JY...WLUP

[yogi]

Rajah,

Dont pat yourself on the back too much because if you must know Amazon.com is NOT the be all source for music buyers!

There are actually other places to purchase music!!!

Remember you are still VERY GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChicagoSTYX]

1 copy sold of a double CD counts as 2 units sold.

Right... and Cyclorama and Big Band Theory is two releases. So what is your point?

My point is Styx is out selling DDY in the US! Styx came in at 47 on the Billboard album chart with their last CD. How did DDY do with his last CD in the US? It must be hard for him to sell many copies when he's selling them out of his basement.

Let's be clear and not twist the facts like you are so apt to do, Chicago Styx. BBT was on the chart for exactly one week and it was simply a result of them being on the Today show the week before. That is it - on today they plugged the album - as a result for one little week it got to #47 - amazing what the top morning news show will do for you. But alas, the CD was off the chart the following week and to my knowledge didn't even sell 15,000 copies - hardly the success you claim it to be.

If you want to look at stats - check out Amazon.com. It will show that DDY is kicking Styx's A$$.

I think we have been down the Amazon road on this board before. I can remember bringing up the Amazon ranking when BBT came out and I was shot down by several DDY supporters claiming that Amazon rankings meant absolutely nothing. Apparently that has now changed. That’s good to know because we have 2 new Styx products coming out in the next year.

[bugsymalone]

I think we have been down the Amazon road on this board before. I can remember bringing up the Amazon ranking when BBT came out and I was shot down by several DDY supporters claiming that Amazon rankings meant absolutely nothing. Apparently that has now changed. That’s good to know because we have 2 new Styx products coming out in the next year.

I do not remember the prior discussions about Amazon and my feeling is it is ONLY Amazon we are talking about.

I have no clue what it means in the larger sense.

Yes, two new Current Styx products will be out sooner rather than later. And DDY? He says "the 12th of never" and I am kinda believing him now!

Bugsy

[sadie65]

Oh good lord...here we go again. I swear this is such a broken record, with each "side" interpreting posts to suit their own agenda.

Styx is planning a release of new material next year. Dennis did well in Canada this year. And here we all sit going round and round and round about what exactly?

Amazon matters, Amazon doesn't matter. Counting double cd's as opposed to single cd's.

In the grand scheme of things...I would personally just rather try to enjoy what each brings...cuz as my own broken record has said...they won't be doing what they are doing for as long as we'd like.

Peace

[ChicagoSTYX]

Not that this matters but if you look at the rankings at Amazon today 9/13/06 BBT Amazon.com Sales Rank: #6,654 in Music

DDY live (with Paradise Theater rip off cover) Amazon.com Sales Rank: #21,064 in Music

So now what???? I guess they don’t count anymore.

[bugsymalone]

I sorry, Sadie. I kinda raised that old corpse again, no?

I do agree. Buy! Enjoy!

Bugsy

[ChicagoSTYX]

Not that this matters but if you look at the rankings at Amazon today 9/13/06 BBT Amazon.com Sales Rank: #6,654 in Music

DDY live (with Paradise Theater rip off cover) Amazon.com Sales Rank: #21,064 in Music

So now what???? I guess they don’t count anymore.

And if you break it down it probably means Styx sold 3 copies last week and DDY sold 1

[sadie65]

I sorry, Sadie. I kinda raised that old corpse again, no?

I do agree. Buy! Enjoy!

Bugsy

That will be 30 lashes with a wet noodle for you missy!

[bugsymalone]

Not that this matters but if you look at the rankings at Amazon today 9/13/06 BBT Amazon.com Sales Rank: #6,654 in Music

DDY live (with Paradise Theater rip off cover) Amazon.com Sales Rank: #21,064 in Music

So now what???? I guess they don’t count anymore.

And if you break it down it probably means Styx sold 3 copies last week and DDY sold 1

LOL! Exactly!

Bugsy

[froy]

Rajah,

Dont pat yourself on the back too much because if you must know Amazon.com is NOT the be all source for music buyers!

There are actually other places to purchase music!!!

Remember you are still VERY GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just checking something

[Rockwriter]

1 copy sold of a double CD counts as 2 units sold.

Right... and Cyclorama and Big Band Theory is two releases. So what is your point?

My point is Styx is out selling DDY in the US! Styx came in at 47 on the Billboard album chart with their last CD. How did DDY do with his last CD in the US? It must be hard for him to sell many copies when he's selling them out of his basement.

Let's be clear and not twist the facts like you are so apt to do, Chicago Styx. BBT was on the chart for exactly one week and it was simply a result of them being on the Today show the week before. That is it - on today they plugged the album - as a result for one little week it got to #47 - amazing what the top morning news show will do for you. But alas, the CD was off the chart the following week and to my knowledge didn't even sell 15,000 copies - hardly the success you claim it to be.

If you want to look at stats - check out Amazon.com. It will show that DDY is kicking Styx's A$$.

Hi:

Actually I think BBT wound up in the Billboard Top 200 for about three weeks total, though it took a massive dive downward after the first week and another massive dive after that before disappearing altogether. JY has said in interviews that it surpassed fifty thousand, whether that's true I don't really know.

