TIME TO RECREATE THE MAGIC....

[Jodes]

Money wouldn't be the reason.. RIGHT..

[DarwinNebraska]

Styx without Dennis is just nothing all that special. They're nothing more than a good rock band.

Glad you finally realized this.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Delete - no opinion on this one

[MatrixMan]

It would be nice if they could forget their personal differences and tour together again, thogh it wouldn't be the original Styx now that the original rhythm section is either dead or disabled.


Evan

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Have a GREAT day!

[ek88]

With all the reverence those of us here (and Styx fans elsewhere) have for the music of Styx, it would be a shame if any of the band members agreed to a reunion for the sake of money. If that's the case, I'd rather not see it happen.

[I Stumble In]

I agree in the fact that there is no way that this is going to happen right now. As for cutting a new CD - I think that a CD with DDY on vs. the line up right now would be a HUGE flop. DDY and the current line up are on different plains of musical taste right now. It goes back to the basic principal that DDY is into his broadway - ballad thing, and the band is into being more of a true rock band. That isn't a slam on any one of them - it's just where their tastes are. I don't think that the combination would ever work.
The only way I see DDY back is if one of the other original member dies (Chuck or JY). No - I don't mean it as a joke. Zan had a great point comparing the band to divorcing parents. There may be bad blood - but a death can bring feuding families back together.
I do agree that they do need to freshen up the set list. How about Little Suzie and a few of the other rockers that you never hear in concert. I do want to hear a CD from this line - up. Glen brought a lot to the table - and I think that a few on this board are a little too quick to dismiss Ricky. He is an accomplished musician that has written and performed with some pretty heady acts. I look forward to hearing a CD with his influences on it. Shit - who would ever thought that there would be a link between Led Zep - and Styx? Funny to think about.

[DarrenUK]

I agree in the fact that there is no way that this is going to happen right now. As for cutting a new CD - I think that a CD with DDY on vs. the line up right now would be a HUGE flop. DDY and the current line up are on different plains of musical taste right now. It goes back to the basic principal that DDY is into his broadway - ballad thing, and the band is into being more of a true rock band. That isn't a slam on any one of them - it's just where their tastes are. I don't think that the combination would ever work.
The only way I see DDY back is if one of the other original member dies (Chuck or JY). No - I don't mean it as a joke. Zan had a great point comparing the band to divorcing parents. There may be bad blood - but a death can bring feuding families back together.
I do agree that they do need to freshen up the set list. How about Little Suzie and a few of the other rockers that you never hear in concert. I do want to hear a CD from this line - up. Glen brought a lot to the table - and I think that a few on this board are a little too quick to dismiss Ricky. He is an accomplished musician that has written and performed with some pretty heady acts. I look forward to hearing a CD with his influences on it. Shit - who would ever thought that there would be a link between Led Zep - and Styx? Funny to think about.

But was it not the fact that Dennis has always been into ballads and art rock type of songs and JY and Tommy are more rock tune oriniated and it is that combination that made them the great band that they were and can be again ?

[I Stumble In]

Darren - I agree with you - but, they are older now - and in reality none of them have to "work" anymore. When you are younger and trying to make your money and your mark in an industry it is a lot easier to just go with the flow. With where they are now - the combination and dynamics are not the same. They don't need to put up with the BS from each other - they can do what they want. This is what has changed. Just my opinion.

[Zan]

But was it not the fact that Dennis has always been into ballads and art rock type of songs and JY and Tommy are more rock tune oriniated and it is that combination that made them the great band that they were and can be again ?

No, DDY was not always into ballads. His first hit was, and his later successes were, but he wrote some killer rock songs in his day. I attribute Styx's greatness with the fact that there were 3 extremely talented and vigilant men writing songs and harmonizing together. I also think some of that tension may have made for better music too - but like all things, too much of anything is never good, and that's exactly what it came to in the end. It was also when the ballads started becoming more prevalent is when things started to fall apart for the songwriting team, IMO.

As for the "can be again" part - well, I think they still are a great band, but if you're talking about "the way it used to be," then I think you're clinging to a fantasy.

[sadie65]

I'll step out of lurk mode only to post this as it seems fitting for this discussion.


http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 50310/1002

Forget 'Mr. Roboto'
Today's Styx emphasizes band's no-frills rock roots

Joshua Rotter
Special to The Record
Published Thursday, Jun 15, 2006

James Young is determined to reshape Styx's legacy.

