The STYX Boycott Getting Stronger

[AnnieOprah]

One of the only reasons I went to see DDY live last April (2005) was because I have noticed a substantial change in the way he speaks about his former bandmates and the fans who support them. It wasn't always the case...but he seems to have moved on and has humbled himself a bit, which I appreciate.

I guess in a way, I'm saying that I understand where you're coming from, Ash - it's uncomfortable to hear all the time. The only difference between you & me is that it doesn't make me want to stop supporting him or the current version of Styx, it just makes me a little sad.

Why is it when Dennis speaks ill of his former band mates then it makes you not want to go see him, but when JY does it then it just makes you sad? I'm not trying to be adversarial there honestly - I'm just trying to understand. If both camps were separate but had mutual respect and just decided to let their art speak for themselves, I might not like it - but I might be able to accept it at some point.

If Dennis came out and started slamming JY and Tommy - even though I'd feel he was justified by "responding" - I'd likely stop supporting him - because the names is not what it's all about.

So at the end of the day - why is it OK for JY to do it but not for Dennis? You'd not see DDY because of things he says, but not the other way around.

Again I'm not trying to pick a fight - I'm just trying to understand. You can PM me the reply if you want. It's cool.

I have asked the same question too...

So Zan, what is the reason for this? A solid answer will give you much more credibility in what you post.

[Zan]

Ah can you send me a PM also Zan

And then you woke up.

[Zan]

So Zan, what is the reason for this? A solid answer will give you much more credibility in what you post.

My reasons are not up for scrutiny, but they are mine, and they are legitimate - this is also not the same situation at all, IMO. And forgive me for saying this (I am being sincere here), but I'm not exactly overly concerned about how credible I am to a complete stranger on the internet, especially one who historically likes to spar with me.

[froy]

So Zan, what is the reason for this? A solid answer will give you much more credibility in what you post.

[b][color=magenta]My reasons are not up for scrutiny, but they are mine, and they are legitimate -

Which means she was caught with her pants down so now she makes up all this bull shit.
She fits right in as a current STYX fan.
Zan admit it and move on .

[Zan]

Which means she was caught with her pants down so now she makes up all this bull shit.
She fits right in as a current STYX fan.
Zan admit it and move on .

Froy, you're a flaming retard. Admit it and move on.

[froy]

Which means she was caught with her pants down so now she makes up all this bull shit.
She fits right in as a current STYX fan.
Zan admit it and move on .

Froy, you're a flaming retard. Admit it and move on.

At least my pants are on.
Gets some kahunas and admit you were caught.

[Zan]

At least my pants are on.
Gets some kahunas and admit you were caught.

The fact that I'm even replying to this proves Ash's point that I'm likely a retard too, but you're just so "damm" irresistable.

I was not "caught" doing anything. I agreed with Ash about JY sounding bitter and I agreed that I wished he would stop - albeit for different reasons. Just because I won't boycott him or the band - or because I am not "angry" at him like I was with Dennis ("angry" implies that I lost sleep over it like you do, which is definitely not the case here) doesn't mean I got caught with my pants down. However, by continuing to reply to you, I give the impression that I'm under the illusion that somehow you are capable of having a rational discussion, which you have proven time & time again not to be the case. You even admit so much yourself.

As far as kahunas go, we don't have very big waves in South Florida, but we're planning a trip to Hawaii in the near future. I'll do my best to catch one or two then.

Rock on, you pant-wearin' retard.

[froy]

At least my pants are on.
Gets some kahunas and admit you were caught.

The fact that I'm even replying to this proves Ash's point that I'm likely a retard too, but you're just so "damm" irresistable.

I was not "caught" doing anything. I agreed with Ash about JY sounding bitter and I agreed that I wished he would stop - albeit for different reasons. Just because I won't boycott him or the band - or because I am not "angry" at him like I was with Dennis ("angry" implies that I lost sleep over it like you do, which is definitely not the case here) doesn't mean I got caught with my pants down. However, by continuing to reply to you, I give the impression that I'm under the illusion that somehow you are capable of having a rational discussion, which you have proven time & time again not to be the case. You even admit so much yourself.