Either way, to put this in perspective, you could add up the sales of CYCLO and BBT and together they wouldn't equal the sales of WHAT IF or BACK TO THE WORLD, the two albums that ended Tommy's and Dennis' A&M deals respectively. Or look at it this way, you could add up all of the sales of every piece of product from the new Styx - all of the live releases, plus CYCLO and BBT - and it wouldn't equal the sales of EDGE OF THE CENTURY. That doesn't mean they're bad; they're just not selling. They are only selling as well now as they did back in the Wooden Nickel era. SERPENT IS RISING sold as well as CYCLO. JY can spin things seven ways to Sunday with his talk of "a base camp at the foot of Mt. Everest" and it won't change that hard, brutal truth.

I hope all is well.

Sterling

[styxfansite]

I am new to this forum, but didn't Jy or Tommy admit that CYCLO didn't do well? Also if you read the reviews on Amazon or on any other site, there are different emotions about BBT. Some users say that Styx is a "Cover Band", and some users enjoyed it. I think it is ok, but not great and NOT STYX. What you want to look at is this:

How many DDY Dvd's were sold during an amount of time.
Now look at Styx BBT and Cyclorama, and compare it the same way.

Cyclorama I remember seeing has only sold 15,000 copies. BBT, I am not to sure about.

Also add this from Wikidpedia:

A new version of Styx featuring Shaw, Gowan, and sole remaining original member James Young released Cyclorama in February 2003. Cyclorama sold few copies and to date has only sold approximately 15,000 copies in the US, a far cry from the 3 million plus that the band routinely sold in the late 70s and early 80s. This edition of the band also toured extensively through the first half of the decade.

In 2005, DeYoung released a CD of re-recorded Styx hits from a solo concert with a symphony orchestra (titled "Dennis DeYoung and the Music of Styx,") while the remaining members of Styx recorded a new album made entirely of rock covers. The new CD, "Big Bang Theory," was released on May 10, 2005, and reached #46, Styx's highest chart position on Billboard's Top 200 in 14 years, but failing to garner much staying power, only staying on the charts for 2 weeks. DeYoung's CD became a big hit in Canada, garnering triple platinum status.

As of April 21, 2006, according to the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) which awards artists and groups gold/platinum status, Styx ranks #127 with 17.5 million[5] records sold within the United States. (The Beatles have sold 165 million units.) After they finish up thier tour. They will take a few months off to record a new album due out next Spring.

[sadie65]

I am new to this forum, but didn't Jy or Tommy admit that CYCLO didn't do well? Also if you read the reviews on Amazon or on any other site, there are different emotions about BBT. Some users say that Styx is a "Cover Band", and some users enjoyed it. I think it is ok, but not great and NOT STYX. What you want to look at is this:

How many DDY Dvd's were sold during an amount of time.
Now look at Styx BBT and Cyclorama, and compare it the same way.

Cyclorama I remember seeing has only sold 15,000 copies. BBT, I am not to sure about.

Also add this from Wikidpedia:

A new version of Styx featuring Shaw, Gowan, and sole remaining original member James Young released Cyclorama in February 2003. Cyclorama sold few copies and to date has only sold approximately 15,000 copies in the US, a far cry from the 3 million plus that the band routinely sold in the late 70s and early 80s. This edition of the band also toured extensively through the first half of the decade.

In 2005, DeYoung released a CD of re-recorded Styx hits from a solo concert with a symphony orchestra (titled "Dennis DeYoung and the Music of Styx,") while the remaining members of Styx recorded a new album made entirely of rock covers. The new CD, "Big Bang Theory," was released on May 10, 2005, and reached #46, Styx's highest chart position on Billboard's Top 200 in 14 years, but failing to garner much staying power, only staying on the charts for 2 weeks. DeYoung's CD became a big hit in Canada, garnering triple platinum status.

As of April 21, 2006, according to the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) which awards artists and groups gold/platinum status, Styx ranks #127 with 17.5 million[5] records sold within the United States. (The Beatles have sold 165 million units.) After they finish up thier tour. They will take a few months off to record a new album due out next Spring.

This has been covered to a very large extent in numerous threads here. RIAA, I believe, requires you to pay to update how many cd's/albums you have sold. The numbers cited here were quite a while ago.

That being said, I certainly think that for all involved the days where they sell multi platinum in the United States are long over. I say enjoy what they gave us, hopefully enjoy what they continue to give us.

So looking forward to my next chance to see Dennis in concert. It's been a while.

Peace

Oh...and welcome to the board.

[styxfansite]

On the Jy Interview Kick here....

Has anyone found this interview or have the transcribed version? If this interview was done in Chicago where He, Dennis, Chuck, John P., and John C. were from I would like to see what he says.

Thanks

[SuiteMadameBlue]

On the Jy Interview Kick here....

Has anyone found this interview or have the transcribed version? If this interview was done in Chicago where He, Dennis, Chuck, John P., and John C. were from I would like to see what he says.

Thanks

Sorry I haven't seen any transcribed version and I didn't hear that anyone copied this interview.

If I find it, I'll let you know