The band emerged from the Chicago club scene in the mid-1970s with a strong pop-rock sound that earned it airplay on AM top 40 and FM album rock. That identity, however, was blurred over the years through the success of Dennis DeYoung's ballads and concept albums.

DeYoung is long gone from the band's ranks, and guitarist Young has spent years re-establishing Styx's original sound and - he hopes - image.

"We play the hits," Young said. "But songs like 'Babe' and 'Don't Let It End' make me cringe, so we don't play them. We're a heavy-rock band, with all the power, finesse, attitude and swagger."

Styx performs Wednesday at the San Joaquin Fair.

As Young tells the story, the group worked as a cohesive whole during its early years. Besides Young and DeYoung (keyboards), the band featured John Curulewski (guitar) and brothers Chuck Panozzo (bass) and John Panozzo (drums). The men struggled through four releases on One Way and RCA Records.

All that changed when the group signed with A&M and "Lady" reached the top 10 in early 1975. Tommy Shaw replaced Curulewski, and Styx emerged as one of America's most-popular rock acts over the next four years, selling millions of copies of the albums "Equinox" (1975), "Crystal Ball" (1976), "The Grand Illusion" (1977) and "Pieces of Eight" (1978). The rocking singles "Come Sail Away," "Renegade," "Blue Collar Man" and "Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)" remain staples of the group's live act.

The success of the 1979 DeYoung ballad "Babe," however, changed Styx. Like Michael McDonald in the Doobie Brothers and Lionel Richie in the Commodores, DeYoung became the hit-single writer who determined the band's direction.

From the 3 million-selling "Cornerstone" (1979) to the concept albums "Paradise Theater" (1981) and "Kilroy Was Here" (1983), DeYoung led the group in an ever-more pop and theatrical direction. Young and Shaw resisted, and there was an eventual showdown.

"By 1983, we had spent a lot of time together," Young said. "We all felt our ideas had been suppressed in the context of Styx."

Styx disbanded in 1984. DeYoung pursued a solo career, which yielded the hit "Desert Moon." Shaw formed Damn Yankees, which scored with the 1990 power ballad "High Enough."

Fans would wait six more years for Styx's first full-on reunion tour. There was a new group album, "Edge of the Century" (1990), and a De Young-composed hit ballad, "Show Me the Way."

"We had all put out our individual ideas, which were not as successful as the band," Young said. "We realized that we're better teamed up, and said, 'Let's recapture it.' "

The joyous reunion soon would suffer drummer John Panozzo's death after battling alcoholism and DeYoung's removal. Styx persevered with Todd Sucherman, and DeYoung was replaced by Lawrence Gowan.

DeYoung sued over control of the band. Although the lawsuit was settled in 2001, bad blood remains.

"We made some amazing records together, but based on Dennis' behavior from 1982 onwards, we have no desire to work with him ever again," Young said. "Dennis seemed unwilling to be a team member."

Chuck Panozzo left the band after publicly declaring that he had AIDS. He was replaced by Ricky Phillips.

Styx is working on its next project, with a single due out in the fall. The disc, Young promised, like its stage shows, remains true to the group's roots.

"We need to be more of a rock band," he said. "We recognize that now to get airplay on a new track is more difficult, as we're typecast as dinosaurs.

"So touring is what we do to express ourselves," Young added. "This band can't be denied onstage."


Contact Joshua Rotter at features@recordnet.com

[shaka]

Some of you seriously crack me up in a big way. All this talk about Dennis reuniting with Styx for, "the fans" and not for, "the money" is seriously lame. If Dennis ever rejoins Styx I guarantee money will play a huge part. These guys are musicians and they get paid to play music. Sure, they have money but hey, why not get some more and set up future generations?

The members of Styx do not owe us, "the fans" anything other than a good show if we happen to buy a ticket. They produced great music and had a longer run than most other bands so we should be thankful. Anything that we get from Styx in the future is simply gravy and we should be thankful for that as well.

I seriously doubt that Dennis and the other members of Styx will reunite in any meaningful way. These guys are too old and set in their ways to put up with any crap from each other.

[OrlandoChris]

well put Shaka.

Complaining about what isn't happening now is a waste of time. We have the best of both worlds, gang. Everyone who is performing the music is HAPPY. Can you all deal with that, or must you remain miserable?