As far as kahunas go, we don't have very big waves in South Florida, but we're planning a trip to Hawaii in the near future. I'll do my best to catch one or two then.

Rock on, you pant-wearin' retard.

I still do not see an answer to this question
Is this the side skate now ?

So at the end of the day - why is it OK for JY to do it but not for Dennis? You'd not see DDY because of things he says, but not the other way around.


Why are you still seeing STYX with all the shit JY is saying
Please answer the question

[Zan]

So at the end of the day - why is it OK for JY to do it but not for Dennis? You'd not see DDY because of things he says, but not the other way around.

I HAVE gone to see Dennis, you moron. He wasn't touring back when he was trying to sabotage the touring Styx - he was busy soliciting phoners with local radio stations and insulting anyone who didn't side with him (something JY has never done). I won't travel to see him live because that type of show doesn't "do it" for me, and quite frankly, there is only so much of Suzanne I can stomach. Sorta like you, Froy.

[Monker]

I HAVE gone to see Dennis, you moron. He wasn't touring back when he was trying to sabotage the touring Styx - he was busy soliciting phoners with local radio stations and insulting anyone who didn't side with him (something JY has never done). I won't travel to see him live because that type of show doesn't "do it" for me, and quite frankly, there is only so much of Suzanne I can stomach. Sorta like you, Froy.

Didn't you say recently you didn't like getting involved in the give-and-take of this stuff any longer? Froy has really drawn you in this time! I knew exactly what the reasoning was, I basicaly agree.

Froy,

The EXACT same can be said about you. While Dennis was insulting FANS with his "drinking Tommy's bathwater" comments, you were out supporting petitions to get him back in the band. Why did Dennis have your full support while he was insulting FANS, but it is such a huge deal for Zan to not fully support Dennis while JY speaks his mind about Styx' past? THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy.

[Zan]

Didn't you say recently you didn't like getting involved in the give-and-take of this stuff any longer? Froy has really drawn you in this time! I knew exactly what the reasoning was, I basicaly agree.

Yes, but I have the KAHUNAS to admit it.

Froy,

The EXACT same can be said about you. While Dennis was insulting FANS with his "drinking Tommy's bathwater" comments, you were out supporting petitions to get him back in the band. Why did Dennis have your full support while he was insulting FANS, but it is such a huge deal for Zan to not fully support Dennis while JY speaks his mind about Styx' past? THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy.

How's that head feeling, Monker? Mine's still a bit tender.

[ChicagoSTYX]

Froy, I was just wondering what your exact reason is for your self inflicted one man boycott of Styx. Has their existence somehow influenced your life in a negative way? Are your taxes now higher because of them? Are they driving up the price of gas? Does their tour bus continuously drive over your lawn? I’m lost on this one Froy. What are they doing to you? I’m sure DDY would not want anyone to boycott Styx. That would take money out of his pocket. The more Styx tours the more back catalog of CDs they sell and that means more money in DDY’s pocket as he is sitting home in his easy chair.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

OMG !!

I feel like I'm in the fricken Twilight Zone reading this forum.

Here's the deal:

THE "CLASSIC" STYX WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN, IT'S OVER. THERE WILL NEVER BE THAT "MAGIC" THAT WAS ONCE UP ON THAT STAGE. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A TOUR WITH DENNIS AND JY ON THE SAME STAGE, IF THEY EVER PERFORM TOGETHER IT WILL BE A ONE TIME EVENT.

HOWEVER, SEEING DENNIS AND TOMMY SHAW OH AND GLEN ON THE SAME STAGE 80%, WITH CHUCK ADDED 60%.

BUT NOT DENNIS & JY. WHO THE HELL WANTS TO SEE A CONCERT WHEN THERE IS HATRED AND BAD BLOOD???? HOW UNCOMFORTABLE IS THAT?????

LET IT GO FROY - TRUST ME !!!

[froy]

OMG !!

