Sweet does elevate him a little :wink:
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Postby DarrenUK » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:50 am

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:Zan wrote:
By the way!!!
I can't believe I never told anyone this...
My EX husband, actually remembers the big backward dabiacle of the early eighties, and distinctly recalls the name STYX being the epicenter of it all. At the time, he knew virtually nothing about the band or their music, and being the good Catholic boy that he was (who also never smoked pot in his life, Ash), avoided anything made by Styx as a result. After we met, he told me this story, and we had a good laugh over it.


I guess he wouldn't have cared for the song "Light Up" - LOL I had no clue what that was about for years and years.

I'm looking over the old Styx articles and this one from Billboard, July 10, 1982 is titled: 'Demonic Message' Bill is Introduced In Congress and of course Styx is mentioned, LOL I guess I didn't realize how "serious" this was back then as I'm reading more and more about it.

My current husband, whom I've known for four years, had never really heard of Styx when he met me. I played him GH-I, and he didn't recognize any of the songs, not even CSA or Babe. Finally, much to my horror, the one he did recognize was Mr. Roboto - a song he remembered from college.


OMG, what in the world did/does he listen to? He never heard CSA or Babe?? OMG!! That's funny about "Mr. Roboto" - LOL

I would only date guys that could name at least 3 Styx songs - LOL :shock:


SO IF A GUY CAME TO YOU AND SAID I KNOW MORE LOVE FOR THE MONEY, FIELDS OF THE BRAVE AND THE REVAMPED CRIMINAL MIND YOU WOULD BE IN THE BACK OF HIS CADILLAC BEFORE YOU COULD SAY DOMO ARIGOTO ? :lol:
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Postby SuiteMadameBlue » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:54 am

Darren wrote:

SO IF A GUY CAME TO YOU AND SAID I KNOW MORE LOVE FOR THE MONEY, FIELDS OF THE BRAVE AND THE REVAMPED CRIMINAL MIND YOU WOULD BE IN THE BACK OF HIS CADILLAC BEFORE YOU COULD SAY DOMO ARIGOTO ?


I knew he would be a smart ass which would be perfect - LOL :wink:

There is NO way that a guy around my age would mention those songs before any of the Classic Styx songs.
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