I'm not. I'm just getting tickets to shows when I can.

Chris

[SuiteMadameBlue]

I went back and deleted my opinions about a reunion that will never happen and my opinions on Dennis that I have no clue on and how he feels.

Even though I miss the harmonies that once were, I'm very happy with everything. I'm seeing Dennis and Glen again this weekend and next month too. I'm seeing Styx once or twice this summer. Life is Great!

Thanks for posting the article Sadie.

I hope you all have a GREAT day

[AnnieOprah]

I'll step out of lurk mode only to post this as it seems fitting for this discussion.


http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 50310/1002

Forget 'Mr. Roboto'
Today's Styx emphasizes band's no-frills rock roots

Joshua Rotter
Special to The Record
Published Thursday, Jun 15, 2006

James Young is determined to reshape Styx's legacy.

The band emerged from the Chicago club scene in the mid-1970s with a strong pop-rock sound that earned it airplay on AM top 40 and FM album rock. That identity, however, was blurred over the years through the success of Dennis DeYoung's ballads and concept albums.

DeYoung is long gone from the band's ranks, and guitarist Young has spent years re-establishing Styx's original sound and - he hopes - image.

"We play the hits," Young said. "But songs like 'Babe' and 'Don't Let It End' make me cringe, so we don't play them. We're a heavy-rock band, with all the power, finesse, attitude and swagger."

Styx performs Wednesday at the San Joaquin Fair.

As Young tells the story, the group worked as a cohesive whole during its early years. Besides Young and DeYoung (keyboards), the band featured John Curulewski (guitar) and brothers Chuck Panozzo (bass) and John Panozzo (drums). The men struggled through four releases on One Way and RCA Records.

All that changed when the group signed with A&M and "Lady" reached the top 10 in early 1975. Tommy Shaw replaced Curulewski, and Styx emerged as one of America's most-popular rock acts over the next four years, selling millions of copies of the albums "Equinox" (1975), "Crystal Ball" (1976), "The Grand Illusion" (1977) and "Pieces of Eight" (1978). The rocking singles "Come Sail Away," "Renegade," "Blue Collar Man" and "Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)" remain staples of the group's live act.

The success of the 1979 DeYoung ballad "Babe," however, changed Styx. Like Michael McDonald in the Doobie Brothers and Lionel Richie in the Commodores, DeYoung became the hit-single writer who determined the band's direction.

From the 3 million-selling "Cornerstone" (1979) to the concept albums "Paradise Theater" (1981) and "Kilroy Was Here" (1983), DeYoung led the group in an ever-more pop and theatrical direction. Young and Shaw resisted, and there was an eventual showdown.

"By 1983, we had spent a lot of time together," Young said. "We all felt our ideas had been suppressed in the context of Styx."

Styx disbanded in 1984. DeYoung pursued a solo career, which yielded the hit "Desert Moon." Shaw formed Damn Yankees, which scored with the 1990 power ballad "High Enough."

Fans would wait six more years for Styx's first full-on reunion tour. There was a new group album, "Edge of the Century" (1990), and a De Young-composed hit ballad, "Show Me the Way."

"We had all put out our individual ideas, which were not as successful as the band," Young said. "We realized that we're better teamed up, and said, 'Let's recapture it.' "

The joyous reunion soon would suffer drummer John Panozzo's death after battling alcoholism and DeYoung's removal. Styx persevered with Todd Sucherman, and DeYoung was replaced by Lawrence Gowan.

DeYoung sued over control of the band. Although the lawsuit was settled in 2001, bad blood remains.

"We made some amazing records together, but based on Dennis' behavior from 1982 onwards, we have no desire to work with him ever again," Young said. "Dennis seemed unwilling to be a team member."

Chuck Panozzo left the band after publicly declaring that he had AIDS. He was replaced by Ricky Phillips.

Styx is working on its next project, with a single due out in the fall. The disc, Young promised, like its stage shows, remains true to the group's roots.

"We need to be more of a rock band," he said. "We recognize that now to get airplay on a new track is more difficult, as we're typecast as dinosaurs.

"So touring is what we do to express ourselves," Young added. "This band can't be denied onstage."


Contact Joshua Rotter at features@recordnet.com

No offense, but this makes JY sound like an ass.

[Ash]

"We made some amazing records together, but based on Dennis' behavior from 1982 onwards, we have no desire to work with him ever again," Young said. "Dennis seemed unwilling to be a team member."