I feel like I'm in the fricken Twilight Zone reading this forum.

Here's the deal:

[size=18]THE "CLASSIC" STYX WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN, IT'S OVER.

PUT THAT DAMM CAN DOWN SUITE
NEVER NEVER NEVER SAY NEVER IF THE FANS DEMAND IT THEN IT WILL HAPPEN
LOOK AT GENESIS THEY ARE COMMING BACK EVEN WITH GABRIEL
DO NOT SAY ITS OVER

HOWEVER, SEEING DENNIS AND TOMMY SHAW OH AND GLEN ON THE SAME STAGE 80%, WITH CHUCK ADDED 60%.

I WILL BET THIS ENTIRE BOARD THAT THERE WILL BE A STYX REUNION
WITH DENNIS AND GLEN AND GOWAN GOES POOF

[froy]

Froy, I was just wondering what your exact reason is for your self inflicted one man boycott of Styx.

IM GETTING READY TO PUT UP A BILLBOARD ON 294
IT WILL READ BOYCOTT STYX DEMAND THE FIX
DENNIS DEYOUNG RETURNS TO PARADISE 7-7-07
LOOK FOR IT

Has their existence somehow influenced your life in a negative way?

YES THEY SUCK .

Are your taxes now higher because of them? Are they driving up the price of gas? Does their tour bus continuously drive over your lawn? I’m lost on this one Froy. What are they doing to you?

THEY ARE DESTROYING ONE OF MY GREATEST CHILDHOOD MEMORIES
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO ME AND MY THOUSANDS OF MY FRIENDS,

I’m sure DDY would not want anyone to boycott Styx.

IM SURE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT DENNIS WANTS
I WILL CALL HIM AND ASK HIM WHAT HE THINKS.

The more Styx tours the more back catalog of CDs they sell and that means more money in DDY’s pocket as he is sitting home in his easy chair.

All I can say is the Beatles have not toured in 40 years and there catalog is selling just fine

[froy]

Froy,

The EXACT same can be said about you. While Dennis was insulting FANS with his "drinking Tommy's bathwater" comments, you were out supporting petitions to get him back in the band.

You want to know why ?
Its the truth and still is today
The only fans left of STYX are Shaw fans and the canada folks who praise Gowan
Thats it .
If Shaw leaves STYX they go from selling selling 600 seats to 12
Thats the facts and you know it.

Why did Dennis have your full support while he was insulting FANS,

Because it was the truth thats why
What did you expect the guy to do he was railroaded out of his own band
Im shocked he was as nice as he was.

but it is such a huge deal for Zan to not fully support Dennis while JY speaks his mind about Styx' past?

2 things
1 I did not ask Zan the question
I asked her to answer it as she played jump roap around it
2 Dennis said 1 thing in 6 years JY can't shut his fat trap
The same shit comes out of his beak article after article
Its time he shut his mouth,

THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Not anymore

[Monker]

Froy,

You live in your own little world where truth, and logic, and simple common sense do not exist. If you want to spend your money on billboards, and time on boycott's, in some futile effort to change something you have NO control over, that's your wasted life to live.

I think Suite finaly 'gets it'. It's better to spend your time enjoying the music then spending so much of your time hating the music. Maybe some more people will see the light, eventualy...It's a lot more of a fun place to be in. Too bad you spend so much time in such a hateful state of mind.

Froy,

The EXACT same can be said about you. While Dennis was insulting FANS with his "drinking Tommy's bathwater" comments, you were out supporting petitions to get him back in the band.

You want to know why ?
Its the truth and still is today
The only fans left of STYX are Shaw fans and the canada folks who praise Gowan
Thats it .
If Shaw leaves STYX they go from selling selling 600 seats to 12
Thats the facts and you know it.

Why did Dennis have your full support while he was insulting FANS,

Because it was the truth thats why
What did you expect the guy to do he was railroaded out of his own band
Im shocked he was as nice as he was.

but it is such a huge deal for Zan to not fully support Dennis while JY speaks his mind about Styx' past?