Good - because he doesn't need you Young. Based on "behavior"? I thought it was based on the fact that they didn't like his songs?

Whatever... another day - another reason from JY.

If JY could turn his hatred for Dennis into album sales, they'd be a platinum selling band again - but all it does is make him look like an asshole intent to build himself up by tearing others down - because at the end of the day he hasn't done anything that anyone outside a core number of people will ever remember as long as they live.

[Zan]

Based on "behavior"? I thought it was based on the fact that they didn't like his songs?

Whatever... another day - another reason from JY.

Newsflash for you: There have always been two reasons (and it wasn't exactly a tough case to crack either). Are you that naive that you believe the music was the only reason they parted ways with no chance for reconciliation? Did you miss Behind the Music? Because I distinctly remember references to DeYoung's demeanor and general attitude. And that's not including the ones where you could read between the lines. Maybe you haven't been paying attention.

For what it's worth, I've heard lots of good things about Dennis in the last couple of years, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they kicked the "poor, ailing guy" to the curb just because he prefered ballads over rock. There was always more to it.

[Ash]

Based on "behavior"? I thought it was based on the fact that they didn't like his songs?

Whatever... another day - another reason from JY.

Newsflash for you: There have always been two reasons (and it wasn't exactly a tough case to crack either). Are you that naive that you believe the music was the only reason they parted ways with no chance for reconciliation? Did you miss Behind the Music? Because I distinctly remember references to DeYoung's demeanor and general attitude. And that's not including the ones where you could read between the lines. Maybe you haven't been paying attention.

For what it's worth, I've heard lots of good things about Dennis in the last couple of years, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they kicked the "poor, ailing guy" to the curb just because he prefered ballads over rock. There was always more to it.

No I get it totally... I'm not naieve - but he seems to pull out one of his rotating reasons du'jour like he's never said it before. You seem to be ignoring my point (and I wonder why since it was clearly stated) that JY feels he has to build himself up by tearing down Dennis. Thats the only way the people at the bottom of the mountain can get to the top.... by knocking the guy at the top off (or trying).

But for the record:

OK... JY... we get it. You don't like ballads.... You don't like the way Dennis ran the band. You made your point (like six years ago but I digress)... perhaps now you can begin talking in specific about what cool things you have done and leave the stuff that has obviously SCARRED you for life behind.

The world was so much more improved by you getting out behind of the shadow of Dennis DeYoung to release such timeless classics as City Slicker and Out On A Day Pass (which has to be the worst piece of recorded trash I've ever heard). Throw Lady and Babe under the bus, but I'm sure "Sitting On Top Of The World" vindicates you in every way.

I really don't know how JY or anyone else survived the late 70's and early 80's being anywhere within 50 miles of Dennis DeYoung. He was obviously the worst thing to happen since Leonid Breshnev, Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro in terms of being a Stalinist dictator. I'm sure it was tough cashing that check every week and smoking it or snorting it up your nose. I wonder how much of the royalties from the songs he mentioned went to support the drug habbits of various members of the band.

At least I'm not kidding myself JY. I'm not in denial about how good Dennis was for you and for your career. Granted it may not have been 100% your cup of tea musically, but I HAVE A NEWSFLASH - most of the people who listened to your music on a daily basis have jobs that suck and we suck it up and go to work each day. Stop complaining about things that happened 10 or 20 years ago and start living in today. Dennis is.

[froy]

Based on "behavior"? I thought it was based on the fact that they didn't like his songs?

Whatever... another day - another reason from JY.

Newsflash for you: There have always been two reasons (and it wasn't exactly a tough case to crack either). Are you that naive that you believe the music was the only reason they parted ways with no chance for reconciliation? Did you miss Behind the Music? Because I distinctly remember references to DeYoung's demeanor and general attitude. And that's not including the ones where you could read between the lines. Maybe you haven't been paying attention.

For what it's worth, I've heard lots of good things about Dennis in the last couple of years, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they kicked the "poor, ailing guy" to the curb just because he prefered ballads over rock. There was always more to it.

No I get it totally... I'm not naieve - but he seems to pull out one of his rotating reasons du'jour like he's never said it before. You seem to be ignoring my point (and I wonder why since it was clearly stated) that JY feels he has to build himself up by tearing down Dennis. Thats the only way the people at the bottom of the mountain can get to the top.... by knocking the guy at the top off (or trying).