2 things
1 I did not ask Zan the question
I asked her to answer it as she played jump roap around it
2 Dennis said 1 thing in 6 years JY can't shut his fat trap
The same shit comes out of his beak article after article
Its time he shut his mouth,

THAT is the very definition of hypocrisy.

Not anymore

[froy]

Froy,

You live in your own little world where truth, and logic, and simple common sense do not exist.

And you live on a farm to close to the barn
I live in the real world PAL.
You have been in the corn field way to long.

If you want to spend your money on billboards, and time on boycott's, in some futile effort to change something you have NO control over, that's your wasted life to live.

Its called standing up for a friend MONKER its called going to war to defend whats right
Something you and others here have no clue about.

I think Suite finaly 'gets it'. It's better to spend your time enjoying the music then spending so much of your time hating the music.

Do you really think this performance by Gowan is STYX quality ?
Can you honestly come back here and say this is STYX
I want you to comment on this and if you say this is STYX
I will laugh in your face

take a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6at5bjGQ ... tyx%20Live

[AnnieOprah]

So at the end of the day - why is it OK for JY to do it but not for Dennis? You'd not see DDY because of things he says, but not the other way around.

I HAVE gone to see Dennis, you moron. He wasn't touring back when he was trying to sabotage the touring Styx - he was busy soliciting phoners with local radio stations and insulting anyone who didn't side with him (something JY has never done). I won't travel to see him live because that type of show doesn't "do it" for me, and quite frankly, there is only so much of Suzanne I can stomach. Sorta like you, Froy.

Oh is sabotaging the touring Styx similar to saying that Babe, Don't Let It End, and Mr. Roboto are cringe inducing songs? And saying this all while you continue to cash those royalty checks? Sorry, but your logic really doesn't make sense here. JY is doing far worse than Dennis ever did - and by God its been what 8 years?

[AnnieOprah]

OMG !!

I feel like I'm in the fricken Twilight Zone reading this forum.

Here's the deal:

THE "CLASSIC" STYX WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN, IT'S OVER. THERE WILL NEVER BE THAT "MAGIC" THAT WAS ONCE UP ON THAT STAGE. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A TOUR WITH DENNIS AND JY ON THE SAME STAGE, IF THEY EVER PERFORM TOGETHER IT WILL BE A ONE TIME EVENT.

HOWEVER, SEEING DENNIS AND TOMMY SHAW OH AND GLEN ON THE SAME STAGE 80%, WITH CHUCK ADDED 60%.

BUT NOT DENNIS & JY. WHO THE HELL WANTS TO SEE A CONCERT WHEN THERE IS HATRED AND BAD BLOOD???? HOW UNCOMFORTABLE IS THAT?????

LET IT GO FROY - TRUST ME !!!

I think this is a good point. I would love to see Tommy, Dennis, and Glen. That would be awesome!!! JY never did it for me anyway. I really don't like any of his songs. But Tommy, Dennis, and Glen - now that is the talent in Styx right there. What would it take for Tommy to leave JY's Styx and come on over to Dennis's Styx?

[SuiteMadameBlue]

UGH!!

The can is down Froy.

Froy, you're not going to change anyone's mind on this board. Most of the people that post have been on here for a few years or so. It's not going to make a difference.

The "Classic" line up will not be touring. Anything else can happen.

It ticks me off that a few of my good friends over the years have either left or isn't posting on this board anymore.

As for Genesis, I don't think anyone really hated another. Big difference.

[Monker]

And you live on a farm to close to the barn

Ah, well, your head is too big for your brain!

I live in the real world PAL.

Yeah, we all know what 'real' world you live in.

You have been in the corn field way to long.

Hey, it pays the bills.

Its called standing up for a friend MONKER its called going to war to defend whats right
Something you and others here have no clue about.

I see, so acting like an ass online, putting up billboards (yeah, right, take a pic...cuz I don't believe you'll do it), and 'boycotting' Styx is a 'war'.

This is the 'real' world you live in?