But for the record:

OK... JY... we get it. You don't like ballads.... You don't like the way Dennis ran the band. You made your point (like six years ago but I digress)... perhaps now you can begin talking in specific about what cool things you have done and leave the stuff that has obviously SCARRED you for life behind.

The world was so much more improved by you getting out behind of the shadow of Dennis DeYoung to release such timeless classics as City Slicker and Out On A Day Pass (which has to be the worst piece of recorded trash I've ever heard). Throw Lady and Babe under the bus, but I'm sure "Sitting On Top Of The World" vindicates you in every way.

I really don't know how JY or anyone else survived the late 70's and early 80's being anywhere within 50 miles of Dennis DeYoung. He was obviously the worst thing to happen since Leonid Breshnev, Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro in terms of being a Stalinist dictator. I'm sure it was tough cashing that check every week and smoking it or snorting it up your nose. I wonder how much of the royalties from the songs he mentioned went to support the drug habbits of various members of the band.

At least I'm not kidding myself JY. I'm not in denial about how good Dennis was for you and for your career. Granted it may not have been 100% your cup of tea musically, but I HAVE A NEWSFLASH - most of the people who listened to your music on a daily basis have jobs that suck and we suck it up and go to work each day. Stop complaining about things that happened 10 or 20 years ago and start living in today. Dennis is.

No offence Ash but you are totally correct.
What world is James Young living in?
The I hate world?
James Young you would be a awefull father if you had kids I will say that much.
If he is reshaping Styx to what they once were he will be back playing high schools again.
And anyone with half a brain can see just how shitty STYX is right now,
I can sing better than Lawerence Gowan he makes a total ass out of himself every time he stands on stage.

Gee I can't wait for the new single
Alright Dennis release your cd and send James Young into a tizzy
Lets blow his ass right out of the water with some killer ballads.
James Young who are you crappin,

[froy]

[quote="SuiteMadameBlue" I'm seeing Styx once or twice this summer. Life is Great!

Sounds like you are going in circles to me.
Can you please video tape Gowan when he sings Lady so we all can get violently ill.

[AnnieOprah]

Based on "behavior"? I thought it was based on the fact that they didn't like his songs?

Whatever... another day - another reason from JY.

Newsflash for you: There have always been two reasons (and it wasn't exactly a tough case to crack either). Are you that naive that you believe the music was the only reason they parted ways with no chance for reconciliation? Did you miss Behind the Music? Because I distinctly remember references to DeYoung's demeanor and general attitude. And that's not including the ones where you could read between the lines. Maybe you haven't been paying attention.

For what it's worth, I've heard lots of good things about Dennis in the last couple of years, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking they kicked the "poor, ailing guy" to the curb just because he prefered ballads over rock. There was always more to it.

How can you defend JY when he continues to put his foot in his mouth like this. The guy comes off as a complete asshole. If the shoe were on the other foot (DDY bad-mouthing JY), why do I have the feeling that you would say that Dennis was being an asshole?

[AnnieOprah]

[quote="SuiteMadameBlue" I'm seeing Styx once or twice this summer. Life is Great!

Sounds like you are going in circles to me.
Can you please video tape Gowan when he sings Lady so we all can get violently ill.

What bothers me about JY and his continued antics are that he continues to bad-mouth songs that he and Dennis (and the whole band) worked on together. And songs that were top 5 singles! Today it is Babe and Don't Let It End. Another day it will be Mr. Roboto. People got themselves all in stiches when Dennis DeYoung claimed (correctly so, I might add) that Brave New World was an album of "missed opportunities". But JY rails on songs that not only were performed by he and Dennis, but are beloved by many people that know Styx and are prominently featured on all their greatest hits albums. How can the man be so callous as to completely dismiss not only what were major popular hits, but also diss something that he himself performed on? As Ash said, does he just not cash his royalty checks when they come in for sales and airplay of those shitty ballads? Or is he, as I am assuming, once again playing the role of a hypocrite.

I'm sorry, but out of all members of Styx past, present, and future, JY is by far and away acting the most despicable and most immature. Tommy Shaw just doesn't talk about it, Dennis DeYoung has moved on, Glen Burtnik has moved on, but JY MAKES IT A POINT to continue to rehash this crap whenever given the opportunity. Its really a shame to see how insecure he really is. Obviously all those years of being in Styx without ever writing or singing a hit single must be murder on him psychologically (and don't go saying Miss America was a hit - it got played on a few radio stations in the late 70s more as a result of the popularity of the Grand Illusion album than anything else). He really needs to seek out counseling to potentially curtail all this anger inside of him, because right now it makes him look really small.

[Ash]

Just to expound on that point..... there are people who like Styx today and also like Mr. Roboto and like Babe. So what does JY do? He throws THOSE fans under the bus too.

But thats ok in JY's little selfish world. Throw the people that like you and like Dennis away... throw dennis away... Throw away the music that helped make you a star.

Keep throwing things away and soon you'll end up with what you deserve ... nothing.

It's obvious to anyone with an iota of sense that this is 100% personal for James Young. He's not content to remove Dennis from Styx - he's obviously out to slander, defame, and destroy him on many levels. And at the end of the day - the only one who looks like the kid in my avatar is James Young.

[DarrenUK]

Have to agree.....JY needs to move on and kick this continuous slander into touch........

DDY AND STYX TO ANNOUNCE REUNION ON 7.7.07 30 YEARS AFTER A CERTAIN ALBUM WAS RELEASED.....

HERE'S HOPING

[Zan]

No I get it totally... I'm not naieve - but he seems to pull out one of his rotating reasons du'jour like he's never said it before. You seem to be ignoring my point (and I wonder why since it was clearly stated) that JY feels he has to build himself up by tearing down Dennis. Thats the only way the people at the bottom of the mountain can get to the top.... by knocking the guy at the top off (or trying).

No, I wasn't ignorant to your point (nor was I the first hundred times you made it). I quoted the PART I TOOK ISSUE WITH, and that part only. You came off sounding like JY was being hypocritical by saying one thing when he's said other things in the past. I thought it was a bit daft, that's all.

[Zan]

Keep throwing things away and soon you'll end up with what you deserve ... nothing.

I have never disagreed with you more.

James Young deserves more than anyone in that band. I'm sure, in your fan world, on the outside looking in, you only see the surface issues. Hits, numbers, songs...But I'd venture a guess that JY has had more to do with keeping that band together than anyone who has ever stepped foot into that band.

Now that said, I don't like him constantly ripping Dennis either. It makes him look like a pissed off teenager or disgruntled parent in a divorce/custody case, and it only hurts his image, which is plainly seen by your equally resentful posts against him. But I don't FAULT him for feeling that way, I just wish he'd keep his personal feelings out of the the public eye. For his sake.

But damn dude. Take it easy. You seem just as worked up as he does, and you're not even emotionally involved in it!

[Ash]

James Young deserves more than anyone in that band.

You can hate me fore saying this. But I stopped reading here. Because this is so outrageous and full of shit that I really can't read past it or get past it.

James Young would have been a cab driver forever without Dennis... and for that, he shit on his friend and continues to try and destroy him. Whatever

[Zan]

James Young deserves more than anyone in that band.

You can hate me fore saying this. But I stopped reading here. Because this is so outrageous and full of shit that I really can't read past it or get past it.

James Young would have been a cab driver forever without Dennis... and for that, he shit on his friend and continues to try and destroy him. Whatever

Well, that tells me all I need to know about how open minded you are. I'm equally impressed with your psychic abilities. LOL

And if JY had become a cab driver, Styx would have likely ceased to exist before Grand Illusion was ever created because he was the glue that held Styx together for many, many years. He's worked harder than anyone to keep that band going. A band can't have number one records if it doesn't exist.

I like how you use the word "friend" too. Exactly how long have they been friends? How long has that friendship been destroyed? I'd venture a guess that it's been longer than since 1999.

[shaka]

James Young deserves more than anyone in that band.

You can hate me fore saying this. But I stopped reading here. Because this is so outrageous and full of shit that I really can't read past it or get past it.

James Young would have been a cab driver forever without Dennis... and for that, he shit on his friend and continues to try and destroy him. Whatever

Wow, you know your Styx history. If I remember correctly JY has a degree in aeronautical engineering. If the members of Styx had never succeeded as a band JY would probably pull 3-4 times the amount of money in the private sector as the other original members who were school teachers.

[Monker]

He was obviously the worst thing to happen since Leonid Breshnev, Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro in terms of being a Stalinist dictator.

You forgot to add Steve Perry to your list...which is probably more comparable and relevant anyway.