Do you really think this performance by Gowan is STYX quality ?
Can you honestly come back here and say this is STYX
I want you to comment on this and if you say this is STYX
I will laugh in your face

Of course it is Styx. Like I said, I'd rather see Gowan hopping around then a Finesse comercial.

I'm only buying the DVD to see a glimpse of Zan (and Dayle) anyway...so that should make you feel a little better.

[SuiteMadameBlue]

Annie wrote:

I think this is a good point. I would love to see Tommy, Dennis, and Glen. That would be awesome!!!

I can't wait!!! It's going to be awesome! It's going to be great harmonies

JY never did it for me anyway. I really don't like any of his songs. But Tommy, Dennis, and Glen - now that is the talent in Styx right there.

JY added with the early harmonies, but right now it just wouldn't be the same. Pretty sad.

What would it take for Tommy to leave JY's Styx and come on over to Dennis's Styx?

Hmmm, I don't think it would take too much, just a few smiles, a few laughs, a few hugs.

[froy]

What would it take for Tommy to leave JY's Styx and come on over to Dennis's Styx?

Hmmm, I don't think it would take too much, just a few smiles, a few laughs, a few hugs.

[/quote]

Suite you have concocked this Shaw thing for over a year now and I just do not see it hapening

Shaw would have to stab JY in the back
how do you see this happening?
What is the name of the band going to be?

This is wacked out IMO'

Is this like the Dennis is going to play with Light UP dream?

[Zan]

Oh is sabotaging the touring Styx similar to saying that Babe, Don't Let It End, and Mr. Roboto are cringe inducing songs? And saying this all while you continue to cash those royalty checks? Sorry, but your logic really doesn't make sense here. JY is doing far worse than Dennis ever did - and by God its been what 8 years?

No, sabotaging is making an effort to cause a problem or help towards destroying something. Saying you don't like a song is just stating an opinion. Sorry, but your logic doesn't fly. Not that it ever stopped anyone here. lol

And I wouldn't be so sure JY sees much royalties from those songs either.

[Zan]

I'm only buying the DVD to see a glimpse of Zan (and Dayle) anyway...so that should make you feel a little better.

I wasn't anywhere near Dayle at the show, but it's something!

[froy]

[b]UGH!!

The can is down Froy.

Froy, you're not going to change anyone's mind on this board. Most of the people that post have been on here for a few years or so. It's not going to make a difference.

Really did ya see Darrens post Suite

The "Classic" line up will not be touring.

Care to wager?

It ticks me off that a few of my good friends over the years have either left or isn't posting on this board anymore.

What are you saying?

In the STYX world everthing is the same year after year
Same setlist same JY blasting Dennis and the same Zan sticking up for JY
What else is there?
Oh yea the BOYCOTT STYX in 2006 kinda the same I guess,

As for Genesis, I don't think anyone really hated another. Big difference

The members of the WHO hated each other and they neverreally broke up,
Look at Pink Floyd they hated each but no problem getting together for Live 8

Someday James Young will change his tune believe me
The man can't hate forever even though he is trying so hard ,

[froy]

No, sabotaging is making an effort to cause a problem or help towards destroying something.

Zan your the one who said sabotaging nobody else
GOWAN is sabotaging the STYX legacy everytime he opens his mouth and sings, Maybe you should concentrate on that.

Saying you don't like a song is just stating an opinion.

Saying you don't like a song 20 years after the fact is simply stupidity
Nobody cares about James Youngs opinion,

Sorry, but your logic doesn't fly.

Sorry yours doesn't either,

And I wouldn't be so sure JY sees much royalties from those songs either

Your right he doesn't deserve them anyway.

[Zan]

Saying you don't like a song 20 years after the fact is simply stupidity

Says the Master of Stupidity.

JY said he didn't like those songs back when they were released - nothing's changed.

and FYI: The sentence should read: "....simple stupidity," or "Simply stupid." Quit sabotaging the English language before more nations boycott us.

[froy]

Saying you don't like a song 20 years after the fact is simply stupidity

[b][color=magenta]Says the Master of Stupidity.

Grow up Zan really your like a 2nd grader,